>gay men have a shortage of tops and most are bottoms or "versatiles" (with an actual preference to bottom)>trannies have a shortage of tops and doms (almost all troons are subs)>women have a shortage of doms and are surrounded more and more by guys who want a femdom mommy (or is vanilla/neutral at best)Funny.
tis a season of plenty :)
>>84312076I blame chemicals in the water
>>84312076Almost like having to shoulder so much baggage just day-by-day makes men want to genuinely be able to not have to be dominant, but be intimate and vulnerable, too.
>>84312076literally how am I an incel then? I'll fuck anything with a hole
>>84312088youre ugly and weird
>>84312076Good fuck everyone, no one gets what they want
>>84312076>women have a shortage of domsthis cant be truegood looking doms sure but doms in general nah
>>84312076>trannies have a shortage of tops and doms (almost all troons are subs)Funny cause so many troons try to get into relationships with women and then end up falling for actual men when they realize that they arent attracted to women anymore
>>84312076Everyone's just craving dick these days, huh?
>>84312105What you described is textbook coping.
>>84312076>women have a shortage of domsim a manlet dom and im insanely dominating who wants me
you could've said "i am sexually attracted to men" and it wouldn't be 10% as gay as what you just saidjesus christ that's amazing athiest-tier cringe
>>84312104Absolutely is true. Every thread about this topic on r9k has tons of guys say they find it cringe to dominate women or it turns them off, or they want to be dominated. And even outside of 4chan, even going into normalfag communities like reddit or youtube you'll see women complain that their boyfriends prefer to be subs in bed.
>>84312104I could post a million of these screenshots.But even in my personal relationships (my friends, who are happy normies) they would complain and bicker in our group chat about their boyfriends not really being dom sexually and having a preference to be tied up themselves or shit like that lmaooo
>>84312105A lot of troons go for men eventually because they never get the true dom experience from their female partner. This f1nn troon is a good example, he started out as a typical "femboy" who liked women, mommies and other trannies. But the women only LARPed to be doms and the trannies he dated got tired of being the dominant partner, so he then also started to look for male partners.And in one of his latest videos he said his sexuality is "being a sub" first and foremost. 99% of females and troons won't satisfy a sub without money or LARP being involved.
>>84312154>>84312166i mean idrc because i cant even imagine myself being a sub as a man but realistically 90% of men are prob doms or neutrals instead of subs its biologically inbuilt in is
>>84312083*tops you* Take that sdbottom!
can some break it down for me as to what being dom entails?
>>84312188dominant, decisive, leading, commanding, controlling, aggressive, demeaning
>>84312188>what being dom entails?for me aside from the general acts like spanking or tying her up or choking etc its more about being in total control like i get to decide what happens during sex for both her and me and like im controlling her both physically and psychologically, like if i give a command or tell her to do something she will
>>84312185Dude, it's so not true. Straight women have the biggest orgasm gap. Straight men 91% of the time orgasm in relationships, straight women like 30% of the times. Men are generally not very interested or good at sex or satisfying female sexuality. Penetrating someone doesn't mean you're a dom.
>>84312183holy shit the wall is real for troons too
>>84312188there are a lot of different dom styles.. masters, daddies, caretakers.. a dom could be an aggressive predator type guy doing cnc with his gf or a sweet, manipulative guy patting your head and hypnotizing you to be a willing sex slave (RP of course) for example i like the latter more its more like my bf dont like rough or "i am your master stuff" it varies a lot for ppl
>>84312202so a rightoid basically>>84312210i don't see why so many people are allegedly averse to making sex commands
>>84312154they don't want to get metooed
>>84312187*crushes your head between my thighs, turning it into a fine red paste*
>>84312233>rightoidthose that are on the outside dominant are often submissive in bedyou have a better chance finding a real dom at a lgbtq march
>>84312237its literally his girlfriend in the post tho
>>84312076Dom and sub are for fags and BDSM fetish relationships it doesn't apply to most heterosexual couplesMost men who claim to be into femdom aren't actually interested in it and aren't subs at all. They just want a big tittied goth girl who will ride them sometimes but will probably get bored and want to fuck their gf as normal l. Absolute blackpill for dominant women.
>>84312233>i don't see why so many people are allegedly averse to making sex commandsI didnt know this was a thing, i always made commands during sex to my girl like just naturally telling her what to do when and i just assumed this was normal
>>84312237It doesn't stop men from having insane cuck fetishes or crossdressing, also life ruining shit.
>>84312268>my girlholy normie
>>84312258anything you say or do in the relationship (as well as things you never said or did) can and will be used against you when she breaks it off>>84312269boomers grew up under vastly different circumstances so aren't as wary
>>84312295>anything you say or do in the relationship (as well as things you never said or did) can and will be used against you when she breaks it offgenuinely go outside and touch some grassstop acting like a cuck
>>84312304not an argument, thank you for your concession, etc etc
>>84312325I mean are you just never going to get into a relationship then? since you said this>(as well as things you never said or did)
>>84312154oh it's this larping reddit nigger again
>>84312331>I meanlol gb2 plebbit>are you just never going to get into a relationship thennot what I said>(as well as things you never said or did)meaning she'll make shit up, retard
>>84312364>schizophrenia kicking inOHHh godd... OH GOOOD... ITS... IM SEEING... PEOPLE OH GOD... THE SAME PERSON... ITS ALL THE SAME...
>>84312076i'm mostly left leaning but this phenomenon of cucked submissive men that refuse to be dominant has made me believe that maybe the right is right (haha) about men getting softer
>>84312262>Most men who claim to be into femdom aren't actually interested in it and aren't subs at alli wouldn't say most, but there are definitely guys out there who think they want one thing or are going with a trend and are surprised when it's not what they wanted or expected it to be like. it's largely an inexperience thing and easy to spot once you know the signs. real subs are very forthright about being genuine subs and tend to have a good idea of what they want, even if they have little experience. they're the biggest majority. experienced subs are my personal favorite because they know exactly what they want and like and have the communication skills to voice their preferences then happily hand themselves over
>>84312370you probably shouldn't post the exact same shit every time you make this thread, retard
>>84312372its more that alex jones is right about them putting estrogen in our water instead of the right or the left
>>84312076This isn't true at all if youve spent any time doing gay shitSource: me unfortunately
>>84312386yeah but you only ever hear conservatives & right wingers talk about it, lefties are ignorant/deny it
>>84312384>screenshots I never posted before in my life>anon has a schizo meltdownuaaHHohhhHOH oh god oh GODDDD
>>84312399yeah I struck a nerve lmfaoo
>>84312395actually delusional to the max
>>84312413you gotta strike an appointment with a shrink next my nigga
>>84312076All the people you listed have a shortage of chads not tops/doms
>>84312450not at all bro, not at all
>>84312461>not at all bro, not at allwhat about me then >>84312125
>>84312417Me? I don't think so. From my experience everyone wants their dick sucked even troons
>>84312479>most trannies are tops/doms who want their dicks suckedYeah, you are completely delusional. Most of them are dysphoric about their dick and don't want it SUCKED like a man. That's a porn-escort fantasy.>>84312476What about you? You have problems finding love?
>>84312447I'll just keep striking your nerve lmfao
>>84312493you keep bumping this thread and being used as fodder while having a lil schizo melty and it's beautiful
>>84312485>What about you? You have problems finding love?yeah atleast from women, despite being like a proper textbook dom prob even further than that
>>84312504Yeah, height unfortunately plays a role but you def have much bigger chances as a short dom than a short sub or short vanilla guy.
>>84312461You can go on tinder or grindr right now as a top and you will get no matches the bottoms do not want average or mid guys they want chads it's the exact same dating market as women
>>84312485Doesn't really matter what you say because I've seen it firsthand and I'm guessing you haven't
>>84312526>whole community of chasers complaining about lack of "dom" "suck my dick" troons>random autist anon believes otherwiseok>>84312520Most men hooking up in gay amateur porn or cruising outside arent hot tops at all
>>84312502you are literally getting braindommed like a little mentalsub right now and it's incredible
>>84312516yeah but its not like a woman is going to know if im a dom or a sub before i go on a date with her or have sex with her
>>84312543>he says, as he bumps the thread like a good goyehehe
>>84312536I guess I have insane luck thenDo you have actual experience with this or are you just reading stuff
>>84312571>he says as his mind gets gaped ehehhhahaeh
>>84312591>ehehhhahaeh
>>84312238*slowly flow, sensually and extremely sexually, down the inside of your thighs*
>>84312076I think it's due to micro plastics..
>>84312188I find "domineering" to be the best way to describe it in a simple way
>>84312076>women have a shortage of doms and are surrounded more and more by guys who want a femdom mommy (or is vanilla/neutral at best)I want a submissive free use foid who will stay at home and do everything I tell her.
>>84312076Aids ridden mentally ill sexually perverse faggots have a shortage of tops because faggotry was a diversion to hide the fact that men have been spiritually castrated and are no longer men. It's just gotten so bad that even in the weak world of being a faggot they've become even weaker and are only bottoms, such is their passivity.
>>84313347You sound like you need to get topped on grindr
>>84312076Don't care. Sexhaver problems are not my problem. Especially the FAGGOT sex havers. Those are just plain disgusting.
>>84312076>women have a shortage of domsChadDoms (only tm)Women don't give a fuck if an average guy or a 7/10 guy is a dom. Sub 8 is LAW
>>84313568so many ugly and or old fat doms on fetlife with cute girls, stfu
>>84313712*so many ugly and or old fat doms on fetlife with old fat ugly women
>>84314165nope but EVEN IF they were with their looksmatch so what?
>>84312076>>women have a shortage of domsNah, unless by that you mean cringe 50 shades of gray stuff
>>84314195>look I found people who do bdsm photography crap professionally this is totally reflective of actual relationships
>>84314234>nooo it's not real it's just a photoshootman shut the fuck up retardhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYsmBvakPuQbro is literally much older and a manlet (she's taller)he's not richshe is definitely his looksmatch or rather most people would say she looks better than he does due to her being younger and taller
>>84312076RealHow do we fix the top shortage? This is an unironic problem
>>84312076>gay men have a shortage of topsnot true at all from my experience
>>84312076>>gay men have a shortage of tops Lucky me
>>84314411They have been together for a long time and she's really into it. She has a nice body naked too.
If you're gonna go gay you might as well bottom. I'd rather get my shit on someone else's dick than the other way around.
>>84312217the wall for tranners is 24
>>84314454"Get shitted on" sure does take on an interesting meaning here.
>>84312211>straight women like 30% of the timesactually it's about 60% of the timehttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6035747
>>84314477I think shat is more of the correct term here but I digress
>>84312076When times are tough more people want someone else to take control
>>84314493"Mens orgasm rates ranged from 70% to 85%, while womens ranged from 46% to 58%. Men reported orgasm rates between 22% and 30% higher than womens rates."https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11217024/the 33% number was from casual sex with heterosexual men:https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Descriptive-statistics_tbl2_337659894
>>84314540Times are always tough though.
>>84312076Most people are naturally submissive, including the majority of men.Its path of least difficulty, people like to do whats easiest. Also kind of a pain in the ass.
>>84312217wall hits twice as fast for troons. once twink death occurs its over and no one stays a twink for long.
>>84312076real actual tops are rapists anything else is just performative. if you rely on the consent of the sub then they're the ones with the actual power over the relationship not you.Real tops and doms are doing what they please taking what they please through sheer strength (either physical or societal)BDSM is just a mockery what true domination is
I wish I was into dudes then I would be able to cum inside all the fresh warm bodies Id likebut noooo I have to be insufferably straight and never get laid ever because I dont have the magical """"confidence"""" gene that every man on earth must possess to get laid with a foid.
>>84312520if you go on tinder or grindr and you're not able to find a quick fuck there as a gay man then you must look like an actual abomination
>>84314764are you gay and get hook ups?
>>84312076erectile dysfunction is probably why
If that's true why is it so hard to find submissive girls?
>>84312372or maybe they finally feel that it's safe to admit to it? it's like how if you went out and asked people on the street then no one will ever admit they are a pedophile despite the fact that statistically at least one of them should be one
>>84314735>Most people are naturally submissive, including the majority of men.no they fuck they arent? atleast the ones with normal hormone and test levels even now if you take a sub man and put him on test hes like 90% going to become a dom on his own
>>84314932Im not gay and get gook upst. Foid
>>84314735the history of humanity is that of cruel tyrants ruling over you who would kill anyone that stepped out of line, naturally evolution would then select for submissiveness and passivity as they had the greatest chance of surviving and reproducing.
>>84312076Correct. As a malesub I gave up on dating for this exact reason. Everyone is a sub and the few self-proclaimed doms are all fake/insecure/abusive. It's all fucked.
>>84314195charles mcgill
>>84312076>trannies have a shortage of tops and doms (almost all troons are subs)Nice headcanon. Almost all troon escorts in my area are doms or versatile and I can't find subs.
>>84312104>>84312154>>84312166>>84312185>>84312188>>84312202y'all need to learn the difference between domming and topping. What all these groups want is a man to top them. domming is a very specific part of BDSM that involves not just topping, but control, to various degrees. The reason why these groups think there arent enough "doms" to go around is because most men can't separate topping when outside the bedroom. They don't realise it's roleplay, so either are sweet all the time, or are assholes all the time, especially to women. Very few men can just switch off being a loving and caring partner during sex and choke the shit out of her while threatening to kill her. Very few men are psycopathetic enough to do this LARP so women (and all those other fags) just date badboys, because in the end, the most attractive thing you can be as a partner, to anyone, is good at sex. A Chad, if you will. These very same people will then complain the badboy treats them like shit outside the bedroom, probably breakup, and do it all over again. Nothing more dangerous than a Chad who figures this out. Figures out he can manipulate women by lovebombing them, then slutting them out in bed. Most men are hard wired to be loving and caring, especially to women. To overcome this urge during sex treat women how women WANT to be treated, it takes some self-awareness.>>84312262Men's fantasy idea of femdom is just a sexually forward attractive woman. Woman's idea of femdom is about power and control, so they do shit like face sitting and pegging, because they think that's what "dom" is. and not just the person on top who controls where, when and how sex is done. Because someone has to. Someone has to be the decision maker on when sex is requested. Requests can be denied of course, but it has to be made
>>84316671that's just a marketing thing because the majority of their clientele are porn addicted gooners who just want to suck dick and get topped to live out some retarded futa fantasy
>>84316736so how do i become a dom instead of just a normal topshould i just rp as the guy from 50 shades of grey?
>>84312076>gay men have a shortage of topssource?i really should become gay...
>>84316761>should i just rp as the guy from 50 shades of grey?unironically, yes. But you better be a pretty good actor or let her know this is just rp. Ideally it's not an act and you genuinely enjoy violent, painful, dangerous sex with your partner. But very few people are actual sadists who know when to stop when the sex ends. That's what women want. If you're chad enough she might be ok with it being roleplay and you being a subpar actor. But if you're chad enough you can get away with anything. Domming is more than simply being the one on top during missionary. It's things like pinning her hand above her head, biting her neck, and telling her to quit fighting and take it like the little slut she is
>>84316776>Ideally it's not an act and you genuinely enjoy violent, painful, dangerous sex with your partner.I mean this is me by roleplaying him i meant more like my personality and the way i talk during sex
>>84316463Just admit you are Chad only.
>>84316783>my personality and the way i talk during sexthe fact that you talk at all already puts you ahead of most men, though personally i find that particular example to be cringe. they had to tone it down for a film so he just comes across pretty nonchalant, but it was still enough to have women gooning in theatres. Imagine what you can do with actually good dirty talking>but what counts as good dirty talking?whatever she likes. mocking her insecurities, gaslighting her that she's a bigger slut she pretends to be, or just threatening to kidnap, beat or kill her. You don't have to discuss this with her, but BDSM recommends you do
>>84316798so how do you go about all this in a new relationship like im not dating any girl rn but lets say when i start dating a new girl how do i go about it
>>84316820You just go for it. Legally it's probably better to let her know beforehand you like violent sex, but technically it's not legal to try violent sex with someone without discussing it. it's only illegal if you dont stop when asked, and I mean REALLY asked and not just her playing along, beause that's when consent gets revoked. You can try telling her that you're going to choke the shit out of her during foreplay and see how she reacts but otherwise, just do it
>>84316830how about i just ask her during sex instead of before but frame it in a way like i can tell you like to get choked or would that be a turn off
>>84316849see? Even you're uncomfortable with it. Again if you're Chad enough she might be ok with discussing it, but you're better off making the assumptions. Women HATE when you have to stop to constantly ask them things, they want to you to just know, or presume and don't care if you're wrong. This sounds dangerously close to Metoo but unless you're actually just psycopathetic and turn it into actual rape, you'll know when you've crossed the line (hopefully)
>>84316878nah im not really uncomfortable with it like i didnt ask my ex before i spanked and choked her etc but i dont want to scare a new girl off by going too extreme in the beginning cause the stuff im into is actually kinda really beyond just pinning her wrists innit
>>84316894If you're worried about scaring her off then you don't like it enough to risk it, and she'll be able to tell you're faking it
>>84312076i find this impossible to believe as a woman who is into gentle femdom and cannot find anyone besides moids who will just force rough larpy sex on you assuming every woman likes it they are all just like that nowadays because that's what they saw in porn
>>84316915i mean like dude i cant just slap her the first time we have sex innit even if i really want to or can i just do that
>>84316930Of course you can. Chad does it all the time and better to let her know this is the kind of sex you like upfront.You do like it, right? It's not just a larp? because again, she'll be able to tell and it will turn her off
>>84316935>You do like it, right? It's not just a larp?yeah obviously bruh but its more like with my ex she was pretty clearly into all of this too so i kinda never had to worry about going too far with herso with the new relationship i was just thinking if i should ease into all of this like the first time we fuck maybe im just normal dominant and pinning her wrists and spanking her etc or if i should just go straight to choking and slapping her the first time
>>84316944>or i should just go straight to choking and slapping her the first timeyes. establish it as soon as possible that this is what you like, before sex even during foreplay/dirty, maybe even when you first meet by giving off that vibe. remember, it's not creepy if youre hot enough. If you're hot enough you could insult a bitch right to her face and she'll just think you like to banter
>>84316957>it's not creepy if youre hot enoughah there it is, well it did work out with my ex despite me not being "hot enough" so i guess ill just do the same thing by establishing all this early
>>84316966The fact that you're already about to fuck her means she thinks you're hot, at that point you're most likely fine. Either she's into rough sex or she's into you enough to tolerate it, and that's when you start the manipulation dirty talk by saying how much of a kinky slut she is. Get her wondering she is. Bitches love to wonder, they love confusing guys. Ever read a romance book? half the time it's the woman going on about how she's arguing with herself if she's really a slut. Women do be thinking a lot. Not men, men like to switch our brains off
>>84316978isnt it kinda the opposite tho like with me the girl kinda wanted to delegate her share of thinking to me and like just me telling her what to do and how to do it like even in this case im the one telling her how much of a whore she is and what im going to do her and shes kinda just accepting it all
>>84317008You're the one putting the thoughts in her head for her to spend all day thinking on. That's what she wants. Tell her what to think about. Make her think about you
>>84317042>That's what she wants. Tell her what to think about. Make her think about youHow do i do this part and specifically in context of outside sex
>>84316927>any gentle femdom community (fetlife, reddit, 4chan, anywhere)>ratio of men to women is like 99:1Sis....
>>84312086I do would do anything for a woman that would rub my head and kiss me sweetly when I needed it but noooo. Men are supposed to be unemotional robotic tools. I hate women now, I'm a dom but I'm a bitter spiteful hateful man now and I enjoy hurting women when I used to love women
>>84312076being dom means they want you to approach them which is risky, being dom in the bedroom at all is extremely risky and can be used against you, no one defends a dom in court
>>84317438I think you just have an autism problem for not being able to analyze relationships or human feelings. The one and only man I've ever been with (for 9+ years) and are obsessed with is very emotional and sexually dominant. He's not emotional like a bitch incel losing his temper, seething, or whatever the sort. But he cares a lot, he's very clingy and lovey-dovey, he expresses so much empathy or when he suffers or worries. What most women generally mean is that they don't want a man who is like a hormonal WOMAN. Neurotic, crying over not getting their favorite star bucks drink, easily overstimulated, complaining and bitching. Most desirable men in books, movies or daydreams absolutely do cry, are vulnerable or show emotions but just not in a bitchy woman way.
>>84317651No I'm this way because every attempt to find love has been met with comically evil behavior from the women I've been courting because of women being women. I have never shown emotions like a woman, and yet still women treat me like shit. I know I'm way too nice but I don't know how to find the balance between love and care and sadism.I've been hurt a lot by women and I can't trust them anymore
>>84317685I don't understand your experiences. You dated several women but you were "too nice" and that lead them to breaking up or getting evil? What do you mean with too nice?
