https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/women-men-femosphere-new-statesman-poll-b2958208.html>Just 35% of British women under 25 say they have a positive view of men, with only 11% saying that view is very positive>According to polling by Merlin Strategy for the New Statesman, the research highlights a growing divide, with young women far more likely than older generations to feel negatively about men>Many pointed to issues like sexism, lack of accountability among male peers, and major differences in political views, with some saying they wouldn't date or even be friends with men who don't align with them>It also reflects a wider shift in outlook, with young women more pessimistic about the economy, their future, and their place in society while both men and women say their views are increasingly shaped by the content they're seeing online
>>84378688More examples of women suffering from men's isolation. When are men going to stop being so selfish? You're hurting the poor women who ostracized you and laughed at you with their friends. What's wrong with you?
Good thing Muslims are taking over the UK lmaoEnjoy your future burqas brit foids
>>84378688The solution should be keeping women as sex slaves and regular beatings. Because:1. That's what they want and promote2. If women didn't have political power world would be better
>>84378688You got access to original? I wanted to know what percentage for men under 25the root cause I think is women's desire and sexual attraction activates under specific interaction type when men's are essentially constant but both genders are taught to detect it from far which only works for guys. absent that, the other gender would seem like people after them in ways they can't relate and anything different is going to be annoyingthe fix is implementing evolutionary understandings in govt policy, social norm and incentive making but obviously also for evolutionary reasons coalitions of shitheads will always run things and nothing can meaningfully change.
>>84378688We Black Pilled incels called this a decade ago.They hate us because we are not all Chads.We hate foids because they won't fuck us / their looks-matches.
A man raped me and gave me herpes. My view of men is very negative. Horrible, evil group
>>84378688This is great news. Can't wait for things to accelerate please god let me see this shitty Jewish system burn while I'm still alive>>84378747Define "rape"
>>84378688This is how retarded you people are. This is the UK, it cooks the books. Based on the "issues" brought up alone, it would seem as though they're asking women about the shitskin invaders raping and stabbing innocent Brits moreso than fellow Anglo white young men of similar age. Just a hunch, especially after Southport.
social media brainwashed multiple generations of women
>>84378790>t. john not-brainwashed
>>84378790I don't think we've ever had a generation of women that weren't brainwashed by something
>>84378778Sex against my will, you monster I wish i was dead
>>84378790Spending time with men will make anyone hate them
>>84378688When women say they don't like "men", they are referring to autistic men and/or incels. They love abusechads, serial killers, rapists, sugar daddies, regular daddies, etc., just not autistic men/incels.
>>84378688>Women do not like menYes I've known this for a long time
>>84378747A gay man sexually assaulted me but I do not hate all gays. Just that one gay. Why do you have such low resolution thinking?
>>84378907THISI'm a man and I can confirm how fucking annoying men are. Just look at this board lol xD
>>84378688The disproportionate amount of attention given to manosphere content creators was a deliberate effort by the mainstream media to cause a gender war and lower birth rates.
>>84378790>social media brainwashed multiple generations of womenlazy cope
you can stop creating the demoralization propaganda threads, and stop coping. this is just meh.
In my opinion we're in a transition period when it comes to what one gender finds attractive on the other. Women are increasingly earning more than men and that was pretty much our last trump card. We used to be protectors, bread winners and hunters. There's no need to hunt now and we're already the dominant species so we don't need to protect either, now women make their own money. We're basically sperm banks at this point. We need to find something else only men are good at that women find attractive
>>84379228Women earning more than men is massively offset by women accruing way more debt and spending more than men. It's also entirely subsidised by men. That being said, you are somewhat correct. We are in a transitory period where men who contribute to society will simply not reproduce, while women largely select for actual retards and psychopaths.
>>84378741>>84378688Same article also has info that older women has larger percentage who view men positively.Wall redpill.
>>84378702You think they care? Its british men who are losing their territories lolWomen have no agency
>>84378688People only make this thread because they as men REFUSE to accept anything that reduces their chance at sexual selection, which describes like 50% of the problem with men in general lol.
>>84379228>There's no need to hunt now and we're already the dominant species so we don't need to protect either, now women make their own money.If men go on strike for one week entor society will collapse. >we don't need to hunt nowTranslation from feminist nuspeak >men are enslaved by state and women can receive results of their labor without giving these men slaves anything back
>>84378790And men are not brainwashed by porn and social media?
>>84379250What did you even mean?
>>84379250I am married and fucked around a lot when I was younger, so my sexual selection is complete. What worries me is my eventual children growing up in a completely insane society of single mothers who are exclusively fucking low IQ anti-social psychos to the detriment of systems functioning.
>>84379250We should learn from women. They are so much better when it comes to handling sexual rejection as proven by their tolerant attitude towards age gap relationships and sexbots and AI gfs and passport bros.
>>84379228>We need to find something else only men are good at that women find attractiveWe already have that, its called masculinity and BBC
>>84379254to the average literally anything, ANYTHING that increases mens personal chance for sexual success is good, and anything at all that (to them) decreases chance at sex is bad, and they must be diametrically opposed to it. This leads to intellectual stiff, narcissistic, self unaware men, who ensure their own demise. Look at this board. so few people here accept how insufferable they are, and wont ever accept it. Despite if they met someone like themselves they would hate them with all their hearts. So of course women are the ones that are wrong, not them. Women do have horrible dating behavior in some ways, but thats irrelevant to men being pretty horrible insufferable disgusting people.>>84379260>"my sexual selection is complete....">"my CHILDREN....">"ITS THE FOIDS WHO ARE WRONG"exactly what im talking about retarded ass nigga. not an ounce of self awareness.
>>84379272I wonder how many men here have actually rejected a woman, because they go fucking mad. The last chick I rejected had a borderline mental breakdown and started sleeping around with anyone she could to get back at me and convince herself she was attractive. I have had a woman spam me with a hundred messages after I refused to go back to her place on the first date, telling me I was a piece of shit entitled white boy.
>>84379277Well, uh, yes. Women are wrong. The data suggests that women preference anti-social traits for reproduction. Low inhibition, low impulse control, ADHD symptoms. You may find this shocking but I don't want my kids to grow up in a nightmare hellworld where every single one of their classmates is some dysgenic maniac with no self control, because that sounds bad. And it's already happening, just look at the state of schools.We do, in fact, live in a society, and women are fucking awful at choosing mates that are conducive with a functioning, worthwhile future.
>failed thread>must demoralizeyawn
>>84379272I promise you women dont care about that shit. It's not concern with rejection(mostly, sometimes it is, but its not really relevant), its just a general lack disgust with the further confounding behavior from men. men would rather create a space industry of sexual paraphilia than admit they are treating people in ways they would never want to be treated.>>84379286I mean a women seems to have chosen you, and you exhibit most of the traits you claim to hate. you cant even seem to understand the conversation youre in, or how sexual success includes your kids success. Of course, you know better than anyone else about other women and whats best for them and the future, so YOU should be controlling women even more, while not understanding how incredibly dysgenic this kind of thought process is. but you will never gain self awareness which again is part of the issue.
>>84379302>I mean a women seems to have chosen you, and you exhibit most of the traits you claim to hateI am not even going to read after this, because it's utterly deranged to the point of being a non-sequitur. I wasn't aware that making posts on 4chan about being concerned for the future of my children and society exhibited "low inhibition, low impulse control, ADHD symptoms" and a form of psychopathy, and low empathy.I think you just wanted a smirking, smug "heh... Gotcha!" and didn't really think this through.>You are concerned for the future because, statistically, the only people reproducing are poor retards with no self-control?>Heh... Well, Chud, that's actually you! Checkmate!Awful stuff.
How are women supposed to get to know is if we aren't even allowed to talk to them? Likewise how are we supposed to learn about women and how to talk to them?Consider also women didn't hate men in the past even though supposedly we were more "misogynistic". Society is quite literally suffering under what might be called "woke" or "political correctness" or whatever you want to call it, a deliberate propaganda campaign on social media to make people afraid and hyperjudgmental of everyone else and the result is men being completely ostracized unless they are hyperconformist with no gap in their record.If you haven't abandoned modern western society already you need to do so or your life is going to be shit basically. Join some church in the mid-west, learn a new language, just get the fuck away from these people.
>>84379314>isnt aware enough to consider his childrens sexual success a sexual success>claims to have "fucked around", the number 1 behavior behind creating single mothers>doesnt have the mental capacity to realize his replies fit entirely fit entirely within the model of confounding narcissistic self unaware humanity denying worldview men will generate when their sexual success is threatened>is demonstrably low empathy but thinks everyone else is and out to get him because other peoples view dont aligned with his(which is the one where he wins)look i know youre an average retarded male but ill spell it out for you even more. you saying >"oh just because im afraid my (male)kids wont find good women im the bad guy!"is literally not the conversation were having, and fully shifting the blame toward women while blaming them for some retarded sexual conspiracy that you yourself have no blame in(of course) is part of the self confounding behavior.no but explain to me how you sleeping with a bunch women shifts the world toward one with less single mothers, because youre NEVER in the wrong are you?
>>84379363I am not reading this wall of text, but thank you or something.
>>84379244It stands to reason that the pre-fuck apps generations would like men more.Sadly, I think this is now outdated. Fuck apps have also corrupted older women too. The Juggernaut Law, and all that.I mostly swipe on over 50s, and only rarely get matches. Even then, they won't speak to me, or they are not DTF.I get ignored or ghosted by them as well. TFW so incel I cannot even get GILFs.I'd happily fuck a GILF, exclusively and regularly, if one actually wanted me. FML.TFW I'm almost 40 and still perma-incel.
>>84379302>Even if you've had sex and reproduced you're still an incel.Lmao. Women can't be taken seriously.
>>84379372Wanting to live in a society where people are incentivised to make pro-social choices is extremely incel coded, Chud. You shouldn't care about anything at all, especially not the future of your society.
>>84379366>gee reading is so hard for me!i know>>84379372where did i ever say that holy fuck lmao, please get new preprogramming npc responses>>84379378>incentivised to make pro-social choices is>my sole message is im never to blame and we should hate women more! I'm a good guyyeah you guys are NOT ontologically evil and devoid of reason lol
>>84379378>people are incentivised to make pro-social choicesHow do you square this with (pardon the redditspeak) attraction to dark triad traits and hypergamy. Of course women don't like "men" (being the thin subsection they fixate on), average guys check out, and society ceases to exist. I'm not blaming anyone in particular but it does have a certain logic to it.
>>84378688> No percentage shown of women who have a 'neutral', 'negative' or 'very negative'> No percentage of men's views on women> The article is based on another article which is called: 'Meet the Angry Young Women' (paywalled)Biased, Contrived, Abstract? Hell nah, what you talkin' bout?
>>84379382I am not going to read your deranged non-sequitur spiel where you equate caring about the future with being a low-inhibition criminal who abandons his family. I just can't bring myself to. I understand you have likely been hurt by men (due to poor selection, probably) but that's not something I can change.The data is simple: women choose bad men, on average. There's no getting around this.>Men should be better!That would be nice, but women also get horny for dangerous, anti-social men, and that's just nature. Sucks, but it is what it is. The more women reproduce with low inhibition, low intelligence, anti-social men, then more of those men will be created. There is no incentive for women to choose better partners, so they won't choose them, because women don't find nice, stable ffice geeks attractive.
>>84379387Women were socially and economically forced to reproduce with boring, stable men in the past. Women were emancipated from this via government programs and benefits and are now universally debt slaves or on benefits, but they have the ability to fuck who they want and no incentive or necessity to not reproduce with actual psychopathic retards.The only groups reproducing, statistically, are the ultra wealthy (psychopaths) and the poor (retards). The middle class is basically dying out because middle class women simply refuse to reproduce with stable, middle class men and would rather be permanent debt slaves if it means they don't have to interact with boring men who don't exhibit dark triad traits.
>>84379396Eh the argument seems a little "us vs. them". Most guys eventually grow into being more attractive, but it's high-effort and takes time. Women do it naturally and effortlessly, everyone knows it's when they're younger and it won't last forever. So it's hard to match up the schedules of what everyone wants, a relationship is a partnership not a prison contract. Both have to get their way, at least a little.
>>84379424Women just aren't sexually attracted to stable personalities. There's no solving this without active incentives for maintaining a stable marriage or active punishments for choosing unstable partners.
>>84379394dont interact because you cant lol. Which is my point and the issue with men.>equate caring about the future with being a low-inhibition criminal who abandons his familynobody said this. if there was a machine that showed you are 100% a dysgenic man you in your own world view should not reproduce, you'd say "lol fuck that machine" and reproduce, or just change your worldview so that you could.You are forcibly being illiterate and arguing with with points you made up because youre intellectually dishonest, which is normal male behavior that i described before. this is the typical nice guy fallacy born from male insecurity and threatened sexual selection. I never said men should be better. You cant even understand or engage with my argument on a basic level, so youre fighting using your preprogrammed text to sully the pot and shift the conversation away from real solutions and self awareness. Shit is sad, and funnily enough, we both agree that women shouldnt pick dysgenic dishonest low empathy anti social men. The argument comes from you not realizing you are one of them.grown ass man whose world view is "aw man women never pick the nice guy" but a woman picked him, so your either wrong about being a "nice guy" or how women pick men. theres no "in le future its different". so as i said your too dumb and dishonest to not realize your contradicting yourself, but it never mattered, because your worldview is whatever secures your sexual selection.>>84379387everyone does this, especially men. "i want a goth bpd gf!", etc. No one brings this up because this is irrelevant to heterosexual male sexual selection. in fact, the unstable, evil, criminal men youre talking about agrees with this sentiment the MOST. but THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION is a giant reflection of male sexual deception, self deception, and fallacy. the thread was about women not liking men. You all were confronted with that. however your answer is to SHIFT THE CONVERSATION to blame women.
>>84379444But women do like men.We know they do.They just like evil men.
>>84379382>where did i ever say that holy fuck lmao, please get new preprogramming npc responsesLmao, all female discourse can be boiled down to two points:1. I'm a victim.2. You're an incel.That's literally it, and they're the only things you've been screeching about this entire thread.
>>84378964Not her fault you're a faggot
>>84378688This only applies to white menUK women would lay down their lives for Muslim men to keep raping them. Meanwhile the Angloid either gives up entirely or copes by insulting Americans who actually kill black people
>>84378688>According to the poll carried out by Merlin Strategy for the New Statesman>no source of the actual data gathering What is the god damn point of this?
