What I don't understand about Asians is the extreme and deeply rooted shame culture. It's like 180 degrees difference from being an individualist who doesn't care at all what anyone thinks. From the perspective of the latter, the typical mindset of that seems just like pointless self-cuckoldry. Is it because of their ancestors having endured thousands of years of oppressive rule, whereby the appearance of conformity is an absolute must, lest the taller blades of grass be cut by the sword of the emperor?
>>84274697You're referring to japs, chinks and gooks here. Indians and SEAs have little to no shame culture, nowadays at least.Long story short, it's because of Confucianism. Look it up.
what i don't understand is how youngshits find this site
SlayerSlayer needs to chime in on this thread
>>84274697>I don't understandjust take the extreme and deeply rooted guilt culture of the west and replace god with Community, then it mostly makes sense
>>84274721because memes glorify this site
>>84274706Of course Indians and seas have a culture of shame. What a retard
ive missed disciprineposter... its been trillions of years...
Interestingly, the pic op posted is of James Hong. Hes Presbyterian. More likely to few guilt than shame culture.
What I don't understand about Asians is ching chong bing bong hu man chu nihao
>>84274706Indians have izzat which is similar but quite stupid because it lacks the positive aspects of Confucian morality.
>>84274697I find it extremely useful and it seems almost perfect to me. I get respected when I grow older and my reputation improves because of how I support others in public. This is much better than every other system because it improves equality in my opinion.
>>84274697It's because individualism, in exchange for offering more freedom for those individuals, sacrifices the good of the general population, and that general population cannot be neglected if you're an isolated island nation and don't want to completely collapse.
I'm a South Korean and I hate it, even though Asian nations tend to be more stable than American ones.
>>84276611the only tolerable koreans i've met were always intensely self hating, not in the typical fashion of being a self hating east asian who wants to conform and be a beautiful rich white person, but as in completely disavowing the south korean hivemind
>>84276632Glad to hear, anon. Yeah I don't want to be the hivemind, they are too judgemental. Like, there was this one pastor in church screaming about how people aren't getting married or having kids at age 25 like it was a grave sin.
>>84276632And also, I am married to a beautiful rich white person, so I am living many of their dreams right now, lmao.
>>84276371Not really, individualist nations of western Europe have the highest standards of living historically. Great Britain is also an island and the anglos are probably some of the most individualist people ever.
>>84276681Great Britain is also collapsing due to these values so I'm not sure what you're getting at.
>>84274697>>84276681>>84277429Individualism works in small doses, i.e. you're not going to feel shame if you don't follow in your father's footsteps of doing 18 hour shifts in a mineshaft, and your happy to push yourself forward instead of relying on your family and the state to do the same. But ultimately, like what we see in Britain, individualism as of late causes selfish thinking. You look at the state of marriage for instance, 42% are expected to end in divorce, and from experience - this is mostly due to the animal / individualistic want and need to put your own fantasies (infidelity) over those of the children and significant other.In a society wherein shame was strong enough to ostracise this sort of shitty behaviour, it would likely be the case that many of the problems we see now wouldn't unfold.
>>84274697You already answered your own question "conformity" from the time they're an infant they are brainwashed with shame culture and collective culture it's all extremely shallow. America was founded on rugged individualism and self-reliance so an attitude of "ay man fuck you!" comes so naturally to us and while this way of life has a slew of it's own problems as a society still I much rather be an irreverent white American man than a emotionally repressed disposable cog in the machinery of asian societies.