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There is no rational argument against incest. Every outcestfag is a slave to ideology.
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Exhibit B as you say
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>>84350611
I don't care what you retards do anymore.
Incest. Whatever degenerate shit. I hope this planet burns. Everyone on earth is retarded.
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>>84350659
Typical outcestnigger melty. No arguments or facts or rationality.
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>>84350665
Go fuck your sister dude I don't fucking care at ALL. fuck your aunt. Crash your car into a building I'm sick of arguing with trash humanity. Fuck the world. I hope it gets nuked. Fuck trying to give people advice fuck humanity. Let them destroy themselves.
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>>84350611
do you have big feet?
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>>84350611
There is some arguments to it, but it's just problematic. I know because i'm talking from experience, as i have these feelings for a family member myself, and i can't act up on them, nor do i want to.

The thing is that in the visual novel, they are both very damaged and clearly also want it. But in reality, it's usually the way it's with me. Where 1 person really wants it or thinks about it, and the other is fully oblivious to it. Another part is just being normal. I wish i could be normal, but i'm not. And i realize that my feelings for that person are very unhealthy, and if i was to reveal them, would be very damaging and would cause the other person lots of sadness and sorrow and worry, on top of all the other existing sorrow and worry i already caused that person. He is very normal and not insane like me, and that's why acting up on feelings like this would do nothing but hurt the person for no reason, and i would in his eyes be an even bigger mess than i already am.

Another thing is, power dynamic. I don't know about with normal people, but in my case the power dynamic issue would be... well an issue. As i said, i'm very much not a normal person, so if i was to reveal these feelings and push on them or insist on them, or just ask, the other person would be in a weird spot. Apart from being hurt and shocked that i even think about this or want something as insane as this, there would be the fear of "what will happen when i reject her?". And thus it could be an emotional blackmail situation, or just other very unhealthy variants. This is why i don't think it's ever a good idea to reveal such feelings or act up on them, especially if you are in a position where you can cause the other person monstrous hurt and sadness by doing so.
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>>84350611
I agree. I still don't want to fuck my sister though, that's gross. But you do you buddy, don't let moralizers and nannystate government proponents put their boot on your neck. Unless you're also into asphyxiation/humiliation/etc. in which case let them but also inform them you will derive sexual gratification from it.
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>>84350611
>There is no rational argument against incest.
ok
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>>84350611
Midgets should be sterilized but the same normalfags currently justifying women being Chad only whores with the eugenics argument shit their diapers if you dare to suggest eugenics in any other context
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>>84350611
Let's say everyone else was black except for you and your sister. Would you protect your race?
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There's been some talk in high level places questioning if it's been excessively socially demonized and I would lean on the side that it might have. People may think of shitholes of inbreds and think inbreeding must be bad, right? But if you breed two shithole dwellers together it obviously results in a shithole dweller, that's not compelling evidence. In those examples you have a bunch of people with negative traits repeatedly reinforcing those negative traits. But if we look at the animal breeding industry, their incest rates are rather high. It was also popular amongst royal families and it honestly might still be practiced in some rich families, we certainly know it's practiced in the Biden family for example.

I was bored enough to search through some papers about this stuff and using ai to make them more digestible. There are a few interesting points, first off our extreme lack of inbreeding in modern society combined with low natural selection is rapidly filling our genetics with landmines, we really need to get to genetic editing technology before we get to the point of genetic trash saturation where our chances of accidentally activating bad recessives gets worse than asian eyesight genetics.

Another important point is what the livestock industry refers to as inbreeding depression, it's what happens when a large amount of potentially negative recessives get activated all at once. If there was a high volume of inbreeding then these traits would be frequently expressed and genetics could effectively be cleaned of junk by having offspring that were critically negatively impacted simply not breed and flag the parents for being a possible carrier of pretty bad recessives.

So we're going to be outbreeding/junkmaxxing until every child is born to be balding, have organ defects, and have an endless creeping list of small negatives that will be deemed "fine" until we casually need glasses-like crutches/tools for every little thing that we used to be capable of.
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>>84351145
The holstein problem is a magnification problem, it's only possible with artificial insemination alloweing a bull to have millions of offspring.

Anyway this misses the intermediate ground argument where you close the population but don't breed immediate relatives

Did AI make that chart? I's wrong about the brace and glasses those aren't a product of inbreeding more a shit diet and living environment
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>>84351145
>>84351249
sorry I misread the glasses part.
I would argue outbreeding is directly causing dental irregularities because it's causing incompatibilities between the genes of the mouth and others.
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an inbred baby who gets fed meat and fruit is going to be healthier than one that isnt but gets fed a goyslop diet
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>>84350622
>JD Vance and his pajeeta beard
Lol good one
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>>84351261
I'm not versed enough to be able to comment on that, but I would not be surprised. And yes it's part of an ai summary of a larger volume of text, could have inaccuracies.

I suppose the next step is to determine where the sources of the demonization came from and if they're to be trusted as an honest mistake/overcorrection vs malinformation. We know who WOULD be responsible if it's malice and merely observing their population norms vs claims would reveal much, such as immigration policy double standards.
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>>84350873
>as i have these feelings for a family member myself
Awww got a crush on your little sister bro?
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>>84351331
No. I'm a foid not a bro, but no, i got a lot more than a crush on my Dad. And those are definitely very unhealthy feelings, and i shouldn't be having them, because all they can do is hurt him and our current relationship.
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>>84351371
I've seen scattered anecdotes about estranged daughters reuniting with their dads only to severely lust after them, is that the case?
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>>84350622
>>84350611
bro there's nobody oppressing you, you can fuck your sister all you want stop whining
you probably don't even have a sister, you just a weirdo with a fetish
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>>84351502
It's literally illegal you dumb nigger
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>>84351528
>muh you are a slave ideology if you are against incest something something
>BUT IT'S ILLEGAL I CAN'T DO IT!!!!!
you're just a dumb nigger
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>>84351538
>no one is oppressing you
The state, which has a monopoly on violence, will kidnap or kill me if I fuck my sister. You illiterate retard gorilla nigger.
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>>84350622
JD fucked a shit and the shit gave birth
holy shit
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>>84351541
No, someone would need to act as a witnes and either dogooder or blackmail you exploiting the monopoly on legal violence of the state.
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>>84351545
He literally looks like a demon so his kids will look the same.
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>>84351371
oh hi anonymouse. i wondered if i would see you again. you said i should look out for your tag but i didnt realise at the time you had one, i assumed it was anonymous i didnt read the mouse part.
i would love to have sex with a milf who reveals she wants to bang her son, then we can arrange it somehow
>>84351538
if something is illegal then the state can lock you up for doing it. you fucking idiot
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>>84351599
I thought she wasn't interested in her dad like that?
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>>84351388
No, my case is a lot more unique i think.
Basically speaking, i fucked up my Dad's life.

I'm disability level mentally ill, i have very strong neurotic SPD. Basically i can't handle hearing peoples voices, or having them around, and the worst trigger is touching. Sends me into violent neurotic spasms and seizures, just very bad. My psychiatrist told me a good metaphore for this when i was diagnosed to explain the condition to me, basically imagine your mind as a big theater. In it you have seats, some for family, friends, coworkers, random people, etc. This is your social battery in a way. For me, i have only 1 single seat in my head. And that seat is permanently occupied by my Dad. Very usual that people like me latch onto a family member, parent or sibling or etc, if you had this from birth.

So basically i couldn't love my Mom, or develop any kind of relationship with her, she is a stranger to me. Her voice and her touch trigger my condition as do any other people, and so my childhood was basically running away from her, or screaming if she got too close. Wouldn't get in car with her, nothing. By age 10 she basically gave up, by age 12 she left Dad and ran off because she wanted to experience life while she still had youth left. Dad was destroyed as fuck by this, took years for him to stop randomly breaking down about it.

Anyway after they divorced, Mom told me she wouldn't take care of me if i tried to get her to have custody or something. Dad got the place we have now and we moved here, and he takes care of me and i basically just neet in my room, because i'm on disability once i was finally diagnosed. He is the only person i can be around. He is the only person whose voice is soothing, and whos touch feels good to me. And he sacrificed so much from his life to provide me with a nice and comfortable life being locked in my room 99% of the time. And it has been some years now that i realized i loved him and would want to be his wife.
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>>84351599
Hi yeah, it's me. Uhh not sure what the milf part has to do with this, since i'm not one, nor do i have a son...
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>>84351541
>muh monopoly state violence something
you're just a pussy loser typing shit on r9k, do us a favor and neck yourself
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>>84351606
Oh it is you, did you try out the quick cloth wash idea instead of a bath or shower?
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>>84351613
You type like a low class niggermonkey with no father.
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>>84351618
>the same person who said nigger in every reply
comedic, go neck yourself
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>>84351606
What does SPD stand for?
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>>84351606
That's a tough one. Maybe he'd be down, especially if the situation effectively blocks him from pursuing other women. Tough thing to breach in any case for sure. Might be down if I were him in that specific case, especially if you were both effectively blocked from alternatives.

This is also a bit random but consider trying high dose folinic acid supplementation (or folate if you can't find that one), I've been reading a lot lately about the negative brain impact of severe folate deficiency and with the high rate of (trash synthetic) folic acid (not to be confused with the first one) effectively serving as a common roadblock to proper absorption it leads to issues that are either similar or sidegrades to yours. If you try also cut out any form of folic acid consumption (it's in any grains that say "fortified" on the label and potentially in low quality B complex vitamin supplements)
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>>84351616
I did actually, just once so far, but i did, after i had a nightmare and woke up sweated through. Summer is slowly creeping up and the temperatures here are being stupid. One day it's sunny hot and the other it's raining cold again, feels nice. Also baths are not a problem, i love baths. Problem is i can't do those, because we don't have a bathtub like we did in the old house before Mom and Dad divorced. If i could bathe everyday i wouldn't have no problem with this.

>>84351656
Schizoid, with the neurotic being the nature of triggered response, in my case uncontrollable anger outbursts or violent seizures. As said, i have a very strong variant. It's usually not this strong for most people. Being on disability from schizoism is a lot lees common than from something like heavy BPD.
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>>84351606
What's the furthest you've actually gone? Jilling off thinking og him?
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>>84351691
I mean i take brain fixers that i got from my psychiatrist. Also have to go for checkups regularly to keep the disability status and disability checks, which are not a lot but it helps. Still human touch is an almost instant trigger. Last one was couple weeks ago, i was at a grocery store, clerk knows me actually, but i guess he spaced out, and he wished me a nice day and touched my hand when giving me my change. Went screaming to the ground almost instantly. Dad had to leave work to come get me. As i said, i'm... i'm a huge fucking burden to him.
>blocked from partners
For me, obviously. I'm actually not a virgin, i was raped when i was 13, very stupid story about how that happened, i don't think you want to hear that. But what i can say is that the sex, while unmedicated, was the worst torture i ever felt. Like my brain was frying me from the inside, that was CIA waterboarding level torment. So yeah, other than him, i have no chance of dating or friendships or anything.

As for him, there was one woman over some time after Mom left us. I don't think he told her about me, good move probably. Anyway she woke up before him in the morning, and went "exploring" the house for some reason. Went into my room, i woke up in shock, and for some reason her reflex was to grab my arms and say that everything is okay and that i don't need to be scared. Naturally touch triggered a seizure, and i started to seize and scream, which made Dad come... yeah never saw her again. Or any woman since then. He begged Mom to come back on the phone many times over the years but stopped that too.

>>84351701
Nothing direct. Yeah masturbating while thinking about him, and sneaking into his bed a couple times while he was sleeping. Told him i had horrible nightmares and was scared to sleep alone again in the morning. Sometimes this was a lie, sometimes truth, my meds can give me absolute horror fuel nightmares at random.
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>>84351606
your dad sounds like a great person, so do you, but your mom sounds evil. She deserves misery. Honestly femanon I would be happy to have a daugher to cares about me as much as you do with your dad. It would be cool if I had a sister a few years younger than me who latched onto me like you did your dad (but ofc cus everything in my life is bittersweet and cursed, I would probably end up with a sister I disliked, similar to the one I have now).
>>84351611
the milf part does not have much to do with it, just me being horny. If you had a son, somehow, and he latched onto you the same way you did with your dad, and then you read his journal and discovered he desired you the same way you desire your dad, how would you react and take things forward from there?
>>84351718
when you snuck into his bed, did you try and touch or press into his genitals? I think you should do this again, and position yourself so you are the little spoon. In the night you can position your bottom so it is touching his penis. I don't think he will be alarmed. People naturally move around to be closer to each other in sleep.
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FFS why cant you ever find the relevant pic when you need it.

Anyway:
>There is no rational argument against incest.
3 mental-mud-retards on the floor with cousine parents in the back.jpg.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV6YyX3zL8c
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>>84351815
>Dad is great
He is, you know disability checks aren't much. The only reason why i can live comfortably and stuff is because he still takes care of me and let's me live with him and only takes like 300 euro of rent, which includes stuff he cooks, which i wish i could eat more regularly, because i'm grateful for it.
>Mom is evil
I don't know. As i said, i feel nothing towards her. She is a stranger except i know her name. But that's because i'm unnable to form these relationship, on behalf of my mental illness.
>Son
I have absolutely no idea. You gotta realize, a ton of social things are alien to me. I have no idea what friendships feel like, or having a boyfriend, or a lot of other things. Even my fantasies about being Dad's new wife, i don't know how a marriage actually works, so they are just what i wish it was probably. But i can't imagine this. If i was normal, my life and my perception of reality would likely be much different.

This is also a reason why i should never have kids even if i somehow could. If i had a child, that child would most likely not be excluded from my condition. Which means i couldn't love it, touch it, be motherly to it, you get the jist. Child abuse olympics essentially. I'm not made to be a mom.

>Did you touch him?
No. As i said, i myself was raped when i was 13. I know sexual assault is horrible. Lucky for me i'm not actually traumatized from it because the worst part was the seizure not the act itself. But i would never want to do that to my Dad. That's the thing, i don't want to be creepy or something on him. I love him, and doing some rapey stuff like fondling him or something while he sleeps... my Dad is very normal, and the last thing i want him to do is think his daughter is even more insane than she is by telling him i have these feelings for him, or touch him without his consent or something. In his bed i just cuddle up to him and yes also spoon up. It's hard to not be small spoon since he is a lot bigger than me.
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>>84351982
i understand that. do you ever feel his penis pressing or lightly touching your bottom or back, not on purpose, just naturally? I hope you and your dad somehow blossom your relationship into something more intimate, and sexual, where you can both feel safe exploring each others bodies and feel safe and warm and intimate with each other in that way, as well as you being his 'wife' without it beinf creepy and what not
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>>84352053
>do you feel it?
I mean sure, somewhat yeah. But again i'm not trying to intentionally set up some kind of a situation, i just like being in bed with him, but i don't do it too often, because i don't want it to seem weird. The only other "way out there" thing i did was, when i was a bit younger, i once pretended to sleep walk out of my room naked while he was watching hockey on the couch. I do very rarely sleep walk a bit, a side effect of the meds, it's more of like a foggy state where i can't tell that i'm awake for a while. I don't really know why, i just wanted him to see me naked for some reason, which was actually very stupid, because he has seen me naked plenty of times due to me having some problems like fainting in the shower or something, and him having to pick me up, dry me off and carry me to bed.

But otherwise when i cuddle up to him in his bed like this, i don't try to make it sexual, it's more like i enjoy the romancey feeling of it. Again, my Dad is very normal, i doubt he ever even thought about me this way. And i don't want to hurt him by telling him something like this. There are hurtful things that he doesn't need to know. Like if he knew that i was raped when i was 13, he would probably just think this is some coping mechanism from that, and that would be even worse.

The only way i ever see this actually happening is if he was the one to innitiate anything. I know from my side these feelings are super unhealthy, and my mental illness is likely at play here. I don't want to force anything on him, even if i confessed in an orderly manner, it's still a lot to unload on him, and the power dynamic makes it a very hurtful thing for him, because i'm a big mess.
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>>84351085
>Prison for opposite-sex couples; legal for same sex couples
You don't hate modern germans enough.
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>>84352336
Yeah its fucked up and afik its not been that long since fag incest was oked by the Krauts.
(Still cousine marriage for muds is ok and so is child marriage if done outside the german borders.)
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>>84351982
Did you happen to browse the previous /mcg/ incest general? Some nona explained how she raped her dad while he was on pain meds a decade ago.
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>>84352336
it makes sense tho. The problem with incest is the increased chance of disabled offspring, and same-sex couples can't have offspring
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>>84353276
I was summoned to that thread once by a redirect when someone thought i would be "one of the gang" when i talked about this previously. Didn't really stay around or browse that particular thread anymore. It's not for me. Those people heavily fetishize this, and some of the things they were saying were pretty weird, and that's for MY standards, so pretty far out.

The thing is for me, it's not a fetish or something. I don't goon my brain out to the fact that he is my Dad. I suppose those who have the option to go for someone else can fetishize the choice. For me it just feels shit. I still have all the needs, wanting for companionship, friendship, love, intimacy, sex. Everything. I just can't build those relationship. Everyone makes me condition flare up. Everyone in the world except for my Dad. The only human touch that i have ever felt that was pleasant and not like having acid spilled on me, is my Dad's. The only soothing voice that doesn't make my ears ring i ever heard, Dad. And likely the only man ever i could ever be with and have it feel good, also Dad. Basically my partner choices are loneliness (current), or my Dad.

It's an insanely shit feeling to be in love with him you know? Even siblings in a way would be lees frowned upon. But him? It's basically the most frowned upon thing imaginable. Let's ignore the strain and pain it would put between us, if anyone was to find out from the outside, they would just think he is a rapist forcing himself on his daughter. Between us, the same. I have always been a lot to handle, i have made his life difficult, i have costed him his marriage and a ton of effort. And now, after all that he sacrificed for me, i'm supposed to hurt him even more by telling him that i'm hopelessly in love with him and very attracted to him. Tell him that i'm even more insane than he already thinks. Do you know how much that would hurt him? Just the thought alone that he spent all that effort, and this is what he gets in return?
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>>84354036
>and same-sex couples can't have offspring
You transphobic nazi bigot faschist.
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>>84354148
>It's an insanely shit feeling to be in love with him you know?
yeah i know.
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Wondering who got

>>>84355555
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>>84354725
Well as i said, the only way anything would ever happen between us is if he initiates it. If i decide to make any move or whatever, it will be very hurtful for him, it will just cause problems, and it will be a power imbalance emotional blackmail, because i'm not fully sane. I simply can't be the one that makes the choice or the step in this direction. But if he ever comes onto me or confesses that he developed some loving feelings towards me that are more than just being a parent, i will gladly tell him that it's something i feel for him too.
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>>84355978
Do you think if your daddy knew, not from you but just from somewhere, that his sweet neet daughter is just waiting and hoping for him to make a move, that he would make his move on you?
Because the way you describe it, it sounds like he is pretty lonely, like he traded the rest of his dating life to take care of you and provide you a safe place to call home. Every man has needs, and having a young hot girl that he lives with suddenly turn into his secret wife would solve a lot of the problems
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>>84350622
>JD vance
not legal or socially acceptable
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>>84355571
beautiful, such eloquence
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>>84355978
How often do you hug your dad?
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>>84351541
nigga incest has to be one of the easiest "crimes" to get away with if you're both in on it and you haven't left any digital evidence. then even if someone finds out it'll all be hearsay.
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Having retarded kids is. Having kids with your cousin isn't a big deal if it's only done once in a few generations, but when you keep doing it your race become inbreed. Just look at Jews and Arabs.
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>>84357279
>If he knew from somewhere else
I don't think so. I don't know really. But i don't think so. You see unlike me, my Dad is a normal, regular, functional adult human being. He married his highschool sweetheart, they got married and had me fairly young, and already owned a house together. I was born into what i think is a very healthy and stable household. And that hasn't really changed. He is a very normal functioning adult man. He has a job, he has friends he sometimes goes out with to drink or hangout or something, i don't really know what people do when they go hangout and socialize, just from reading about it or seeing it in movies and shows. But you see the picture i'm trying to pain right? He is very normal, so i imagine if he somehow found out, let's imagine he somehow gets on 4chan, and reads this board, and recognizes it's me, i don't think his first instinct would be to come to my room and tell me he wants to upgrade our relationship to lovers. I think it would just be shock and probably shame and surprise that i'm even more insane in the head than what he already knows. It would probably make him regret having me even more than he already does. I know he loves me, he has proven that 50000x times over, but i know his life would be better if i didn't exist, and i think he thinks about it too. Without me he would still be married.

But yes, if he actually feels lonely and misses these things or has his needs as you said that are not being furfilled, i would love to help him with that, i would love to do anything to start repaying the monstrous life debt i have towards him. Even if all he wanted was sex because he has needs that aren't being satisfied, i would be happy to have it with him if it would help in any way. But again, i find it very unlikely he would ask for this, because he is very normal, and has the option to have these relationships with other people. My options are him or no one.

>>84357838
I try to everyday unless meds zone me out.
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>>84352252
She already knows you are mentally ill, he's supportive and he's used to you. I don't think he will freak out if you tell him this.
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>>84350611
>There is no rational argument against incest
Higher rate of actual deformed retard babies that are a drain on society for decades if they survive the first few weeks of their lives.
That is the main issue with incest. You cannot rationalize making retard babies all because you want to fuck your blood relatives.
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>>84357889
That doesn't track when we see the damage from pollutants and already genetically fucked up people having kids as in the OP example.
But that's obviously seeking equivalence in the already degenerated society where two disfigured men can marry and have children via surrogate.
If we consider producing an actively desirable society this would be a different discussion
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So if anonymouse ever worked up the courage to seduce her dad it's no big deal as long as she doesn't get baby fever?
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>>84357886
That is kind of the thing. He (i believe that is what you meant to write) knows i'm mentally ill, and he is supportive and everything. He takes crumbs of rent from me and cooks for me and everything, basically the only reason i'm not homeless and thus dead, is because he cares. I understand that i'm already a lot with the stuff i already got going on. Maybe he wouldn't freak out, maybe he would be calm and just tell me that he isn't mad, and that i simply need to focus on not having these feelings because they are unhealthy. But it would still be something more to add onto the mountain of worries i already dropped on him. Now he has to worry that his daughter has weird feelings for him, which for sure is going to hurt and bother him, even if he wouldn't let me see it. Would also likely affect what we do. When we watch movies or shows together, we cuddle very closely and he let's me sit on his lap and also i sometimes sneak into his bed while he is sleeping. With him knowing about my feelings, i imagine he would put a stop to all of that. I would hate that, it's the only physical contact with another person i get, and i look forward to it everytime. It's also just facing the rejection. The way it is now, i can at least dream about it or imagine what it would be like. But after being rejected, it will just hurt.

Look the point is, even if he is not going to freak out or be mad, this is still going to worry him for sure. And i don't want him to have to deal with more than what he already has to deal with regarding me. That's why i didn't tell him about the rape thing either for example. It would just add pointless pain and worry to him, and to this day i don't regret that decision.

>>84357935
>baby fever
Not gonna happen. I'm very well aware that i should never have kids. My mental illness likely wouldn't exclude them, so i would just be a distant horrible Mom that doesn't love her own kids and likely neglects them heavily.
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Sorry for the double post, my message wasn't appearing for like 10 minutes so i thought i fucked up, wrote it again, and then just randomly both appeared.
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>>84351541
>The state has a monopoly on violence
Did that stop the Founding Fathers? Or are taxes a better reason to die than love? Fucking coward- I hope she cucks you with a nigger
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>>84358201
This is a very well thought out and intense larp you have. I admire the dedication
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>>84351555
They'll just be Sukdeep Dikshit but a few shades lighter
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>>84358284
Naturally. The alternative that because i'm a neet on disability i have literally nothing else to do than practice my drawing or be on here and waste time all day until death finally takes me one faithful morning is honestly kinda shit, i think i will rather be a larp indeed.
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>>84351718
nta but what drug did they get u on? some of the drug they gave me for "the condition" give me horrific nightmare and night sweat but didn't fry my brain. ya know u might want talk to your doc about the meds
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>>84358473
It's not the meds just full frying my brain, it's sort of the lifestyle, the existance and mindset. The meds do like mellow me out a bit or do like a little brainfog, but overall i have kinda trouble with commiting to stuff, especially to stuff that isn't like, instant gratification, if you know what i mean?

Basically you know, i don't have anything going on. I wake up, i waste my day, i fall asleep whenever, i flip a coin if i get nightmares and shit sleep or weird dreams and random duration sleep, and rinse and repeat. So the existance itself is very lethargic, very much just like floating through my life and my time, and then the light brainfog just amplifies that. I'm still enjoying it really in a way, because i was diagnosed very late, thanks to my Mom btw, so until second year of high school i had to go to regular school, so everyday was just basically nonstop sensory torture. It was insanely bad. So now at 21, i'm still kinda riding the high of being able to just be locked in my room and safe from all the noise and the people and the contact and everything else. Again, all thanks to Dad, could never afford that on disability checks alone. But yeah i imagine by the time i turn 23-25 the crippling loneliness and absence of anything meaningful will probably start getting to me. God knows what i do then. Hopefully nothing too stupid.
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>>84358145
You are implying he wouldn't do it. You say he's "normal", but he got divorced and he knows he won't be able to have a GF with you around. If you are attractive he might be down to fuck. Don't understimate the sexual frustation of a man who can't get regular sex from a relationship.
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INBRED SUBHUMAN PSYOP KILL YOURSELF PSYOP AGENT
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>>84358505
yea i understand all of it. it would be shameful for me to say i too lead a life like that. having trouble of commiting to long term stuff is understandable if u cant see your future anyway
so i supposed i understand it a little bit. but yea mine is same as your too from waking up waste my day and spend most of it sleep away. i supposed the only i don't have is sensory torture for me it manifest as a disdain for people and just general dislike for sound (mostly disdain for people that i cant neither explain or help myself and some form paranoia too) and yea i too was diagnosed very late actually i think i was only diagnosed because i try to kill myself then botch it so the whole thing is really a walk of shame for me and uh they laid me off few months after the whole thing and i just live like you do ever since. i want to live like this forever too but how could anyone really without some form of self torment and guilt i know it eating at me everyday and sometimes i genuinely dont know what to do
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>>84358515
>imply he is normal
I mean sure, i don't really know what normal means, but just... it's hard to imagine you know? My Dad was always in my eyes the absolute paragon of how a person at their best should be. Kind, caring, nice, pleasant to be around, well kept, straight out of school with a wife, a stable job, a house fully owned and not loaned / rented. Basically up until i was born, he was the rolemodel of a succesful person. And even after i was born, i have always admired him for how much grip he has on life. Even when Mom left and he for a couple years kept breaking down, crying, and begging her to come back on the phone, he still kept himself composed, was working, was taking care of me, was keeping himself in shape, and so on.

My point is, it's so hard for me to imagine a reality where a person this normal, this well kept would want to have a romantic relationship and sex with his mentally ill daughter. Or just daughter, even if i was fully sane, i still can't imagine a person like him wanting to do something like that.
>attractive
I don't know. I mean i'm not dangerously underweight anymore, for the first time in years i got above 40kg, so i guess i got that going for me. But even then i never like, dressed up for school, or learned how to do makeup well, or most social things, since i can't do social. Also my hygiene isn't the best, i do feel ashamed for this btw, i'm not some slob who enjoys not being clean, but it's hard to care enough and push myself with the lethargic lifestyle + brainfog + not having a bathtub.
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>>84350611
>2 of their children died after inheriting both parents dwarfism
How small would a double dwarf be? Even smaller than Verne Troyer? Can we get down to a mouse sized adult human? A triple or quadruple dwarf maybe?
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>>84350611
bro/sis relationships are based and pure, opposite sex siblings are made to fuck each other
all other immediate family incest is weird and should be illegal
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>>84358709
Why are the replies i'm writing not being displayed? is the website having an outage or is it my wifi fucking up? Can you see what i wrote to you?
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>>84359113
4chan's been shitting the bed ever since they did site maintenance several hours ago
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>>84358709
fuck it i will just write it again

I was saying in the reply that won't show up that i find it funny we had to push to an extreme to get there. For me it was when i became so dangerously underweight that i had to be hospitalized when i was finally sent to a psychiatrist. Obviously they will send you one to ask why you are turning into a skeleton. I was finally diagnosed and put on disability and taken out of highschool. I remember my Dad when he was told about my condition and just how ultra severe my SPD is, he hugged me and he was apologizing for not taking me here earlier and stuff, but it's not his fault. Mom kind of fucked me over on this thing.

Ever since i was little, my Mom insisted that there is nothing wrong with me, and that i'm just a missbehaving brat and that i don't need to be taken to any therapist or psychologist. All the weird behaviour, the sensory overloads, running from her, screaming when touched or avoiding it, refusing to hug her, refusing to get in the car with her, the constant problems at school. All of it, she always dismissed it as me just being a brat and doing it to establish control or dominance, like i was a dog on the dog whisperer or something. Well she kept it up for 10 years, then gave up, and 2 years later left us. I don't blame Dad that he didn't take me anywhere after Mom left, at that point i was basically conditioned to know that seeking professional help is not an option, and to Dad, Mom's word was law plus he was super depressed from her leaving so i think he just kinda went through the motion day to day. So yeah, my torment filled school years, i have Mom to thank for those. If it wasn't for her insisting, i could have been diagnosed as a kid, or maybe homeschooled or somehow isolated. I definitely didn't belong to a normal public school.
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>>84358344
Have you ever drawn anything for your dad?
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>>84359644
Not yet because i'm not good enough at it yet. I haven't really been drawing for that long, but once i hopefully get good enough at it, i 100% want to draw him something. But i don't wanna do it or even post anything or show stuff before i get good, because i find it so pointless to share around bad art, especially when it's nsfw. I'm not talking bad art like just because someone gets wrong shading or something, i'm talking those drawings that look like they are made by a 5 year old, like they are "my first sonic oc". You can probably imagine what artwork type i'm reffering to. Especially when you come accros such stuff in porn, really dislike that. I want to maybe try drawing some smut too myself eventually if i get good enough so that my drawings start look like anything. But yeah still not good enough at it.



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