I’m kind of a loser. I’m not homeless or a fentanyl-addled street leaner, but I don’t own my own house, and I have no career. At least in a conventional sense, I would say I’m “unsuccessful”. Anecdotal premable out of the way, I have a lady friend (real casanova hours, I know) who I bumped into at the book store. She was cool, and I could tolerate being around her for more than 5 minutes, so she passed the shit test most women fail for me. She’s not super attractive, but she stimulates me in an intellectual fashion that few women can. Bitch can even get me to laugh (exceedingly rare trait I’ve found). Suffice to say, she gained a coveted “friend” role in my mental rolodex. Anyway, I sometimes stop by her place to help out with her garden because she grows so much shit and makes me salads and pickles and other green eats like that. In a sense, I’m feeding myself with this charitable action, so it’s not like I’m simping. She lives with her dad, and he and I have spoken on more than one occasion. He started to question the nature of our relationship. >“So when are you two going to get married?” >I told him outright.>”My guy, we aren’t even dating.”>He didn’t get it. >”You’re always stopping by, and you get along with (lady) so well, why don’t you ask her out?”>I gave him my preamble about not being (un)successful. >”I’d like for your daughter to have a decent guy to take care of her. I’m kind of a loser.”>Her dad starts glazing me, “You’re polite!”, “You’re handsome!”, and “(lady) always talks about how great you are!”>I rebut him,”I can barely take care of myself, there’s no way I could take care of (lady). She’s a good friend, and I care about her, but I just can’t take on that kind of responsibility.”>I got the usual boomerisms “Life isn’t about money!” and “You can make it work if you really love each other”.
>>84345024I felt bad. In another era, I think those platitudes might have held some weight. In modern times, they sounded like the rantings of some juvenile romance fetishist. For further context. I’m late 30’s, and she’s mid-30s. I didn’t want to go full doomer in front of her dad, but in my mind, I was like>”Honestly, if we were going to start a family, we should have met a decade ago and already have popped out 2 or 3 kids. At this point, that ship has sailed.”To try and put him at ease, I told him, >“I do care about her a great deal, and she’s a good friend, so if she ever needs help, I’ll be around for her.” Her dad is pushing mid-80s, so he doesn’t have long left. I think he’s worried about who will take care of his daughter after he’s gone. Honestly, I wouldn’t be able to. Again, I can barely take care of myself, and my own financial future is in question at the moment. I figure it’s probably best if he doesn’t know how fucked (lady) and me both are. My advice to parents of kids who are getting close to the “procreational” age is to get them to socialize. You don’t need to do arranged marriages or matchmaking meetups. Just make sure your kids are engaged in the local community. Invest in your community. Tell your children, “I’ll help you put a down payment on a house if you find someone,” or “I have a savings account that you can access once you pop out a kid”. Give them an incentive. Give them a reason to give a fuck. Indulge in a little nepotism (not too much, but a little bit). We’re going to lose a whole generation to apathy, fent, and covid vaccines. Someone needs to pick up the pieces.
>>84345025The alleged lady.
>>84345024What do you want advice about, exactly?
>>84345024When her father dies, she'll inherit a house with a large garden and no mortgage. I assume she works too. So she doesn't need any financial support from you. And loads of people have kids in their 30s; if your arithmetic is correct, her father must have been 50 when she was born, and she turned out just fine, didn't she? If you don't find her attractive, fine. But otherwise you're a fool not to ask her out. (You can bet she's interested and has told her father that).
>>84345024>weKill yourself clankerGlobohomo
>psyops in 2026still pissing in an ocean of piss, retardski
Boomers do think life is about money tho. Thats all they care about. If anything you’re the boomer incel. You don’t have to start a family with her, just having someone to bond with will stick it to them.
>>84345024If her garden is good enough to make a salad, marry her and she will enable you to unleash your potential.
>>84345030>still pissing in an ocean of piss, retardskiSetting aside that we're not on the internet, this has been proven incorrect since at least 2010/11 when the initial Stormfront raids started. This is known by those of us who are the enlightened and superior oldfags amongst us
>>84345024The dad is rightYou should marry your best friendMost couples are miserable They marry for material reasons and don't truly know each otherThis is all assuming you are both of the same race. If you aren't I'm suspicious of the father's intentions
>>84345026> Child bearing hips> Enjoy each other's companyLiterally all you need in life. If you properly cherish her and she keeps herself thin then those hips will keep you happy into old age. Have a baby. You aren't getting younger. The best sex you'll ever have is either in the past or about to end. Make this girl cum and make it your project to make her feel safe and loved and accepted forever. You've accomplished nothing but neither has a career man at your age. Imagine being 80 and dying and knowing that you made one woman and your children feel deeply loved in spite of everything miserable in life. That is an accomplishment worth fighting for. Now imagine the opposite: growing old and childless and dying knowing you could have been that man and chose to pass on the opportunity. Think about it!
>>84345024>>84345025If anything, I think youre decently good at writing
>>84345258>>84345308I don't want to sound like a little bitch, but I don't want to make it awkward between us. If nothing else, I don't want to lose access to that garden of hers. Because of how she acts and the shit that she's into, I let my guard down around her. She knows the REAL me, not the facade I share with most normies and non-neurodivergent types. If I were to propose anything, not even marriage, just being boyfriend and girlfriend, I'd be afraid of what she'd think of me. She probably think->"Are you fucking with me?"She's like an ornate glass menagerie, precariously balanced in such a way that I fear if I were to push things, she'd go to pieces on me. Being a "good friend" feels a lot safer to me than trying to change our more platonic friendship. The fucked up thing is, I've banged hotter girls when I was younger, and I've talked about my sexual escapades with her. That's something I'd NEVER do around other women, but again, she's not like other women. I never sorted her into that partner role in my head, and that guard that I'd normally have up when talking with women isn't there. With the way she behaves and talks, she's mentally disarmed me. If I were to offer a relationship, she could say things that would destroy me. She could cut me down with my own words. I'd only have myself to blame for how open I am with her. She's not mean-spirited, but she is very honest, to a fault, not unlike myself in certain respects. The same lines I'd use on other women would not work on her. Funny though, I have no such reservations when it comes to other women, yet the (lady) leaves me apprehensive when I consider romance with her. I do treasure her. I suppose I always will. If I were to lose a friend while trying to gain a lover, and be left with neither, the toll on my heart would be heavy. >>84345414 I'm alright, I guess. I prefer reading, though.
>>84345024An unironic gerontocide would save trillions
>>84346719>, I let my guard down around her. She knows the REAL me, not the facade I share with most normies and non-neurodivergent types. IDUDE WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR??? That's exactly what you need to be happy in old age man>If I were to offer a relationship, she could say things that would destroy me. She could cut me down with my own words. I'd only have myself to blame for how open I am with her. She's not mean-spirited, but she is very honest, to a fault, not unlike myself in certain respects.You are simultaneously very self-aware but I think you obviously know you need to do some work here. She's simply the perfect person to do it with. The question is if you can be kind and gentle if she confronts you. Seems like the reason you're single is thinking like this. Seems like he might have found the one. This is like a romance movie. Seriously look at this and think hardBeing the hottest doesn't matter at all. If you she's hot enough then she's hot enough. No woman is going to be hot after 40. Anyways. Lock it down
>>84347702I could be rejected by 100 thots in the most caustic manner and not bat an eye. In that regard, I have a hardened heart courtesy of a life on this planet. If (lady) were to tell me she didn't want to hang out anymore because I confessed feelings to her and betrayed that platonic relationship we share? Death would be a preferable outcome. She's seen my weakness, not because she pried but because I volunteered the information. I trusted her with it because in my mind, I did not view her through that lens. I didn't mind revealing myself to her because I felt safe in her company. When I tell her my sordid stories and make crude jokes, she doesn't get offended; she returns the sentiment with her own stories, and I feel at ease being myself.Until her father pushed the issue, I actually thought she might be lesbian with how comfortably she confided in me. That's how far outside the sphere of romantic possibilities I placed her. To propose anything, forget marriage, but something as simple as a modest romance - it would be such a monumental heel turn, she'd think I was trying to play a trick on her or setting up some joke. Cultured wordsmith that I am, and cavalier fellow as I can be, I can't even begin to order words into any sentence that would win her heart. At least none that come to mind.
>>84348342Also, I'd really like it if she had a bigger chest. Even a modest B cup. She's practically flat as a board. Worse yet, I'd joked as much about this characteristic of hers (again, I didn't view her as a romantic option when I did). She didn't get offended, though; she poked fun back at me. I've poked fun at her appearance on several occasions, not to be mean-spirited, but because that's the verbal jousting we enjoy. If I were to come around to her now, the venom she could employ - I would be dead before I hit the ground. She knows I'm a louse, a devil, and a trickster, as I've told her as much. She could wield the truth against me so that I would be undone by her tongue (and not in a way I'd favor).With such trepidation, I'd sooner French kiss a rattlesnake than play at her heart.
>>84345024>>84345025I thought you were a youngster until you said how old her dad was. He's definitely trying to get her married to someone while she can still have kids. She probably doesn't want them though if she doesn't already have them.
>>84348481>She probably doesn't want them though if she doesn't already have them.She hasn't indicated as much, and the subject has never been broached. Even if she did, I can't imagine her settling for me. After the things I'd said and done around her, there's no way she could consider me in that role. Perhaps I could play it off as a joke if she did reject me. At the same time, she knows my sincere voice. I doubt she'd believe I was merely playing with such a suggestion. It would be a joke in poor taste if I were to tease such a thing and try to play it off as such after the fact. I would have no choice but to commit to such a confession if I were to give it. But after confessing everything else I have up until now, I don't feel I can muster the courage for such a confession. That's if my heart were truly in it. As venomous as her retort may be were I to bare my heart, I'm far more cruel to myself. I don't need her flagellation on top of my own.
>>84348403>>84348342I really wish I could change your mind but I don't have the energy. It's obvious you understand you are neurotic and wrong, but you keep arguing the same point. I feel bad for her. I think you are failing her. If you like her so much, risk your heart. If you actually care, ask so she can stop wasting her time on it. Her dad didn't bring it up for no reason. She is in love
>>84348342>, I can't even begin to order words into any sentence that would win her heart. At least none that come to mind.Literally write that. One love letter in the quality of the posts you've made would win any intelligent woman for life. Just keep the letters coming if you think you are too afraid to express it properly in person.. It works very well.
>>84349469I would much prefer if she initiated such an exchange. I know it's cowardly, but in my life, women always came to me. I never really had to pursue a woman; they effectively fell into my lap. Galavanting around with my devil-may-care attitude, I had no fear because I masked it with an air of indifference. The confidence that I exuded was a trait I had no right to claim. I enjoyed playing the part, though, because it was fun. The women I entertained, vapid as they were, were a validation for me. >I'm just that cool.>I need only show up, and I'll go home with a prize. >What was an occasional failure among a string of victories? Even if I knew it was a lie, I didn't care and indulged it. It was all part of the fantasy. I was the great pretender. I could wax poetic into some harlot's ear and have her sucking my dick by the end of the month. The (lady) knows of all of this; she knows my game. I didn't even try to hide it from her. That's what my unchecked confidence has granted me. >"What fools those women were, falling for someone like you," says the (lady)And I would agree with her and laugh. She wouldn't be my 1st or my 2nd or anywhere close to that. Fatuous as it might sound, I wish I could give her my virginity. I wish I hadn't been so flippant with women in my youth. At the same time, that charisma of mine is what she craves, I think. After the conga line of cunts I've had, a real woman like (lady) is distinct. I wish I'd met her sooner in my life. In essence, if I were to proposition her in any fashion, it would be like suggesting she, too, was a fool. Conversely, she cannot come onto me, lest she follow in the foolish footsteps of ladies who came before her. So I accepted it, settling on her being a good friend. I could live with that if it meant not hurting her. I feel I have damned myself.
youre gonna do whatever you do so i feel this is wasted advicebut in a hateful way i hope it haunts you anywayspeople predicating relationships on imaginary checkpoints of success will end up alone for no reason at allmost people in relationships are just grinding the checkpoints to get there together. they didnt sort out all their shit and then meet.also you sound like a convoluted pseud the more i read. im 35 with 3 kids and a big house and im fucking retarded. you must genuinely be stupider than me to not succeed ergo my advice is flawless and above reproach. do not seek to argue it. mating press her. now.
>>84345024Did fuckin tony soprano write this? Talk normal.
>>84349481Like her poor eyes need to skim my flowery prose. I've teased her before, feeding her lines I've fed other women for her amusement. (lady)'s not stupid. She knows what kind of man I am. I never tried to hide it from her. When we first met, I bullied her; she had to get a stepstool to reach a book that was high on a shelf. >"Didn't know they made em' as short as you.">"I'll have to watch my step, or you'll end up underfoot.">"With glasses like those, I think you've read enough books."Little verbal jabs like that. She laughed so hard she almost fell off the stepstool. >"Careful, that's a big fall for someone your size."She shot back at me, poking fun at my lanky figure, my widow's peak, and my poor fashion sense. At the same time, she was so meek and innocent. She was like a target I couldn't resist. Not to seduce, but merely there for me to sharpen my rhetorical wit. Again, at the time, I didn't consider her a romantic option. She was an oddity waddling around the bookstore for me to play with.At present, it's a lot more comfortable for me to remain the friendly jester in her life than play at being her boyfriend. >>84349830>Mating press herWere it so easy. Rest assured, the hell I find myself in is one of my own creation. >>84349858>talk normalIf I talked normally, I wouldn't be where I am now. For better or worse. Too late to stop now.
>>84349758I think you are actually mentally ill at this point. I agree, just be her friend. Step aside when a functional human being comes along
>>84349984That wouldn't be the worst outcome if she could find someone decent.
>>84345024Ask her out, desu.I don't see why you shouldn't. As another anon said, she can still have a kid and she will inherit the house from pops. So you are good to go.
Buy gold and silver and have kids
You are one of the meekest men I have ever read type on 4chan. Navel gazing coward. You are gonna blink and be elderly and I'm glad for that.
>>84345024wow, someone's talking to you like you're a human being?
I don't see what changed. Unless you're wildly conservative and optimistic, life has always been pretty much impossible to swing. Simplest maths proves this to be true. You're merely being treated like a non-special person now.
>>84345024you fucking piece of shit scumbag
>>84351453This. It's a new level of wanting to punch someone through a screen
>>84351190I can do it. I just hope that if she says no, we can still be friends. She's going to bully me regardless of the outcome.I don't want to lose access to that garden of hers. Her homemade pickles are really top-notch. She mixes in spices and shit. They make for good snacks, despite being rather dill.
>>84345024dude, you enjoy each other's company. that is a great foundation. what the fuck are you going to do for the next 50 years existing by yourself? sometimes knowing you're coming back to A HOUSEHOLD with consistent people is value in itself. someone to touch, laugh with, and butt heads with is necessary. all this moralising we're doing is fucking us up, and we are almost going to miss the ship completely, the window is closing. dont measure yourself by what the internet tells you is "high value".unironically W dad>>84348481amazingly, a lot of women wont directly go after something they want. i don't get it, but it does seem to occur quite often
>>84345024>>84352016also i just want to say, you made the OP saying the boomer lacks perpspective/understanding, but I think this is you, actually. you have awareness, but what's the point of that? it doesn't help you grow or move forward with life. just sitting there thinking about the same old worries.
>>84345024Stop living in fear, doubt, and anxiety
>>84345028Bold to assume a boomer hasn't taken out another mortgage, it's their favorite activity
Is there a point to thread?Like is this about boomers or your blog post about your whatever lifeFFS at least it isn't tranny shit, but fucking stupid
>>84345024you got the father's blessing bro... go claim your wife and life, these people obviously care for you in spite of whatever insecurities you beat yourself up overthe wise 80+ dad is right, you WILL figure it out and make it work 2 heads are better than 1, keenan AND kel, just go live happily ever after already gosh
>>84345024I member a boomer wondering why his daughters were in their twenties and never brought a boyfriend.>Is everyone in this town gay or something?He of course didn't know it; but these girls were not exactly nuns. To put it mildly.He didn't know that was a possibility; that women can be whores without having boyfriends.Anyways. Bleak.
