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The incel and male loneliness epidemic would be solved if ugly men lowered their standards and pursued ugly women to date. Or improve physically via fitness, do grooming, improve their social skills, get a good career and so on so they can date the women they want. Oh, and try to make friends. It really is that simple. But they refuse to do so and would rather bitch and be entitled.
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>>84251008
you're a nigger that believes in a just world
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>>84251008
>the men have to change
>the women are fine how they are
No
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>>84251014
You are probably fat and work for minimum wage while living with mommy and daddy but thinks he deserves Stacy.
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https://youtu.be/u0-r0GROFrw?si=u9QoBPq4FGcz7k2K
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>>84251008
Why would men who are content living alone and looking after their own interests bother letting ANY women disrupt his comfortable life, much less one that isn't even pleasant to look at while she make poor choices and expects you to mitigate the consequences of her actions?

Nobody is falling for the "incel" or "male loneliness epidemic" propaganda.

If you want to use women to exploit male productivity, try some propaganda focused on fixing women.
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>be in middle school
>physically weak and small
>no career
>still fuck your wife

Self improoooving is a trick to keep you running on the treadmill for no reward
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>>84251036
wtf is this niggerbabble
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>>84251018
>Men have to
Yes, I've said this before by the 30s, there's no reason to think you are getting a barely legal, inexperienced virgin who's also a slutty. It's highly unlikely you will find that. So making it your standard for a relationship is stupid.
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>>84251008
The ugly women, 300+lb 35-40+ single moms, etc., all orbit the same 20% of men regardless. They might just be a side piece, they might not even get to fuck chad at all, but they'll never fuck incels or anyone claiming to suffer from the "male loneliness epidemic"; women find low confidence men to be absolutely repulsive.

Back when men owned everything, many repulsive men still got girlfriends/wives because the women needed to manipulate these men to have any reasonable chance of getting anything in life.

Now that female orbiting/infedelity/etc. is normalized, and the internet allows them a social circle of near inifnite range, these women will never settle for weird men again.
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>>84251057
https://youtu.be/2QzQUO3j0gE?si=H14QDK5uFKMFZj-3

https://youtu.be/SKaJT8yWbGs?si=sJeBGsXVCfCRFLuf

https://youtu.be/8F8OpiCRHBA?si=U2hlpUA7RL19uw2u
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>>84251075
Say it a million times I don't care.
>inexperienced virgin who's also a slutty
Can't hang without strawmanning?
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>just improve your grooming bro
>just take a shower bro
Meanwhile a schizophrenic who likes to eat poop during sex has done that with 3 women. Remember to have fresh breath bro.
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>>84251196
If this guy can find a girl, then all of you can.
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>>84251196
people with weird extreme fetishes always end up finding each other because they never stop talking about their weird fetish, their entire life revolves around it.
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>>84251085
i go to dthang grave and take a piss on that shit
if keta was alive i'd make that bitch suck my dick
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>>84251008
women have no body attraction beyond gender detection. men evolved real body detection to find non-menopausal women and fertility cues

for women in non-sexual contexts: men are ugly, women are hot
in sexual contexts all men are equally "hot". every study rating male vs female attractiveness separately is measuring relative ranking, not absolute

not talking about the fake 80/20 meme. zero research exists showing increased masculinity raises attractiveness for women looking at men. every studies show increased femininity raises attractiveness for men looking
at women

the "attractive man" you detect as a male is your male-male competition detector. women don't see them as attractive outside of sex-proximal conditions(and few other post coupling and age based) or social conditioning. And in sex-context, they only really care that it's a male

assumed framing of "why would women choose lesser" assumes choice. women don't choose, they at most veto. in absence of female choice, decisions are made by male-male competition: status, strength signals, coalition building. men back down and form coalitions under threat rather than fight directly.

that's what you're doing in your post btw. your evolutionary brain is trying to get others to back off.

marriage has existed 50k+ years and almost every form was socially regulated exchange, deals set between men. tribes were small. far fewer eligible females than reproductively capable males. so: strength/status display > coalition > avoid bloodshed that weakens tribe.

That is your male "attractiveness" detection. its not about looks. its a "back off from the reproductive females, follow the norm, keep the tribe strong" signal.

women never chooses unless promoted to, you don't want me to promt them because you worked for it following the male norm and it's your turn, she should be rightfully yours
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>>84251085
>>84251284
Again, what is this niggerbabble
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>>84251008
>ugly men lowered their standards and pursued ugly women to date.
Ugly men dont want us
>Or improve physically via fitness, do grooming, improve their social skills, get a good career and so on so they can date the women they want.
Doesnt matter because even if you do all of that, women wont want you anyway
>Oh, and try to make friends
Only works with other guys since there arent women anywhere.
>they refuse to do so and would rather bitch and be entitled.
Projection from someone who probably thinks she deserves a 2m werewolf mafia boss
>>84251075
Litterally 99% of incels only requirement is
>be a bio woman
And thats it. Youre strawmanning here
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>>84251792
Have you ever once asked out an ugly woman?
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>>84251008
But I am not physically attracted to ugly women, I mean ugly not just plain which I would gladly settle for.
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Polyamorous men tend to ugly and they date and fuck a lot. To be fair, they women they date and fuck are often fat and gross looking as they are, but beggars cant be choosers! And they seem happy, uggos being together and fucking!
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>>84251808
Yes. I have never asked 'stacy' out.
I have been rejected by obese drug addicted, jobless single moms too.
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>>84251811
Lower your standards or improve yourself .>>84251836
Me when I lie. Those women will take anyone because no one wants them.
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>>84251842
Not true lol, i've asked ugly women out and they say no because they don't want us autists. I think we memed too hard about mommy's tendies and they think they have to baby us.
t. not even ugly
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>>84251842
>waaaah i dont agree with reality so it must be a lie
Cope. Been rejected by homeless drug addicted women too.
Now i dont approach or try anything anymore. And before your throw meme insults around I am above 6ft, not fat, not bald and have a stable job.
Every women has plenry of options
>Those women will take anyone because no one wants them.
Kek no, they had options, not dozens or hundreds of them like normal women but still. theres no such thing as an unwated woman
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>>84251008
Nailed it, 100%. These hateful porn addicts would do anything except for being reasonable and putting in the bare minimum effort.
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>>84252563
I do all of these except for 2/3 and still khhv, what do feminist bros?
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>>84252577
it's natural selection, then
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>>84251008
what do you call one black man being chased by 300 white men?
The pga tour
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>>84252587
So true "sis" all icky men should be killed (except the attractive ones).
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>>84252587
>its that spammer again
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>>84251018
This
Women need to change
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>>84252654
Do you Iike her, anon?
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We've been over this time and time again, men already have the lower standards.
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>>84252677
>this nigga spends his days spamming webm of radfems seething about men.
I hope whoever pays you gives you good money for that because thats pathetic
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>>84252749
So you don't like her? Fine.
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>>84251208
Yeah bro, just eat your own poop bro, Easy bro
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This film to me, speaks on a great deal more than what many are giving it credit for. I've seen it being misidentified and minimized as trauma porn, where the audience is being needlessly exposed to a man's suffering without point behind it. It both more effectively displays and illustrates the male loneliness epidemic, and the effects/consequences of it when combined with traditional masculine ideals pushed to extremes, than Taxi Driver does. Yes, I fully recognize the influence that taxi driver has on this movie and many others, and without it as a blueprint this film would effectively cease to be.
Despite the character of Killian Maddox suffering from an array of potentially innate mental disorders that worsen his positioning and interactions with the world around him, the ultimately exacerbating factors are ones that are all too common. The isolationism that Killian faces due to his more niche area of interest, lack of support or extended family, and limited time and resources to expand his circle outside of his workplace and gym, is incredibly damaging.Whenever he's not obsessively chasing towards his goal, he drowns himself in pornography and YouTube. Distraction methods that are easier for him to do than to connect with other people in any meaningful way. Easier to do than to be honest with his therapist, and confront the traumas, stresses, and pain that lead to his feelings of discontent and anguish. He robs himself of a proper outlet for his feelings, all to maintain the image that he is strong and unaffected, as he believes a man should be. As a result all of these bottled feelings explode into violence, poor decisions, strong impulsive feelings, even going as far as to consider murder and suicide. At times this movie felt as if it was a biopic for a future mass shooter, and more effectively breaks down the events that would lead to it better than any movie in thatt genre that I can think of.
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>>84251008
I'm ugly. I'm fine with ugly women, but not fat women because I'm not fat and in pretty decent shape.
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>>84253084
No and you spamming obnocious webm of radfem saying all ugly men should die isnt really helping either.
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>>84251633
urban lyricism from a black rap icon
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where are these low tier women you speak of

every women I see on bumble is a mid tier Becky at least that works out regularly and has a high power corporate job
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>>84254513
average looking women dont use dating apps anymore, its all either fat women or beckies and above
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>>84251036
Pcps a helluva drug
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>>84251008
according to the retarded incels on this board I'm horribly ugly and I still pull in girls that are "way above my league" just by having a personality that isn't "oh poor me! Why doesn't anyone love me boohoo! I'd make such a good bf!" and actually being nice to people.
-Cockroach guy
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>>84251008
>The incel and male loneliness epidemic would be solved if ugly men lowered their standards and pursued ugly women to date.
thread number 6464136145 blaming incels for just...not trying hard enough. also, i can only lower my standards so much before my partner is incapable of giving me erection, or stopping me from throwing up all over them in disgust. is that what you want, femcels? you got a think for floppy dicks and getting puked on?
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>>84251008
>Or improve physically via fitness, do grooming, improve their social skills, get a good career and so on so they can date the women they want
if self improoooooving worked so reliably then why do so many men say they tried it and it didnt work? do you really think every man can just hit the gym and get pussy? do you think larger muscles will make up for being short, bald, small dicked, brown skinned or autistic?
and how am I supposed to improooooove my social skills if no woman wants to talk to me in the first place? how do I get the experience needed for a job when a job is the only way to get experience?
>volunteer
you're missing the point of the metaphor. there are no women who would let me "volunteer". the practice gf's of the past (milfs) are all ran through by chad, and would rather pine for the love they lost than replace it with me, nevermind all the ones who ended up as divorced single moms
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>>84252587
>Do everything you're told
>looksmaxx so hard you destroy your body with roids and exercise
>still get "naturally selected"
>go on 4chan to seek solace from this cruel judgemental world
>see people recommend this to other people
>try to warn them
>>stop blackpilling people bro
>>the squeaky wheel gets the grease bro
>>life is unfair and it will never be fair, all you can do is give yourself the best odds at succeeding and hope for the best bro
>did not achieve the best
>decide you've had enough of playing with the bad hand you were dealt
>talks about wanting to rope
>>stop blackpilling bro
>>just try harder bro
it's all so tiresome
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>>84251633
i know you can understand what they say
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>>84251258
How many young women with poop eating fetishes have you encountered who talk about it constantly?

For me it's zero
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>>84251008
you're a fucking idiot.
there was a study about this but basically, men find 80% of all women attractive, but women find 10-20% of all men attractive.
men's standrads ARE low, they're desperate. women dont even think most men are human,
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>>84254521
They dont use anything and dont attend anything and talking to women in the street is creep behavior.
So yeah its pretty much impossible.
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>>84252563
That's comedian manlet who in his 30s doesn't have wife and kids.
Walking redpill
>short?
>it's over
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>>84254608
>self improoooooving worked so reliably then why do so many men say they tried it and it didnt work?
They don't have base looks and/or recources to cross into top 20% men's category. They rise bur bar is still too high for them.
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>>84254676
All decent women are defacto concubines for coastal elites (mostly jews)
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>>84254709
blackpillers proven right, as usual. there's no point in self improving if you dont already have the potential. there's a difference between a lazy chad, and a dysgenic freak who should have never been born, or at least, shoul'dve been born with a vagina. at least then he'd be useful for something
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>>84254676
i think a lot of average women checked out of the whole dating thing because they got played by a guy out of their league and it disillusioned them. the whole femcel thing is becoming more and more popular too
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>>84251008
Listen to me you fucking useless faggot. The reason ugly subhuman men don't approach ugly foids is not because their standards are too high, it's because the foids themselves reject them despite also being ugly

ALL OF YOU REMEMBER, AWALT. NO WHORE ON THIS PLANET IS GOOD. ALL FOIDS NEED TO BE ENSLAVED FOR THE GOOD OF HUMANITY
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>>84254731
FEMCELS DO NOT FUCKING EXIST, IT'S JUST AN AESTHETIC. EVERYTHING YOU CAN THINK OF IS JUST AN AESTHETIC TO WOMEN. WOMEN HAVE NO ORIGINAL THOUGHTS AND THEIR ONLY PURPOSE IS ENFORCING EUGENICS ON SUBHUMAN MEN.
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>>84252563
Woke dudes are now acknowledging the heightpill over literally anything.

Manletbros, is it really truly over?
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>>84254663
Stop coping faggot, most women are into some form of rape fetish or some weird bondage tentacle mosnter shit
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>>84252563
fuck you feminist nigger retarded redpill alpha coper go fuck a single mom and get cucked like the beta male you are
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>>84254731
Femcels arent a thing. Its just girls with thousands of simps larping as losers for further internet attention points
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>>84254820
>>84254883
femcels definitely are a thing, theyre alpha widowed and wont lower their standards. it would be the same thing for some ugly guy if he magically had sex with a stacy, he wouldnt really care about fucking mid girls anymore
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>>84254842
>most women want to be raped by monsters
>to attract these women you need to uhhhh... have good grooming and a good job.

Makes sense to me.
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>>84254945
>wont lower their standards
That's a volcel, and maybe you are clever enough to notice, but 'volcel" and "incel" are different words.
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>>84254955
thats why theyre callled femcels not incels...
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>>84254970
Well if "femcel" is defined as "larping cunt who has sex" then yeah they do exist.
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>>84254970
They're not even celibate though. So many of them would have decent success if they actually tried. I really wish they had their own culture instead of trying to appropriate incel shit.
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>>84254945
>if he magically had sex with a stacy
because the only way that could happen is with magic, whereas the vast majority of ugly fat chicks have been CHADDED, if just when they were teenagers, and it jades them for life

"debates" with you people never progress beyond your refusal to accept even the basic facts of the situation
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>>84254997
How are incels different?
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>>84255023
Men dont have any options. "Femcels" have dozens if not hundreds of men vying for them
>inb4 proof?
This very board with every fembot having hundreds of orbiters and dating apps
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>>84254997
understanding it from their perspective is actually kind of easy. Imagine a girl you really like and you want her to be your gf but all she wants from you is sex. do you really want that? if non gooners were being honest i dont think any of you want that. im not talking about some random hot girl, im talking about someone you view almost like wife material
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>>84255016
i dont sympathize with them at all anon, theyre retards with idiotic standards
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>>84255031
Men have plenty of options, including other men.
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>>84255062
>she will only have sex with you. do you really want that?
The lie here is that you equate not having the ideal scenario (marrying the wife material) as equal to not having anything at all (being an incel/TFL, no sex, no friendship, no friendly smiles)

Kill yourself immediately
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>>84255089
>just change your sexuality bro
>but don't ask a gay man to change his sexuality, that's not cool bro
The normalfags aren't even trying today
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>>84255089
What are these options then?
>inb4 bro just pay hundreds of women and travel thousands of kilometers for whores and just change your basic biological sexual orientation
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>>84255095
im calling them retards anon, theyre just a different type of retard. incels dont get anything, femcels get played by guys out of their league and they fall for it because they think their pussy is magical
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>>84255135
Okay.

Men humiliate themselves and work their whole lives to be in the position of the average "retard" femcel.
I don't care if they are unhappy with their steak and lobster dinner because I get nothing.
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whatever, i want stacy only. the average femcel is not just ugly but very evil too
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>>84255126
Lower and change your standard to a realistic expectation. I know many of you probably have a co-worker you could date, but you don't because she's not a 10/10 barely legal virgin model.
Also, go gay. I honestly believe a lot of you are gay, but had bad dads.
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>>84255112
It's what you are saying to femcels. You can have sex right now. I can get on fetlife right now and probably get your dick sucked. You don't want to do it because you actually want to have sex with a specific person. Yet femcal don't exist because of the same reason.
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>>84255205
Please exmlain to me how
>being a biological female
And
>want something long term
Are unreal expectations. Ill wait
>you probably have a co-worker you could date, but you don't because she's not a 10/10 barely legal virgin model.
I dont have female coworkers. You think people live in romcoms or something
>become gay
Its like becoming a zoophile. Its not possible.
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>>84252563
im far below 5'8 so im the only truecel according to this video
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>>84255222
No. Incels are okay with any woman.
Femcels just want a top 1% man. Not the same thing.
Its like saying incels cant exist because they can fuck trees
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>>84255222
>It's what you are saying to femcels
And it's also what you normalfags say to me. I'll fuck a guy after you talk a woman into fucking me. How does that deal sound?
>Chad is it's own gender
I agree desu
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>>84255089
Just be gay bro!! Shut the fuck up, most men are actual subhumans who only exist due to modern medicine, most of us would have been wiped out by nature ages ago. This is why men don't actually have any options at all, only if you're talking about the genetically superior ones which are a minority. Stop being a retard. Men don't have options and nobody cares about us.
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>>84255243
Femcels are just foids who couldn't get chad and are mad about i
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>>84255460
True

And another thing is that these normies assume it's easy to get with a feminine tranny, as if the cock alone makes their SMV zero.
It's not easy.
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>>84255062
Yes i just want to pass on my genes at this point, it's the only thing that truly matters, if you can't impregnate a woman then there is no point in being alive
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>>84254838
Its so fucking brutal. I saw a video of a 6ft guy who got leg lengthening surgery to be even taller and the comments had other tallfags talking about wearing height frauding soles.
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>>84251196
GOOD PERSONALITY DETECTOR MALFUNCTIONED AGAIN. FUCK I CAN'T STAND WOMEN
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>>84255499
It's not enough for tallfags to already mog most of us, they just HAVE TO BE THE BEST OF THE BEST. LIFE IS ALL ABOUT MOGGING EVERYONE IN AN ENDLESS CYCLE AND THIS IS WHY I HATE NATURE AND HUMANITY
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>>84252587
suck my balls you filthy third world nigger, you think simping for foids is going to get you pussy and it won't get you shit you scum roach dirty chink jeet fag spic nigger
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>>84255530
Its either or troll or just some mentally ill simp spamming the same webms over and over again
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>>84255499
>>84255518
Worst part is that tallfags can get away with using platform shoes. Life is literally easy mode for them.
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>>84252563
So struggling men have to date someone they have no attraction towards but some fat whale can want a jacked Chad and no would have an issue



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