What will be the societal consequences of the majority of young men becoming incel chuds?
It's too much of an effort I guess
>>84257196>Jul. 15, 2025Holy outdated! I wonder how bad it is now. Guys like Clavicular are hitting the mainstream normiesphere so it's gotta be bad out there. Looksmaxxing and incel/blackpill lingo in normie vocabulary is also another sign.
>>84257221>*July 15, 2023Typo.
>>84257229Actually no wait, I can't read today. Published Feb. 23, 2023 and updated Jul. 15, 2025.
>>84257221>Holy outdated!It's really not that outdated.
the female loneliness epidemic will follow, despite what the internet wants to make you believe most women dont like being used for sex. all they will have is internet validation
>>84257248A few years is a lot for a phenomenon like inceldom. I have heard some argue that 80/20 rule is now 90/10 or even 95/5
>>84257285>A few yearsYou mislead me by saying July 2025. Either way, these numbers are only rising like 1-2% a year, even 3 years isn't going to cause that much of a chance. It'll still take a decade or two to reach an 80/20 ratio.
>>84257313>You mislead me by saying July 2025Yeah, my bad, I confused the published and updated dates which is why I corrected myself twice below that post.>It'll still take a decade or two to reach an 80/20 ratio.Maybe for virginity but we are already there as far as I can tell for sexlessness and getting put in that "beta" category. If you aren't top 20%, you are a beta provider wifeguy to women that's gonna get starfish maintenance sex. The modern young men are not Boomers so we ain't trying to put up with that, especially when how women treat men they actually like is thrown constantly in our faces at venues like night clubs or on social media.
>>84257196society becomes niggerlicious
>>84257486It already is niggerlicious, tho
>>84257196Hopefully it means the genetic trash will increasingly stay inside and not even bother, and thus women won't need to have our everyday lives shitted up by low value moids. Life would indeed be better if only the top 20% of men existed, and if that won't happen, at least the rest of men can fuck off and become invisible outside of their disgusting toxic online shit holes
>>84257196nigga actually thinks something might happen lol
>>84257570yeah, right. 6 out of 10 young men are just not going to reproduce. Fine by me.
>>84257553Does it ever occur to the people posting these, facetious or otherwise, that an equal number of women are also genetic trash? And arguably more dangerously so considering a woman doesn't have to prove herself due to our biological instincts favoring childbirthing as an inherently good trait ( it's not when the woman is total genetic waste as 40% of them will naturally be ).
>>84257711Equality doesn't exist. Biologically, women are just more important and valuable than men are. This is why far more women have reproduced historically than men. As the person who has to spend 9 months pregnant, and then raising the child, the woman has more value to reproduction than the man who just sprays seed. So even women who are very much below average compared to other women will be of high value to humanity as a whole, and will have the motivation to be selective with breeding to make sure they only get genes from genetically better men. As human reproduction is not equal, the women's role is to be selective and filter out poor male genetics. This helps balance out the fact that women of poorer genetics will still have immense reproductive value, and helps keep evolution going.
>>84257711reproduction is the main good trait, everything else is downstream of that.
>>84257729>and helps keep evolution going.And where exactly do you believe human evolution is supposed to go? Do you want humans to become smarter? Healthier? To become an immortal space0-conquering species?Because if women keep getting their way, humanity will "evolve" back to pre-history within a couple hundred years. Men will become 9 foot tall gorillas with 4 foot long dicks who spend literally all their time from birth to death engaging in violet battles to the death with every other male they see in order to maintain exclusive mating access to their harem of hundreds of thousands of females, all of whom live in caves and eat bugs and cave fungus because men long since became too unintelligent to build so much as a stick shelter (and wouldn't have the time or energy to build anything anyways, since their lives are literally nothing but fighting and fucking).
i expect crime to increase if economic conditions do not improve. idk invest in palantir if you don't give a shit about supporting them
>>84257553When only 20% of men are left then the 80% of them will become the new incels because they're now the new normal. and on and on it goes until there's literally 1 guy left to repopulate the whole world, and he will kill himself after seeing female nature kill his entire gender. Even Clavicular is getting blackpilled how women really are, and he hates it>>84257729>As the person who has to spend 9 months pregnant, and then raising the child, the woman has more value to reproduction than the man who just sprays seedThis is not why. Men just like women way more. We're driven to fuck as many women as we can. We don't feel bad lowering our standards if it means sex. Men really will give women pity sex. Like imagine some chick tells you she's ugly and lonely (like femcels tend to). Men won't feel disgust. A lot will be like>>Aww you poor thing. You're not so hideously ugly that you can't give me an erection. Here you go, have a couple of my kids. I could not care less if your genes are shit. The only thing I care about is making as many as I can, they'll have to find their own way in the world, withever genes you give them
>>84257729>This is why far more women have reproduced historically than men.*Citation needed*
>>84257196Society is raising a generation of Schoppenhauers basically Gen Z men all hate everything the old world order stood for. Neoliberalism is undoubtedly dead once power shifts towards gen Z. Western liberalism is utterly retarded for thinking it's a good idea to raise a generation of emotionally neglected socially isolated ultracompetitive men. It's really hard to say what will end up of society eventually but it will a reflex of what it's like growing up as a boy currently
>>84257729>As the person who has to spend 9 months pregnant, and then raising the child, the woman has more value to reproduction than the man who just sprays seed.>the women's role is to be selective and filter out poor male genetics. This helps balance out the fact that women of poorer genetics will still have immense reproductive value, and helps keep evolution going.This is a complete non sequitur. How the fuck does the amount of time a woman needs to spend being pregnant and raising a child mean she's automatically contributing to evolution? A 40 IQ retarded woman with some genetic defect that also causes her and all of her descendants to develop cancer by the age of 15 isn't "evolving" crap just because pregnancy takes a long time. The continued existence of her and her genetic line contributes literally nothing to evolutionary progress of humanity as a whole. In fact, it's actively reversing it. Same for every woman with bad genetics. As long as they're allowed to reproduce their shit genes will do nothing but muddy the genepool and drag everyone else down.
>>84257553Kek, foids realize the "top 20%" are only there because they chose them, based purely on arbitrary traits, and would be in the same hole that we are otherwise. Also, they're not in any way stronger than us, we're more resilient the longer we stay alone and single.
>>84257196the chud reich
>>84257196>thank pornporn has nothing to do with itdo they really think people don't want sex?i hate boomers so much
>>84258423If it was "arbitrary" then you wouldn't have a consistent pattern of incels being ugly, stupid and violent.
>>84258472porn is one of the main reasons why young guys don't go out to social events or at least dancing with girls. once you watch porn there's not much driving you to hang out with a bunch of mid girls, let alone be patient for someone who is attractive.
>>84258423Foid driven "evolution" be like>I hate short men! Us women need to only breed with tall men until 6 feet becomes the minimum male height everywhere!>(a few generations pass)>We did it! We bred short men out of existence and now even the shortest man on the planet is at least 6 feet tall!>...>Ew, I don't want to have sex with the shortest guy on the planet! I only want a tall one!>I hate short men! Us women need to only breed with tall men until 7 feet becomes the minimum male height everywhere!>(repeat until men become 12 foot tall abominations unable to lift the weight of their own limbs or pump blood to their own brains)
>>84258423>Also, they're not in any way stronger than us, we're more resilient the longer we stay alone and single.This is understated. I'm in my late 20s. I had to get fit, learn to dress well, etc.... I have completed my degree as well, and I'm starting my own business among other things. Whereas every woman I know my age who is not single is starting to get very chubby, has a fat boyfriend/husband (noticeably a lot worse than what he used to look when he was younger), and they are getting married and having kids on top of that. The former "Chad" is now tied down to his wife, who is likely tired of him, doesn't know any better so he doesn't even try to look better and work out. Meanwhile, I'm only increasing my power level as I go, and I know that I as a single man with lots of money, no kids to take care of or wife to spend it on, looking fit and taking care of myself will be much more valuable than the non-single, or possibly soon to be divorced men my age. And I will not settle for the divorced or single mom Stacy, I know where to look for good women in their early 20s (Philippines etc..).
>>84258508I didn't go out even before I discovered pornit's probably the case for some guys, but definitely not the reason for most men
>>84258508says more about women than porn that men would rather jerk off alone than even bother speaking to you
>>84258508I have never watched porn in my life I am just never around women or around the ones that I am attracted to. I just want to finish my degree and go to SEA or East Asia for a while until I die.
>>84258514most animals are all the same size within a species. evolution doesn't mean you grow infinitely. human height diversity is a huge defect, especially the short ones.
>>84258483All incels being short or unattractive is just a stereotype. I've been attractive my whole life and still single. Like I said, women choose other men arbitrarily (in my case personality wise). I've had plenty of foids attracted to me, they quickly lose it some time shortly after getting to know me (surface level, not even deeply). Some of the most retarded foids I remember ever talking to brought up this nonsense of things having to "click" between us. They had no intention of getting to know me any other way, as in talking and getting to know each other wasn't enough. That's not how attraction works, it builds up over time as you get to know someone better, but the vast majority of foids don't understand this.
>>84258508i have literally no money
>>84258557nice. when i watched porn i barely went out to any parties or events, it would just make me feel anxious or pointless. when i stopped watching porn i was horny enough to do pretty much anything and eventually learned to temper how i acted around girls. that's just me ig but porn and drugs and gambling didn't become huge problems for nothing, they replaced other things. >>84258542yeah that's the point. it's easy to convince someone not to live a healthy normal life. fat people would rather eat a lot of food. it's not rocket science.
>>84257553Okay, let's say 80% of men stop existing and only the top 20% remains. That's 800 million men for 4 billion women. There wouldn't be enough chads for all the women in the world. Women would either need to compete for a man or resort to being part of a harem where they share a man with multiple women. Is this really the femminist future you fantazise about?
>>84258625the average man literally even has internet and other luxury consumer goods.
>>84258483>stupid and violent.Women select for both these traits when given freedom.
>>84258645>the top 20% of men in society are actually Syrian migrantsoh. leftist propaganda is peak. tell me how i know you have never been to a high net worth event.
>>84258644omg internet what a luxury good it costs almost as much as a meal for one person in a restaurant per monthyes of if cut that then i could totally afford fancy clothes, gifts, meals, tickets, and alcohol so true!
>>84258662>bro i don't have any clothes or meals! but i prioritize my internet :^)Bet.Did your dad ever have sex?
>>84258628>yeah that's the point. it's easy to convince someone not to live a healthy normal life. fat people would rather eat a lot of food. it's not rocket science.literally every guy including guys who have gfs and wives jerk off to porn. porn can become a problem if youre some gooner but thats about it. i havent jerked off to porn in a month and it has done basically nothing for me other than make me use my imagination to jerk off. Im mostly doing it as an experiment to see what happens and i really doubt it will do anything
>>84258682i wear old jeans and tshirts with holes in most of the time and i cook 100% of the hot meals i eatkeep up your ridiculous strawman thoughif i went on dates once a week then that's like $100 i would have to find which i simply do not have
>>84258694You just told me you can't afford clothes or meals. So now all of a sudden you have things that money buys? Amazing.
>>84258690>literally every guy including guys who are sober drink alcohol and this is why alcoholism isn't a problem!Cool anyway porn is still an obvious problem for young boys/men.
>>84258630Funny how misandrists who talk about how most men shouldn't reproduce never answer this question, I've probably asked this 5 times now and they always refuse to respond.
>>84258661Apple church original
>>84258714>actually, the incels are the ones who have the most sexinteresting theory. leftists also like to pretend that autists have the most normal social behavior lol.
>>84258708social media is a larger problem than porn. i think the whole world should get rid if both and lets see who goes crazy first, the women addicted to social media, or the porn addicts who will have to jerk off to their imagination which isnt even difficult or special
>>84258699>meals only come from restaurantssRetarded or bait?
>>84258731>social media is a larger problem than pornprobably yeah. >who goes crazy firstwe were talking about men being losers. are you claiming that women on social media have a hard time getting a boyfriend or sex?>bro all those men used to jerk off to le muh imagination XDeven if you are this retarded, the problem is not going to be solved for men who were already raised to be porn addicts, it would be solved for younger generations of guys who haven't been ruined yet.
>>84258508>porn is one of the main reasons why young guys don't go out to social events or at least dancing with girls.I don't do this because it sounds extremely fucking gay. If you want to blame anything blame video games because they're way more entertaining than that.
>>84258630when Russia went through a shortage of men after WWII women were the ones competing for male attention, domestic violence and cheating became a rampant problem throughout the 20th century because women had no other choice but to put up with it, they had to bag a man and hold onto him for dear life cause there's no chance in hell that they could find another man who'd take them inand no one can come up with MUH PATRIARCHY bullshit, communist Russia was very progressive in terms of gender equality in the workplace and legal equalityand Russian women came up with hilarious copes like "he beats me because he loves me" like fucking kek just imagine the feminist utopia
>>84258566>most animals are all the same size within a species. evolution doesn't mean you grow infinitelyWeirdly enough, I've seen plenty of taller women select shorter men. Women do not select for men who are taller, they select for men who are different than them (but still have a very similar personality).
>>84258737who is she quoting? there was some anon earlier pretending to not have enough money while posting here lol.
>>84258783video games are genuinely gay though. most people aren't retarded enough to be entertained by some balls on a screen.
>>84257196Rome is falling. You better all hope AI isn't all hype and is half as productive as they say. Otherwise the empire will crumble in your lifetime.
>>84258566>human height diversity is a huge defect, especially the short ones.We better start sterilizing short women then since they're the main contribute of short genes to the human gene pool.
>>84258773social media is porn for women, they use it for attention and validation. real life doesnt compare to how much they can get online. it has absolute rotted their brain even more than porn addicted gooners. men used to jerk off to fucking lingerie ads, if porn goes away we can just do that again
>>84258824Bill Gates and other billionaires are already doing that. I've never even had sex with a girl with manlet genes, my past relationships have all been with girls just a few inches shorter than me.
>>84258824Pic rel exists, so there are women out there who select for shorter men (and it may be entirely fetish based, sure, but it exists). It's also very common in women who are noticeably taller than their partner (6'+ women mostly select for shorter men, especially including stereotyped incel heights because if you are closer to them in height, they are less attracted to you).Women are utterly retarded, and even a mutant like that has a better chance at getting with them than a normal man simply because he is different.
Some men are choosing to focus on themselves and their studies and careers before they hit their 30's to settle down.That's it.The whole "You HAVE to be in a relationship, even if you aren't ready" mindset is dying. It's outdated.There's no big "societal collapse coming in just two more weeks trvst the plan" or whatever.Keep wanking over imaginary numbers and statistics. When the big societal collapse comes, you can all have a good laugh and say "I told you so", but until then, the rest of the population is going to keep living their lives.
>>84258839you can get a trillion lifetimes of "attention" from Pranjeet phone scam callers tomorrow. the question was whether you believe women on social media are single and sexless? if that's true, then yeah social media is like porn for them. i've never been a woman so i don't know what it's like for you.
>>84257553>All the scholars who built the world are not worthy of reproductionThis is why society never left reproduction up to the foid
>>84258864women dont need social media to have sex or get a bf i dont even know what youre trying to argue
>>84258856When I focused on myself that meant having a girlfriend first lol. It might be true that many men don't have any testosterone though.
>>84258839Believe it or not, porn for women does exist. They like to read it instead of watching it.
>>84258879Some anon earlier claimed that social media is the reason why women are unable to find a boyfriend, and that banning social media will force many of these women to go out and start dating again.
>>84258885social media ruined their standards so thats partially true >>84258883women masturbate like 3 times a month because there basically asexual
>>84258901>women masturbate like 3 times a month because there basically asexualWomen lie all the time, especially on such statistics. Women typically masturbate several times a day or week if they don't have a boyfriend, just like men. You don't hear much about their masturbation habits because what they lust for is not natural, it's usually an extremely unrealistic dark triad, muscly Chad rapist/criminal type, also typicially with traits that are animalistic such as werewolves/etc... You need to have a bit of autism to recognize how horny they truly are when you browse certain sites, and how much porn they consume.
>>84258938dark triad just means incel these days
>>84258533This is an interesting takeThe current rat race is brutal. Building yourself up takes an absurd amount of effort now if you're young.On the other hand women especially young women have never been so coddled. They aren't imbeciles but they don't have the same 'do or die' drive gen Z men or millenial women have. They get to enjoy their best lives at college receiving infinite attention and affection online from men but if they don't settle by the time they're in their 30s they're genuinely fucked not only from a romance perspective but from a financial one too While current late zoomers and early gen alpha dudes are extremely misogynistic and addicted to self improvement.
>>84258731>>84258708Women should see the other side, it's not hard. Make a fake account and have male pic or avatar, and add a woman. Women are flooded with adds, messages etc... There isn't a single quality woman who uses social media, because they're all looking to get the next attention hit, and yet we're forced to use it for dating if we don't find anything IRL. Men can be porn addicted coomers, and still make a good effort to get into relationships with women, yet still not succeed. Whereas women are not really trying on social media. They all have the same endgame, and they could also have boyfriends and still not care, they are always looking for attention and validation. The problem has gotten so bad that now, it's not just on social media. Good luck finding a woman not thirsty of attention IRL, even if she's got a boyfriend on top of that. It never ends for women, they simply want more and more, all they could get.
>>84259005my email gets spammed all the time because i think my data got sold somewhere.
>>84258977In a way the feminist rhetoric of women being better off building their own careers is right for gen Z. The average man when they're pushing 30 will genuinely despise women after growing up emotionally neglected and life is not getting any cheaper. Do you truly want to rely on someone who despises you?
>>84258784Well, really, women are just putting themselves into that situation now by disqualifying most men. It's why you see them hate on men so much, it's because the men they do sleep with are free to mistreat them, and do so.
>>84259005young women really don't give a shit and the older women with power genuinely hate all men. Men and women can't really understand each other because we're simply biologically differentMen crave sex and affection way more often and stronger than women do, yet they have these needs neglected the most. Men's bodies constantly punish them for not accomplishing these goals The experience of being single and sexless is much worse to men compared than women. So how could they understand our perspective?
>>84259176it seems to be much harder for women. men actually prefer to be alone most of the time.
>>84257553No you should burn the world down out of spite. Everyone deserves to suffer
>>84257196Im sure constantly poking them with a stick and saying>come on be better make me money and accept dynamics i would never ever accept everWill work
>>84257196A bit late to comment, but generally, the answer with these cases of worsening social trends is that society just becomes gradually worse with no tipping point. In this particular case, there will be more social anomie, more polarization, more social isolation, more resentment, and so on, but there never comes a tipping point where the people take up arms and do an incel revolution as some like to fantasize about. People's lives just become gradually worse over time.
>>84259183That doesn't really make much senseMen on nature are self-sufficient while women are the ones that have to rely on men to survive. Women don't need to be emotionally attached to men to have to stick aroundMen have no reason to be around women other than for satisfying his own sexual and emotional needsThe moment women become self-sufficient most of them end up quitting the dating marketMen feel love on a much stronger way than women do
>>84257196Women are so retarded they really think a majority of young men forsaking them is somehow a good thing for them.Men are a finite resource. It's a simple numbers game.Only a small number of women are happy to share "Chad". The vast majority of women are suffering because men are opting out. I'll play it out mathematically for the intellectually challenged:>100 men exist>100 women exist>40 men are actively dating>40 women are actively dating these men>5 other men are being fuckboys and sleeping around>20 other women are content being fucktoys for them and being passed around (in addition to some of the women in the original pool of 40 also partaking in cheating)>55 men opt out of dating>all 55 of these men suffer>40 remaining women have no on else to date, either unwilling to be fucktoys to chad or not attractive enough, also suffer the more that last number of men increases the higher the amount of women also suffer
>>84259274men don't really feel love it's mostly just about sexual attraction, i was talking about how it's just harder for women when they are alone while men prefer it.
>>84259276You're just saying that 55 men choose to suffer for no reason and 40 women choose to suffer for no reason. That's actually a low estimate imo, something like 80% of modern people just make stupid lifestyle choices because they were raised on narcissistic, secular values.
>>84257553Yeah more welfare dependents who dont have jobs will improve society. Women and trannies such as yourself are so smart they should run society
>>84259307it's just a random number pulled out of my head to prove my overarching point:men are a resource as well because, guess what, no matter how "low value" men become in our society, heterosexual women are still attracted to men at the end of the daythe lower the pool of eligible bachelors is, the more women there are who remain single and alone as well
>>84259321no that's the point. autists (the trans community) don't pass on their genes.
>>84258855That guy is rich tho
>>84259274i have a theory women are only capable of loving maternally sure they feel lust towards Chad but that doesn't mean they love Chadit's why women start being into pretty boys the less resource driven they are. Love gets favored over traditional masculine roles.The ideal husband is a sexy guy she feels protective and motherly over. It's why girls in love get so cute they treat their boyfriends like their own children
>>84259287>men don't really feel love it's mostly just about sexual attractionthis is giga feminist cope. if you ever pay attention to little boys around their moms you'll notice boys are extremely affectionate
>>84259327yeah it's not good to be low value. it seems to be better to be high value.
>>84257545It'll get even niggerliciousier.God I love how variable the word nigger is, slap it onto anything and it sounds comical. Never been a more perfect word.
>>84259372>6 7! hahaha >6 7!extreme cope.
>>84258788>Women do not select for men who are tallerBullshit. Short women want tall men. Tall women want even taller men. Their fragile femininity can't handle being the taller person in a relationship because that's masculine in their minds.
>>84259411It is masculine. You'll never see a guy above 5'10 who is single.
>>84258508How do you never seem to understand that if wanking it to a screen is better, there's a serious problem with dating?Guys are literally choosing 5 minutes of pixels on a screen because the alternative is talking to women. That is not an issue with the males, who are the builders of society. Fucking christ.
>>84259387we men just want to love god damn it. pretty much our entire societal concept of romanticism is just men projecting how they feel
>>84259421I am a guy above 5'10 and am single.
>>84257196"Disturbing reason."Anyone else here notice how women, the church and management all behave the same way? "You're a lazy dumb pervert but if you do as I say you'll be redeemed."
>>84257196We get invaded by muslims and the single ladies finally get the commitment they deserve.
the idea that just because a guy has the opportunity to get some slut pregnant means hes somehow genetically superior to other men is so retarded. i could have got many women pregnant doesnt mean im better than some other guy just because he didnt have as much sex as me. women are fkn dumb as shit.
>>84257196every western country will look like Brazil. Not just ethnically, but functionally.
>>84258508>>84258508Women dont go to muh social events and ESPECIALLY would never dance with your average guy
>>84258628Nta but never watched porn either. Theres just nothing going on where and live and the gender in my age range is fucked
>>84258508Female fingers typed this post.
>>84258791Buying groceries is like 200 bucks per month. A sibgle date can be that much.
>>84258508>muh dancing>muh experiencesMaybe learn how to hold a compelling conversarion
fyi, I don't spend my free time watching porn. I spend it talking to strange autistic trannies on Twitch, because they know how to engage.
>>84258856>The whole "You HAVE to be in a relationship, even if you aren't ready" mindset is dying. It's outdated.For men there is no come back into romantic life after decade of abstense.
tick-tock foids, the beta uprising is coming very soon
>>84259327No they will just with the high value ones? Why would anyone want a subpar male. Excess moids are basically just wasted biomass.
>>84258881Yeah, I read somewhere that the testosterone levels for the average young man nowadays is equivalent to an 80 year old from the 1920s. So lack of testosterone plus unlimited porn equals not many people bothering with dating.
>>84258881This. If you dont date, youre basically gay.
>>84259995men aren't born high value they have to work hard to become thatwhat women are doing is making men as neurotic as possible along the waythis won't work in your favor because the high value men of the future fucking despise you specifically
>>84260011thats mostly due to everyone being a fat ass now
>>84260024An ugly man will always be ugly and of low genetic character
>>84259470>we men just want to lovewomen feel about men's love the same way you'd feel about an indian man's love
>>84257285how is this possible?just chads with two girlfriends?
>>84257553Troon hands wrote thisWomen do think this way but they are too much of pro-social NPCs to articulate it
>>84260037That too. Everyone is fat and having their hormones wrecked by microplastics, and has access to unlimited entertainment and porn. Incels/femcels try to make this a culture war issue but this effects everyone
>>84260065Chads having a rotation of dozens of women, oftentimes the women will just go through their dating apps and fuck as many handsome guys as they can, women sharing a Chad knowingly. Take your pick, women are fucking a certain percentage of men that are the most attractive. I wouldn't be surprised if it's 99/1 in a decade or two
>>84260038>An ugly man will always be ugly and of low genetic charactera lean fit well groomed well dressed man has more smv than any 30+ woman>>84260055you better find the love of your life in your 20s if you keep treating men like this else it will never happen lol
>majorityLul. Incels will never be anything but a tiny minority.
>>84260101This, only Russian bots try to boost incels. There's a couple of hundred of them across the states and they can't do shit.
>>84260081it's not chad it's just women dating 30+ menlike once you notice how common it is for 30+ me nto talk about how they're hooking up with 18-20 year olds you'll notice it is literally impossible for there to not be a significant amount of incels in their 20s
>>84260108Nah if you look on the data the dip in 30+ men doesn't explain this differenceHow can you deny truth right in front of you? You're not human.
>>84260079Women in particular are having their hormones fucked with badly. Most of them take multiple SSRIs. Birth control also lowers their sex drive and changes the kind of men they find attractive. They're attracted to more masculine men when not on birth control, they gravitate towards less masculine/more feminine men when on birth control. A common cause of breakups is the woman either starts or stops taking birth control and is immediately icked by her bf.
>>84257196Immigrants taking their spot
>>84260096Any woman has more value than men. Women have inherent value. Moids are just useless.
>>84257196If I had to guess not much will actually change. Probably men will drop out of the workforce and ai will be accelerated to match
>>84260383all the jobs that matter are done exclusively by men. the only exception to this rule is medicine which has a 50% split between men and women.
>>84260383Most females in the world are over 30 and have next to no value
>>84257196>>84257285Single doesn't mean never were in a relationship though. So I doubt they'll even turn into incels.
They are blaming porn, lol.
>>84257196Honestly from the guys I know, they are just chilling. I will say that women are "happy" because they can ride the cock carousel without consequences right now but when they hit the wall it will make the "male loneliness epidemic" look tame kek
>>84258386>>84257729The guy is talking shit. Women were a massive burden and unhealthy/ugly women were leftover and unwanted to the point where the government used to hound men to take them. No shit, in Ancient Greece and other similar societies you had leftover women petitioning the local governments to force men to marry them.Ugly and unhealthy women historically had it pretty damn hard. Ugly and unhealthy men could still support themselves, survive on their own, get by relatively okay. Because of the nature of menstruation and physical weakness, women didn't last long by themselves.
>>84260607having sex once or twice and never having sex is not that big of a difference accomplishment wise
>>84257196Man are less likely to be productive members of society, so the economy will suffer, the infrastructure will be less mainted. So it will get way more shitter, until the harpies die out and newer generation of man and woman pair up again.
>societal consequencesHopefully a mass-drop out from this pozzed society, and undermining the globalist plan to turn us all into serfs anyway.If not a violent revolution, then certainly a silent one. The birth rate will plummet. Foids will be like the top 1%; giving no fucks about the rest. Non-Chad men with zero chance of sex won't want to prop this shit up anymore. Collapsing society and civilisation sure was worth your turning Chad-only, huh foids? Worst thing is that they really don't care if society collapses, until it affects them violently. Chad is everything. Frankly, between the globalists and foids ruining everything, we need a nuclear WW3 and a hard reset.
>>84260640Is literally the difference between continuing your bloodline and ending a legacy of millions of years
>Lul. Incels will never be anything but a tiny minority.Wrong, our numbers are getting bigger all the time.It's now a generational thing too. Many Zoomer males are incel, but we mid-era Millennials got shafted too.Many of us are indeed those normies who have recently been left behind, as the tide of foid standards rises over their head. Then they are in denial about their dry-streak going into months and then years. Given our constant bad press (victim blaming), normiecels don't exactly embrace the incel tag, though they will invariably get Red Pilled or Black Pilled. Male inceldom will only get worse until foids are cut off from their online and infinite access to Chad, and are obliged to fuck their looks-matches again.
>>84260598I, for one, look forward to the mass roastie wine aunt sui's. Even the attempted/failed ones.They could have had a looks-matched guy who cared about them and wanted to fuck them a lot, but no.
>>84260079>and having their hormones wrecked by microplastics,By birth control pill estrogen water contamination. Just reminder that water treatment plants can't filter estrogen from water supply.
>>84257572Neither will they support the coubtry, protect their fellow countrymen, stand up when some foid gets dragged into an ally,...If they are smart they life frugal, save money,dont spend a dime and then escape with the savongs to some third or second world place were they can live unb8thered, were living like that is seen as strong and get you women.
>>84257196ive been trying to get a date on dating apps and it's fucking impossible
>>84257196more immigration lmao
>>84259832i'm ugly and they dance with me. men and women go to social events, that's why they are called social. the question about porn gooners being incels has mostly to do with those guys who don't go out.
>>84259470Is that even true? How much time in this past week have you spent on romantic dates?>bro show your pussy you slut bro i hate women XD
>>84261671I'm ugly and i go to social events and women below 50 dont attend any of those. Same with cooking classes, dance classes, hobby groups etc.
>>84261683How can you spend time on dates if women dont want to date you?
>>84259276>the more that last number of men increases the higher the amount of women also suffer>women most affectedas a straight male: don't give a shit.>>84257553still not fucking you.
>>84257196>They have no reason to work hard>Young men are the only demographic that pay more taxes than they receive welfare>Production collapse, tax revenue collapse>Credit downgrade for the state>The state collapse
>>84261941By wanting to go on dates. You're not that special. Women have been breeding with men since we evolved from viruses.
>>84261560Literally the entire purpose of a dating app is that you never get a date on there.
>>84262124What if they all want the top 10% of men and never even look at the bottom 60%?>Hurr every men should be a bilionaire model
>>84262124I want to go on dates but wopen dont want to go on dates with me. What do?
>>84262146Theres nowhere else where its okay to talk to women.>inb4 muh hobby groups memeThose are almist exclusively male/boomers
>>84262158>what if every man wants to be a billionaire!doesn't matter. if you care about love and romance, your actions would reflect that. you can be insecure about your finances and still date.>>84262195there's nowhere where its okay to be a female, but women still do it anyway.
>>84262190Go on more dates. Women will date a guy who just has a little bit of heroin, or has just told a joke one time in 1998. You're not special. And if you are THAT special, donate your body to science so that researchers can study your deformities and you can become rich and then just buy some prosty slizz.
>>84262230If you care about romance but are still ugly and poor noone will want you.>there's nowhere where its okay to be a femaleBeing a female isnt illegal or creepy. Hitting on women is creepy>>84262299>go on more datesWomen dont want to go on dates with me>heroinI dont do drugs especially not heroin.>donate your body to scienceCant you do this only if you die? You cant date post mortem
>>84262373Why are you taking this dilating tranny seriously you retarded m*le? Fuck's sake i hate m*n you're actual niggers
>>84262373>If you care about romance but are still ugly and poor noone will want you.There are entire countries of poor and ugly guys who still have relationships.>Being a female isnt illegal or creepy. Hitting on women is creepyIt is illegal and can get you sent to prison. Women still do it anyway.>Women dont want to go on dates with meYou aren't that special. They would go on a date with a dust cloud if they could.>I dont do drugs especially not heroin.You're already better than the vast majority of men.>Cant you do this only if you die? You cant date post mortemIf you are so insanely deformed that you can't find a compatible woman then you are p. much dead already, they don't survive long. I still assume you just have extremely high standards. Romance is boring for the most part, it's just a normal part of life (if you want it)
>>84262442>There are entire countries of poor and ugly guys who still have relationships.There arent. Dont be racist>It is illegal and can get you sent to prison. Women still do it anyway.Its not. Show me a single western country where being a woman is illegal>You aren't that special. They would go on a date with a dust cloud if they could.Still wont change the fact they dont want to date me>you can't find a compatible woman then you are p. much dead already, they don't survive long. Are you suggesting i kill myself? How is that supposed to get me dates?>I still assume you just have extremely high standardsNo, i just cant find a single woman who wants to date me
>>84257196>>84257553The only reason the lower 80% of men are allowed to exist is because we prop up the economy and welfare state. We will be shipped off to die in Iran if it benefits our rulers more than our economic output.
>>84262462>There arent. Dont be racistWho are you replying to? There was no race there.>Its not. Show me a single western country where being a woman is illegalLiterally all of them. Women aren't allowed to go anywhere but they just do it anyway. It's not safe but that's life.>Still wont change the fact they dont want to date meI was saying you don't want to date any of them.>Are you suggesting i kill myself? How is that supposed to get me dates?I suggested you go on dates if you want to. If you are a insanely deformed mutant freak you will die shortly just naturally. >No, i just cant find a single woman who wants to date meNobody said you were looking for a woman who wants to date you. People go on dates as just a normal part of life.
>>84262467Even if you are a neet you still benefit the elite by your consumption. More single people causes a higher demand for housing, propping up real estate.
>>84262484This is absolute gold. Saved this post i love you anon even if you're a tranny.
>>84262484>Who are you replying to? There was no race thereName those countries then>Literally all of them. Women aren't allowed to go anywhere but they just do it anywayShow me the law that says they arent allowed to go anywhere>was saying you don't want to date any of them.I want to date but they dont want to date me>I suggested you go on dates if you want toI cant go on dates because you need two people to agree and women dont want to go on dates with me>Nobody said you were looking for a woman who wants to date you.I did. I said that> People go on dates as just a normal part of lifeI dont because women dont want to date me
>>84258508>porn is one of the main reasons why young guys don't go out to social eventsWhen I was in college I couldn't get into most parties because I wasn't a girl and would either have to pay to get in or just fuck off. If I go to a bar, there's not just a bunch a girls waiting for me. If I go on a dating site, there are like 80% men. The fact is society doesn't give a fuck about men. We are an afterthought.
>>84262531>Name those countries thenName which countries>Show me the law that says they arent allowed to go anywhereIt's literally the same law that says men can't talk to women. It's in the bible.>I cant go on dates because you need two people to agree and women dont want to go on dates with meNobody was talking about two people. If you want to date then you would be dating. It takes a billion people to create a food supply chain but if you just don't want to eat then you won't eat.>I did. I said thatYou never looked for a woman in your life. You don't even know what they want. >I dont because women dont want to date meThen you don't care about dating.
I'm 28 and since I turned 25, my father has regularly pestered me about not having a girlfriend. Recently, my father paid off the remaining mortgage on a house and signed it over to me. My father thinks I should just go out and approach women and try to get a girlfriend. I told him that is risky and he thinks it's because I think a woman would use me to get the house (which I do think) and he always just says "Not all women are like that" and keeps insisting I get a girlfriend. He said any man can get sex and you don't need loads of money or even a job to get sex from women. My father even kept saying that I should have sex with a prostitute and that having sex would help. I told him that paying prostitutes in Ireland is illegal and you can go to prison for five years and he denied it even though it's true.After telling him I don't want a girlfriend, he switched to asking me if I want an asian girlfriend (because I watch anime, read manga and go to comic conventions).I wish he would just stop asking me
>>84262634A lot of Irish guys are gay honestly. Your story doesn't surprise me.
>>84262596>which countriesThe countries full of poor and ugly men you named>It's literally the same law that says men can't talk to women. It's in the bible.The bible isnt a country and people over the west dont really follow it>If you want to date then you would be datingHow do i date if women dont want to date me?>You never looked for a woman in your life. You don't even know what they want.I did. They dont want me>Then you don't care about dating.No they just dont want to date me
>>84262695>The countries full of poor and ugly men you namedpapua new guinea>The bible isnt a country and people over the west dont really follow itexactly. people don't care what is "allowed" or not. >How do i date if women dont want to date me?By going on dates. how many dates have you tried to set up for today?>I did. They dont want meNo that was a lie.>No they just dont want to date meI was talking about the anon earlier who didn't actually care about dating, which is why he doesn't go on any dates.
>>84262634>prostitutes in IrelandIrish baby boomers are some of stupidest ignorant people on the planet so just tell him to stfu and ignore him. No wonder that island is going to shit if you young fags keep humoring boomers.
>>84262634>asking me if I want an asian girlfriendBased dad knows what's up, why don't you go with him on a father son trip to some Asian shithole and fuck prozzies together?
>>84257221>Looksmaxxing and incel/blackpill lingo in normie vocabulary is also another sign.I know it shouldn't surprise me but the rise of this has still been absolutely wild to witness, having been there circa 2014-17 when such words were only used on niche corners of the web.
>>84262717>papua new guineaHas the highest rates of forced sex and violence against women. Hardly an example if the only way ugly and poor men can find a mate is through force>people don't care what is "allowed" or not.They do when its the law. The bible isnt the law.>by going on datesWomen dont want to go on dates with me>that was a lieIts not. Women dont want to date me.
>>84263048How many women have you dated this past week? Note: I am not asking you what you think women want or don't want, I am asking you about your own personal interest in dating.
>>84262833Even comments on Reddit that say the blackpill are true are getting hundreds of upvotes now. You'd get downvoted into oblivion and called an incel years ago for saying shit like that.
>>84258508We don't go because you guys are very status oriented hierarchal and perfomative so when you go to these places it becomes a toxic pissing match where the mid and lower guys lose and get humiliated. The women just want the guys there for ego trips from the rejections they get to do.
>>84263105Zero because zero women wanted to go on dates with meNote: i dont decide to date or not, women chise if they want to date me or not
>>84264308>Zeroso you were lying about wanting to date.
I have a waifu and don't get lonely anyway.Society isn't my problem or concern.
>>84257285>37% of men get 66% of women>Data suggests ~20% of women haven't been laid in the previous year, so ~14% of women are "single" but still getting it in. >63% of young men effectively get less than 14% of women as they simply do not have the same access to women as vice versa. >Assuming a 2:1 ratio on dating sites, it's likely that this 63% of men are sharing a total of 5-14% of women in this demographic. So single men may be mismatched in terms of access to sex (compared with women) by as much as a 63:5 ratio, or 12.7 to 1.
>>84265745You're forgetting that most "single" men identify as LGBT.
>>84265745Original fire yam
>>84258615>That's not how attraction works, it builds up over time as you get to know someone betterThis is 150% not how it works, it peaks at the start and if anything fades over time. If it's not there instantly it will never be there. And if you are good looking but have no personality, you could still have a bodycount in the triple digits by just hooking up with women and then getting ditched after 1-3 encounters bc they can't stand you.
>>84265996>peaks at the startporn addict brain. strangers don't even register as humans for the most part. attraction builds as you get to know people, along with trust and intimacy. you can think a bimbo is hot but the whole point of actual attraction is that you are drawn to the person and the experiences with them, not just her ass.
Women: Shit on and mock men constantly for being virgins and shaming men for going to prostitutes to lose their virginityAlso women: Will fuck a literal child rapist if he is hot
>>84266022Must be esl because "attraction" literally refers to the physical appeal, like the bimbo's big ass. Tell me the word they use in your thirdie shithole for the love that develops over time in arranged marriages.
>>84266049Are you esl? Attraction has never just been about superficial shit. Do you think men only hang out with bimbos?
>>84266025>women love incels, trust me!no they dont. they try to avoid incels.
>>84259337No amount of wealth will buy that when you look like that anon. Though, the simplest explanation is that she gets and digs that clout she gets from dating an ogre like him (currently she has 45K+ followers on IG, and it's increasing). Marrying someone you would normally have 0% of attrraction to just for clout and attention is extremely soulless, vain, narcissistic, but leave it to women to not put it past them to do something like that. At the end of the day, it's her loss, her reputation (for anyone who doesn't virtue signal and recognize what she's really after), and her family's who have to live with the embarrassment.
>>84259385how very niggerlexical of you
>>84258508Porn gives you unrealistic expectations, like thinking that sex might actually be enjoyable or that you might have an attractive partner one day.
>>84266506Not sure what world you come from where sex is not enjoyable, or that people don't find attractive partners. In fact, that's a delusion not grounded in reality.
>>84266520Sex is trite and overrated and the average person looks awful.
>>84266526Last time I had sex was over 10 years ago, where I lost my virginity. We did it again a few more times before she ultimately moved. It was the highlight of my life. I still remember almost every detail of it and wish I was back in that time. You are delusional. Sex is the number one reason why relationships with women are worth it, otherwise they would be worthless since women tend to be vain and they're no fun to be around most of the other times.
>>84259995you're not getting with those high status men thoughharems are illegal so while you can fuck a few of them when you're super young you inevitably end up alone if the majority of men are increasingly opting outhow is this so hard for you fucking retards to grasp? I swear the average IQ in this thread is like 95.
>>84264453No. I have zero because women refuse date me.
>>84257196The societal consequences will be Chad harems legalized
>>84259979I hate you niggers. I'm not going to war to fight for some whore who doesn't even like me.
>>84262634He gave you a big present, he is relative who cares about you even if he is misguided.I believe you should give him your efforts back. Visits some dating events.As for prostitution it's legal in Netherlands and Germany right? It should be not difficult for your to travel there.
>>84262833What is wild is living through the era where PUA game actually worked in real life, then watching it collapse when online dating became normalized, then watching the backlash blackpill and looksmaxxing thing happen THEN watching it go mainstream and seeing 60% of men singleTotally insane shit. Every nerd I knew in college between 2003-2007 had a looksmatched girlfriend. 4chan was full of nerds with girlfriends. Incel was a hyper obscure term and WIZARD was what we said about people who made it to 30 without sex
1. Most of arent really hot aka Chad2. Most of us are trained by our older female contemporaries to be vagina drying nice guy wusses while the minority of us who go by make instinct to be a womanizing jackass swim in pussy
Society doesn't let people be dweebs anymore. You can't be a nerdy geeky shrimpy dork and just live in peace. That would mean you have hobbies and interests extending beyond work and family. Ew, so gross! Sex is all that matters, so you can have an excuse to work and start a family. Oh, you like anime? Well, better make sure you're earning income and seeing a woman on the side, or else you're a complete and total failure regardless of what actual accomplishments you might have.
>>84267916You have zero because you aren't trying to date anyone. If you wanted to date then you'd have experience.
>>84269477Tranime is definitely for failures. They don't make tranime for normal people.
>>84269650No i have zero bzcause women dont want to date me. I cant date if i dont have anyone to date.
>>84270068Which women did you ask today?
>>84270083I have asked two of them today.They refused. Women dont want to date me.
>>84257196I think we are all getting stupider somehow
>>84270091Where did you meet them? Did they smell good?
>>84270099>>84270099I met them outside.Yeah ig but they dont want to date me.
>>84270122>outsideautism. at least you make it obvious that you never tried to date anyone.
>>84270135Do you not know what outside is?Do you even go out? Are you thisbmuch of an autistic neet?Women refuse to date me.
>>84270148I think about the outside a lot of the free time. I appreciate your honesty and your attempt at being funny. I'm surprised you tried to use the outside meme after using "women" instead of "female" if you are now trying to be autism coded.
>>84270156As expected youre a projecting autist.How many parties have you gone to today? I bet you dont even go to parties.
>>84270177I went to two parties today at the outside. Have you ever been outside before? I bet you aren't even married yet.
>>84270188As expected you dont even go to parties. You dont even know what outside is. I bet youre single.
>>84270194>I bet your single.Stopped reading there. It's "you're", not your. Anyway, I agree and fully support humiliating single people. Imagine being single in 2026.
>>84270203As expected youre single and dont even attend parties.Youre probably not even married.
>>84270212>As expected youre single and dont even attend partiesSingle men and femcels are parasites. What is wrong with them?
>>84270224Of course youre not even married. Youre probably single too. Youd know if you went outside.
>>84270232>Of course youre not even married. I bet there are people here who don't have a wife or kids>Your probably single tooMy what. It's "you're.">Youd know if you went outside.There are no men outside. it's all women and boomers.
>>84258060>a couple of hundred yearsYou need to retake some biology classes bro.
>>84270244You probably dont even have kids. I bet youre that troll from belgium.
>>84270045Pretty much. Weird asian cartoons.
>>84265745Men dont exist. It all women and boomers.
>>84270253There was actually a single male here from Arlon, Belgium. LOL what a cuck.
