Girls who don't like animals don't sit well with me. This also goes for people in general. But I'm going to focus on women in my post because I'm attracted to them and not men.I wouldn't trust a man who doesn't like animals either. If a girl doesn't like taking care of something weaker than her and giving it a good life I don't want to be around her. That gets even more intense if she doesn't like my pets. I like cats, reptiles, frogs, and birds. I'm a male. I never owned a dog, but I don't dislike them. I'd own a Husky type dog perhaps, they look beautiful to me I like the wolf like look.I enjoy taking care of my pets, and feeding them. It's nice to spend time with them and give them affection with out having to think of something clever or witty to say unlike with women. I can just pet the cat and he is happy, or feed him. My lizard closes his eyes as he sits on my lap when i pet his head even. I think he enjoys it to some level because when he's scared he obviously hisses moves around fast and huffs and puffs or shits/pisses in my hand. I like seeing the lizard be calm enough to close his eyes and rest on my lap, it's cool, my lizard is about 30 years old too, I've had him for 30 years.If someone can't give a pet a good life I understand it, but it doesn't sit well with me if people don't have pets because >they dislike caring for something and are only focused on status wealth and sex and "passing on their genes"People like the green text above I am happy not to know or interact with, their personalities have something wrong with them at the core level in my opinion.
But what's the ROI on that?
>>84330768>I get no return on invetment finacially from having a pet and it costs me money so I don't like itIf this is what you meant genuinely, you're the type of person who i think has something wrong with their personality at the core level
>>84330777>Return of InvestmentI was simply making a joke lol, relax nonny, i agree with what you said.
>>84331222Oh couldn't tell if it was a joke.It's not the "I don't like animals" it's self, it's the reasons they might not like animals.Disliking something weaker than them, disliking something helpless, disliking caring for something when you get no money or status, disliking something innocent.It reminds me of psychopathic businessman type behavior for some reason.It just doesn't set well with me in my gut if someone doesn't like animals. I don't think it's wise to trust people who don't like pets or animals because the reasons for their dislike are probably rancid when described in english, like the reasons a psychopathic business man or politician (even if they dont kill others) does what he does.
>>84330748>attractive is the first thing listed
>>84331262what is your problem with it? you will only say yes to a person you subjectively find attarctive too.stop acting like you're not human
>>84331262So?If you require a girl to be attractive, not a gun, not a cheater....it's fine in my opinion. I'd require all those things and require them to like pets or animals, or I'll be celibate.Being celibate is fine too. I used to dread being celibate for life but now it seems like a peaceful option instead of struggling to interact with women I don't get along and etc..
>muh fur babiesstop conflating pets with animals peta is 100% right, pet ownership and its consequences are disastrous for animal welfarelook at your own post, it screams "me me me" YOU like petsYOU like the shit you do to themyou NEVER think about what is ACTUALLY good for the animalyou dont even pick animals that are MEANT for domestication like dogs, no, you have to pick exotic animals that SHOULD ONLY LIVE IN THE WILD
>>84331298I may be selfish but, the reason I don't like people who don't like animals or pets is soimething I posted already. Ill copy and paste it>Disliking something weaker than them, disliking something helpless, disliking caring for something when you get no money or status, disliking something innocent.>It reminds me of psychopathic businessman type behavior for some reason.>It just doesn't set well with me in my gut if someone doesn't like animals. I don't think it's wise to trust people who don't like pets or animals because the reasons for their dislike are probably rancid when described in english, like the reasons a psychopathic business man or politician (even if they dont kill others) does what he does.If a person is against owning pets because they think the animal is happier in the wild genuinly that isn't someone I think has an evil soul or mind. I could be wrong to why people don't like animals or pets but I'd be willing to bet money that i's the above green text with many
>>84331324>Disliking something weaker than them, disliking something helpless, disliking caring for something when you get no money or status, disliking something innocent.on this point is it alright if i hate animals stronger than me? like i love pets like dogs and cats but i have an insane irrational hatred of animals that can basically one shot me like i genuinely hate elephants and hippos for some reason and i wish they went extinct but on the same hand i love dogs alot and would love to own one when i move out
>>84331336also this is only applicable to animals that can kill me in one shot and not just kill me like i dont care about a wolf or a cheetah even tho they could prob kill me but i would have atleast a 10% chance of killing them with like a sword or somethingbut against an elephant i would have a 0% chance even with a normal glock
>>84331324i LOVE animals so i HATE petsall YOU are doing is justifying your own selfish behaviouryou admit it yourself when you say crap like>my lizard closes his eyes as he sits on my lap when i pet his head even. I think he enjoys it...YOU think he enjoys itmeanwhile petting is NOT natural behaviour for lizardsthe poor cunt is probably scared SHIT TO DEATH and shut down just because it knows its completely at your mercy
>>84331363>the poor cunt is probably scared SHIT TO DEATH and shut down just because it knows its completely at your mercyI don't agree with people who have your line of thinking after interacting with animals. I've had lizards come up to me to interact in the wild when homeless because I sat in the same spot over and over, they crawled on me with no fear. I believe they came over out of curiosity eventually because they got used to my presence.My pet lizards exhibit the exact same behavior as wild lizards. It's called fucking sprinting away when in fear. Or aggressive body posture. They let you know.While it seems possible an animal COULD shut down and go catatonic in fear, I do not believe this is the case.I don't need to prove it in a lab to believe it.My lizard is not shutting down in fucking fear. He closes his eyes when i pet his head and is relaxing. He seems to enjoy it. There are times he doesn't want his head petted, he squirms and moves fast so I stop. He is not catatonic in fear.Pretty sure I spent enough time with them to read their body language.From interacting with animals I will say, perhaps the lizard "tolerates" the interaction at best is true. However, I leave them alone and feed them nice meals (Ive cooked stuff for my lizard and give him various fruits he likes and will hardboil eggs for him since he's omnivorous)I give my gecko varied fruits she likes and will try different fruits and insects until she gets what she likes most. My gecko also moves her neck/head into my finger when i pet and gently massage her neck. She lets me pet her when shes sitting on her branch too.WHEN SHES SCARED SHE SQUIRMS AND RUNS AWAY OR SHITS. I think you're confusing "tolerating" for "catatonic in fear"I think reptiles, from interacting with them get curious to experience human interaction or tolerate it. I think they enjoy some kinds of breif touch too, not prolonged touch
>>84331407yeah no shit, youre projecting human emotions and behaviours onto something that isnt humanthat gets you absolutely mental crap like>aww the pibble is smiling
>>84331430So you don't interact with animals personally and you think you know they're in fear because of why? Because theyre not outside? You're assuming "utter terror that causes them to freeze up" based on?Lizards break into my shed to live, which is shittier than a terrarium cooler and has no light or water. Wild ones choose this over being outside around birds. I've also had baby lizards break into my house to live.The animal having a natural smile on their face vs reading their body posture language is different. I don't judge if my lizard is happy because it has a smile on his or her face. They do look like they have a smile but thats their natural face.I judge the lizard fear level off body language and vocalizations. The lizards also eat food from my hand or will eat when i'm holding them. They don't do that when overly scared I think.They get all the food they want, minimal and eventually if any fear due to no predators, and the perfect temperature and humidity.I'm certain birds and reptiles get curious. The wild ones do it too. They also like being fed.My pets also get no danger in the wild, they probably experience constant fear from predators in the wild because of real danger of beating eaten as prey.My cat also comes up to me on his own and snuggles his head into my neck and puurs. Clearly a stress reaction.
>>84331430>>84331481Also, i've had two female geckos that refused handling. They ran away with such speed every time I realized they didn't like it at all.I didn't handle them, at most I fed them with tongs and viewed them.I may be slightly selfish at times but I give them a good life and feed them well.slightly selfish is different than >i dont like taking care of things weaker than me or i hate things weaker than me or i hate innocent things or i get nothing financially out of this or i get no status out of this or this costs me money so i hate itim fine with being slightly selfish. im not fine with the money status hating weak things
>>84331481EXACTLY, i dont interact with animals i just sit there and WATCH and OBVIOUSLY you have to get pissy when i press you on your selfish bullshitbecause YOU pretend to care about animals, but really only care about YOURSELF
>>84331537Exactly you don't interact with animals, you watch so you don't know. I don't think you hate them or dislike them, but you're not what I was refering to in the OP.Animals are in some fear aggression and anxiety interacting with each other. And they kill each other to eat or for mates or etc..You are incorrect about only caring about myself, I am selfish slightly but I care about them toosee>>84331534You are the equivalent of an incel (im an incel but ive tried with some women online and realized i just dont connect with females so i now leave them alone is one of the reasons i avoid them) who hates blacks and women and browns because studies said something despite never going out in the real world or interacting with them online either. I'm not sure the right word to describe your behavior.Humans also tolerate each other, I tolerate interaction with others in public despite having fear and anxiety yet still enjoy some of the interaction.I don't handle reptiles that are terrified.When my big lizard anxiously moves around his cage and scratches on the glass I realize he's uncomfortable in his enclosure, not is scratching to get let out and I take him out of his enclosure and let him roam around my house. He instantly stops the anxious body language and starts flcking his tongue out in curiosity of his new surroundings.You made a mild point about selfishness but are exaggerating it and inncorrect about everything else I believe.I've watched wild animals too, birds and reptiles and rabbits and they eventually got used to my presence and showed them selves more or even came close to me. Took years. I've had exotic birds come within 1 foot of me to look and see what I was doing in my camp. No food offered. Curiosity id guess.I may guess their state of mind wrong but do you really think you can't guess/deduce any animal emotion? I am curious are you one of those people who refuses to believe anything not proved in a lab by scientists?
>>84330748I love animals but keeping them in tiny little enclosures for your own entertainment is cruel
>>84330748I get this is bait for engagement but girls not liking animals is very rare. Like you sooner find girls that don't like shoes and/or makeup before you encounter one that doesn't like animals.
>>84332122The reptile and birds in captivity don't face predators and violently get eaten alive. If you give them a big enclosure that looks natural and lots of types of food they like I think they can be happy in captivity.They also don't have kids or rednecks trying to kill them in captivity and feel less hunger and less thirst.I don't think giving them a life of no danger is cruel, if you give them a nice enclosure. Keeping them in one with no room to move around may make them bored or anxious.
>>84330748not a girl but I find it infinitely more rewarding to imagine taking care of a human than an animal that has no ability to understand me or live for longer than 15 years
>>84330748True. I wish I found girl into being mounted by dog or at least be into animal dildos so I could wife her up.
>>84332720Why do you want your dog to cuck you?
>>84330748i wouldnt say i hate animals, but i have a preference for cats. dogs not only are super smelly but theyre also needy and for some reason they remind me of men
>>84333664Do you like any other animals than cats?
Would happily take an animal hater over a "my cat is my daughter" type of girl
>>84334147What is wrong with girls loving something platonically?
>>84331298>ACTUALLY good for the animal>SHOULD ONLY LIVE IN THE WILDPick one. The natural world is unbelievably cruel and unforgiving. PETA members would try to kill themselves if they had to live the "natural life" of any species including our own.Also pets like dogs are entirely domesticated. 15,000 years of co-evolution have resulted in animals that are specifically adapted to live alongside humans and cannot survive without humans.PETA is retarded. They don't understand biology, conservation, and it's a fundraising organization that exists only to grift money from retarded rich people who can't see past their own feelings. Wow so compassionate.Now if you wanted to have a conversation about limiting and optimizing agricultural land use, ending the carbon credit scam, and cracking down on backyard breeders that would do real good for animals worldwide.
>>84330748Hey OP you reminded me of a girl I used to know.>supposed devoted hardcore animal lover and welfare advocate >volunteered at animal shelters all the time>once lost her shit at me for buying a fucking pet rat from a pet store because pet stores are evil and unethical>...>mfw less than 6 months later she was dating someone who deliberately fed live rats to snakes on top of being a literal animal hoarder who would put dozens of reptiles and spiders in tiny plastic tubs and kept a rabbit in a hamster cage among other things
>>84330748this is a nice post for me specifically. my only redeeming quality is volunteering at an animal shelter
>>84335487What kind of animals do you like?
>>84331262>implying men are the lookism genderThis is a settled debate, foid.
>>84335402this IS our natural life, moron
>>84330748I hate mean cats. I hate noisy dogs. I hate shitbulls. Creepy crawly shit can die in a black hole. Sharks are overrated; people who express their love for sharks over the internet are performative. Every other animal is nice though. Specially pdawgs, wish I could raise some but my state doesn't allow it.
>>84330748>i'm a retarded wasteful golem who can only associate with other retarded wasteful golems
>>84330748Animals are part of human folklore everywhere, we've always liked them. I think liking animals is a core part of the human experience
>>84336123There's nothing wrong with liking looks. I don't know if i'd accept an ugly girl who I got along with well.
>>84333582I don't see it as cucking. Dog is not a human, it can't fully replace human. There will be no unwanted kids from it or other criminal-in-the-making niglets. To me being jealous of dog is like being jealous of dildo: it doesn't make sense.I just like women mating with beasts and monsters. When I think what could make woman do it, I can see several reasons, all attractive to me. Besides I find people claiming to love their pets and then cutting their balls etc, essentially killing of their bloodline when bloodline is most important thing in the nature, whole reason of life, massive hypocrites. Instead of mutilating your pet, find it some bitch so he could get his dick wet and you could have puppy of dog you supposedly like so much, and if that's too much for you then at least let it tap some human pussy. Or just admit your pet is just accessory for you and you "care" about it only so far as it allows you to feel better about yourself.
