What is your life like these days 30+ bros?
>>84434403regular scarlett
The fuck why the want to kill Donald Trump so badly?
>>84434403Better than it was 6 months ago but could still be better, I feel much more "under construction" than I ever did in my 20s or teens.
>>84434403I yearn for the cold embrace of death.
>>84434403Miserable. Waking up each day is a disappointment.
>>84434403eat, shit, sleep, wake up, eat, shit, sleep... in short, life's amazing.
>>84434403I wish I was older, way older. Like 50+. You get that old and you don't give a fuck and youre too old for people to care or take you seriously. Shit your pants in public? "Poor old man." Scream at a minimum wage nigger? "What a grump, all well." Be a creep to hot young woman? "He's just senile."
Anxiety and depression getting worse. Have picked up cutting again after being free from it for years. Been talking to a therapist and nurses at the psychiatric department at the hospital for 6 months now and feel more suicidal than ever.My only wish right now is hoping to find enough courage to slice deep enough so I can pass out for good.
>>84434452When youre young you have all these worries and hopes and dreams and expectations and goals and priorities when youre old you just smell your farts to get a taste of the heaven of nothingness that soon awaits.
>What is your life like these days 30+ bros?NEET for over 7,000 days. Embraced the hermit life.Everyone who loved me has been dead for years. I binge drink cases of beer every couple of weeks. I just want to have unpaid sex before the sweet release of death, hopefully long before I hit 60.
>>84434403I sit on my couch all day listening to music or watching movies while getting high. I am not suicidal, i'm pretty lucky to have life on easy mode.
Being in a well paid jobs, traveling the world, having sex with zoomettes, it's pretty good.
>>84434403Plan on killing myself some time in between October and January of this/next year when the money runs out. I have 0 desire to keep going and struggling. Every chance i had at making it out was denied to me. When I die, and before God sends me to Hell, I will spit in his face before he casts me down.
>>84434517Don't worry there is no god its just going to be like before you were born for bajillions of years until "you" (your conscious experience) gets re atomized and you live through your entire life all over again because youre stuck in a pre determined time loop
>>84434517don't forget to prepare a manifesto explaining why you had to commit a massacre-suicide because there wasn't enough gibs for people like you. do it for the sake of your brothers who've yet to log out.
its alright I can afford anything everI choose to be a shut in
>>84434542crypto early adopter?
>>84434546I'm a billionaire
>Elon attention whoring on /r9k/ againFuck off dude you're not an incel
>>84434553idc about that. that wasn't what i asked.
>>84434565Goy>>84434573Goy
>>84434403>Wake up at 7am>Go to work after being stuck in traffic commute>Sit there for 9 hours listening to normies talk about partying, sex, drugs and Netflix shows>Go home at 5pm>Get stuck in traffic again>Cook food>Sit down finally maybe it's 7pm and browse the internet maybe play a video game>Get in bed for 11pm>Repeat for 15 yearsYou have my life right there. No friends or anything, I lost all those after high school.
>>84434403I just consume slop and edge on adderall
>>84434579If it's any consolation I'm stuck in an identical simulation loop as you. Don't know how to cope with it either.
31. Married now. Just got a promotion at work. Things looking up. Wife is thinking about getting a new job or quitting her current one. Will have kids next year maybe.
>>84434610>Don't know how to cope with it either.Sucks doesn't it? I've been thinking lately, a lot of the people I knew who have had relationships found them in school or college. I dont know anyone who got together with a coworker after 30. I do need to probably start doing more things outside of work but I just dont see how I am meant to. My Mon-Fri is spoken for more or less. I suppose the weekends are my best chances. But I use them to catch up on house work or do chores like grocery shopping. And honestly, I like to relax on the weekend after dealing with normies in the office all week. I dont know the answer.
>>84434625>he doesn't realize this is all by designYou are victim to a malevolence that has evaded your awareness
stay frosty bros
>>84434428>The fuck why the want to kill Donald Trump so badly?It's probably fake/a set up.
>>84434639>You are victim to a malevolence that has evaded your awarenessI dont know about that. I think some people are just quicker to the mark in being 'normal'. Like it took me ages to come out of my shell and be normal and not hide from society. What I did at maybe 28 before I had self actualisation, kids had done at 14 when they were fucking other girls and playing for the sports team. We're just behind.
>>84434452Doesn't help. You still have feels. I was married for a long time, she died last month. I used to be Chad. I'm not putting up with women's bullshit, especially if they're anywhere near my age. I'm gonna go buy the toys I always wanted and go have fun, but I guess I'll be doing it alone. It still feels empty, but I refuse to beg people to be my friends or women to like me.
>>84434403Work from home arrangement is pretty flexible, as long as I get my stuff for the biweekly meetings done they dont really care how/when I work. Aside from that its treating MMOs like singleplayer games and daydrinking homemade wine
>>84434625The problem is that our brains doesn't work like normies. For a normie (that has relationships, gf, etc) meeting people is their way of relaxing. We were never meant to make it in current society.
>>84435077In rome we were called the senate
>Forced on witness protection as an epstein cover-up. Just work on what i can and hang out with the kids. ready to go back to work when i come off witness protection
>>84434535Good luck to the next fucker who gets this then I guess.>>84434536>GibsYou fucking wish. I just stopped caring about playing a game I've never had an interest in playing.
i'm gonna be so fucking depressed when i finish pragmata
>>84435263Not that I care (I dont) but why that time frame? I knew a jeet back in 2011 that killed himself on his moms birthday lol
Really great. Got a good wife, a cute son, good job, I'm deeply invested in my hobbies, and my home improvement projects have been highly successful.
>>84435272Is it good? No, I don't want to have kids.
>>84435319>Really great. Got a good wife, a cute son, good job, I'm deeply invested in my hobbies, and my home improvement projects have been highly successful.If so, why are you still on here? Not that I have anything against it, it's just that everything about this board as a whole is negative and demotivating.
>>84435365do you want a youngshit sims tote? i'm having the time of my life. i don't care if it's a game
>>84435373Been here since 2009, I float between boards and like to see what's going on, and hey, if a 5'7 35 year old man can help break the echo chamber circle jerk of self pity for a few guys then I'll take that as a win.
Turn 38 next month and I've never felt less hope for the future, especially with all this digital ID bullshit that's coming.
>>84435319Good to hear anon. I try to be a better person and feel joy for other peoples fortune. I try not to be one of the bitter incels posting about their intimate lives on social media. But it does hurt.
>>84435305That's what the math equals out to. If I lost it all tomorrow I'd kms end of May as that'swhen services, bills, etc would be overdue.
>>84435305>>84435515Math of savings *
>>84434579>>84434610What do you do at the weekend? Any hobbies besides browsing and video games?
>>84434993>day drinking homemade wineExtremely based. Do you do it yourself?
>>84434403i can now legally post in these threads. also where can i pickup my wizard powers?
>>84436689There's a genie at the top of the goat tower that helps you pick a power.
Turnes 37 this month, still nothing I'm looking forward to, yet I think that's not necessarily bad. I'm trying not to care about the future and enjoy my daily life.I don't really like the current state of technology and if things were soulless before AI is going to bring everyone to a whole new level of shitty. I don't enjoy my programming job anymore and I'm working a collection of book, games, music, movies and tv shows the hit the switch and reduce my technology use to the bare minimum.Also getting old and seeing everyone drift away sucks.
>>84434403brokelonelycompoundingly getting worse
Just got a nice raise. Making 105k/yr. Married a hottie who is a committed stay at home mom. Child is healthy and energetic. I still feel empty. Might be cause work is unfulfilling and we are house hunting. >>84436689>i can now legally post in these threadsit hurts me that 1996ers are turning 30. I'm 32 and still feels like I'm 25. I always look at you guys as younger because...you're younger than me.
>>84434403I'm waiting for my parents to die so I can off myself. Why would I want to keep living working a dead end job and having no friends, gf, or real human experiences? It's just a pointless existence it's not even a life.
>>84434403>35>finished college diploma 2 weeks ago>looking for work>will probably never be able to land computer programming job>time and money spent in school was a wasteThe only thing keeping me going for now is day-drinking and playing Street Fighter 6 and Marathon. Most likely going to to apply for assisted suicide in March of next year. I think I tried the best that I could, but I just don't fit in. To those of you still able to charge ahead in life, I genuinely wish you all the best.
>>84434613Keep up the good work.>>84434403Just got a day off after 2 weeks of extra long hours. It should being raining here within the next hour. Might go out and stand in the grass barefoot and just soak up the rain for a while.
>>84434403losing hope in my efforts of finding someone.seems very unlikely. i need to find someone who will accept me despite my physical defects. that rules out dating apps and online places like /soc/ aren't much better in regards to people only caring about satisfying their physical needs. my strategy is finding someone who accepts talking first online, but even that seems like a crapshoot because people just are so different talking to them is like pulling teeth or as if you speak a different language or you're from another planet.
>>84436864You got your diploma 2 weeks ago anon, it you like programming then go for it and keep trying. Why are you even thinking about offing yourself?
I had been feeling better since last Christmas. I'm sure that from January for March I didn't felt depressed once. But it was just an illusion. I've been keeping myself busy with my job, reading, working out, cooking and praying video games but all of this is bullshit, escapism. None of this amonts to anything and every time I got to sleep and close my eyes I know that it's only a matter of time I start feeling like shit again. That time was a couple of weeks ago.
>>84436677>Do you do it yourself?Well no, technically its hooch since its not grapes. Whatever fruit the piggly wiggly down the hill sells on a clearence discount + yeat + sugar if neededMy next two vats are cherry and blueberry
>>84435263come on, you've already lived like a selfish coward all your life. at least do one selfless brave act before you go out.
Turning 30 in less than a month. This thread really reinforces how doomed I am. All the anons here are either married and gainfully employed or complete and total perma NEETs. There is no middle ground at this age. If I haven't found my way by this point, I never will.
>>84437901but have you tried taking a shower?
>>84437917Showering is the one thing I haven't given up on yet. Maybe I should just go full degen and stop doing even that.
On my way to 46.Doubt robot-wives will happen in my lifetime but at least AI-software hooked to sexdolls seems promising for the next 5~8 years at most. Hope I will be able to get one while I can still get it up so I can at least experience something similar to having sex.As for the rest of my life I guess I'm just chilling. Even if NEET, no social life, and obviously no money I still got a place of my own to stay. If being poo is the price I have to pay for being able to not work a single day in my life I'm really not going to complain all things considered.
buying vidya pretty good
>>84437901if it helps I only started hitting the gym and going to college at 30. lost my virginity 6 months after that, went psycho for a while because the girl I was dating was a pain in the ass but I really wanted the sex, then realized sex really wasn't all that special and now that I'm 31 i just wanna focus on myself and working on my game while I grind college and get the dumb paper while at the same time avoiding all the dumb college girls just really hitting on me to uncomfortable levels because despite my loner nature i'm trying to practice on being more social while remaining true to my autistic self and they really seem to like that though at the same time they'll fuck just about any gorilla nigger but with me it's always with strings attached
>>84438316Thanks anon, this actually does help a little. Still think I'm doomed but maybe not
Turning 35 soon. I had a weird experience about a month ago. I went on holiday solo for the first time ever, a hiking holiday. No expectations really, I was kind of in a manic mood. The first few days were depressing, I just walked around this big city alone, my feet were aching, blistered, and I had to book a new hotel since the place I was initially staying (cheapest place I could find) was scarily shit-tier. Anyway on the third day I catch a bus to where this hike starts. Don't speak to anybody, feeling depressed as fuck and completely unmotivated. Considered cutting the entire thing short but I'd already booked a couple of rooms along the route and my flight back. Whatever.First day I get totally lost, my feet are wrecked, and I spent the night in a shit-tier tent which is covered in condensation. Laid there thinking I could die any day soon and wouldn't care, it was kind of freeing. Next day I'm hiking and there's this girl ahead of me along the narrow path. I don't want to freak her out so I hang back and wait until there's open space again and then speedwalk past her with a small elevation between us so she doesn't notice me. Keep walking and finally make it into town.1/2
>>84434403Oh man, where to start?>32 >got my bachelors while working for the PO two years ago>apply to places around me>now I am too overqualified >live in small town so there is not much>apply outside the country >rejections galore>keep applying and fixing up my resume as I go>rejections>fix it up more and maybe a little lie here and there>rejections >feel like I am in a rut and want to leave asap>i need a win but all i keep getting is rejections>all the while dealing with nonstop work and a death in the familyIm not sure how much more I can take.
>>84438415Shit, I forgot to say. Earlier this second day of hiking, literally 15 minutes after I start, there's this girl standing there where the trail begins. She calls me over and says she doesn't know which way to go. I look at the footprints and suggest the way, and say I'll go first. We chat for a short while, and she asks what I know about her country. I kind of facetiously say the name of a doomer-tier writer from that country who isn't known much outside of it. She is surprised, turns out she's from the same town as he was and has visited his museum-house, likes his books, etc. About a minute later her male "friend" turns up and I wish them well and leave.I get into town and I have this room booked. Turns out I have this entire house to myself since I was the only one who booked a room, it being off-season. Nice. Wash my clothing, rest my feet. Then I get hungry. Usually I'd just go to the store and buy some shit-tier food to eat alone, but I figure I'll try and overcome my autism and go to a restaurant alone. I find a nice-looking place online and walk there. It's empty. Or at least seems to be. The owner leads me to a table and there's another person there. A girl sitting alone.2/?
>>84438451Not to be autistic, and feeling kind of high on the adrenaline of eating out alone, I turn towards her briefly and make a walking motion with my fingers as if to say "are you hiking this trail too?". She nods. I go to turn back to my table and she asks me if I am too, and we talk for a while across the restaurant. I say to her "don't let your food go cold because of me" and she shakes her head and asks if she should come over to my table. Wtf, uhhh. I say I'll go to her since my table is small.She turns out to be much younger than me, although we don't trade ages and I guess I look younger than I am. She's probably 22/23, so I feel creepy generally speaking. Anyway we talked for a long time, had weird things in common (childhood nickname being one, like wtf). I don't think of flirting or offering her a drink, and after a while I get a little autistic with my answers, probably because I'm nervous and to kind of hide my lack of self-esteem. Sometimes I answer a question and stop myself but she looks at me wide-eyed and says "no, go on!". It felt so nice for her to show interest me in like that, just in a human way. But eventually other diners arrive, and we've just talked for like two hours after finishing our food, and she says "should we go?". The owner comes over and rubs her shoulders as if to say "wow, you guys are going together huh!" but she crosses her arms as we walk back into town and I awkwardly revert to mr nice guy and awkwardly say stupid shit and smile a lot, and we part ways. It felt like a bad first date in retrospect, but I'm grateful for the interest she showed in me, it was a rare feeling for me.After a couple of days hiking I get bored and my feet are torn apart. I decide to drop out of the route and book a bus to a city between that town and the airport where my flight departs in a few days.3/?
>>84436864>Most likely going to to apply for assisted suicide in March of next year.quit being a faggot. if you don't even have a horrible disease then at 35 this is just stupid.
I turn 32 this year, went through the typical transitional anxiety upon turning 30 and went 14 months sober in the pursuit of IQmaxxing but on 4/20 I decided to have 9 drinks because of some meme chart that suggested an alcohol megadose had mild nootropic effects and I was getting sick of the larp anyway so I was like fuck it being the teetotaler monk only has a novelty that lasts so long, overall I feel pretty good because that surge of aging paranoia sort of galvanized me into saturating my life in a shitload of autistic structure that now grants me immense comfort
>>84438520>an alcohol megadose>9 drinksHow is that a megadose?
>born in 1990 in East Europe>became a very good programmer>dropped the whole thing in 2012-13 due to leftist/sjw enshitification>restarted work in logistics>eventually connected the two>contractor in the field now>no direct boss>still live in Eastern Europe>make $150k (which adjusted for PPP is about double where I live)>learned to dodge taxes so my effective fiscal burden is in single digits>de facto wife haver>we traveled to ~100 countries by now>really work for about 3 months a year>enough savings not to have to work for 4 years at current expenses>kind of a degenerateLife's... comfy. I'll never be rich or great, but given the circumstances, I'm much better than hoped.
>>84438488At the bus stop there are some hippy looking people in their 20s probably. I kind of don't vibe with these kinds of free spirits generally speaking, although I try to make conversation with them against my usual tendencies, but they aren't interested in talking. Strangely I don't really care. I board the bus.On the bus beside me across the aisle are a young guy and girl, both hippies. The guy is a dreadlock type whose father is a wealthy doctor in south America, the girl is European and seems to have some kind of fucked up past but they're talking the entire journey about drugs, he is advocating them and talking about the subsconscious, and she is bringing up examples of people she knows whose brains are fried. A kind of humorous interaction which I overhear. I've always struggled with having any kind of solid identity, and it feels good to know that I'm just not the kind of person to care about that kind of lifestyle or perspective, if only because it makes me feel more solid as an individual.The bus pulls up at the station in this city. I have nowhere to stay, don't speak the language, and while this would have terrified me before I went on holiday, I'm already past caring and don't really worry at all. It's a very freeing feeling. As we're standing up to leave the bus, this old guy is trying to reach his backpack from the overhead shelf. The couple beside me are inpatient and just shove past him, as do one or two others. But I feel bad for the guy and extend my arm to communicate that he can take his time, even if I'm holding up the several people behind me. 4/?
>>84438532For a guy who just went 14 months without a drop of alcohol that's quite a lot, I would've preferred more obviously but that's all I had available in the camper I shared with my mom, she had offered for us to go out and get more booze but I didn't want to overdo it
>>84434993WoW, OSRS, or FFXIV?>>84435319well at least somebody here is happy>>84435374>youngshit sims totewtf does this mean? youngshit is usually a tranny term.>>84435373why does anyone do anything at all?>>84436859>I still feel empty.i don't have any of that (i do have a long-term gf that i might marry soon though) and i don't feel empty. you're def doing something wrong or there's something wrong with you if you have all of that and lack contentment.
>>84438437Lel imagine falling for the college scam, enjoy floundering sucker
>>84438541I get off the bus and this young blonde girl, dressed in a semi-hippie kind of way but who is clean and has a kind of elegance about her, shoves right past me as I'm waiting to get my backpack. She was obviously seated behind me in the bus. I get my backpack and walk across the street, and this girl follows me. I get out my phone for directions, and notice her standing there close to me in the corner of my eye. I get the feeling she is waiting for me to talk to her, since there's nothing on this side of the street. But I tense up and don't look at her, and after about a minute she walks away. Feelsbadman, but then again I am an aging robot with no game so what was I hoping for really.The next day I book another bus to the airport city. Again nowhere to stay, again don't give a fuck. I arrive there and book three nights in a medium-priced hotel. I'm spending more than I hoped, but whatever. First night I walk on blistered feet around the city looking for somewhere to eat solo, but I can't find anywhere I like and eventually find this supermarket near my hotel which is still open. Autistic habits, but whatever. I'll just eat alone in my room. In the supermarket I'm browsing an aisle and notice a girl looking at me. I turn to her briefly with my deer-in-the-headlights wide prey eyes and she looks at me kind of curiously.5/?
>>84438520>some meme chart that suggested an alcohol megadose had mild nootropic effectsi've seen so much shit claimed to have nootropic effects that i've lost the ability to take claims like that very seriouslythat said, having 9 drinks in one night once a month or even every couple weeks probably wouldn't change anything significant in your head. you just can't drink like that daily.
>>84436864>Most likely going to to apply for assisted suicide in March of next year.Please do how are you 35 and still engaging in this pussy ass attention-seeking histrionic bullshit, get off of my planet weakling
>>84438586>>8443860130+ thread. Try >>>/b/.
>>84438596I get the sense that she isn't really an expressive person. She is around my height (5'9/175cm) with curly brown hair and is wearing an olive-coloured raincoat with the zip pulled up under her chin. I think she's cute, but again I get the feeling that she is quite reserved and not overtly feminine or "hot" the way some girls are. Some people just have a quiet beauty about them, and she is one of them. I walk along another aisle and she appears at the end of the aisle and walks slowly past me. I then go over to the other side of the store, translating shit with my phone camera and struggling to find what I need, and she appears again, and we end up drifting back and forth the length of the store a couple of times but I tense up and lack whatever it takes to speak to her, it's fucked up. She looked at me a couple of times but my cold stare probably warned her to keep her distance, who knows. Maybe she wanted to help a lost tourist. I go to pay and she goes to pay too. I am leaving the store and think "no, no, you are fucking up yet another opportunity retard! You're too old for this shit!" so I stop and fumble in my pockets to stall my exit, and turn around. She is at the self-checkout machine and looks at me and holds her gaze. Man, there was something there, I'm telling you. But little prey rabbit me gets scared and leaves the store and walks on broken feet back to my hotel to eat alone. The next night I go there again after failing to find somewhere to eat again. The holiday is almost over so I don't really give a fuck about doing anything now. In the store I am walking around and the same fucking girl is there. She has dangly kind of earrings, is wearing some kind of sweater, blue jeans which are kind of flaired at the bottom, and is carrying the same white tote bag. A total qt. She seemed like such a quiet, sensitive, observational soul. But we didn't lock eyes that time and I'm not sure if she saw me.6/?
>>84438615I'm 31, I just have standards for behavior and you should too, I'm sorry you're a melodramatic manchild afflicted with arrested development self-imposed or no
>>84434403It's pretty "meh." I'm thinking of going to another AMP next weekend, as the one I went to earlier this month has been """closed""" the last two Saturdays I've tried to go. Not sure if it's really just the owner being at lunch when I show up, or she got raided. This other one I'm thinking about looks promising.Last night, I decided to buy/download volume 1 of the Mega Man collection (1-6?) and a Castlevania collection featuring the classic NES games, SNES one, and several others that I haven't played yet. I want to get back into Castlevania hardcore like I was in 2021. Hard to believe so much time has passed yet I'm still feeling like I'm at Square 1 of Life.
>>84438629Jesus Christ tldr did you get laid or not
>>84438629I know where the shit I want to eat is now so I get it and leave. After I leave I smoke a cigarette outside and then begin walking towards my hotel. As I begin walking I see her emerging from the store and look away because it's kind of dark and I feel creepy, but she probably saw me, who knows. Wish I had spoken to her, we could have gone for a coffee or a beer and talked about life. I didn't even have any intentions and rarely do when I see a girl I find pretty, I just want to be around them and get to know them. But I'm too old now to feel nromal doing that, it's very depressing. Anyway the next day I go to the airport and fly home. It was a great experience overall, in the sense of being meaningful and useful in my development as a person. I really have strong regret not doing this kind of shit ten years ago. I am such an inexperienced, childlike beta autist. It fucking sucks. But then again, I look back and rightly or wrongly see three opportunities of some kind to have met a girl, which never fucking happens when I'm back in wagieland living my cucked hermit lifestyle. I'm kind of manically writing all this out, hope someone finds it interesting. I'd like to thank the other anon who posted a thread about being a 28 year old neet and deciding to travel across Vietnam to overcome his autism a few weeks ago, he was a big reason why I did this shit in the first place. Go travel anons, it can help you.
>>84434403>What is your life like these days 30+ bros?I'm making a Power BI dashboard to track my EVE online trading and industry.Life is great and I am very thankful for it to be this way
>>84438646No I didn't man, but it's okay. It was a learning experience, a tough one but a necessary one - and one I should have experienced over a fucking decade ago! Aaaaargh! Maybe the girl I had a meal with wanted to fuck at first, who knows. I really am shitty and weird about that kind of thing. I remember this one time a long time ago, when I was her age 22/23 a girl invited me to come over to her place to watch a movie she enjoyed as a kid, one of her favorites, so I went over. She put on the movie and then began trying on different outfits in front of me, but I didn't get the hint that she wanted to fuck and instead watched this fucking PG movie and occasionally commented on her outfits, then we hugged and I left. I mean what the fuck man, I should be shot in the back of the head.
>>84434403It's better than it used to be. I'm well off, I have someone in my life, my bank account keeps going up even with a mortgage, have friends I speak to daily. Still, some days I look forward to the end. I also want to quit drinking
>>84438539>>84438715Jelly of you guys. How did you meet your gf/wife? I don't understand why successful people post here. When I was in a relationship I came here way less.
>>84438539>$150k a year in Eastern Europe>I'll never be richwtf do you mean? 150K is a rich guy's salary anywhere, but in EE you're practically an oligarch surely.
>>84438737>How did you meet your gf/wife?Was doing internet upgrades in the dormitory she was living in. She tested the new connection with 4chan. I just HAD to wife her up. Well, half true. Common interested in the insanity that 4chan was sparked the conversation. The fact that she was also similarly crazy to me in other aspects sealed the deal. And we both come for very poorfag backgrounds which means we're better at appreciating what we've built together.>I don't understand why successful people post hereI've been on 4chan for over 20 years (really oldfag), even before I met my wife. I will only stop posting here once I'm dead.Also, I am a degenerate. Not that many places on the Internet where I can talk about that part relatively anonymously.t. >>84438539
>>84438676Nah if she didn't make any direct physical advances or make her intentions known verbally I wouldn't have pounced either, sadly women don't learn that communication is important with regards to initiating sexual contact until after they've already hit the wall, yet another one of God's cruel jokes
>>84438769Degenerate in what sense? As in the kind of way most robots are?Anyway, you sound like a lucky guy (to have met her) and your life seems comfy. Happy for you brother.
>>84438750>you're practically an oligarch surelyHaha no.An actual oligarch is worth billions. You really have a 1991 impression of east europe, anon. Things have gotten expensive here as well.Yes, $150k is clearly not poor and puts me in the top 10% highest earners but it's still Europe. I can dodge some of the taxes, but I can't dodge all of the multitude of theft that Europe is in terms of taxation. If Americans were compelled to live under EU's taxation rules for a month they'd do another 1776 - even your "leftists" lol.>salaryI'm a contractor. As such, I don't always make that much. Last year I made ~$170k (depending on which exchange rate one uses) but this year I probably won't make even $90k. And in 2020 I made $20k (which is below minimum wage) because governmental insanity made it impossible for logistics people to work (contractors were basically raped financially).
>38 yo neet>finishing my Phd>running out of way of sponsored neetdom>physical and athletic af>one gf 5 y ago with zero interest in another
I wanna earn money but I'm stuck in education hell and my motivation and extreme fatigue is kicking inI'm so fucking tiredSo many problems to fix in getting fatigued thinking about shit
I bought my wife a dragon dildo.It gets here tomorrow.
>>84438787>Degenerate in what sense?I'm a bifag and a gigaperv. And AGP. And that's just the beginning of it. Most robots are normalfags compared to me.>lucky guyOh yeah. The fact that not only she tolerates me but has been genuinely happy to stick around is giga luck for sure. Again, we both had nothing when we met. I was in fact poorer than her when we met. And stayed poorer for several years.Unironically one thing that strengthened our bond is misogyny. I am a left-wing feminist compared to my wife when it comes to disdain for foids.
>>84438770Since I was a decade plus older than her I felt weird, but like I said I look a little younger so maybe she assumed I was. I think fundamentally I lack confidence in revealing who I am to people (for example, I live at home, which is beyond cringeworthy at my age) so I feared that even if I LARPed as chad and confirmed her interest, she would find out I was older than she thought, and that I lived at home, and would freak out and want to leave asap. Maybe paranoid thinking, but it was a nice enough meeting anyway. She was a really cute girl, looked very traditional and very independent-minded and intelligent. I automatically place girls like that on a pedestal, it's fucked up. I ended up just smiling a lot like a retard and being a nice guy. It was probably for the best. I actually saw her on the trail a couple of days later and autistically said a drive-by hello as I passed (she was sitting at the side of the trail) and after saying "are you okay?" she just nodded and waved at me as if to say "goodbye, good to see you, please don't talk to me!". It was a polite way of asking me to leave her alone, and that was fine.
>>84438797I knew someone from Eastern Europe who only earned $500 a month in a full-time job a few years ago. I'm guessing you are in Czech, Slovakia or Slovenia (not trying to dox, just my assumption).
>>84438822No I mean when you were 22/23
>>84438801What subject?
>>84438819I don't know what that abbreviation means, but at least you know yourself. Definitely a lucky guy with your wife kek.
>>84438838>I'm guessing you are in Czech, Slovakia or SloveniaYou're guessing wrongly.Also, contractors and jobs aren't quite the same thing.>who only earned $500 a month in a full-time job a few years agoMaybe in Ukraine, Belarus or ex-Yugo. The minimum wage is higher than that allover the region. And has been for years.Or the person you knew is retarded or simply lied. Even part time workers at the supermarket (zero qualifications) make more than that in my not-capital-city east-european city.>picrel
>>84438851petroleum engineering.
>>84438810>ContIt's 2 am and I have dodged all my obligations for two weeks straight Tomorrow it has to continueTired man
>>84438737I became religious and met her at Church.I still post here because it's a habit. I've been here for over a decade at this point and spent a lot of my child hood here. I have no social media and refuse to sign up for anything so this is the best place to come and shit post. I miss how this place used to be.How is your life going anon
>>84438822Yeah as much as I sympathize and see a lot of my former self in your behavior I'm much too cynical now to treat any girl with automatic reverence, there was this cute girl at Royal Farms who would always softly smile at me when she rung up my items at the register and it made me feel seen and comforted, maybe disproportionately so because I lead a pretty solitary existence, but I had come to look forward to seeing her and I would go out of my way to visit her location just to catch a glimpse of that warm familiar face, then one day during a particularly hectic moment in the store I heard her essentially catcall me from behind my left shoulder, she said "I'll suck your giant cock, yeah that was me" and she smugly smirked and turned to attend to some other matter in the building and I was completely turned off, even frightened by how forward and base that gesture was, I had to hurry out of the store as quickly as possible to assess what just happened and for the first time I sort of felt what it must be like to be a woman subjected to grotesque advances in public on the part of some seedy construction worker or a drunk frat boy, it was genuinely disturbing, now I avoid going to that location if I can help it it completely destroyed my positive opinion of her, moral of the story even chicks that look superficially nice and wholesome usually turn out to be disgusting whores with zero tact
>>84438838greece is worse than almost all of eastern europe with the exception of albania and bulgaria.
>>84438872Pretty based. I would never admit this in public but I'm a consolation prize masters (math) loser and I get really insecure and jealous of people that actually finished.
>>84438845Oh no way, she definitely wanted to fuck. Another night we went to the movies together and afterwards she asked to see my place, then asked to see my room, then climbed into bed and said it was so warm she didn't want to leave so we slept beside each other and made out for the first time. It was pretty kino the next morning because there was a thunderstorm and I held her close. She was a little vulgar and definitely experienced. She was tall and very attractive, and her family were rich as fuck too, I have no idea why she basically encouraged me to ask her out and then made all the moves to get me to her place a couple of times after that. We did try to have sex, but I absolutely freaked out, sweated so much the bedsheets were soaked, couldn't get hard while wearing a condom (I'm not sure if it's some kind of bodily reaction or if my dick is too big for regular condoms, I just can't stay hard while trying to force them on) and then she suggested I should leave. She still wanted to meet up after that, but I autismbombed the relationship by texting her lying that it had been a while since I was with a woman, writing her an A4-length handwritten letter wishing her good luck for the future, posting it through her door at like midnight one night and then walked around for hours feeling like shit and deleting her number. She contacted me again but was pissed I had deleted her number and I moved to a different part of the city, but she contacted me again then a few months later but life was moving so quickly and nothing came of it. /blogpost
>>84438870They were Ukrainian yeah. Her dad apparently only makes like $300 a month. Fucked up.
>>84438872What's the point of doing a PHD in that subject, no offense? Doesn't it make more sense financially to do the basic degree and then go work for an oil company?
>>84438881Wholesome, happy for you and I hope your marriage is a happy one.My life sucks brother, but I'm trying to move forward. Getting old and carrying around a ton of fear, shame and regret.
>>84438737For some reason all the 30 threads have been filled with successful and 'normies', for the lack of a better word, for the past year.They all managed to get a job and a relationship, feels like I'm the only remaining 'oldbot' in the whole board. Though to be fair it's good that they've all been able to make it in the end.
>>84438942>financiallylol. im a neet. unironically. i applied and they took me. the end.
>>84438955>My life sucks brother, but I'm trying to move forward. Getting old and carrying around a ton of fear, shame and regret.Why are you fearful, shameful, and regretful anon? I definitely felt that for awhile.
better than at 29, but worse than 21
>>8443898535 years old, living at home (my mom moved in to my rented place after splitting with her partner), low-paid job working alongside zoomers, barely have a reason to leave the house except work and groceries, have money to buy an apartment but struggling to find the motivation, split with my one and only ex (a single mom) and think it was the right decision but she is now dating a chad so obviously questioning why I couldn't handle it, a bunch of missed opportunities due to fear, naivety and lack of self-esteem. Feels like it's downhill from here. I crave love, really. Tried telling myself I didn't need it but as pathetic and needy as it sounds, a life without it now just seems pretty empty. It's not fun reading some manchild blogpost about his woes, but I appreciate you for asking anon.
>>84438984I mean technically you are in training/education. It just seems like the kind of subject which guarantees you a high-paying job, at PHD level you may as well be joining NASA to go drill on Mars or whatever as far as I can tell.
>>84439039No need to be thankful anon, you said you have low self-esteem but everyone needs to be heard sometimes. From what you say, you don't really have a reason to be ashamed of yourself. You work, you're helping your mother, you have enough to make a house purchase, you support yourself. These things are not something a manchild does.What kind of career do you have?
>>84438815>I bought my wife a dragon dildo.Based.I wish mine enjoyed the njoy more I brought her
>>84436864computer programming is dead as a job you will never get BUTif you study networking (which is super easy compared to programming) then go into security/cyber work you will EASILY land a job dudeyou need programmer skills to be a good pentester to look for bad code/vulnerabilities getting into it is a lot easier than you think, just keep progressing and dont stoptryhackme.comluv u anon
>>84439078Thanks man. I work an office job, it's easy work and very unfulfilling, and in a smallish town so people tend to wait years for any kind of promotion since there is little competition in the area. It is what it is. But people around me are like 23 on average so I am silent most of the time. For someone their age it's a decent job, easy to do, plenty of time to browse the internet, , secure, but I'm older and it's not the kind of job a responsible man, husband, or father would work. I moved back to my hometown a few years ago and honestly it feels psychologically like I'm back at school, being the studious, bright kid who is an absolute social anomaly, except now I'm the boomer unc past his expiry date. But, it is what it is.I'm gonna sleep soon, but thanks for your post man. A small glimpse of sunshine in an otherwise cloudy sky.
>>84438316based, i went back to school at 27 and life is comfy now that im through all that and have a decent job>>84438333you can get all your classes paid for and some living $$ if you apply for fafsajust make sure you dont enroll in shit classes that wont get you a jobhttps://studentaid.gov/h/apply-for-aid/fafsato be clear this is a grant, not a loan, you do not have to pay any of the money backand they give you some spending cash toofree money and paid to go to schoolyou are not doomedluv you anon
>>84434403>What is your life like these days 30+ bros?still never had a girlfriendstill joblessstill live with my parentsbut i'm gonna plap a 19 year old this summer so thats nice
>>84439160How did you meet desu senpai?
someone who retired off bitcoin>wake up>smoke and coffee>do some chores and errands>horribly depressed>drive around aimlessly for hours, chainsmoke>go home and shower and browse imageboards in bed for hours>hope i die in my sleep
>>84438580>WoW, OSRS, or FFXIVClassic wow whenever they do another server, ive had one tryhard guild forever ago and I dont think Im going to ever get a group like that again.XIV was fun for a while but holy shit I was triple digit hours in and still in the first expansion being told "it gets good in another 50 hours I swear" for the third or fourth time before my aub ran out and I never reuppedCurrently OSRS doing leagues, I only play my ironman so its basically the same thing to me but with wacky abilities. Going for the dragon cup on this one
>>84439179/soc/ but its not what it sounds like I'm not a whore I've been friends with her for over a year. She went through a bad breakup recently so in her manic depression she's decided to travel all the way from NYC to the west coast to change up her life so we're gonna spend like a week hanging out and I'll hopefully lose my virginity whether she likes it or not. just kidding I'm a good person. probably.if you're just asking in the hopes of getting a zoomette gf, my advice for meeting girls on the internet is just being nice to them; it's ok to be creepy in a jokey way just don't be selfish in your interactions. be willing to listen and while it's obvious all men are coombrains, at least try to have more depth in your interactions than just "please fuck me please be my wife please please please" because that's the kinda shit they complain about to their discord boyfriend while making fun of you. also, zoomettes are so emotionally exhausted from the immaturity of zoomer men that just being barely more considerate than the average fortnite player is good enough to make them like you. dont be too obnoxious/annoying in your humor.that said I'm still currently a virgin and never had a girlfriend and probably never will despite spending the last 20 years of my life attempting to groom e-girls so what the fuck do I know
>>84434403My potential boyfriend got me a hololive pillow today I'm happy today for once
>>84439293happy for you chickn
>>84434403Trying to kick my caffeine addiction and take up exercise again. Summer is nearly here and I want to get fit, but my problem is always that I pour myself a cup of coffee when I wake up and then I wait until I've taken a dump, but that takes an hour or so and by then I need to eat before the run so the coffee doesn't take a toll on me. So my solution is to just kick the coffee or at least get the run over with before the coffee.
>>84434460>huutistaAre you still wishing you didn't live in Finland?
>>84439334you can run, shit, eat, and drink coffee all at the same time
>>84439148I hope work improves for you anon. You're doing well, don't be so harsh on yourself. Sleep well mate.
>>84439352>stillI haven't posted before. But no, I wouldn't ever wanna live anywhere else. Preferably I wouldn't wanna live at all. Worlds happiest country.
>>84434687How'd you come out of your shell? To me I genuinely can't imagine it as a possibility. So many things that come naturally to others feel impossible.
>>84434403I can remember being in the prime of my life during my 20s. Fucking new girls everyday, not knowing where I was gonna sleep most nights, doing all the drugs the 70s had to offer and still getting a law degree somehow in the process. By 23 I got my first job at a firm, the secretary was a blonde girl named Jessica. Jessica and I got along a bit too well and ended up getting married soon after I started working there. Fast forward 10 years, it's the 1980s, I now own a law firm, have two kids, a wife that isn't as pretty as she once was, and a never ending allure to party like I once did. I hate the nagging bitch and the kids, I still feel young, despite the fat over my formerly trim physique and saggy man tits. I wanna actually love new people, I'll fuck young whores in the office but it's not the same as having random girls so in love with you, they become your personal sluts.Real or Boomer nostalgia goggles?
>>84434403same as it ever wassame as it ever wassame as it ever was
>>84440512People dressed better back then.
>>84434403taking a year off from work.I just play vidya and eat sandwiches and am pretty bored honestlybut loathe the idea of waging againI have nothing to complain about... but I'm not happy Not unhappy.Just not happySitting in the lobby of my game while I write this. It's just not fun today.
>>84440512I refuse to believe people this old or sexually successful come here
I injured my spine at work a few years ago, I'm pretty much disabled now. Since I never went to college, manual labor is all I know, I can't work now, eventually money will run out and I will put a bullet through my skull. My whole spine is slowly collapsing, first it was lower back, then upper back, now neck, I'm in pain all day. My life is over at 30.
>>84435077I hate socializing if it's just small talk.Game night is OK, because we are playing games, working on an objective together, or versus.Sports are fine too actually, I'm just not athletic. Use to be OK at public foosball. There are some tryhards, but talking shit is also fun - and anyone can do that. All in good fun too.But the small talk.Kill me.Problem for me is, I don't want to make or work on things anymore either.So I can't relax talking to people,I can't pass the time building things....I play video games and watch reruns.Not sure how long this will last before it burns out and I turn to drugs or alcohol.
>>84436864max out your credit cards before you MAID.I almost an heroed without doing that.
>>84438596what's with this blog post bud.you're lonely af aren't you
>>84438815Is this the goal of life?Find an opposite sex you can live old and become degenerate with?
>>84440429>How'd you come out of your shell? To me I genuinely can't imagine it as a possibility. So many things that come naturally to others feel impossible.nta.I worked at a place when I was 25 that forced me to communicate to people, almost everyone was friendly to me. A few chads basically took me under their wing, I didn't exactly mimic them but I observed how they interacted with people (relatively carefree, kind, slight banter) I applied that to how I spoke to people. I was and still can be very quiet in social interactions but I have multiple groups of friends (inc. same chads).Now that I'm 36 I almost don't care about being liked or being outgoing with people I don't know, I now know I'm a good person that's interesting.>So many things that come naturally to others feel impossible.True but I'm really good at Excel
>>84440636If you marry someone you're not able to be connect with sexually you're going to have a bad time it would be like not marrying someone who accepts you playing video games or something
Last few months are just a blur. Been just pushing through every bad thing to happen to me my whole life. Always just "is what it is" and keep going. A little less functional each time. Broke a couple years ago. Bad enough that when I finally started talking to professionals about it they hit me with a bunch of diagnoses and put me on disability. Now I sit at home alone (no family I talk to) and struggle to do literally anything. I've needed groceries for two months. I have to do laundry by Wednesday (it has been weeks) so I can use some of my disability money to buy weed and alcohol on Thursday. Today all I planned to do was listen to a podcast I like. I couldn't get through an episode, just too down. I sat there with it paused and cried my eyes out for hours instead. I used to be considered successful. Dodged every bullet of my generation and managed to get a good job and advance my career and all that. Now I'm a lonely invalid too scared to kill myself. I think a lot about episode 8 of The Sopranos. About how "it's like the fucking regularness of life is too hard". I feel that a lot lately.
>>84440611We are the same. Many of us here are. Society wasn't meant for us.
>>84441060>Anon is at least a-social, though obviously a lot more is going on>Society wasn't meant for us.??
>>84434403Its okay. I go to church a lot. Jesus is very much a light in the darkness for me.
>>84434403>wake up>watch movies/tv show>browse 4chan & jewtube>eat>browse 4chan & jewtube>eat>browse 4chan & jewtube>sleep>repeat every day for 6 yearsI'm starting to realize how fucked I am and should get a job. I'll lose all my free time, but if I don't, I'm pretty much fucked when my mom dies. I also have no real income, so I'm hurting myself in the bigger picture of things.
>Dad died >Custody battle for my 10 month old>Had to take a minimum wage job after losing my 63k position >Endlessly sore from physical labor all day>Moved back in with mom and my loser, violent brother who makes my mom cry >All sense February>When I'm working, Im in agonizing pain>When Im with my baby girl, all I can think of is my psycho ex wife>When I'm home, I have to deal with my brother>When I finally have a moment to myself, it's the only time I can mourn my fatherLiving the dream
nah fr these uncs old af :crying emoji:on god how are you 30 bruh
>>84442484>on god how are you 30 bruhi'm 35
>>84442484I'm actually only 29 but partake in these threads because I'm living the life of a 30 year oldI'm young like you!!! Look at my Italian brainrot!
>>84434403Pros>Have a decent paying career>My financial concerns are over>I was actually doing pretty well with women for a while.>Have my diet and routine in order>No extreme emotional lows. Only exceptions are if there are bad things that are external factors, but even then they feel more manageable and fixable and I don't feel as helplessCons>Friends are harder to make and I have a lot less of them>I don't get modern society and worse of all no one else seems to either>Cynical cause I realize a lot of stuff I grew up believing were lies and have seen too much of women's true nature to believe them or trust them.>Can't drink or get high anymore. Not because of a condition or a tramatic event, just doesn't feel good and makes me feel shitty the next day>More of my friends and family are dead.>You start seeing human behavior as people being performative, and not in a good way, but in a way to get what they want. It makes me question if anyone has depth anymore>All the music, movies, and games I like aren't popular>No extreme emotions. No extreme upswings of joy, excitement or love.IN CONCLUSIONit's a mixed bag. You trade off the highs and lows for stability. You trade your dreams for a steady paycheck. You see the alternative of people who chased their dreams (Dreams as in fantasy, not the people who grinded to become a doctor or lawyer or whatever) completely destroy their lives over chasing nothing. You question if life would be better if you just did (fill in blank) but realize there are trade offs.I wonder if I had gotten married would I be happier. I then look at my exes on social media or who they are now and see that not only would it not but I would be miserable trying to fix them but convinced I did everything right. Even the only one who I thought was marraigable has done some skeevy stuff behind her husbands back.I feel myself just mellowing out overall.
>>84434403Oh, the usual. I poison my mind, body, and soul on a daily basis to avoid feeling things. Because when I feel, I get depressed and nostalgic for times that were shitty, but not as shitty as now.And then I will turn around and lament how I cant feel things, everything is grey, how I have no interests, and how my lack of interests makes it impossible to meet new people.And then I lay in bed for a few hours, getting ready to start the cycle again.
I turn 29 this year. I'm always thinking if it's worth continuing living after having such a hard life. What can you do with a building that has such a weak and traumatized foundation?
>finally have a decent salary by my country standards>real estate prices skyrocketThis world always has to sodomize me one way or another
>>84442916Know that feel but got lucky.>Get starter home when loans were 0% and 2% for the unwashed massed>Feel I am overpaying by $20k but I needed a place to live so I eat the cost>Value shoots up $80k>Not a good thing btw, it spiked my property Tax and insurance, but I was already aiming for monthly costs way below my income so I am still beating rent prices by a lot.>To my surprise prices are still a mess in real estate and have not gone down despite interest rates spiking.>Now no one qualifies for a home but no one can sell their home eitherI want a value drop to ease up on my taxes and insurance. I have no plans to sell.I have no clue how people who are buying after I bought are gonna afford a home. The fact that younger generations can't even handle being roommates with each other makes it crazier. At least when I was growing up we could do the roommate thing and while there was some drama for the most part bills were paid and it wasn't that hard.
>>84442976>>Not a good thing btw, it spiked my property Tax and insuranceI had to fight our county tax board over this a few months ago. My 100k market value shoebox in the middle of nowhere was creeping up to 125 or 130 until it was reappraised to 250k late last year. Apparently some retard/shyster was using Zestimate market values for their appraisals instead of sending a human being to the properties and half my road was filing the same paperwork.
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>>84434403Better than it's been the previous 2 decades.>steady low income>losing weight>building muscle>eating well>spending time with parents>playing vidya>hiking in natureCould be much better but speaking from experience it could also be much, much worse.
>bought house>career actually going good>got virgin gfEverything will be daijobu
>>84443279>virgin gfIn your 30s?
>>84443303>In your 30s?so was she
>>84442369Damn..rough..
I've been thinking lately and I realized than even when was younger and slightly less fucked in the head I never wanted to "make it".I have a job where I do the bare minimum and I have zero interest in my company and the field I work in.As of now I just want to buy a cheap place and spend my free time reading, writing, listening to music, fishing and as close to nature as I can.
do you fit in on this site? trying to figure out if it's me or my age
>>84443331Why was she still a virgin?That's like 0.1% of the female population.
>>84443391I've posted here for about 13 years, and robots have offered some of the most useful advice I've ever received. It was genuinely insightful too, not just shallow platitudes. I'll always be grateful for /r9k/
>>84443435>Why was she still a virgin?Assburgers is a dangerous drug for women too. Spill enough spaghetti that scares off the horniest normalfag guy, you can make it to 30 without kissing anyone just like a guy can. They're unlikely, but they do exist.Now I'm living with her terminal autismo.
>>84443442seems like i don't really fit in here.
It has been absolute shit but at least I'm cute enough to be treated like I'm still in my 20's
>>84434403i turn 30 today. i got a shit job 3 years ago and then a halfway decent job last year after about 7 years of being a neet and losing all hope i would ever have a normal life. i somehow made a few friends in the past 2 years and socialize most weekends. still a V but not a KHHV anymore, managed to tick both boxes a little over a month ago. ended up not working out in the end, she had bpd and said i was too fragile and was afraid of hurting me or some bullshit. still bummed out about it, feel like i missed the last chopper out of saigon.still hate myself and my life. still feel like at some point everyone is going to notice i'm actually just a sperg. still crave romantic love to an insane degree but i feel like it's forever out of reach. i was almost used to the feeling of it being over and then i had that brush up last month which did nothing but make me feel amazing for less than a week and then infinitely worse. it had been a while, mostly because i had been keeping myself too busy to think, but i've been having suicidal thoughts again.current life plan is save as much money as possible, then as soon as i start feeling miserable quit, live the rest of my life on the beach, then call it a night when the money runs out. quite frankly i should already have done it.
My life in the past was a nightmare. It's only just starting now. I'm somewhat bitter that it took so long. As a 20 something I'd be way better off, but it was out of my hands. It was freak chance I overcame very horrid circumstances. I have become very strong but I'm beginning to accept that starting this late is a huge handicap and not to get my hopes up
>>84443516Happy Birthday robocop
>>84443774don't really feel like celebrating but thank you.
>>84438657i feel similarly to you in some ways. i was on a trip not long ago and one of the worst things about it was trying to find a place to eat alone. i didn't end up doing it but it was weird how much of a big deal it was and how hard it is to walk into a place filled with people and do the whole waiting for food thing. i also wrote shit about it down about my experiences manically each evening, but it was meant for someone specific (who i ended up not sending it to them).congrats on getting to talk to that girl in the restaurant after mustering the courage to actually go out there. you can cherish that experience.i will say though your tendency to think women much younger than you are looking you at you as if they're waiting for you to hit on them is probably some shit in your head man. aberrant salience. they're probably wondering if you're going to fucking rape them. lone men doing stuff alone is a social red flag in that sense for them.and yeah you're right, we were supposed to be doing that stuff in our 20s.also what did you do in your first few days that made it so miserable? guess the city sucked? i think even when the city is nice it sucks to just walk alone desu.
>>84443985Hope you enjoyed your trip man, other than the food issue.To be honest, on the trail I hiked there were people of all ages, though of course most were 20-25. As for the girl at the restaurant, I only asked if she was walking and she then asked me questions, and I gave her an easy out by suggesting she keep eating so her food didn't go cold. I realize it's creep territory so I tried to be polite about it. She was so talkative though. I actually went on that holiday partly to get over my ex, and the first day of hiking was just me thinking about her being there with me, or what could have been different. But meeting this girl, even if it turned out awkward, was actually very fortuitous for me because she asked me so many questions, and we had a joke etc, and it reminded me how lonely I felt in comparison with my ex who enjoyed attention but didn't ask questions or show much curiosity. The conversation I had with that girl was how a conversation should feel.I landed in the city and walked in the wrong direction for like four miles, but it was fine since it was hot and it was a new experience. But then I walked back across the city to where I was staying, the cheapest place I found online. I'd booked four nights there, but as soon as I turned up I sensed something was just off about that place. I go inside and a guy finally turns up and shows me to my room, and it was so depressing. I spent a lot of my 20s living in shit-tier rooms like that, bare and uncomfortable, and I knew I needed to get out. It was noisy as hell, with loud TVs playing all night and kids screaming, I think it was half hotel and half apartment. The bathroom door was fucked up so that anybody passing by could basically look through the gap and see you showering. Book another place the next day and spent that day walking around the city aimlessly. It was a nice city, it just felt kind of pointless doing it alone.
>>84444157I was in that country to hike, so after a day I just wanted to gtfo. It was a nice city, but my feet were already fucked after two days of walking 10+ miles around the city, so it wasn't even enjoyable in the end. So I booked a nice hotel room and then left the following morning. Turns out the girl I had dinner with did the same thing, visited the city for a few days alone and then left to hike. Anyway.It sucks being older, but I find that I enjoy solo travel. It really brings out my confident, carefree side, which doesn't come out open. I felt comfortable navigating a different language, finding a place to sleep, talking to random people. I met some cool people who told me about their lives and wished me well, it was nice meeting them. Some were like 65+ years old, others my age, others much younger, one guy in his 40s. There was no sense of judgement or whatever. One older guy walked up to me randomly at a bus station and asked where I was going. He obviously travelled a lot, was probably retired, but he had such a good nature. In the future I plan to go on holiday solo again (I spent my 20s spending my days off from work just sitting indoors) although I'll have to make sure I plan somewhere which isn't filled with zoomers. Maybe a tour of some random cities I find interesting, or maybe another hike somewhere. Do you have any plans?
>>84444210what country / city was it?i wanna meet random old travelers and not zoomers as welli don't got nothing planned i'm still rotting day after day. my trip was for work
>>84434403Death would be mercy in comparison...I feel like I have been living inside a bad/boring dream for years.I'm stuck at the bad ending, but I am forced to still play the game.
>>84437874Cool. Post your address so I can come over and torture you.
>>84435404git gud with Linux, software development, LoRa/Meshtastic/Meshcore and be a cyber outlaw
>>84444444I wish to observe this get so I must be original in my post.
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>>84438316Everyone should listen to this anon. Women will drive you insane and the sex gets boring. You think it won't, but it will. Get it out of your system however you can and focus on your own path. Improve for yourself and stop giving a fuck about the world. Women cannot fix your problems, only compound them.
>>84444692It's something that for all of human history up until the past 50-60 years, women were the motivating factor behind men. Now they're so awful that we found the motivation in ourselves and from other men.
>>84444778It's not that women are awful it's that society(capitalism!) has conditioned women to be ruthlessly cruel and cutthroat in their interactions with men. Having empathy is seen as a detriment to success so women and men both turned into crazy narcissists.In men this resulted in mass inceldom and whatever the fuck people like Clavicular can be called, I guess "the beautiful ones" from the behavioral sink experiment: They completely retreat from engaging with society and just become obsessed with their own neuroses. For women it manifested in the "girlboss" mentality of securing your own financial independence and only seeing men as a means of social mobility rather than companionship. So simultaneously women are less dependent on men but also their standards are now infinitely higher. All these "girlboss" women are constantly lamenting their inability to marry a CEO but still would never marry a stay at home husband or anyone that earns less than them even if he's a good person. This has been going on long enough that we're starting to see the social consequences of all these 40-50 year old women that never settled down or started a family and are not blaming everyone else for their inability to pair bond. It's really sad if you look at it from an outside perspective how male/female social relations have completely deteriorated into the world we have now. Like I'm not even blaming anyone(except the Jews), I have no animosity towards women, but it's soulcrushing seeing so many miserable people everywhere you go that refuse to connect with eachother out of sheer narcissism.
>>84444778The secret is that they were always awful. Society kept them in check somewhat, and men idealized their mystery. For a long time I also craved these supposedly "emotionally intelligent" women, but I've come to realize that men are the real romantics. We crave what we can never get. It's a bewildering feeling to explain basic empathy to women, but I've had to do it countless times and ended both my major relationships over it. Cumulatively I've spent just over 15 years trying to build something with women and it has always failed because I took on too much while they completely dropped the ball and failed to step up. The incentive isn't just absent, it's deeply in the negatives. Are there rare gems out there? Maybe. I thought several times that I found one. Are they strong enough to overcome their inherent human laziness? Sometimes. Can they resist social media psyops? Very rarely. Women require constant upkeep and management to stay even-keeled, yet they spew bullshit about how they do all this "emotional labor" in relationships. It's utter nonsense. They are dumb fallible stinky humans like the rest of us, but their willpower is largely absent. Usually they are nothing more than expensive pets or obnoxious overgrown children. Schopenhauer was right about women.
>>84444827Women were like that before capitalism. It's biology. Their hypergamy is inescapable just like our morning wood is inescapable. They have smaller brains. They were weaker physically and operate on a consensus/hive model. I used to get angry about women. Now I pity them.
>>84444827>whatever the fuck people like Clavicular can be calledLooksmaxxers. Funnily enough, they came about by simply learning about the long proven Halo & Horn Effect. Instead of denying it like all normies do, they went turbo into it and decided that it's better to make yourself as attractive as possible and reap all the benefits instead. Can't fault them, it's better than those that outright refuse to believe in the Halo & Horn Effect.
>>84444864hypergamy is just a consequence of sex being tied to social status. there's nothing intrinsically linking who you sleep with to your financial success except that liberalism(and before it mercantilism, feudalism, etc) tries to commodify everything under heaven and try to find a way to monetize it. so when a women is assessing a mate, she always has his earning potential in the back of her mind, whether it's 2000 years ago, 1000 years ago, 200 years ago, or today, that is a constant.what separates the past from today though, is that the pool of people you compare your potential mate to has gotten exponentially larger, and as a result there will always be a small chance of getting someone better. in the 1800's, you would marry the best guy in your village and build a life with the expectation that you made the best choice with the options you had available. in the 2020's, you now have a constant stream of potential partners advertising themselves to you from all over the world 24/7 with how addicted people are to the internet. it takes a lot of willpower or at least self-confidence to be willing to say "you know what, I don't care about chad, I don't care about marrying a tech CEO or a saudi oil prince or a twitch streamer, I'm just gonna find the first person I like and build the life I want instead of waiting for prince charmingbucks." the chads have created this environment where women are constantly convinced he's "right around the corner" from just watching his social media content all day, and women have surrounded themselves with so many social media chads that their perception of the men around them in real life just totally craters.if you want to compare it to male incels, it's like how men are obsessed with asian e-girls and vtubers these days, but the difference is most of these men would settle for the first girl that looks at them with kindness, while parasocial foids are kinda just stuck waiting for chad.
>>84444920I specifically named him as an example of men that don't actually have any interest in dating or women and just use "looksmaxxing" and incel lingo to push a very antisocial, narcissistic belief system.Clavicular's whole shtick is pointing out how shallow the entire world is so he's incapable of connecting with a foid for anything because he just sees her as a wrpg charisma check that only wants him for his beauty and nothing more. If she's nice to him, it's because he's hot. If she's mean to him, it's because she's jealous or just playing hard to get or whatever. It's the same as the common foid brainrot that "men only like me because they want sex" that leads them to self-sabotage and self-isolate. Regardless of whether he's right or wrong, living your life that way makes it impossible to pair bond. He's grooming Gen Alpha men to be even more depressed and socially avoidant than Gen Z and Millennials. That's why I compare him to the behavioral sink experiment, it feels like a manifestation of collective mental illness.
>>84444926I think you're ascribing things to capitalism that it can't be responsible for. If the USSR had dating apps, women would be selecting for the most prestigious party members or favored scientists/engineers (which correlates with pay). If we were living in some ancom autonomous zone, they'd be selecting for leadership qualities and physicality. The commodification of dating makes everything worse, but the core "problem" is raw biology.
>>84445008>pointing out how shallow the entire world isWhich it 100% is>only wants him for his beauty and nothing moreWhich they 100% do. If he was ugly, they wouldn't even see him as human.>If she's nice to him, it's because he's hot100% true. Halo & Horn effect in action.>If she's mean to him, it's because she's jealous or just playing hard to get or whateverProbably also true. If you treat a woman who believes she's a 10 like she's a 4 or just any regular guy, she'll flip the fuck out on you.>living your life that way makes it impossible to pair bondMost women already can't do that by the time they graduate HS. Once they graduate college, there's nothing left. They literally have nothing to offer except a blown out hole, various mental illnesses, aging looks, tattoos, facial piercings, etc.>He's grooming Gen Alpha men to be even more depressedWho says you have to be depressed? Plenty of guys are foreveralone and happy as fuck. Divorced men are often far happier than they ever were in the marriage.
>>84445047I'm not blaming capitalism for sex being tied to social status I'm blaming capitalism for accelerating the commodification and gamification of sex because some rich guys created things like Tinder to enrich themselves at the expense of society and the continued commodification of everything else has given us no options to meet women outside of those dating apps because going out is fucking expensive and all you'll see is couples anywhere you go.now we can look at China for an actual perfect example of the opposite happening and yet gender dynamics STILL break down and result in a mass incel epidemic. the Chinese government is very active in regulating dating apps and trying to avoid people using them as glorified prostitution apps, but like you say it's kinda just human nature. If you give people access to hypergamy, they're going to use it for social mobility regardless of the original intent.however where Communist China and the West massively differ is in access to third places: Chinese men may be incels, but they still have access to (male) friends. the massive rise of Chinese anime fandom is due to the local "nerd" industries thriving. card shops in China are always full of young men having fun. China still has bars that are used for people to just hang out instead of looking for sex. China has a lot of university hobby groups that do cool stuff and aren't just trying to get rich quick. China still has public events for individuals, not just families, so people can hang out and make friends. so like, while you can't stop dating apps from destroying dating, you can at least make it less bad by providing alternative means of socialization outside of sex. there's no short-term profit to be made in doing this though so capitalism will never provide it. moving people away from irl third places onto online platforms has been massively profitable for a few giant corporations and massively detrimental to local economies that relied on places like malls.
I wouldn't call women "awful", more like heavily biology-coded. They've always been like this, which is why both history, religion and even mythology have always been filled with warnings about them. Even in the animal kingdom most female species are actually horrible to their males, when they don't just straight up eat them during intercourse.While I do agree that the way we used to "keep them in line" could be heavily argued, the modern issue we're facing is that we've reached a point where they have a major impact on society, and unfortunately women do not care about future, they're creatures that live in the moment. A simple look at the past is good enough of a proof, men have always strived to conquer and leave behind a legacy, women do not.But at the end of the day arguing about why women are the way they are is completely pointless when we can just have to look at the objective numbers. The fact that so many of them would rather die with cats than date an "average" guy, the state of the dating apps, the ridiculous amount of men having to pay alimony (was it 74% in 2025?) the fact that onlyfans has been a major success, the fact that HR departments will mercilessly filter the male gender regardless of the reason, etc.At this point I don't really think society can revert back to traditional family values, we have to think of a new model where men can get something. It's why I've been advocating for legalizing prostitution, re-enabling red districts. It wouldn't completely fix the status-quo, but It'd at least give men a chance to legally fulfill their sexual needs, which in turn would make them more willing to participate back into society.
>>84445134NTA, I was gonna reply to your first post, but u addressed some of my critiques here. But I think your China example isn't great. Women there are in a lot of ways more hypergamous. The collectivist culture has just been masking over it.To me, its all about "globalism" and the interconnectedness of society. On a primitive level, women want provision and protection from a mate. But society has become so large, the threats are larger, the needs are larger, and like you said the pool to select mates has become larger.
>>84435404There's going to be a fairly large divide between people who are savy enough with tech and those who aren't when it comes to obtaining media and information on the internet, more so then it is already.Recommend doing what >>84444513 said. At the very least start down the linux rabbit hole.
>>84434403Nice job, have a bunch of money I don't know what to do with. Have more than enough to afford my hobbies. Yet, I'm not really in the mood to buy love.
I finally caved and bought a dakimakura. Best purchase I ever made, it's so comfy.
