When women say they like "older men" do they mean the ones who kept their boyish features, or do they mean those hyper masc silver foxes who look like CEOs.
Google daddy issues. Young women also love men with confidence, which means non-zoomers.
>>84405285No. No I dont like em romanticallly. One old ass regular customer pmo alot and I think it has ruined my perception of old men. I like to be kid and sweet to customers, this guy think he is a special case and starts flirting in the most outrageous way. Does he think im flirting? I have no clue because I lack romantic experience. He told me shit like "you owe me a hug" and "get that hood of your head" (I'm muslim). I got the biggest ick I swear to god. I dont want to see him no more and he has become a factor in why I want to quit my job.I hate him but I will still remain kind to customers.I like most old people tough they are so chill and sweet.
>>84405285I think people become unattractive past 35 which concerns me for my future, I hope I will
>>84405340That's the thing that disgusts me most about old men desu. The difference in perception is huge and once you realize it it sullies every interaction with them
>>84405350Its the same phenotype of old men too. Those why are slightly buff, receding hairline or bald, beergut, and their skin is kinda red.Why is it always those?
i didnt choose to get old. come here, youngun
>>84405350>>84405340 as a youngish guy this happened to me with older women sometimes. I wasn't attracted, but I wasn't offended either. You just dehumanize old people because they aren't pretty anymore. I hope you get raped by a pack of virile young chads.
>>84405285I hope they mean the second one, I'm pushing 40 and started to see white hairs. But I don't want to believe it is over for me. Maybe it is just cope.
>>84405285they swoon for this guy that much i know
>>84405285They like the ones with money and who look like they'll die soon.
>>84405285I never thought I would be into one, but here I am. I am early 20s and hes mid 30s. Have never been so in love with someone.
>>8440557130s is not an older man and I speak this someone with a milf fetish (which i count women over 40)
>>84405285Yes, I like older men that dress like professors and will let me treat them like a pseudo father figure
>>84405340>get that hood of your head" (I'm muslimHahahhahahahaMuslim women are some of the lowest iq demographics out there
>>84405441You don't have the same frame of reference. you'd 100% be uber disgusted if women of all ages, even if they were your mother's friends, were infamously known for leering at teens going through puberty like packs of meat that turn sour at 18 or 20 at the latest.being "liked" like that is in itself offensive and dehumanizing
>>84405837are you going to be a pseudo child figure?
>>84405837I hooked up with a w*man who wanted me to rp as her stepdad. Lmao
don't you ever want to grow up little boy!
>>84405873No, I wouldn't want to act like a child since that's cringe. I just want a man that's gentle and "paternal" to me y'know?
>>84405894i wish you'd just admit that you don't want to grow up. that you're secretly afraid of the world and want to go back to your cradle. that your stuck in the past, where its safe. i'd hate you less for it, but only a little.
>>84405285I have daddy issues and like men in their late 30s/40s, even 50s. I like the silver fox type. Salt and pepper hair is hot as fuck to me. Pic very related.
>>84405906Yeah, obviously this is part of it. But I also just want someone to be gentle and patient with me too. Those are just really attractive traits
>>84405285No I like younger males, for some reason I always get hate and backlash from both moids and other women when I say I don't want wrinkly old men
>>84405952and only an old man can love you that way? something smells fishy and i think i know who its coming from..
>>84405285Men peak at x and women liking older guys is PUA psyop to convince guys that the dumping money on some gold digger shows that their methods work and that you have maturity or status or whateverThe average humans never grows mentally past highschool
>>84405974I mean I don't think only older men could love in that way. I just gravitate towards them since they seem more mature and less judgmental. Obviously that's not the case for all of them but for me personally I want that since I am a pathetic woman
>>84406021>I am a pathetic womani do think its easier to believe an old man will love you. after all they're so desperate to be with anyone young, right? want to know what i really think? i think you want that desperation. you want to be wanted in that desperate way. but just any normal guy wouldn't want you in that way. so what do you do? you take the only thing you have and use it like a bait to lure the only person you can make desperately desire you that much: an old man. its better to feel wanted. and if only an old man can want you that much then so be it.
>>84405538I just turned 39.its over for me. Should have fixed myself years ago. I'm trying to now but I fear it's too late.
>>84405846This reply was completely irrelevant to the discussion btw>>84405441What the fuck man? I did nothing wrong? Sorry I have survival instincts and I can see when people are acting weird.
>>84406021>less judgmentalI think they are still judgemental but have years of experience of how to hide it or more likely be more covert about it
>>84406168I've been around ppl like you who get extremely jealous and passive aggressive when w*men your age show interest in me.
i have always just vibed better with men and specifically men who were 8-15 years or more older than me on a peer level. if theyre attracted to me or i am attracted to them it is because of personality and common interests. i have never once been able to carry on a conversation with someone my age or, god forbid, younger, and even in groups with relative peers will start talking to the people with visibly gray hair and click with them. this is not good for having any sort of normal husband and 2.5 children life, but it would be nice to be the second marriage for a divorcee or widower and be stepmother to their children. i love children and raising them but a hypothetical pregnancy would either kill me, have me kill myself, or kill my children (for a myriad of reasons), so someone i can actually talk to and with whom i can be a wife and mother with would be ideal. what a shame so many people become deeply bitter as they age, especially divorcees. i suppose my own neotenous appearance and youthful manner isnt helping attract them here, though, as people keep guessing i am 19-22 for some reason. and yet online they have always assumed i was twice my age or more. curious. >youngest i have ever dated was someone with the exact same birthdate as me to the day (and hospital)for what it is worth, on a general level i still find men in their early-mid 20s to be the most attractive and always have. i like their youthful and more feminine features. never liked muscles, particularly tall or heavy men, or facial hair. but if they are any of those things, or if they have wrinkles, scars, gray hair, disabilities? if i know them as a person, those are part of their charm, and seeing old pics would just make me love them even more because that was a part of them too, just like how they will grow older and so will i, and i love all parts of them. especially the most vulnerable and human.
>>84406669have fun being used as a prop by someone who really only cares about themselves at the end of the day, or is that what true love is actually?
>>84406713>true loveYou are a fucking child with zero life experience. Stay jealous
>>84406718jealous of what old man.
I'm 37, and I have had an androgynous baby face that looks like my moms since childhood.I've heard my entire life "You look like a baby!" whenever I shaved, and the only facial hair I can grow is pathetic patchy Johnny Depp bullshit, so I have to choose between looking like a gigantic elementary schooler or a teen that went through a real fucking rough puberty.The only women that have ever shown interest are horrendously fat and ugly ones, and I've spent years trying. I'm 6'1" 180 lbs, and the only options available to me are whales and/or single mothers since my mid 20s. Now that Im older, and all of the fat women are in "i need to settle down" mode, I literally get clocked as a beta provider bitch man solely because of my face and these women actively approach me and flirt. I've gone my entire life without any meaningful positive validation that I didn't earn, so to see it now from fat, ugly loser women that see me as a mealticket is so obvious that it disgusts me. If these are my options, I'd rather just expire and make sure that these fucked up perpetual pupal genes go to hell with me. Youthful appearance only ever means anything if the youth in question was hot.
>>84405285old men are ugly i prefer men younger than me.
>>84406743I'm 34 and kinda look like this guy, and all I can attract are kpop obsessed teen girls while I try to actively hit on women my age 25-35. I was chasing a 40yo arthoe who thought I was "pretty" for a man (most dudes her age are bald and fat) but still got friendzoned.
>>84407834this is why zoomettes say I look like.
My wife dated a 41 year old when she was 21. She said he looked 30 and he thought she was late 20s. They clicked enough to date but eventually she just didn't feel the romance was strong enough. She doesn't clock it as different from any other boyfriend and said he was just a kind, bookish guy like the rest. No daddy dynamic and that's it. On the other hand I know a woman who was sexually abused throughout childhood and is clearly attracted to much older men. She married a man 19 years her senior and is very unhappy. In her mid 30s he's an old man who can't keep up. I once saw her hitting on a 60 year old man very obviously. The man was handsome for 60, I'll give her that, but it was sad. Good or bad reasons, I think the age difference becomes a bigger problem the older you get, not less. A healthy 40 year old can keep up with a 20 year old girl, but a 30 year old woman and a 50 year old man, not so much. And then 40 with 60 is especially rough. >>84406711That's a great and honest post femanon. I wish you the best.
>>84406743>Youthful appearance only ever means anything if the youth in question was hot.I'm surprised you still look youthful at 37. Are you skinny fat? Most of us have hollow cheeks at this age due to collagen collapsing
>>84405285I am into tall men who look good. If they are 10, 15 or 20 years older it doesnt matter to me. I am tall myself btw
>>84405340>He told me shit like "you owe me a hug"Red flag.>"get that hood of your head" (I'm muslim).Perhaps he got the wrong impression of you from his previous interactions with muslim women? Many muslim women starts acting rather forward as soon as they are alone with a man.
Hello. I am a 40 year old man. Stay away from me zoometts. Keep your tight young pussy away from me. Stop trying to chat with me just because I know about a lot of different things and can talk to you about things that aren't roblox. Please don't try and have sex with me just because I'm experienced and know what I'm doing.
>>84408183>Good or bad reasons, I think the age difference becomes a bigger problem the older you get, not less. A healthy 40 year old can keep up with a 20 year old girl, but a 30 year old woman and a 50 year old man, not so much. And then 40 with 60 is especially rough.brutal. I tried to explain this to my female friend and she denied it.
>>84408482Why in the world would he think its appropriate to tell me to take of my hijab? I was so taken aback by it. It didnt even feel like he really wanted to say it as a piece of advice but rather as to look at me (which I dont like)Why the fuck was he so entitled. Makes me incredibly furious. This is one of the reasons I like yo wear my hijab, so that random strange men leave me the fuck alone. Just leave me alone. I dont like men, not because I am one of the "kill all men" types but because most men are just retards and weird. Which reminds me of one of my coworkers. I was talking to him, you know, like people normally do. I dont know, but I think he has grown fond of me. All the sudden he starts saying shit that made me think like "tf is this guy on about" but u didnt say anything because I wanted to remain polite. Was he flirting? Was i flirting? What counts as flirting? I try to be kind and energetic towards people (though Its draining and uncomfortable most of the time) I generally dont talk to people, and i havent talked to any guy romantically, nor has any guy shown much interest towards me so i have no clue. Intimacy and men and the thought of interacting with people romantically is very foreign to me. Id rather stay out of it all for now (lowkey getting old though)
>>84408995>Why in the world would he think its appropriate to tell me to take of my hijab?For the same reason he claimed you owe him a hug: he can't read women.He sees Chad behave like that towards women Chad can tell is interested and will respond positively to that behavior. He thinks that the behavior is what makes women interested in Chad. He therefore copies it.>This is one of the reasons I like yo wear my hijab, so that random strange men leave me the fuck alone.Your hijab may have had the opposite effect on him, especially if you were alone with him.>Was he flirting?Probably.>Was i flirting?He may have interpreted you being nice as flirting. He may interpret you suddenly going cold as you playing hard to get in order to seduce him.>What counts as flirting?Everything and nothing. The boomers burned the rule book.>nor has any guy shown much interest towards meYou may have had guys show interest without you noticing. I didn't register that a woman was interested in me, unless she told me, before my mid twenties. I look at old pictures and cringe that I didn't read the obvious signs.
>>84409195I dont even think it was a chad think. Old geezers tend to be this way. Very weird and try to be fatherly and parental yet try to frame it in a romantic, eveb explotative way.>Your hijab may have had the opposite effect on him, especially if you were alone with him.How? Litteraly how? I was mostly alone with him, and I got exited to see him because I get happy when I recognize customers. There are many other customers, some of which are old men, that i like(d) even more than him and I get even more exited.But tell me, how can the hijab have an opposite effect?
>>84405920i don't like the anime protagonist hair, and it looks even worse on a man over 25; but other than that, yum.
>>84409323>But tell me, how can the hijab have an opposite effect?1. Someone pushed, at least online, to sexualize the hijab in the West after 9/11. The most charitable motivation I can think of is that this was done to prevent men from becoming too bigoted against Muslims. You can probably imagine darker possible motivates yourself.2. He may have had experience with a hijab-wearing woman who acted innocent but tried to have sex with him as soon as she was alone with him. He generalized this one experience to all women in hijab, regardless of the woman's cultural background.3. In certain feminist and egalitarian circles, going after a girl in hijab is seen as rescuing and liberating her. He may think he will be a hero if he "saves you." Think of the stories about muslim women being forced by her parents to marry an abuse husband.
>>84409564>Someone pushed, at least online, to sexualize the hijab in the West after 9/11. >You can probably imagine darker possible motivates yourself.To dehumanize muslims/arabs to the point thay they are basically free game? (Maybe thays why the americans raped so many women in iraq?)>point 3.This. Youre on the spot here. I cannot tell you how many times I experience this time of behaviour. I didnt want to dance in prom and the teachers wanted to call CPS because they thought my dad was abusive and forced me to not dance with a boy. Girls in school used to tell me I should take it off and that im "free" and that I should feel comfortable with showing myself. I remember vividly that they used to encourage me to shower with em in the gym locker room multiple times and I was incredibly weirded out.Its all so stupid and tragic, I know that some women indeed get abused, but ita outrageous that they make that into an excuse to be pushy, and sometimes predatory towards women who wear hijab.I think point 1 and 3 were probably the case with him. Now on the topic of sexualizing hijab, do some people take it as a form of "acting hard to get"? Or "teasing"?>tried to have sex with him as soon as she was alone with him. I have a hard time believing that people genuinely just sleep with eachother just like that. Oh my god this gay retard world...
>>84409629>(Maybe thays why the americans raped so many women in iraq?)I fear that some men signed up to go to Iraq because of that propaganda push, and that this was connected to some of the rape cases.>Now on the topic of sexualizing hijab, do some people take it as a form of "acting hard to get"? Or "teasing"?Even I, a Christian westerner familiar with the hijab's connection to modesty, didn't think to connect the hijab to "hard to get". To a secular westerner, I *think* the association is more "exotic", "in need of liberation", "doormat", etc. Someone influenced by the hijab-sexualization campaign may view the hijab as teasing, and even associate it with pornographic content.>I have a hard time believing that people genuinely just sleep with eachother just like that.People do, especially here in the West where Christendom's cultural defenses against whoredom were torn down. People will even have sex before telling each other what their names are.As far as I understand, some Muslim cultures have a man and a woman being alone in a room as almost synonymous with them having sex, unless they are related. Those cultures therefore prevent unrelated women and men from being alone with each other. Now move someone from that culture to the West, and have them wish to embrace degeneracy.>this gay retard world...I think we have passed peak degeneracy now. If I'm right, things will get better in the short term.Time to sleep. It was nice talking to you.
>>84405285i assume by older they just mean someone who looks more mature and less boyish
>>84410088No it's me. I'm 60. how are you
>>84405285currently dating an older robot but hes mid 30s and i'm late teens. i don't have a preference towards older men we just get along, it would be despite the age gap than for it(hoping he doesn't specifically have a preference for younger women) chin stubble, being chubby or beer bellies are pretty nice tho. he is boyish in terms of being shy, awkward, and cute.
I assume the majority of women or the extremely young ones pick older male figures who are role models they can't realistically pursue or reciprocate their affections as a safe way of exploring romance at a young age. otherwise women are going for guys who looks like dads due to daddy issues(if you find that uncomfortable, they'll likely grow out of it as they get older)>boyish featuresdon't think so, why not go for someone actually boyish instead
im 40 and I cant believe how many hot college girls ive fucked in the last three years they love older men who treat them with a little respect punctuated with moments of blatant degradation
