Unironically, how do you argue against this? Women can't be forced to like men just so they don't hurt men's feelings.
>women shouldn't be forced to do anything>men should be forced to finance my chronic baby existence forever because that's literally equality or somethingHmmm nah no thanks.
>>84373355you ever heard of that Zizek quote?pic related
>>84373355>Unironically, how do you argue against this?Men's strike.
>>84373365That's not really the point, the point is that the realities of the modern world turned men into an unwanted dinosaur. Women are employed, cared for, provided for and men seek their company because they are desired on account of just being female while men's existence was always built strictly on the utility they can provide.Society changed and women found a way to bypass the need for male presence while also having all the fruits of male labor. Basically men are shit out of luck because nobody loves them and nobody cares what happens to them.
>>84373382youre not wrong but the news will instantly label this with the most retard mental gymnastics>LOCAL CITY FLOODED WITH FEAR AND PARANOIA AS THOUSANDS OF VIOLENT FERAL MENTALLY UNWELL MEN DEMAND SURPRESSIVE VIEWS BE BRAINWASHED INTO THE MASSES HOW DARE THEY ASK BASIC THINGS LIKE DOUBLE STANDARDS WOMEN OPENLY ADMIT TO ABUSING TO BE TONED DOWN
so why does your nation keep importing a million brown men a year
>>84373506cheaper males with fewer needs for manual labor
>>84373355The argument is rather simple. Ironically enough, men can only become 'useless' or be mostly replaced by women in a society established my men. If society collapsed and mother nature's rule was re-established, men would regain their place at the top of society simply due to being physically stronger and more capable. Similarly, if a truly oppressive matriarchal society were established, it would be practically impossible for women to hold on to power for any extended period of time for this same reason. One man alone is stronger than oftentimes two to three women combined, has fighting instincts, and is less likely to cower when placed in a combat situation.
>>84373553your write like a redditor and causation does not equal correlation your ragebaiting retard
>>84373553But then you also agree that men are only valued to the extent of their utility and if there's a more economic alternative then society will go with that because we're just interchangeable units.
>>84373605is this the so called 4channel epic trolling?
>>84373605>causation does not equal correlationyou call someone a redditor and then say a redditors favorite line. ironic.
>>84373512but men are not needed at all and useless, so why improt so many of them? surely immigrants should be women only
They're not needed anymore, but they're struggling to adapt to being wanted. Wait, so thats a good thing. Nice bro.About time we had a positive thread round ere.
>>84373625i have to speak this nigger's language so they understand
>>84373355>"Men aren't needed anymore">hot new draft law for men aged 18-25 enactedI'm tired...
>>84373355I've come to call this Animaia, pronounced Anna-Maya, combining anima - the concept of the inner feminine, and the greek suffix ia - describing something being in an unnatural state. It's essentially a transmissible mental illness that at its core is the assertion that men are useless and categorically evil while women are the default state of human experience and therefore morally superior. It breaks people's willingness to interact with and pursue the opposite sex. The thing is none of the assumption is true. Men aren't evil or useless, women and femininity aren't the default state of being a human and it certainly doesn't make an individual morally or physically or mentally superior to anybody. They're facts that make us different. Simple as.
>>84373634You misunderstand. Men are needed for utility, they are not needed as a direct provider anymore because women have alternative ways of securing resources because of how modern society works.Aside from reproduction, there's no such need for women but instead they are desired which is nearly unconditional. Women are desired whether they reproduce or not, women hire each other because they prefer the company of women, men hire women because they prefer the company of women, everyone is nice to women because they just like women.That's what I'm trying to say.
>>84373653I think they will do that in a different way, they will staff every white collar position with women, they will staff most blue collar positions with immigrants and native men will have a choice between fent city or the military.
>>84373605The phrase you're looking for is "correlation does not equal causation" if something causes something else then they are inherently correlated, retard>>84373616I am arguing outside of the bounds of modern economics, though I do agree with the fact that yes modern society will rush to replace men if there is a more economical alternative that provides a similar amount of utility. This is partially why AI is such a hyped thing right now. That being said, what I am arguing is that so long as the human race exists, men will exist, and so long as men exist they will exist as the physically stronger sex. As much as those of us in modern society like to consider ourselves removed from nature and the laws that govern it, we are not. Deep down, we are the same people from thousands of years ago that would rape, pillage, and murder neighboring tribes without remorse. Society and technology have not progressed to the point where any amount of money or economic utility will save someone from being punched in the face or bashed in the back of the head with a brick. Physical strength and frankly violence are still the great equalizers. Everyone, regardless of race, religion, sex, or economic status is susceptible to death, and men are more capable of killing than women will ever be.
>>84373672NTA but I understand, women are a parasite class
>>84373355What's stopping men from enslaving all women and killing any who resists?
>>84373760they like women and don't want to do that
>>84373355This is men's fault. Plain and simple. They love to punch down on their own group if one insider is not up to their standards (working 60h a week without complaining, not feeling pain or emotions).It created a gender of romanceless and autists that cannot imagine their being to have any value more than being a provider (HR's word for a slave BTW).Men are a dying race and it's their fault. Maybe they should stop raping each others in the army or medicine school if they want to be taken seriously.
>>84373404Women want men to support the infrastructure. Women aren't garbage men, road workers, or electric linemen. Women have failed to take those positions despite the opportunity. Hopefully all men die tomorrow of heart attacks so women can starve to death in a hellscape of their own making.
>>84373772Men are what they needed to be and women don't dislike men because of they are "romanceless" women are just repulsed by men on a biological level.
>>84373355You dont. Women are illogical and dont care that this type of behavior in mass is going to lead to civilization collapse and incel rape gangs. They only care about benefiting from it in here and now. It is either that or technology replaces womens monopoly on sex and reproduction. There is no future in which this type of setup continues in perpetuity because you are alienating the force that builds, protects, and maintains your society, young men, from any incentive to do those things.
>>84373355i dont need to, single women are coping about being the selectors when they are being selected out.
>>84373760Other blue pilled men that outnumber the ones who think like that.
single women keep making posts and articles and memes about rejecting men or whatever, but that's cope. those women will stay single and keep making posts about how its their choice and blame the men, kek
>>84373355Meh. Once sex robots arrive most men will be happy enough. Only attractive women will be seen as human to the top men though, uggofoids will end up killing themselves due to lack of attention/.
>>84373785>>84373772men made up the concept of romance by the way, before it was brought into existence by male thoughts written onto sheets of paper it wasn't even a concept
>>84373355>Unironically, how do you argue against this? Women can't be forced to like men just so they don't hurt men's feelings.Yes they can. That's how civil rights movement stuff works. Women care about trans people because we told them too. We could tell them whoever we want for them to care about, and they will in order to fit in with other women and not be ostracised.>>84373404>Basically men are shit out of luck because nobody loves them and nobody cares what happens to them.Hence why women should be forced to care about men, much in the same way they're forced to care about blacks and gays. It's not a fair system. Feminism broke what parts of the patriarchy harm women and left men unfinished. I have women in my English class talking about how the gender pay gap(ver exagerated when you look at who's applying and what qualifications they have) is unfair and how man are being favored. Meanwhile, women apply to fewer jobs than men and still get accepted for jobs more often, despite having the same qualifications. As usual it's just an issue of women only of noticing Chad Epstien Thundercock. But, if women were fooled into believing blacks and gays and women were victims, then they're capable of seeing men that way too if the acadamia cults ever decide to do so. But they never will. They're happy to use the same rehitorical points against men and whites and asians(hence why Asian wifes are the only suitable ones) and young people as the right wing uses against the left.TLDR women are not convinced to hate men with reason. They can be convinced to feel differently about men without reason. The narrative just needs to change.
>>84373959>Hence why women should be forced to care about menHow do you teach women to care about men if they just don't care about men?
>>84373959>Women care about trans people because we told them toowomen hated trannies by the way, they just complied with their insanity because violent leftists held them at gunpoint
>>84373727didnt ask and im not putting that much effort into responding to a redditor that i verify the saying is correct they know what i meant get raped
>>84373355>Unironically, how do you argue against this? Women can't be forced to like men just so they don't hurt men's feelings.We can't. That's why male inceldom is booming. Which will fuck up society in multiple ways.If they won't fuck me, fine. I'll be content to rot at home.
>>84373355Women talked for decades about equality, but now are deciding they don't actually want equality, they just want a hyper competitive world where they are on top and most men are on the bottom. Women hate the idea of dating equality even though they call for equality in everything else. It is hypocritical.
>WIFI>AC Current>Cars>Banking system>Functioning Computers>Well surfaced roadsThese things just "happen" as far as women are concerned.They're so beyond caring about other people they really believe the world men built doesn't need men.If men died tomorrow the grid, economy & internet would disappear shortly after.If women disappeared tomorrow there'd be fewer HR coordinators.
>>84374198you still don't understand the argument, women need utilities, but they don't need provider males. Utilities are provided by modern society, men are cut out of the picture and they'll do anything to replace them be it automation or immigration.
>>84373355Read the article, (pic related) and honestly it's much more thoughtful than most of these articles.
>>84373365No one forces you to spend on onlyfans whores you tard. If you put a benis in bagima and it results in a kid then yeah. You knew this could happen and still created this unfortunate soul so know you have to bear responsibility as well (the woman already does by directly raising the spawn).
>>84374362>Utilities are provided by modern societyUtilitie are provided by men, society steals their labor
>>84373727Human race can actually exist without men as a social entity. They can just make everyone into castrated troons, only allowing masculinity in the form of pre castration frozen sperm (milked from a barely pubescent).Same can be technically be said about women, and it is likely that women will also be to an extent androgynized, but the key difference is that women and feminity are just wanted, craved by society and most individuals, while masculinity and men are just tolerated for utility. Once utility can be covered(which it can, with robots and shit) , masculinity will have a push to ceaze existing.
Males are only good for giving male attention
>>84373909The romance you are talking about is the romance of drama and adventure, not love shit modern society means under it.
>>84373959Women getting payed less and being hired more easily are both continuation of same behavior, which is that women agree on more humble working conditions more easily. Men demand more money, so they get more money but also less people want to deal with hiring them.
>>84374371Men are glad to be chosen to help by design, all the humiliation rituals are designed to make us clingy desperate simps who will obey propaganda.It is a sign of decline in society, in the past men would do good deeds because it was the right thing to do, but when a state and society loses legitimacy, they resort to these intimidation tactics.It is kind of like the nerd in high school thinking if he pretends to like a certain kind of music or does people favors he will have an opportunity to make friends, but the preppy kids know he is just doing it to fit in and they exploit this, after he has done something for them they just leave and if he says "hey wait up" they say "ok?" and shun him. They were disgusted by him to begin with, no matter how he behaves or what he does they will view it as a facade and they will still be disgusted by him. He will never fit in, and how can he when he is never given an opportunity to do so?Basically society wants more men in this sorry state and to keep them there. The man who does not simp, who does not help women, who does good deeds perhaps but not for n*rmies", this is the man you should fear.
>>84373909>men made up romance>mostly women consume media revolving around romance
>>84373969100 years ago women didn't care about niggers or criminals at all, now they weep and riot and act like the world is ending if a fent addict career criminal ODs in police custody. Stop acting like women actually form their own beliefs. They are pack animals who do whatever the loudest voice of authority tells them to do because they want to fit in with the rest of the herd. Right now that (((voice))) is telling them all sorts of subversive shit.
>>84374362>I need milk but I don't need the cows. I will make cockroaches milk it is about the same but I don't have to deal with the cows. This is how women brains work. Enjoy your cockroaches juice.
>>84374503what exactly are you trying to say? Are you denying that men created romance?
>>84374362>Utilities are provided by modern societyI bet you're the same kind of person who thinks food is provided by the grocery store. Female-dominated careers have very little to do with the necessary supply chain to bring utilities and groceries to consumers. If all women stopped working for a month, you would still have functional utilities and stocked shelves at the grocery store. If all men stopped working for a month, you would be in the IRL version of Mad Max after a couple weeks.
>>84374510Women are extremely racist and they no longer pretend otherwise now that the likes of antifa can't destroy their lives for saying jeets are a menace or niggers are violent. You can try to hold them hostage the same way, but they'll just look for a way out. You can't ever teach them to actually love men, that's absurd to even think about. People only love what they love.
>>84374558>I bet you're the same kind of person who thinks food is provided by the grocery store.No, I'm not.I'm saying that the system provides the males to do the labor and it's set up in a way so that women no longer have to share a home with men to extract it from them.
reminder that it's usually subeditors who write the headlines.i'm not going to read this article, but posts like >>84373672 are correct.i know we all want some cutesy animu style romance, but we're the outliers. men throughout history were *necessary*, not *desired* the same way as women (generally) are. there are rarely women fighting wars or painting pictures of beautiful men, such is their longing. women just need someone to impregnate and protect them.OP's troll suggestion is actually the compassionate thing to do Tbh. show men a taste of the 100 % entirely optional affection that women have always enjoyed. as boys/men, we innately understand that we are disposable and replaceable
>>84373404Women are "employed, cared for, and provided for" by men. For most of human history women were not granted the privileges they enjoy today. They will return to previous levels of desire for men when they are forced to rely upon them once more, not unlike a dog loving you for feeding it.
>>84373959They see blacks and gays as an other, not on the male female spectrum. Whereas they are women, for them to see men as victims would be to remove themselves as a victim status. You have about as much chance of that as you have jews not crying about victimhood.
>>84374626>Women are "employed, cared for, and provided for" by men.without men directly being involved in their lives>For most of human historydoesn't apply any longer
>>84373355We are needed. Just not for sex. We need to do blue collar labor, soldiering, policing, first respondance, and wageslavery. Beyond that we don't matter. But they're still going to be made that chad won't marry them. And even if he wanted to, there's just not enough of him to go around. First they complain chad isn't a faggot. So they turn us into faggots. Then they complain we're not chad. Then some of us start talking about how to become more chadly to make them like us better. Then they complain we're trying to not be the faggots they told us to be.
>>84373355What is there to argue against? I am already aware of this fact. Women in the past were economically reliant on men, today they are not, in fact I'm pretty sure women are actually making more and going to college more than men, this has been disastrous for male SMV. But the BP is not an ideology, it is a way of viewing the world. It does not prescribe that women be enslaved in order to protect male interests, it simply suggests that women, in their free state, will not desire and pursue men as much as the other way around, they will not have the same attraction to men as the other way around.
>>84374671Men were directly involved in their lives though. Women didn't work or earn money, how did they have access to a shelter? Husband or father. Even brother is downstream of father. >This isn't modern society thoughIt isn't until it is. A single interruption and things revert to primal levels, this is known subconsciously.
>>84373355>Men aren't needed anymore, and they're struggling to adapt to being wantedHeadline makes no sense. Men aren't wanted. Why are men struggling to adapt to "being wanted" if they're not wanted? It should say>Men aren't needed anymore, and they're struggling to adapt to being unwanted
>>84374718Definitely a weird title, but the implication as I took it was that the nature of male value has changed. Not that men *are* wanted but now they HAVE to be wanted rather then needed. So instead of making yourself needed by say getting a good job, you now must make yourself wanted by maxxing your looks, not being autistic as fuck, jestering, whatever. I mean she wouldn't put it in those terms but that's what it is.
>>84373772>How do you teach women to care about men if they just don't care about men?Women don't care about anything except status. You make a trend of trendy bossgirls caring about men, women will suddenly act like they just randomly started caring about men. You can tell them anything you want. As long as you can pass it off as a trend, they'll get on the bandwagon because that's all that they are.
>>84374189>Women talked for decades about equality, but now are deciding they don't actually want equality, they just want a hyper competitive world where they are on top and most men are on the bottom. Women hate the idea of dating equality even though they call for equality in everything else. It is hypocritical.No, they don't want this at all. They do believe they want equality. They just don't know what that actually means.
>>84374703Women still clearly *need* men though in the sense that those universities they are all going to were founded and built by men, it's men who keep the electricity network maintained and fresh water flowing, it's men who design and build the cars and domestic appliances that allow women to be "independent". And if they ever get in trouble the first thing they are going to do is a call a dial-a-man service, whether that's a plumber, policeman or fireman to come help them.But yes I agree, women now live cushy lives and don't need a *specific* man to be romantically involved with them anymore. But it's because men have done too good of a job in building a society where everyone gets the benefits of men.
>>84374362>automation or immigrationAutomation can only go so far, for now, and immigrants are men who will presumably have children, some of which shall be native born men. For automation to do the work of men, it would need to be so advanced that it is basically also men. The problem reasserts itself no matter what. If men all died out and women somehow found out a way to still reproduce, a portion of women would just step into the role of men and a bunch of lipstick lesbians would be complaining about getting oppressed by butch bulldikes.
Foidsisters....the incels kinda have a point
>>84374775I agree, and yes by women not being reliant on men I was talking about individual ones who they might have to enter a relationship with, not that they would do well without men as whole.
>>84373355>>84373404>realities of the modern worldit's an alliance between old fucks and young cunts. the old fucks use young cunts to fill gender quotas and keep out real competition. absolutely nothing about this is reality-if you get rid of old fucks or gender quotas foids don't get a look-in. it's entirely because of two perverse systems combining to create dumb unintended results
>>84373760"men" don't exist as a unified group and never have. one group of men rising up and ruling over other men and foids is inevitable and one of the most common events in human history
>>84373355>Unironically, how do you argue against this? men are absolutely needed. despite the tech advances it is primarily men, still, who factually make the world of homo sapiens function and go around. picrel, sort of.>Women can't be forced to like men just so they don't hurt men's feelings.they don't have to be. it's a retarded psyop, probably by "liberals"" like that part, that are extreme degenerates of the /lgbt/ movement.Women love men and need companionship more than men do. They desire to have a partner.
>>84373355>how do you argue against this?You don't. You let a bitter crone seethe on the internet without an audience.You go down to bars, entertainment venues, hobby places and talk to women (some of whom are single and there for the same reason you are), and then you have sex with them, and if you like them, date them.No matter what she writes, even if she wrote 'men are the best', you wont have a gf by discussing articles on the internet.There's simply no path from A to B. It's the most important thing in life in general to recognize what is a distraction and do not engage with it if you want to go places, no matter if those distractions support or oppose your worldview.
>>84374916Dude when the robowaifus and augmented reality porn become a thing women are so fucked.
>>84374916>Women love men and need companionship more than men do.Abysmal dogshit take obliterated by hypergamy. Women don't want partners, they want someone who can boost their status, if they can't have that then they're absolutely fine on their own
>>84373969>How do you teach women to care about men if they just don't care about men?Idk, how did people teach women to care about blacks?>>84373979>women hated trannies by the way, they just complied with their insanity because violent leftists held them at gunpointPretty much. So just hold women "at gunpoint" again and problem solved.>>84374479>Women getting payed less and being hired more easily are both continuation of same behavior, which is that women agree on more humble working conditions more easily. Men demand more money, so they get more money but also less people want to deal with hiring them.Then both the pay gap and the hiring gap should be rejected, but the pay gap remains what women use to justify their belief that society favors men. That said, idk of what you're saying is true. People have the same job and the same qualifications but either aren't hired or don't recieve as much pay, presumably due to their sex.>>84374668>They see blacks and gays as an other, not on the male female spectrum. Whereas they are women, for them to see men as victims would be to remove themselves as a victim status. Yes, but women are also especially compelled by victim narratives. It doesn't matter if it would mean women aren't the sole victims of society anymore. If the narrative changed, suddenly women would want to protect men. They have a maternal instinct. That's what drives them as a whole, rather than self-interest. That said, it's this same instinct that makes it hard for that narrative of victimhood to change. >You have about as much chance of that as you have jews not crying about victimhood.It would be easier if we Jews didn't have to deal with you inferior cultures always acting so black, desu. We have nothing to complain about except you guys, who blame everything wrong in the world on Jews. Explain to me how the Jews are to anti-semites aren't just the same thing as cis white men are to leftists.
>>84374980I love my AI as much as the next man, but I still love females too. I'm no simp, I don't put them on a >pedalstoolbut I still wanna fuck them. I can suppress, but no amount of intelligence, self-control, rationalization can get rid of the biological programming. I want to put my penis into females.>>84374993as pointed out in this thread females just like males aren't a unified group. There are plenty of conversative females. I know it doesn't seem like that in high school and college, because every young person is a revolutionary, but talk to 40 year old milfs, you'll learn a lot about their conversatism. Very religious females, despite me not being a fan of religion at all, are very conversative too.You can't knock the biological wiring of females, they're programmed to look for some level of success and big partners, because they need a man, who they whink, will be capable of protecting them and the children.TL;DR: It doesn't make females evil. Evil people are evil. There are some amazing females in this world.
>>84375005>So just hold women "at gunpoint" again and problem solved.it won't last for more than a few years just like any other fad
>>84375005Sorry. Typos.*explain to me how how the jews are to the anti-semites isn't the same thing as how the leftists are to cis white men?
>>84373355You don't. You look for women outside of whatever shitty blue city you live in.
>>84375040>it won't last for more than a few years just like any other fadIt will last for as long as men reasonably can signal victimhood in acadamia. That's why feminist misandry kept popping up. All that needs to happen is a 5th wave of feminism, but for men's sake, that corrects for the 4th wave's shortcomings and hate.
>>84375027Once the tech, not just AI, gets good enough to feel almost like the real thing then it is over for the ladies. There is going to be billions to be made in this because the demand is there. Most men will prefer the simulacra because it is all the good of a relationship without any of the bad or the risk.
>>84375078Yes, this is a possibility and I can't wait for it. However, I don't see why one won't be able to have both the harem of AI's and a real, living, biological female. Simply put:Why not?Factually nothing prevents people from getting together in the world of robotic AI pleasures.
>>84375069I don't have a delicate way to put this but I think you're either the most delusional person on this website or a troll.>different waves of feminismall of them spawned by women's need to give a voice to their hatred of men through collective action, there are no waves, they're just adapting to the zeitgeist. Feminism = misandry = female nature>men reasonably can signal victimhood in acadamiaThey will wipe their ass with your complaints, because you don't have the means to enforce your will like violent leftists and even then you're just fighting to be considered a person. If that doesn't come naturally it doesn't mean anything.
>>84373355you argue that just being employed was never the only thing men offered or can offer of course.Unfortunately men are shit, so unsurprisingly that argument rings true for a lot of them. And maybe that's right? See what incels here wanted all along about Chad put into place, now women have a job, outearn them, know he's useless too.Men just need to improve really. It's really telling that women not being able to get jobs was the only thing holding a vision of society where they were supposedly so valuable.
>>84375088I mean the future I foresee if we dont repeat the Spenglarian cycle and revert back to patriarchy via some type of collapse. Is one in which the sexes no longer need or desire to be with eachother. Men because tech has gotten so good that it has effectively replaced womens monopoly on sex and reproduction to the extent that men prefer the hassle free experience of dealing with tech to flesh and blood women and women because of all the other points brought up on here about women having access to the fruits of male labor but without having to give anything to individual men in return. I mean it will suck more for women because given the opportunity and ability to reproduce most choose not too unlike men who choose to reproduce. If we have the ability to make babies in tubes and pick and choose genes I could see a future where the governments push for majority population of every nation on Earth to be super intelligent uber males because it is strategically advantageous as men contribute more to the economy and system then we take out in taxes. Possibly a small population of really attractive flesh and blood females to be in the uber elite and wealthy harems. Basically the future could be pretty fucking interesting.
>>84375098>I don't have a delicate way to put this but I think you're either the most delusional person on this website or a troll. The former. Sometimes it takes my kind to say what must be said.>all of them spawned by women's need to give a voice to their hatred of men through collective action, there are no waves, they're just adapting to the zeitgeist. Feminism = misandry = female nature Feminism strictly avoided criticizing black men. They strictly avoid critisizing gay men. They strictly avoid critisizing trans men(debatably women, granted) and trans women(debatably men). Feminism isn't just about misandry. Evidently if you're the right kind of man who's a victim, then they will refrain from hating you. I'm fairly certain that when age consciousness becomes a thing, leftism will have to choose a side, and when they choose the youth, young men will become a protected class, who will then directly challenge feminist misandry.>They will wipe their ass with your complaints, because you don't have the means to enforce your will like violent leftists and even then you're just fighting to be considered a person. If that doesn't come naturally it doesn't mean anything.It depends. Times are changing. Technology is fucking with academa and so is the drop of birth rates as well as the rising class based stress and how the left doesn't give a shit about the proletariat and is in cahoots with the bourgeosie and uses minorites as a way to avoid the topic. There's only so much power we can lend to women and the rich until men's oppression can't be ignored.
>>84375329>Feminism strictly avoided criticizing black men. They strictly avoid critisizing gay men. They strictly avoid critisizing trans menThat's not true at all.I can't continue this conversation because you're adamant in your belief that feminism is just some school of thought when in reality it is just a shapeshifting misandrist pilpul to always be be in opposition of men. Feminism isn't pro-female, it's anti-male.>until men's oppression can't be ignored.It can and will be ignored indefinitely.
>>84375236I see your point, but people are not all the same. Not having a biological need in each other means jackshit for relationships and sex.Some people will see the thrill, some people will be curious, because it's a healthy, natural state of human to be curious. And so forth.Basically even in modified future world humans will still behave in unpredictable and illogical ways. Two girls one cup did not get popular, because it is a biological imperative nor a necessity to have two girls and one cup... You can actually extrapolate it on any kinks that isn't natural, for example modern day clothes, like stockings, specific professions, and so forth. The less people will need to have sex with each other the more sex there will be between people, as a cup of coffee, a recreational activity, a curiosity, a fun activity.TL;DR: People just seek variety and adventure by default. And so my reasonable assumption is that the less we must, the more we will.
>>84373355You just don't. Listen man, if women are saying they don't us so be. Men have plenty of other things to do with their time than to contemplate why some bitch doesn't want us. You don't need women to get a good job, a good education, and enjoy your life. They're a supplement sure, but not a necessity. People on here will say cope this, incel that but the reality is life is more fun without worrying about others. Embrace selfishness. The worse women can do is disapprove, but who cares if they dont have skin in the game?
>>84375424You say this but evidently those who don't find women end up unhappy and ranting on inkwell forums. Surely you know how strong our desires can be, right?
>>84373355The solution to all this hoopla is so simple:Before you can get a diploma, you leave civilization to place where men haven't made things nice and tough it out on your own. When they come back and open a water tap, they'll say "Thank God for running, disease-free water".The oldest behavioral concept in the book is if you treat children like royalty all their lives, they grow up spoiled and ignorant.
>>84375380You might be right.The coalition of feminism is definitely how you say it is. It's just an excuse to be racist to men. It's like picrel. The theory for feminism and gender equality is not always like that. The school of thought has some good stuff in it. The feminist coalition has let women be less restricted by the patriarchy, as well as harmed men on purpose, which is its main goal. Maybe we need a mysogynist movement that does this? It seems undeniable that feminism has made good progress for gender equality, at high costs even for women. But how can we get this for men?Women used to be far more restricted and forced into feminimity. Now it's a choice for them and feminimity is a much wider scope(think genes and shit). Is it so wrong that I want men to not be only known for either being rapists or failed rapists? I read some of the feminist literature. The world it offers for men is great, but women are assholes and it seems like they'll never willingly allow it to happen.
>>84375439I mean, I know its bound to lead to loneliness later in life. It's not healthy for either sex, but it's not up to us to correct it. Optimistically, it will take a generation or two of shifting mindsets to see the value of relationships despite the abundance of "lesser" men.
>>84375486I do agree with that, however I think making people aware that their lack of success is often not their fault is important, you won't find much luck trying to make women like men but you can make men aware that this is the case and that they shouldn't take it personally.
they arent needed for making blackrock money because women are 10x better ag being gullible goys
>>84373355i need a man, but i'm fat, black and ugly so no one decent wants me
>>84376809So do something about the fat part; that is completely within your control.
abject rejection has been my reality for a very long time
>>84373355No one needs or wants men. Everyone is scared of us, annoyed by us, or doesn't notice us. Even other men are like this.>Well just be less shit thenHmm yes, let's solve social issues by putting agency on the individual, I'm sure that's going to do anything
>>84373355>Men aren't needed anymoreAs men do 90% of all infrastructure work such a trash, roadwork, mechanical engineering, and technically upkeep.What they're actually saying is "Unattractive men aren't needed anymore for relationships." Women legit would be happy to have men as a slave caste, assuming the top 5% are available for breeding. And they'd still somehow twist it as a patriarchal system.
>>84378152>What they're actually saying is "Unattractive men aren't needed anymore for relationships."that's what's being discussed, people who write these articles should have finished elementary school to develop the vocabulary of a 10 year old so that they could tell the difference between desire and need
>>84373355The only thing I'm mad about is women getting emancipated through fake jobs. I actually wouldn't be mad if women in the workforce were actually productive.To this day we're still cuddling women but without getting any benefits from it.
>>84379006meester meester, can you please lift the box of fries for me? meester meester, can you please take this trash out, its too heavy for me, por favor, meester.Meester can you please climb this ladder and reach up and clean some random thing on the ceiling, meester por favor.This is all you hear working with women.
>>84373484Well it's actually even illegal.Men run critical infrastructure and leaving powerplant or railroad is literally a felony for workers. They are little men slaves tied by chains of law to their workplace.
>>84379044When walking from launch back to work I witnessed this scene.Delivery to the office. Car parked at doors and little girl came out to accept delivery. I believe it was general office small items and she somehow could move them into office by hand . But. Order was big and supplier packed everything on a pallet. Girl helplessly jumped from one leg to another looking around. Now wya she can take pallet out of truck and move it out. Driver was like >I am not cargo mover I am not touching this pallet She looked around there were dozens of ofce men smoking after lunch break but all they like >nope not my problem I as logistics manager myself was very pleased bythis situation. Simps finally started to wake up.And btw it's not only her body failure (man can call his bros and they can move this pallet out of truck) but also her brains too. She should've check delivery and unload options but she just didn't bother. She could check to not palletize delivery or pick tail lift truck that would unload delivery. But she didn't. All life she had men to cover her fuck ups, but now "not needed" men turned back to her.Stop been a simp.
>>84379150I have a female friend I play WoW with who literally won't do end game unless it's with her designated group of simps, I knew a few girl gamers like that. They depend on men a lot and try to act like they don't, it's really fucking awkward.
>>84373355>random 40yo nepobaby woman with stupid opinions publishes a blog post >brings it here as bait for the sake or replies and traffic OP, the amount of ill will and curses you will receive in your life is justified
>>84379172What's wrong with discussing a clearly observable trend and attaching a rare honest female opinion next to it to start a thread?
>>84373772>>84373355Why are young men aged 20 the most blamed?
>>84379198demoralization and propaganda.Every sane person knows that a modern 20 year old didn't do shit. Today's 20 year old was born when the first iphone came out.
>>84378152>>84379006I think people underestimate the amount of bullshit jobs women have because they're embedded at every level of society. Women are probably leeching more off men than ever before in history, especially when you look at things like transfers through welfare and taxation. They actually genuinely used to work non-bullshit jobs when they did work in the past, especially rote factory work that paid slop wages. The jobs they do work now just seem everywhere to be superfluous and patronized.The difference is in the past the resources they leeched went towards actually rearing children, which women don't really do now. In the past you did have a lot of widows though that got an inheritance after her older husband died and splurged that money on herself, and you had some mistresses to powerful elites. But those existed on the periphery, the latter was shamed for rearing bastards, and most people were monogamous normalfags. What I am loving is nepotistic Jeets really beginning to end this shit. If there's bullshit jobs going then diaspora minorities are sniffing them out for their own caste and clan, and western women have no real effective defence against such clannish collectivism. You can't longhouse and shame an indian with cries of "racism", you can't shame him for anything if you're part of the outgroup.
>>84379229Feels good to bump into a fellow astute gentleman every so often. Without jeets, the roastie deep state could never be cleared out.
>>84379252Why do you think racism has suddenly become acceptable the last few years against them? It's because they give women the ick, and they give women the ick because Indian men literally approach the economy and life like women do. They come from a collectivist culture that avoids direct confrontation, where they're constantly trying to angle and deceive one another, and live off others in a rent-seeking, exploitative manner. The unassimilated sub-continental is the greatest economic threat western women have ever faced, someone evolutionary adapted to see through their bullshit. When I go into a business with an Indian manager (they are actually capturing many government departments here) the local women working there look fucking miserable kek. Blacks get henpecked and emasculated into their place by their mammy women in middle management positions. White women of course romp around the workplace flaunting the worst aspects of their shitty behavior. The unassimilated Indian takes the abuse, keeps his head down, proliferates his caste and then flips the script on the roastie. Maybe if western women weren't rent-seeking exploitative parasites then their niche wouldn't be invaded by a region of the world characterized by rent-seeking parasitism.
>>84379270The difference is jeets can be cleared out in the aftermath because nobody gives a shit about them, but women could never have been smoked out because most of the male population would rally in their defense. It's brilliant actually.
>>84374371i don't think i would have helped her if i were the guy in the story
>>84374362>we don't need farmers any more because we can just get food from the grocery store instead now!
>>84379194yes so observable you have to pick a 40yo washed up whore as your source.get the fuck out of here OP, no one is believing this shit.
>>84374376taxes exist retardwomen just get free shit handed to them by the state for existing, and you legally can't stop your money going towards that unless you're living on NEETbux
>>84379590The argument is more>we don't need to liuve near or be around farmers any more because we can just get food from the grocery store instead nowwhich is true, you don't see the people that make most of what you buy, it's not to far a stretch to argue this would have comparable outcomes between gender relationships. That's the thing about all this, humans were raised to operate in tribes but in the last 200 hours we changed everything to living in different boxes and now different screens. No shit people are just living alone, most were never given the tools to have other people in their lives. So OP makes retarded posts because there is no tribe to tell him there is a better way to live.
>>84379689No, it isn't. Farmers get paid. Hoes just want they benefits of men contributing to society without giving anything back at all
>>84379705You missed my point, you don't know what anyone gets paid. Your computer or phone you are posting from you have no clue who made it or what was done in the process of making it. Say you discover that slave labor was used to make it and the only way to get justice was to surrender your belongings. Will you agree to it? If no, then you will understand how the world got to where it is today.
>>84379270Interesting take. I hate jeets but I also hate women so using one to displace the other then getting rid of them is genius. Though I am skeptical if it will work out that way as Indians are some of the biggest simps on the planet. They might just end up being useful goys for the female Jew.
>>84373355What's interesting is that women don't realize they have a biological clock. They are hurting themselves way more than they could possibly hurt a man. No man finds an older woman attractive, and the only cases where that's the case, the man has been dating that woman since she was young. But now, they have closed those gates. There will be an exponential amount of childless, unattractive catladies in their lates 30s to 50s crying a river over not finding love. Whereas men will be thriving with much younger women.
>>84379680She's not the source, she just mentioned a trend that is plainly visible. Women prefer the state over the husband, it's that simple.
>>84373355>Unironically, how do you argue against this?i can snap a womans neck in a few seconds im better and stronger if there was no laws they would be prey
>>84373355this is just women trying to keep other women from reproducinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX_iMpNyzIo
>>84379877sounds stupid, you need to learn to be the victim
It's mens fault, you fix this with 2 things>stop liking every girl on dating apps, it gives them an inflated sense of self worth and leads them to believe they can get the top 1% man>for the same reason, chads need to stop fucking average/unattractive women, because of this they believe they can nail down an attractive man in a relationshipif those two things stopped women would know their worth like the rest of us.
>>84380521>le supply and demandDoesn't matter at all, if they don't get likes and swipes then they're fine with that too. The only real cause is the asymmetry of affection between men and women. Women aren't genetically built to enjoy men's company. It's just mammal behavior.
>>84373355I don't want to be need, I just want reciprocation in interest but even that is too much too ask
