The worst part of being smart (~140 IQ) is not how stupid the average person is but how little interest or important they place on truth or understanding.
>>84412013Is the score from an IRL test administered by a psychiatrist or did you get it from some pajeet online test?>inb4 mensa
>>84412025I got one went I was really young (Grade 4) from a proctor among a bunch of other things to see if I qualifed for the 'gifted program'. When I take online tests I consistently get a score of around 140 though it has gone down from depression since it makes you retarded and up when I take amphetamines.That being said I don't think IQ is a perfect measure of intellgience.
The real blackpill is the willful ignorance and oddly sadistic delight in it. Some people seem to deeply enjoy deliberately rebuking what they know is truthful. Seems like a power thing. Black stain on human nature.
Someone that believes in IQ has no notion of what understanding means. It's no wonder they get shunned as people with nothing of interest to say
i got mensa verified and couldnt give less of a shit about truth or understanding or whatever other shallow brain jerk gooning. the only use for my gigabrain are my complex giga autistic niche hobbies
>>84412013Imagine being "smart" but actually being stupid. If you're so smart, just trick people into believing the truth.
>akshully I'm very intelligent and everyone else is basically fucking stupid heh >:)Ironically every retard online seems to hold this opinion.
>>84412013No, that's just being a little bitchGrow a pair and get a phd and meet people who "give a shit".
i'm 130 and i don't give two fucks about truth, i just like sperging out about grammar and computers
>>84412013They have interest in the same things you do. They just don't want to sit there and listen to you go on and on and on and attack anyone who disagrees with you and call everyone stupid and sperg the fuck out. If you want to be the source of truth in a room full of educated people go be a professor.
>>84412013Alot of triggered ego defense mechanisms ITT. Doesn't that just prove my point?
>>84414724Why not reply to those people?
>>84412013>eden's gardenI still can't fucking believe they canceled this shit due to the most retarded discord drama ever
>>84414936I didn't?Anyways it's not a big deal it just sucks that most people are suceptible to emotional and ideological reasoning without being able to distinguish it why can't everyone be an INTJ autist like me sigh...
>>84414951youre one of those autists that have a difficult time putting their thoughts into words right
>>84414961No quite the contrary. I am one of those alledged autists who express or feel basically zero emotions whatsoever. I would not consider myself extremely literary I prefer using dense vocabulary with alot of pointers rather than being descriptive.
>140 IQ>importantGTFO larping faggot
>>84414951>are suceptible to emotional and ideological reasoningMost people's entire world view is based around common sense assumptions or shit they were told and didn't give too much. Having that put through scientific rigor shatters their whole entire world apart
As a fellow 140+ IQ autist what's your take on drinking? I feel like the next day brainfog conflicts with my identity to a rather dysphoric extent but while drunk I enjoy it immensely so I'm having a hard time incorporating it into my life with any degree of moderation, I don't want to be one of those guys who has a problem with drinking and has to abstain entirely but it seems like an all or nothing type of thing, I just went 14 months sober and broke sobriety on 4/20 because my mom came to visit and it's always an interesting near-psychedelic experience because it happens so seldom but I'm a little unnerved by the supposed neurotoxic effects that ChatGPT annoyingly emphasizes
>>84414977>who express or feel basically zero emotions whatsoever.I didn't even know that was possible. I thought with autism you basically felt your emotions more intensely
>>84415031That's true he's just an 18 year old infant who thinks being le Patrick Bateman sociopath is cool still
>>84415018I dunno its not something I think about alot it's not a topic I would consider 'interesting' by my standards there's pretty much not much to say that everyone doesn't know already. It feels great, antidepressant antianxiety but it will slowly kill you, I am rather biased against it because I come from a family of alcoholics like my uncle recently drank himself to death mid 40s it's poison that makes you feel good.The only thing I can say is that I think you should do amphetamines or pharmaceutical drugs instead. Alcohol is definitely neurotoxic, kills your liver and I mean its categorized as a poison it's not BS and it's probably the most well documented drug in history. That being said weed is probably worse.Idk what to say except that everything that is commonly understood about it is true. I think quitting or understanding alcohol addiction is much more interesting however.
>>84415051>it's not a topic I would consider 'interesting' by my standardsThen don't say anything douchebag, like I care about what you find interesting
>>84415031>>84415033Well technically this other anon is true since I just feel numb most of the time which is just low grade anger. It makes sense since the adjacent emotions being dismissive annoyed etc are pretty much my constant experience so its less appropriate technically to say I dont feel emotion but that I am stunted and have a significantly lower spectrum of emotions on average. I dont think myself above emotions or anything I know Im suceptible to emotional reasoning cognitive distortion etc at leasf Im conscious of it though. I do not idealize this state of existence, my pain at times is constant and sharp.
>>84415051>you should do amphetamines or pharmaceutical drugs insteadWhat's better Vyvanse or Adderall XR, I'm currently on 70 mg Vyvanse, I used to be on Adderall XR but that was like 12 years ago so I barely remember what it was like, I just recall finding it difficult to crush up the beads and abuse it via insufflation so I switched to Vyvanse because I found the psychiatrist much more receptive to titrating up to the max dose with that, psychs were pushing Vyvanse pretty heavily back in the early to mid 2010s
>>84412013I think it's more a byproduct of anti-intellectualism in the modern era than it is a marker of intelligence. I've known plenty of interesting, curious, and well-spoken IQ-lets and plenty of insufferable "high IQ" losers. You don't have to be particularly intelligent to be drawn toward interesting problems.
>>84415083I prefer vyvanse because it hits harder and more instantly but dexedrine the shortest acting one is the best anyways. Vyvanse is the easiest one to abuse like a methhead because of the way it stays in your system if you're taking 10 pills and causes the most psychotic breaks. You can get a mortal and pestle to snort adderall to crush up the little plastic beads and access the amphetamine salts but I don't recommend it because you're snorting plastic anyways and snorting in general is cringe because it will fuck up your nose.I think what you want is a prescription for dexedrine instead.
>>84415051>uncle recently drank himself to deathAnd in typical fashion the guy who has nothing but negative things to say about alcohol invariably carries a shitload of emotional baggage about it because his retarded relatives never learned the principle of selective temperance
>>84415077what youre describing feels like what i felt when i took buproprion and had an anhedonia episode
>>84415083>>84415113you cant abuse vyvanse its not really possible
>>84412013I wish that pic happened to me.
>>84415124Most people can drink fine without problems but there are alcholics and people with certain genetic predispositions, or psychological states for whom it is essential all or nothing as in they will be sober or they will be alcoholic. Many studies back this up, granted there is a degree of individual choice and agency involved but it's not just for many people and I think calling it a moral failing is pointless and reductionist, not that it's entirely false.
>>84415137Sounds like something somebody who's never had a Vyvanse prescription would say, I routinely go through the entire bottle of 70 mg capsules within a week because you can compound the high by just reupping every two hours
>>84415137You can definitely abuse Vyvanse I don't know what you're talking about in fact Vyvanse and dextroamphetamine are the two most commonly abused amphetamines by far. Just take 10 at once and it's a good comparison to taking a hit of crystal meth and not sleeping for 72 hours.
>>84415157vyvanse is a prodrug that uses your red blood cells to synthetize dextroamphetamine the amount of dextroamphetamine produced is capped by your own amount of red blood cells
>>84415168no it is not because with vyvanse if you take 10 70 mg cps that doesn't mean your body will be able to convert all of that into 700mg or dextro after a certain mg the effects of the drug raise logarithmically
>>84415183Yeah I too have access to basic google abstracts, doesn't translate to an intimate understanding of how the drug actually interacts with your body
>>84415124>person with familial anecdotes of loved ones dying from literal poison has negative impression of said poisonare you also 140 iq to figure that out, babe?
>>84415702Cry more sorry about your dead peepaw who couldn't put the bottle down
>>84415183Well then clearly you just need to make more blood. Take the drugs and hook up an IV of young blood you raided from either a blood bank in a nice area or your youngest male relative, problem solved. Thank god we have any only geniuses itt or else this would have been an unsolved problem.
>>84415709my pawpaw is dead but that would be because he couldnt put the fork down. cant comprehend someone can respond to you in defense of another anon without having a personal stake in the manner? my, look at that ego bruise on you. must be 141 iq at least.
>>84415718Here's some provisional proof, try again and stay buttmad
>>84415718It's not a matter of lack of comprehension it's a matter of likelihood retard but yeah I wouldn't expect a midwit like you to grasp that immediately
>>84412013I would probably have >120 points of IQ if I didn't go through so many things that fucked my brain up. It really makes me sad to think about what I could've been, but I'm just a midwit with memory problems now. I'm jealous of you.
>>84415910Copium IQ is largely immutable unless you have like severe CTE, you were always doomed to be a midwit by genetic fate, DOOMED
>>84415728Not that anon, but that test is REALLY bad. It's just simple logic and pattern recognition, and it's made so people feel tempted to go and try a real IQ assessment by those Mensa guys. Even if this were a real image, this literally only proves you're good at pattern recognition, which chimpanzees can also do pretty decently.This kind of comment is exactly why you can't really take IQ tests seriously. I've had research teams where everyone is able to do complex math in their heads, would score really high in IQ tests, but they couldn't figure out how to use a microwave, drive a car or learn a language as basic as English. Get a grip.
>>84412013I think most people completely missed the point of my post. What bothers me is that this world has an abundance of intelligence people in the sense of IQ - sharp pattern recognition, linguistic comfort, ability to comprehend complicated things - but dislike the fact that it is woefully underused in favor of ideological or emotional reasoning, or just misused in confirmation bias using their vast pattern recognition to find patterns that validate their pre-existing theories. Or more simply, they probably just don't don't care that much about being right or correct.There are three types of motivation and neurological wiring in humans those motivated primarily by dopamine, oxytocin or testosterone. I think that this is a much better predictor of whether someone turns out an erudite than their raw capacity for pattern recognition. (Testestrone-focused neurologies)
>>84415934Intelligence can definitely change I have no idea what you're talking about, depression lowers brain activity by up to 30% and nuking your brain on drugs like alcohol definitely can also do that.
>>84416049The brain has a remarkably plastic ability to reconstitute itself after injury, after cessation of alcohol intake the brain largely restores itself within three months or so depending on how old you are so i don't buy this doomer cope that muh brain don't work no good anymore because I had one too many boozahols in my early 20s, you were always an idiot and this is a classic excuse for idiocy in adulthood that suggests there some kind of innate, dormant ability that you simply can't access anymore
>>84416390*there's originally
>>84415934>Copium IQ is largely immutableI didn't say my IQ changed, dumbass. It wasn't developed at its full potential because I've been through some certain health issues through my entire life.
>>84412013>how little interest or important they placeMinor spelling error. You lose. Kekekekkekkekekkekkek. >>84416038>intelligence peopleWhat are intelligence people? Are they intelligent?>dopamine, oxytocin or testosterone.Are you fucking British?>but dislike the fact Who dislike the fact? You dislike fact? The world dislike fact? Me dislike fact? Huh?>ideological or emotional reasoning, or just misused in confirmation bias using their vast pattern recognition to find patterns that validate their pre-existing theories.It's true. IQ is wasted on unwise geniuses with no epistemic humility.>Or more simply, they probably just don't don't care that much about being right or correct. So... then they technically do care that much about being right or correct?But I know what you mean. IQ is just a measure of how well you can use facts to defend their feelings on things. People forget that those with high IQs aren't immune to fallacies and biases just because they have pattern recognition. >There are three types of motivation and neurological wiring in humans those motivated primarily by dopamine, oxytocin or testosterone. I think that this is a much better predictor of whether someone turns out an erudite than their raw capacity for pattern recognition. (Testestrone-focused neurologies)Is this true? Women have less testosterone, yet they are more successful and abundant in college. Are they more often motivated by T despite having less of it?
>>84416390Yes the brain is resistant to injury but it's just objective scientific reality that chronic alcohol abuse will kill your braincells. The brain has a remarkable capacity in reorganizing your braincells and forming new synaptic connections but braincells that are lost are lost forever, but yes the brain is surprisingly plastic doesn't change the fact that alcohol is objectively terrible for your brain especially if your brain is still developing. Weed is even worse however.
>Anon has gigabrain>Just use it to create hyperrealistic AI loli porn videos
>>84416778>Is this true? Women have less testosterone, yet they are more successful and abundant in college. Are they more often motivated by T despite having less of it?The way testosterone functions in the brain is different from how it behaves as an androgen. Women have testosterone too it is a crucial neurotransmitters just as men have estrogen (a fact Clavicular found out the hard way when he took estrogen blockers which ironically made him infertile kek).Everyone has all three, but which is the dominant and most likely to be released under social circumstances is a good predictor for personality from the studie I have seen. Oxytocin heavy people tend to get attached easier, dopamine heavy people tend to chase highs and lows and testosterones function as a neurotransmitters is harder to see but it makes sense when you read up on it and seems to create satisfaction in rigidity and obligations.And yes women are more successful in college and schools but to be frank I would hardly consider most programs in modern colleges to be a place of chasing erudition rather than a practical institution providing training and certification. Women probably do better in general because they are better at confirming to social norms think is a common explanation from most sociology I have read, not to say women are less intelligent. My point is less to do with intelligence but how it is directed. The modern world has an abundance of intelligence in the IQ pattern recognition and intellectual confidence sense. It is however largely undirected and squandered in my opinion.
>>84416901>And yes women are more successful in college and schools but to be frank I would hardly consider most programs in modern colleges to be a place of chasing erudition rather than a practical institution providing training and certification. Women probably do better in general because they are better at confirming to social norms think is a common explanation from most sociology I have read, not to say women are less intelligent.Women tend to be better at sitting still and participating in rote memorization tasks, which makes the "education system" ideal for them.
>>84416834>after cessation>chronicISHYGDDT
>>84416901>The way testosterone functions in the brain is different from how it behaves as an androgen.You could be lying to me. I don't know much about neuroscience, but it also seems to make sense from google.>it is a crucial neurotransmittersIt's a steroid though? It just fucks with the neurotransmitters.>Everyone has all three, but which is the dominant and most likely to be released under social circumstances is a good predictor for personality from the studie I have seenBruh. Kek. The humorists were onto something. The four humors are making a comeback. >testosterones function as a neurotransmitters Like the testosterone people function period? And that's a new sentence starting from "as"?>And yes women are more successful in college and schools but to be frank I would hardly consider most programs in modern colleges to be a place of chasing erudition rather than a practical institution providing training and certification.Makes sense. But you can definitely use college for that if you have the funds or sit in. >Women probably do better in general because they are better at confirming to social norms think is a common explanation from most sociology I have read, not to say women are less intelligent. That's definitely a possible explaination. And I never thought you were saying women were less intelligent. I thought you were saying that testosterone is a better indicator of becoming well educated and academic. "Eurdite" was the word you used. Though you were talking about brain types, rather than just presence of T, I presume? So more T in body != better learning and wisdom attainment automatically. I'm not actually sure what you're saying. But if it's literally like "people's personalities are determined by the balance of neurotransmitters in their brain and we just gotta balance the substances" that's very funny if true.>My point is less to do with intelligence but how it is directed.I'm with you on this point for sure.
IQ tests aren't accurate on an individual level, only very roughly as a group. Sorry OP. You can study for IQ tests, they only measure random knowledge vs baseline. It's especially inaccurate if you don't get retested yearly, just because someone studied hard in grade school doesn't mean they can keep up with complex concepts beyond generic math and shape matching.The better ways to measure actual intelligence become increasingly difficult to standardize and also to match to different age/race groupings.There is one fairly decent litmus test for knowing you're definitely below 110IQ though - believing an online IQ test you took.
>>84413414>>84412398You fags will say this shit and then have a full sperg meltdown if I get a factoid wrong about your niche hobby or whatever.You do care about the truth. You just don't get it yet.