Healthcare should be fucking free, because if God won't man should.
>>84363811Should be? It is, at least in every developt country example; Israel
>>84363811So these doctors are just going to make no money? The pharmaceutical companies are going to pour billions of dollars into their medicines and get no return? Or are you planning to enslave people and force them to provide the free healthcare?
>>84363811Only if it's legal to hunt fat people and other unhealthy slobs. I don't want my tax money wasted on subhumans with no impulse control.
>>84363853>>84363853We're going to enslave doctors and force them to treat people, how the fuck do you people function being this retarded
>>84363856Only if you can prove the correlation between cancer and obesity
>>84363811>the literal dictator who will kill anyone in the way of his goals would agree with my moralsNot exactly a selling point for yourself.
>>84363867Cancer isn't real. It's just a catch-all for when doctors don't know how to treat you except by hoping your body will reboot itself after they purposely bring you to the brink of death with literal poison and radiation.
>>84363863Who's going to want to become a doctor?
>>84363863when my appendix exploded i would estimate the "doctors" did roughly 1% (googling what to do) of the actual work and the nurses and orderlies did everything else. for most things doctors just don't have to do much at all and can be very easily replaced with AI and a few illegal immigrants i mean nurse's assistants
>>84363811Are you willing to practice medicine for free?
I agree. But, I think private insurance should be a thing so those can bypass all those shitty doctors that have insanely long waiting lists for basic care like all civilized countries unlike Amerilard Land. Seriously, Amerilard Land has one of the shittiest healthcare systems. Luigi did nothing wrong.
>>84364043Being a doctor is a lot like being an IT maintenance worker, mostly googling shit in 5 minutes. The exception are surgeons who are butchers wearing scrubs.
>>84364167>America has the worst healthcare except I want American-style private healthcare where I can bypass the shitty long waits like Europeans have to endure for their free shit
If healthcare is free being fat or getting tattoos is destruction of government property and should be punished harshly.
>>84363853>So these doctors are just going to make no money?Hey dummy, I guess you missed the memo but we all pay this thing called TAXES, and in an actual civilization that money would go to PUBLIC SERVICES like healthcare, instead of going directly into the pockets of jewish bankers to pay off interest on imaginary money they pretended to loan to the government. (Google Federal Reserve, that is literally how it works).
it's free in almost every developed country.
>>84364383Oh, so when you say "free healthcare," you mean "not free healthcare".
>>84364243>he doesn't knowYou can get private insurance that supplements NHS. It's how you can easily bypass everything. Having private insurance is guarenteed getting in quickly and getting treated. My friend is still waiting for his psych evaluation after 4 months while I waited 2 weeks.
>>84364167That's basically how American health care works in most left states. Abysmal public health care and expensive but efficient private care. There is 0 incentive to improve public health care.
>>84363811helthcare, massive transport, and easy access to homes. A healthy population is a working population. A movable population gets to the worksite faster. A population that doesn't have to worry about a roof over its head spends on other goods.It'd be easy to maintain these systems trough effective taxation (READ: THOSE WITH MORE THAN THEY'D NEED IN 10 LIFETIMES PAY MORE THAN YOU)but ohohohhoo,, le kommunizm!
>um ackshyually evolution and biology aren't 'right' or 'wrong' they simply ARE and it's our human perspective that determin--*invents antibiotics*
We can't have free healthcare and free college because that's a ridiculous luxury. Other countries need to receive US taxpayer funds sent as foreign aid. Countries like Israel. They are desperately in need of American taxpayer funded assistance. Israel just like America wishes they had free healthcare and free university.
>>84364524o u.but japes aside, they could swing it to convince people they're having it both ways. Finland offers free tuition if you serve a year in the military (or two years as a civil servant). so then it's not conscription, it's actually a voluntary scheme that gets you a nice reward :^)
>>84364024It should be illegal to be this stupid
>>84364524>We can't have free healthcare and free college because that's a ridiculous luxury. We spent 40 billion dollars on the Iran war.
Leaf hereHad to go to america and pay out of pocket 2x for expedited care for appendicitis and a hemmorage in my eye after a an experimental retinal surgery Free Healthcare does not work without the infrastructure in place to support millions of new arrivals every yearA mix of private and public care is the ideal solution to me
>>84365091>mixing ideas from both campsthat is true for literally everything and for some reason no one wants to do it
>>84365094We've attempted here and either private practices get cucked with what they can offer or they get sued into oblivion for not being equitable (telus e doctor's as a example)Im sorry in this hyper capitalist society people who can pay should get expedited treatment sans organ donations and private costs should give a financial kickback to public healthcareWow everyone wins If you pay you skip the line in a non public hospital/clinic and what you pay actively contributes towards the public healthcare system
>>84364398Is it true you guys literally shit your pants when someone says the holocaust never happened? Because seriously, it never happened.
>>84363811>Healthcare should be fucking free,Doctors should work for free? Who would want to be a doctor then?What is your occupation anon?
>>84364383This is called paid by your taxes healthcare, not free healthcare.Your proposed le free healthcare. So how can you make free healthcare work?
>>84365636Maybe you should learn to assume the person you replied to isn't op retardAnd free didn't literally mean free it just means you don't pay a jew middle man(you know the le Jews you hate so much) money to fuck you in the ass and deny your cancer claim cuck
>>84365628Wants yours first fuck faceWhy is that you're talking pointDo you enjoy paying health premiums? How much do you pay a month in insurance
"If god wont, man should" should be the core value every person has in regards to pushing us towards a utopian society or at least a significantly better one now but instead hyperindividualism therapyspeak bullshit that makes everyone a raging narcissist is what's pushed instead. Good things don't just happen to people. They happen because someone else decided it should. People won't get better lives if you just assume someone else will help them, because every other fucking person is using that exact same retarded excuse to justify their own inaction. It's like every person is seeing a dog barely alive on the side of the road after being hit and deciding they should just leave it there because "it might get better on its own" or "someone else will surely come along and put it out of its misery" while the fucking thing sits in agonizing pain for hours because all those people have vile souls.
>>84365678Its nice to see someone else who understands itEuropeans push this rugged individualism shit then blame some Mexican picking strawberries for why healthcare is unaffordable Gee I wonder who wins if retards push the no universal healthcare agenda*Spoiler my healthcare stock just doubled*
>>84363811>serial child rapist-murderers are still human and mourn the death of innocentsNiggers and comics are pathetic, together they're the worst
>>84365695It was a reflection on the differences Americans shared being irrelevant when attacked by a common enemy you neanderthal
>>84365664You didn't answer the question how you will make doctors work for free.Also what is your occupation.>>84365656>And free didn't literally mean free it just means you pay taxes out of your pocket to state middleman I propose free groceries. You walk into store then state official grabs your wallet and runs with it in the store, he fills cart with groceries he likes, pays with money for your wallet and rolls cart to you. Tadam! FREE groceries, they are literally FREEEE! Only idiots would be opposing literally FREE groceries.
>>84365656>and deny your cancer claim cuckJust yesterday I was at doctors appointment of "free healthcare". Due to "optimisation" rooms were the big hall separated by height high curtains so I can hear other doctors and patients. So I was waiting for my doctor to process me (he didn't do anything but paper work filling ok for future procedure quickly looking through my ok tests, btw I paid for blood test out of my pocket because system continued to bounce me form one window to another and I couldn't do "free" healthcare test before appointment came, I waited 40 days for this appointment btw). And in near room over the curtain I heard teh drama when surgeon was cucking old retired woman from spinal cord surgery. >Your back hurts? But you can walk right? Stopping every 200 meters to rest? But you can walk yourself? Nah your x-ray ain't that bad>try massage, exercises, and these pills>you tried these pills and nearly had heart attack? Ok skip pillsDoctors have clear guidelines. It's not about fixing worker back to wage slaving? Nope, no "free surgery" for you. These people would be shown a door. But what about "free taxes" they paid out of their salary for "free healthcare" when they worked all their life? We keep them money while denying them healthcare.
>>84365777.Just yesterday I DAMN BRO NICE ANECDOTE do not care
>>84365785BTW I am saving for IOLs, I have cataracts in my left eye. But "free healthcare" I pay from salary every month denies me IOLs.>you left eye can see right? It's -2 even with best possible correction? No big deal. Nope. Come back when your left eye cant see lul.