I bet back in the day Fat girls used to be super easy and accessible. Now a looksmatched Chud like me cant even get their attention no! I have to be Chad to fuck a overweight PAWG
>>84351598Relationships are less fulfilling than friendships
150 years ago you had to have babies fast since you were probably going to die in war or from one of like 50 contagious diseases.If a woman wasn't married by 20, there was assumed something was wrong with her. Also legally women couldn't do jack shit until the mid 20th century, in the first world anyway.
pretty cool that in the 19th century you could just go to a brothel and have sex with some dumb farmers daughter
>>84351598I started getting fit out of pure hatred for normies and women, but specially towards women. Years went past and i could go progressively acquiring better looking females until i got a gf who is loving and has a literal semen demon body who loves to fuck me as much as i love to fuck her. The thing im trying to say is: after years of being a forced plapper and realise that 99% of those pigs have zero redeeming qualities (ugly=good person is false) i stopped hating women and i only hate fat women now. Before getting my current gf those hogs would dm me, send me likes, messages all of that shit, those motherfuckers were DESPERATE to fuck me, but they always shit tested me about exercising and appearance by telling me how lazy they were to do it and that working out was some fascist/misogynistic shit or something. I didnt block them, i didnt unmatch them, i didnt even reply to their bullshit, i just left them on read so they kept waiting for me to say sorry for being fucking beautiful or how sad i was about having a penis or something. That shit didnt happen. And i know for a fact they seethed about it. Also, as a side note, i once tried giving a fattie with a cute face a chance but the bitch was unemployed, played videogames and talked nonstop about eating at expensive restaurants, take aways, traveling and it was implyied that all of that was going to come from my wallet. That was the only one i rageblocked. The fun side of this is that that hog is enrolled in my gfs gym and she insists in keeping a convo with my gf, but gf is giga jealous and posessive and actually wants to rip her head off if she comes close to me.>moral of the storyBullying works. Women are disgusting because no one dares to tell them they are making fools of themselves.
>>84351757I genuinely don't get why you are mad at women for having sex with you when you were looks matched. Nobody was holding you with gunpoint and forcing you to rut tubbies. You need to meditate bro
>>84351763I used to be mad, im not mad anymore. What gets me mad nowadays is mediocre people who dont even try. And thats what 99% of women do. They get told its ok and empowering to have fungus in their fat folds and encouraged to eat another piece of cake, while fat men are basically doomed. I did my effort and i got my reward. Women expect rewards for existing. Just take a look at social media jesus fucking christ, theres women being applauded for drinking their own piss, meanwhile men are considering suicide while they do well at life with the exception of being ugly and/or fat. Women dont look for a looksmatch. They need at least a man thats 3 points above them in the beauty scale.
yea, in a sense you can also have them all in order but you'd have to pay someone to make that happen
"fat" girls with high estrogen look amazing. Fat girls with low estrogen look like boulders
>>84351598not really, they were considered peak
>>84351938>not really, they were considered peakHigh estrogen = sexy. It's that simple. That same BMI in a low e woman and she'll look like an oval
>>84351668>If a woman wasn't married by 20, there was assumed something was wrong with her.The average age at marriage of a peasant woman in Europe in 1850 was 23. Only the upper classes got married young. Many women had to work outside the home before getting married.
>>84351971what exactly do you gain by jumping over the jumping man?
It's actually true. I was around 175 lb in high school at 5 ft 4 with it all going to my ass thighs and tits with a super small waist. Natural redhead too. I was objectively a beautiful young woman but I was treated like trash because I wasn't thin. Decade later I am 10 lb fatter and men scramble to talk to me. It's a joke. I was literally treated like a joke back in school. We simply weren't allowed to be fat.
>>84351961yeah guys simply say "fat" but don't specify the type of fat
>>84351979>I was objectively a beautiful young woman but I was treated like trash because I wasn't thin.by whowhen I was in highschool the guys were actually intimidated by the girl in class like that, with the young hormones rolling around it threatened to make you come in your pants.
>>84351993My entire fucking class. You unzipped me Popular girls would fuck with me. I wore a yellow sweater from Old Navy one day and they all made beep noises at me until another girl told me it was because they were comparing me to a bus. Another popular girl got mad at me for not throwing her tennis ball to her during gym even though I wasn't playing with her and her. She would follow me around the school yelling bababa and I genuinely have no idea what it meant. I had to talk to the vice principal to talk to her to make her stop doing it to me. He threatened to take her off that cheerleading squad and after that she never spoke to me again.
>>84351979Things were so different then. I think we've overcorrected into fat positivity, but in the 2000s some girl who just had awesome wide hips were considered fat. It was really strange looking back at it. The objectively hottest and healthiest bodies were considered mid. I think Victoria's Secret catalogs were part of the problem, making model bodies seem like the ideal. I also think women wanted to control the narrative about what is attractive. I think they intentionally do not cast curvy women on television because they intimidate the female audience. It's much easier for the egos to look at a woman with a pretty face and non-descript body. Just get the right clothes and hair and you'll look similar. But you can't make yourself an hourglass. I know women are absolutely cruel and aggressive to women with a good figure starting in middle school and ending when you finally turn 40. Vicious.Pic related is the curviest they let on TV and it was controversial at the time. Of course every guy watching thought she was the hottest woman on the show by far
>>84352000Also, I got asked to prom as a pity date by two men and I said no to both of them. One asked me as a backup date in case his first date said no and the second was a guy that was clearly attracted to me but kept lying that he wasn't to try and have power over me. We even got to the point of wrestling in his bedroom on his bed and he was groping my tits and then he sprung away from me and screamed that he could never have sex with a woman he didn't love. I later blocked him online and a month later unblocked him and he messaged me mocking me going owe you unblocked me huh? I didn't respond and then blocked him again.
>>84352000Just pure, unadulterated seething jealous6. The popular girls with cute baby faces can play all the social games they want, but they could never have a womanly body. This is heavily studied in evopsych. They were specifically trying to prevent you from taking mating opportunities from them. Like biologically wired to attack you. There's really interesting study where they looked at female hairdressers. They found that the hairdressers would attempt to sexually sabotage their own clients. If the client was considered more attractive than the hairdresser, then the hairdresser was much more likely to encourage her to cut her hair short. Basically attempting to reduce the femininity of the attractive female. They don't even know they're doing it. But they're wired to attack and socially sabotage anyone that they find more attractive than themselves. I've seen it a million times and my wife is built like you. Women have been really dangerous for her to be friends with her entire life. She ended up finding a really great group of friends, but women outside of it generally act like they're threatened by her. They're either aggressive or defensive. She's had to be a very self-deprecating just to stop other women from attacking her in social situations. She's noticed that she's getting closer to mental age that this is finally dying down. Women are treating her like a normal person now because she doesn't seem like a threat.
>>84352020I knew a volumptuous girl that went to an all girls high school. The other girls spread rumors that the only reason she was getting good grades is because she was sleeping with the teacher and she moonlighted as an escort. By the time she left highschool her confidence was shot, she wanted to be a man.
>>84352040I was literally a kissless hand holdingless virgin until 17 and there were rumors around the school that I was a whore for older man and a lesbian. Your words give me comfort thank you. I used to wish that I could have been in the classes with girls that were more similar to me. It felt like I was only in the ones with popular ones
>>84352032Holy shit this actually had this fucking happen to me. About 4 years ago I went through a bad breakup and I went to a local hairdresser to ask for medium shoulder length hair. She cut it so short. I look like Lord farquaad. When I tried to complain they got extremely lippy and cruel with me. Thankfully my hair is down to my tits again now but it is not as full and nice as it used to be. Also this will make you feel happy but the salon is closed. Fuck them. What is horrible is that my mother suffers from hair loss so I can't even talk about my hair in front of her or she gets really mean. It is really validating to see you type this.
>>84352040It's really evil and women don't get enough criticism for their psychotic bullying of curvy and busty girls. Every girl with big boobs ends up hating then because of how the other girls treated her. I've been with a few and each one will tell you they wanted to be tiny and petite their whole lives. You can show them and tell them over and over how beautiful they are and how much hotter they are, but the damage is done. So every gorgeous curvy girl has this schizophrenic reality where they are constantly pursued by men but feel like they are unattractive, and constantly being attacked and sabotaged by women but will have men holding every door for them and giving them anything they want wherever they go. Until they reject the man, then he'll flip out and call her a fat whore or something.It's a window into how evil human nature is. A lot of the hottest women are hiding because of this. They keep their social circle small and all the people in it are decent human beings and nerds.
>>84352015>Pic related is the curviest they let on TV and it was controversial at the time. Of course every guy watching thought she was the hottest woman on the show by farShe was moved off TV and on to broadway.
>>84352058I'm really sorry for what happened to you. I want you to know that there are actual people in the world who understand what you're going through, including men. Not everyone is trying to abuse you and you are worthy of love and appreciation, regardless of what you look like. I hope you find some peace and some decent people in your life. Just make sure to set boundaries and enforce them. Eventually. Good people will come. And if you are as good looking as my wife you will have your pic of the litter. Just be discerning and don't settle. I know this is very presumptuous fact I would say be yourself on dates eh. Find a guy who is like as comfortable to speak to as a good friend, But you also find attractive. You don't have to play seductress or whatever like a lot of attractive women feel they need to be on a date.Also, my second bit of advice is find a gay man to cut your hair. He will feel like you are a threatHere's the study""Off with her hair: Intrasexually competitive women advise other women to cut off more hair" https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S019188692300329Xsummary article:https://www.psypost.org/a-seemingly-light-hearted-study-on-womens-haircut-advice-has-surprisingly-dark-psychological-implications/
>>84351757I am trying the same because I also hate women. Same thing tried to give ugly women a chance and they treat you like dog shit. The thing is I fear that I am too old now in my late 20s and I have a shitty job and not really much money. I try my best to get new skills to make more but it takes time. Never had sex or even hugged a girl it gets me so often. The only thing that would heal is if a cute girl would treat me like a king but I am not stupid and know this will not happen until I am rich and look like the top 20 %.
>>84352081Teenage guys don't even know what to do when a teenage girl that is super curvy in the right place shows up. It short circuits them. Like imagine you are young man and the hormones started going and you don't know how to deal with it, and then the teen fertility goddess shows up to say hi.There were 3 of them in my highschool and they were basically highschool famous between the guys, but most of us didn't even have the guts to talk to her.
>>84352080>She was moved off TV and on to broadwayToo much female seething. It's sad. A lot of women can't make it in Hollywood just because they have a somewhat decent figure. Women really are that jealous. That's why hottest women on TV are really kind of not that impressive when you look at the kinds of Instagram models men worship. I have trouble believing men are anything like this. We look at Don draper from mad Men and think damn, I wish I was that guy.Of course they also had to make Joan a whore on Mad Men. Right? She had to have a child out of wedlock and sleep with some client to get partnership of the advertising firm. Because that's what everyone wants. The women want to see the sexual threat turned into a low status whore who only succeeds because of her body... But also she's fat and no one likes her right? Bullshit. It pisses me off. Most of the women built like this in real life have a low partner count and they are very sweet and motherly. As they should be because their estrogen is through the roof. Women need to back off and accept bodies as they are. Stop trying to tear everyone down
>>84352109>you don't know how to deal with it, and then the teen fertility goddess shows up to say hi.Yeah absolutely. I remember actually going on a date with one of them. I remember feeling very confused. She had like an incredible hourglass figure and wide hips. This was the 2000s and I legitimately considered her overweight. I don't think she had it an ounce of fat on her body though. Instead I dated a mousy short flat skater girl. It's actually one of my bigger regrets from high school. I know for a fact that myself and others didn't realize how much we loved a curvy figure until we actually got with a woman who had one. All the girls that had been with like this have said that guys would say " wow! I had no idea I liked bodies like yours so much" like it was a revelation just to put your hands on their hips or sleep with them. It changes you. Also, it seems like once you start lifting weights your preferences change. Something shifts. Some guys never seem to get out of the preference for tiny flat fatigue girls. There's something there with testosterone levels and age. Looking back all of the hottest girls in high school were totally ignored or even mocked for having big boobs or not being tiny. I'm glad that this seems to be changing.
>>84352103You need to adjust your expectations to reality and become a better person. Seek someone you can can really give yourself to and love. I think a lot of women are looking for acceptance and love and romance. They want it from someone who's truly kind and doesn't have a dark heart
>>84352130Well you are a young guy with no experience, and the Playboy Cover girl shows up and you are still a beanpole. Why would she be interested in me? She probably got into the club already with no ID check and got the 20 yr old bodybuilder already. Why would she bother with you?
>>84352144>You need to adjust your expectations to realityNa I refuse never going to do that I stay delusional until I die>become a better person.I do that every single day just had such a terrible start at life that I am so far behind.>Seek someone you can can really give yourself to and loveSo a pet? Because real women do not do that lmao.>I think a lot of women are looking for acceptance and love and romance.Ah ahahaha okay reddit fag bye.
>>84352155>Why would she bother with you?But they actually want to bother with you. And as a beanpole myself, I consider the combination of me with a hourglass girl to be the most aesthetic of all body type combinations. It looks so good. Curvy girls were made for lanky guys. Just look at black people. They got it right. But yeah when I found out the curvy girls are actually the sweethearts. It changed everything. If you actually want a girl who's attractive and you want her to actually love you for your personality, look for one of these curvy girls. They've been so abused by females and Chase ld by men who only care about their looks that you actually do have a chance. You just can't be chasing them only for their looks. You need to get to know them and find out what they like and find out. If you are compatible. You can actually get them if you are actually compatible and not faking it. They are so used to guys faking it. They can have anyone they want so of course they want actual love. That's what women want deep down. And since they've been pushed out of the female status hierarchy for being too hot they have no reason to play games about this. They really are the best women. There's nothing to be intimidated about. Just come at them and like they are human beings and don't continue pursuing a few. Aren't compatible. Don't fake it and don't put them on a pedestal. They are the best. Cherish them. Seriously cherish them and treat them like Queens because of all the women in the world. They are the least worthy of your scorn and they could walk out the door any day if they felt like it. But most of them have a heart of gold
>>84352175>You just can't be chasing them only for their looks. You need to get to know them and find out what they like and find out. If you are compatible.At that age I'm talking of, it doesn't work, teen boys hormones are short circuiting them as I said.
>>84352103Im the anon youre replying to. You would be surprised about how many women feel the same as you. Modern feminism left a lot of good women being alone not because they hate men but because feminism instilled absolute fear of men. By default, all women think you are a rapist, you gotta be patient and let them to know you and know you are a good man. Theres plenty of money who are happy with a minimal wage guy and just want to be loved, same as you. Dont lose your faith, anon. Remember that we are all going to make it, no exceptions. Theres a woman out there for you.>sourceMet a shit ton of lonely women, most of them damaged as shit, specially the older ones. Current gf was abused by her exes and family and shes the most adorable and cutest girl ever, she gets equally happy if i gift her an expensive designer purse or even a 3d printed piece of plastic i designed for her, shes humble and very grateful. You will find a lot of trash women, but keep looking, anon, shes out there waiting for you to hug her.
>>84352144>I think a lot of women are looking for acceptance and love and romance. They want it from someone who's truly kind and doesn't have a dark hearti convinced myself this wasn't the case with the girl i'm dating. i pulled all the 'rational male' tactics, saw her as evil, playing games, etc. it was all perception and it poisoned my mind. she finally broke down and told me how i was destroying her and she just wanted me to care about her. maybe the tactics worked, or maybe i almost ruined the relationship.
>>84352193>Modern feminism left a lot of good women being alone not because they hate men but because feminism instilled absolute fear of menidgaf if they treat me like some beta offy doffy bitch then they can die.>you gotta be patient and let them to know you and know you are a good manI don't care, don't have time for that and don't want that. Not my fault that chad fucked them up their pussy their responsibility>Theres plenty of money who are happy with a minimal wage guy and just want to be loved, same as you. I earn average wage but that is not enough for women in 2026 so kys for lying no interst in old used up fat hags.>Met a shit ton of lonely women, most of them damaged as shit, specially the older onesLmao already knew you would write that this bitches can die fucking alone. You sound like some fucking cuck holy shit. I hope she cheats on you sounds like you are some beta who got settled for after chad had his fun. You can't make this shit up.
>>84352206>maybe the tactics worked, or maybe i almost ruined the relationship.They work for sociopathic low IQ normies. Decent women expect and demand authenticity. If they have healthy boundaries you'll never get away with those games. Manosphere advice will get you submissive, weak minded, morally bankrupt women no doubt. But that's it
>>84352309>Manosphere advice will get you submissive, weak minded, morally bankrupt women no doubtSo every single woman who ever existed outside of a very small group nice good to know.
>>84352335Keep being cynical and you can have a shit life I don't care
>>84352206>she finally broke down and told me how i was destroying her and she just wanted me to care about her. maybe the tactics worked, or maybe i almost ruined the relationship.apparently beating her counts as caring
>>84352361Yeah my life is shit because of women. Now that I don't care about them or their feelings I am much better off. I spend my time making money while you waste your time talking about feelings with some used up hoe hahahahaha.
>>84352371I don't have to make money. I've got a hot woman that I love and appreciate. Nothing can bring me down
>>84352266Be careful with those edges, nigga. You gonna hurt yourself
>>84351598This is simply not true. This is like saying that every single zoomer today has brocoli hair. Or every single millenial was a scene kid. Or that every single boomer was a hippie. The trends like heroin chic or super thin women were a tiny percentage of people that are always chasing trends like braindead hollywood copycats. Chubby women have always been hot, always been desired.Anecdotally, my great uncle has a photo album of his young days, he was a greaser in the 60s and fucked a ton of rich chubby bitches in Connecticut and Rhode island.
>>84351938>culture and standards of 30000BC is the same of 2015AD
>>84354820>>culture and standards of 30000BC is the same of 2015ADIt seems so
