Are "Chads" born or made?I'm fat btw don't know if that matters.
>>84405283Born obviously. You can't exercise your face out of a recessed mandible or a low fWHR. Gymcel cope is a joke pay them no heed, half of them will be on incel.is sooner or later anyways
Too fat didn't read
Nope. Women love a good body as well. Just don't be a faggot with it like a gymcel.
>>84405283They are made>>84405303All of this is affected by lifestyle and childhood. You dont even understand the basic principles of looksmaxxing.
>>84405344Most people have similar dysgenic lifestyles after the agricultural revolution and especially after industrial processed soft foods, and yet you still have Chads that are born out of this mess. Brad Pitt could've mouth breathed his entire life and only eaten slop his whole childhood and he'd still mog you and i both
>>84405372Because moggers are usually farmer nomads in poor countries or fellas with generally good nutrition. Thats why americans look so bad compared to scandinavians. They have a better lifestyle on average.
>>84405283Made, but made by their parents and peers very early on. It's kind of a snowball effect. Good genetics and proper nutrition make you attractive, healthy and likeable - which lets you enjoy socializing more and pushes you to embrace normieisms like sport and extroversion.Early development is everything. Let a kid grow up bullied and isolated and he won't have a chad lifestyle even if he looks like one.
>>84405283Who (You) are is completely outside of your control. Every single part of your life experience is more or less forced upon you. Induced. A "Chad" is somebody whose genetics (not his choice) and positive life experiences (also not his choice) have given him a better quality of life than other random people. Your entire brain is inherited from your parents. When you point this out, people fly into a rage and call you a "pseud" instead of mounting any actual argument against it. We ourselves are byproducts of outcomes and outcomes of byproducts.
Made. I thought I was pretty ugly till I got lean and then girls were all over me. People ITT talk about face genetics but in reality your face changes so fucking much when you get lean and put on even a little muscle, it's actually crazy. I don't think genetics really play much of a role in it outside of total outliers. Look at someone like Christian Bale in his various roles and with various amounts of muscle. Most anons on this board are actually probably more facially attractive than him at similar weights. IMO pretty much all of looksmaxxing really just comes down to this. Your face and neck actually puts on muscle when you work out as you strain yourself, which makes you more attractive naturally.Also, I've noticed different amounts of muscle and bf% attract different types of girls. I'm 5'10 around 185 rn, probably 15%bf and I mostly attract normie/professional/very high functioning type women now, which actually kind of sucks at times bc I don't have much in common with them. Way more golden retriever or corpo girlboss types than ever. I still get plenty of eye contact from other sorts when I walk around the city, but "gothy" or more "alternative" types definitely pay less attention to me now. I attracted the most types of girls most on this board would consider "hot" when I was around 145-160 10-12%, which honestly felt unhealthy and unsustainable for me. I genuinely think most of those women are attracted to borderline unhealthy body types because they are mentally ill and aren't selecting for health so much as programmed aesthetic preferences. Last year I was around 170ish 12% which felt like a comfortable medium, and like I could get whatever type I wanted. Bulking up is definitely diminishing returns unless you want the sort of women who tweet about how they want a "dad bod" (read: guy who spends five nights a week in the gym) but I plan on getting back down to 10% after a little more bulking and we'll see how that changes things.
>>84405442>Famous actor plus anecdoteTruly the answer for the ages.
>>84405442I'm 5'10" and 145 lbs and women flat out do not like me.
>>84405499How much of that 145 is muscle and how much is fat? Do you actively work out? An active 145 is very different from a sedentary 145. Also do you groom yourself well/have a decent sense of style?>>84405493I'm just saying, really look at his face at his biggest extremes, which are closer to where most anons sit. He's actually not an outstandingly attractive dude until he's in outstanding shape, which I would argue is generally the case for most men. Very few guys are genetically irredeemable in that department I think, I thought I was for the longest time as well until I got into decent shape. People love to make excuses.
>>84405283use your brain>looks >>>>>> status > money
>>84405283Born then made. Got to have a baseline genetics, then on top of said baseline genetics work to the top.Hard work beats talent when talent doesnt work hard, but when talent does work hard it smashes the talentless into red paste.
