reminder that the government actually is deliberately marginalizing ~33% of the male populationscientists are writing papers on it, think tanks have it all planned outhttps://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/politics-and-the-life-sciences/article/toward-individualistic-reproduction-solving-the-fertility-crisis-could-require-a-further-marginalization-of-men/F26A4750B666344157278B72CFC5D223women had gender equality since the 70s, yet the traditional system where most people get married in their 20s and start having children persisted until the 00s, so this isn't due to women only the top 20% or so "Chads", rather this is a recent and deliberate social engineering projectnonconformist white men are considered a threat and will be ostracized through various means to keep them pacified, and all the special interest groups are on board, ethnic minorities of course are encouraged to maintain their traditional lifestyles because they generally support the the state and the elite and never challenge it in a meaningful sensethis is a deliberate extermination of.. well... us.. basically, if you still feel invested in mainstream western society you're a complete idiot, even if you manage to conform and get accepted, you will marry an awful degenerate woman and get divorceraped, the only solution at this point is to "accelerate", to approach the "christian right", the "alt-right" and all the bad guys and extremists who offer both alternative communities and political opposition to the deranged "woke" thing that has ensnared western society, government, media and corporations, globohomo, jews, whatever you want to call it, basically anyone who would fire you because you don't believe men can be women or don't support BLM
>>84438413Well yes, of course. What do you think the term 'Incel' means? This is all deliberate. I am honestly really glad to not be from the US or UK. My shithole might be Brown but at least we don't have this crazy shit here.
>>84438413>nonconformist white menholy shit shut up you delusional nazoid, it's every man
>>84438413>2 nordic subhumans and an hr roastie who insists you call her doctor
>>84438413>Nations should consider reproductive policy experiments to find out which economic and social resources are required for enough women to conclude that single parenthood is better than remaining childless. Insights from such pilot projects could inform universal implementation in our post-automation future. If artificial womb technology arrives around the same time, men would achieve greater reproductive equality, which could counter the male marginalization we have seen increase over the past decades. These would be drastic measures, but considering the existential stakes for nations and gender equality, they are worth considering in earnest.it should be legal to kill bastards
>>84438668Seething JIDF on cue
>>84438727the jews created the feminism and liberalism that have destroyed the west
>>84438740I know and the poster I replied to is seething about it being called out, "the west" is whites
>>84438752i am the poster you replied to, retard. the west is the middle class-"white supremacy" is a fiction invented by socialist jews to subvert the bourgeois west
>>84438413"Genetic hygiene" will be among the metrics used to measure how 1st world a society is and it will happen within the next few decades.It was never about love.
>>84438413I've come to appreciate 'tranny', 'BLM', and 'woke' obsession among rightoids as a good way to determine when something I'm reading has been written by an absolute retard. If you had wrote all of this without that dog whistle bullshit, I might have entertained it for a bit, but you made it very easy for me to tell you're some online propaganda-slurping moron.
>>84438799have you considered reading the paper before you dismiss the OP as propaganda
>>84438799what should we call you as an objectively definable group then if not "woke" or "SJWs" or "leftists"progressives?also it is peak cult-like behavior to blow someone off merely for bringing up an issue, literally the perfect way to get followers to cancel a debate before it even begins
this >>84438780the western middle class began as a minority of merchants and minor property owners, grew in the 19th century, ballooned in the 1920s along with a lower-middleclass before being cut short by the depression and war before ballooning in the 1950s, the prosperity, freedom and leisure time is due to, for the first time in civilization, a significant proportion of the population owning homes and owning shares in the stockmarketthe problem is to accomplish this you need to be intelligent, which limits enfranchisement to whites and east asians, black people have poor impulse control and simply can't make a sensible investment and forget about it, they have to sell everything to buy the latest air jordans or whatever, they like it when the state steps in and dishes out welfare, their votes are essentially capital, but there are limits to that, really they want an excuse to loot everything they see around them, like a typical BLM protest where protest organized lowkey call to loot white-owned stores, black people as a whole are pretty awful hostile people never forget thatanother problem, for the elite that is, is that this middle class is competition, they could own your home and rent it to you, they could own everything in your 401k instead of you, and they resent that, they know there is this massive bank of wealth they can't get their hands on, it is like cookies in the cookie jar just out of reachso you have these 2 groups, the super-rich and ethnic minorities looking at white people, the bear hopes the wolves bring down a buffalo because it can then drive off the wolves and eat its fill
Men deserve some marginalization, it's universally agreed they are shit. Even men know men are shit.Just give them some purpose that isn't war so they can stop moaning.
>>84439033Men will never be satisfied until they have families. The only way to solve the problem is to give them a family.
>>84439033>Just give them some purpose that isn't war so they can stop moaning.Neah. The purpose should be to destroy you. Not just you personally, but you as in the toxic antihuman and anticivilizational ideas that you embody and represent.Also, men's purpose should be to repress and oppress foids. "Women's rights" were a catastrophic mistake that should be corrected the way all catastrophic mistakes are corrected: through violence and rigid repression of the guilty parties - which is all women and 30% of men (the simps).
>>84438799>you're some online propaganda-slurping moron.at least he didnt pick up a rifle and open fire like your comrades.
>>84438970I cannot accept that graph is real for my own sanity.>>84439033I agree with this sentiment, but women choose these bad men as partners or at the very least are easily manipulated by them, so what's happening can't continue.
>>84439534There's no good men to pick from, it's not a women problem at all.The men you think of simply don't exist. That's why Chad is an imaginary homosexual concept, best represented by a heavily photoshopped black and white picture
I am building a natural farming permaculture eden. Like a spider I will wait until a lost qt hippy blows in and asks to work/study under me then boom, stockholm disciple her get married have ten kids and we live happy ever after. All the girls in natural building workshops or group foraging meets only go because their bf makes them go. So I've given up on meeting one that way.I will beat her if she shaves but otherwise plan to be kind to her and share all my favorite torrented anime.
>>84439588>There's no good men to pick from, it's not a women problem at all.>The men you think of simply don't exist.No, those men definitely exist, women just don't like them.
>>84438799Agreed with the exception of "tranny."Trannies are annoying and shouldn't be pandered to.
>>84438413Would a woman want to have children alone, wtf? What kind of study is this?
>>84438413>33% between 0 and 1statistical manipulation, the difference between 1 and 0 sexual partners could be huge. the number that 33% could represent:>Guy with 1 long term wife or gf>Incel with 0 sexual partners>Guy who realised sex wasn't for him and Volceled there afterPresent a study with a 0 category and it will filter these people out and be a more accurate representation.>Be in modern world>Be way less likely to die in every stage in life due to healthcare, legal protection, and Mutually assured destruction (preventing head on conflicts between nuclear powers and giving more time to resolve conflict)> suddenly biological fail safe to protect wombs and sacrifice males is irrelevant> new environment hasn't been around long enough to adapt culturally let alone biologicallyInceldom isn't society's fault, the data has only grown enough that it is barely coming into clarity as to why it is happening, let alone the interplay between strategies deployed and revision. But what you are posting is already based on critical a mistake.>nonconformist white men are considered a threatWell some white nationalists of the mid 20th century literally killed 2 of the most prominent nonconformist and conformists black leaders in the USA. Even to this day there is gridlock to moving towards a more Nordic model for policing due to racial tensions, I'm assuming they're more hard on white nationalists because of this and not just that some white men are nonconformist white men are white nationals.>this is a deliberate extermination of.. well... us.. basicallyThere is literally threads and posts about hating women on here running 24/7. there's a big amount of robots who cheer on killings of women and there used to be massive hype here on such as Elliot Rogers.I'd wager that Inceldom root cause is an excess of young males in general in the modern world, pic related (those dark blue bars represent millions of young men).
>>84438413Can someone help explain the pie chart to me? Is that saying 99th percentile with 287 average bodies is 20% of men? Same with 24% of men having 85+ bodies. I will say that has got to be total bull shit lmao. The 80/20 meme is like 100% real IRL. 80% are effectively incel who get sex through sheer luck and constant approaching/extreme effort to do so.
>>84440258It reads on top of the chart that it's the share of all the reported sexual encounters so they have fifth of all the sex.
>>8444031720% of the reported sexual encounters are from the 99th percentile. I see now. Weird chart and title typical academic mumbo jumbo wording.
>>84440251>Well some white nationalists of the mid 20th century literally killed 2 of the most prominent nonconformist and conformists black leaders in the USAWho gives a shit? The world is not one giant USA nor does it want to be.94% of humanity doesn't give a shit at all about burger niggers, nor should they.>There is literally threads and posts about hating women on here running 24/7. there's a big amount of robots who cheer on killings of womenAnd? I see you make no attempts on trying to understand why.Women can do no wrong to you, right? It can't possibly be that women's collective behavior led to this. Noooo, it has to be men's fault somehow that women of 2026 are basically subhuman whores compared to their already brutally degenerate boomer grandmothers.If anything, women aren't being hated enough, in fact. Not even on this board.
>>84438413>thirty-twooth
>>84439102Humans...>>84438783Genetic hygiene? Genetic fitness bitch. Grit. Toughness.
>>8444025192% of sexual encounters are with men in the top 20%, with 44% going to just the top 5% and 20% of sexual encounters to the top 1% of men only. We are well, well beyond 80/20 now and it's only going to get worse. You might feel like a comfortable chadlite with a bodycount of like 15 but that kind of number means you're on the chopping block.
>>84438413>Lets ignore that single moms raise the most convicts and failuresSasuga, scientists
>>84440366>94% of humanity doesn't give a shit at all about burger niggers, nor should they.By that logic I shouldn't care for USA/Euro ethno nationalists either, which is where 99% of this non sense comes from. But you guys keep coming online and making literally everything about race so you can recruit, then get pissy at other people adopting your tactics to make fun of the grafting of non related ideas.>And? I see you make no attempts on trying to understand why.Women can do no wrong to you, right? It can't possibly be that women's collective behavior led to this.Nah, the root cause is that there is an excess amount of young men, young women being shit nowadays is a symptom of that not the cause. They simple don't have much impulse to improve of self reflect when it comes to having a partner because there's an excess amount of young men who will simp and sacrifice for them. Then there's the minority of excess young men who will literally kill, sexually harrass, or rape them (which gives them a point). The disturbing part is that men hating and women hating feeds off each other and just ruins every topic in this finger pointing game where they use each others worst shit behaviors to inflame the neutral and fence sitters into joining them. It's destined to JUST breed resentment and lead to unnecessary bloodshed, worst yet it just lowers the level of public dialogue.0/10, poison to quality shit posting.
>>84440638>which is where 99% of this non sense comes fromTell me you haven't traveled at all without telling me. The moderate ethno nationalists in Ethiopia or Iraq make the most violent white nationalists in europe or commie BLMers look like faggots in comparison.Ethnonationalism is normal, anon. You may not like it (not a big fan of it either) but it's absolutely normal. YOU are the weirdo.>worst yet it just lowers the level of public dialogueoh noooo, not the public dialogue.forgive me for not giving a shit about the level of public dialogue in a "civilization" that has publicly and institutionally despised me and discriminated against me on the basis of my sex for exactly 100% of my lifetime.
>public dialoguethis doesnt help anyone in most topics and it most certainly doesnt help men in this topic
>>84440430Nah, there's loads of women who fuck around, they just tend to keep quiet about it. Also, I'm part of the 8% of men because of how many prostitutes I've shagged, despite being a loser who gets little to no women otherwise.>We are well, well beyond 80/20 now and it's only going to get worse.dating app data doesn't take into account the women and men on them aren't a reflection of the general population. instead what you see is a minority of female accounts hooking up with the best of the majority of men. This is a function of the excess amount of men, and the lower personal risk nature of being able to have sex with an entity that can't beat you physically and not have the social risk of being seen as a whore/slut.
>>84438413>provide women with the economic and social resources necessary for them to conclude that having children alone makes for a better life than remaining childless.Wrong.1. Career women don't have kids because they have career ambitions greater than their desire to spend time having kids, unless you mean filling daycares with unloved babies then okay.2. Dysgenic women are the biggest detriment to the genome. This is because men inherit most of their genes from their mother. So even if you gave every woman chad sperm, you'll just be crashing the genetic hygiene of the nation and setting yourself up to collapse and or be invaded.Many an incel has a chad lite dad and a dysgenic mom. Women complain about incels and ask "where have the good men gone", but behind every dysgenic incel is a dysgenic woman, ie, women are women's worst enemy.
>>84438413Why is it that science types are trying to do everything except correct hypergamy and correct the rampant pollution and correct the low quality food supply and correct the falling testosterone levels?
>>84440682>2. Dysgenic women are the biggest detriment to the genome. This is because men inherit most of their genes from their mother. So even if you gave every woman chad sperm, you'll just be crashing the genetic hygiene of the nation and setting yourself up to collapse and or be invaded.How does an average career woman getting impregnated by a random high-quality donation qualify as bad "genetic hygiene"? What does that even mean? Do you think genes cares about marital status or what? I'm honestly curious.
>>84440687>correct hypergamycan't be done because women are wonderful. Nothing that would mildly inconvenience foids is acceptable.>correct the rampant pollutionUnless you live in India, there is far LESS pollution today than 50 years ago.>correct the low quality food supply Unless you live in the US, the food supply is actually just fine and better than 50 years ago. A lot better in the case of Europe and most of Asia (again, except India).>correct the falling testosterone levels?Mythology based on a single flawed study from 5 years ago. T levels aren't falling on a population level.
>>84440687Cos they are the ultimate conformists. They are always going on and on about the consensus.
>>84440650>Tell me you haven't traveled at all without telling me. The moderate ethno nationalists in Ethiopia or Iraq make the most violent white nationalists in europe or commie BLMers look like faggots in comparison.Ethnonationalism is normal, anon.And they are shitholes full of easily exploited war torn people, I don't want any part of that. Why do I as an 4chan degenerate care for what is normal anyway? I live on the fringes of society that constantly changes its mind about normal.Also most people in this world bond with people who share the same language as each other, that used to mean people that you can easily travel to. But nowadays you can travel everywhere relatively cheaply and safely.>oh noooo, not the public dialogue.forgive me for not giving a shit about the level of public dialogue in a "civilization" that has publicly and institutionally despised me and discriminated against me on the basis of my sex for exactly 100% of my lifetime.Brother you just got brainwashed by the people moot tried to isolate on then /news/ and now /pol/, Neo-Nazi's are a mental virus. They constantly with goad the disenfranchised young men to be their boots or front facing propaganda on the ground to manifest their fucked up ASPD desires of death and destruction, they have no intention of making the world a better place for the men they subvert at all, in fact they are the worse people to hate you for it, they don't even make much effort to hide it (Untermensch).
>>84440725>>correct the falling testosterone levels?>Mythology based on a single flawed study from 5 years ago. T levels aren't falling on a population level.I agree with the rest of your point but this one's plainly not true. It's been studied in many different ways, for example in different age groups, or in the military. Here's a different one to yours that says the same thing, from this year actually:>Overall, the contemporary testosterone decline represents a complex, multifactorial public health issue requiring integrated approaches to preserve hormonal and systemic health.>One of the most striking aspects of the documented testosterone decline is its age-independent nature, meaning that men of all ages are experiencing lower testosterone levels compared to men of the same age in previous decades.PMID: 41596342Title: Understanding the Secular Decline in Testosterone: Mechanisms, Consequences, and Clinical Perspectives
>>84440760>Neo-Nazi's are a mental virusneo-nazis are a bad meme. they're not real. you're the one scared of shadows.that doesn't change the fact that this "civilization" has been publicly and institutionally despising and discriminating against me on the basis of my sex for exactly 100% of my lifetime.It wasn't /pol/ that refused me entry to university to favor a less qualified/dumber foid. It was affirmative action, something really dear to this "civilization" that has hurt my entire generation.It wasn't /pol/ that convinced me women deserve a lot more hate that they're currently getting. Heck, /pol/ didn't exist yet when I became convinced by this. It was women's behavior that convinced me.It wasn't /news/ or /pol/ that wrote the article in the OP.Feel free to believe whatever you want but you're attributing power and efficiency to a bunch of retards (neo nazis, commies, same shit to me - cretinous retards) while intentionally and obtusely avoiding the issue. And the issue is women.
>>84440707It doesn't. Inseminating dysgenic women causes bad genetic hygiene.>"genetic hygiene"Overally genetic fitness of a place.>genes cares about marital statusNo.
>>84440854Dysgenic why? This hypothetical person reproduced. That's better than 60% of people in 2026.
>>84440786>neo-nazis are a bad meme. they're not real.How can you say that with a straight face? like you've never seen a pol thread admiring Hitler or someone quoting 1488 here before?>that doesn't change the fact that this "civilization" has been publicly and institutionally despising and discriminating against me on the basis of my sex for exactly 100% of my lifetime.Yeah I agree, this fucked up interruption of intersectionality needs to go, just support broadly the poor/disenfranchised or focus on all these issues based on good rational weighted support structure for all of the struggling.>It wasn't /pol/ that refused me entry to university to favor a less qualified/dumber foid. It was affirmative action, something really dear to this "civilization" that has hurt my entire generation.Are you sure about that? like were you on there on /pol/ when they tricked boomers enough to swing the vote to Trump? Or the consistent effort that is going on in threads like this to make being incel an ethnic issue, and not what it really is, just broke young men in general.
>>84440920b8 or extremely stupid. Either way, you're not worth engaging any further.>just support broadly the poor/disenfranchisedNeah. Fuck the poor. The poor deserve to be poor. And socialists (be it national socialists or international socialists) should be shot in the head on the spot. Subhuman scum the whole lot.
>>84440942You call me stupid, but what you've said is purely emotional dogma.
>>84438413There are only 2 roles in life.Men, fighter and protector.Women, baby maker.Mess with the natural order of things, and this is what we get.
>>84438413Nah. Western countries will start realizing they need good genetic workers to survive, so we do not end up like idiocracy. We will get Brave New World and have engineered babies in artificial wombs.
>>84440707>How does an average career woman getting impregnated by a random high-quality donation qualify as bad "genetic hygiene"?They dont that >1. Career women don't have kids because they have career ambitions greater than their desire to spend time having kids, Bad genetic hygiene is from women categories that have kids (they are not career women). Low life women have more kids and low life are generally low iq and everything else low.
>>84441107This is the way that made Europe great in the past. Nobody held hand of the poors. European civilization was build by respectable burgers who could enjoy fruits of their labor instead of been effectively taxed by 60-70% of their income.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornelis_Corneliszoon_van_Uitgeest
>>84438620>My shithole might be Brown but at least we don't have this crazy shit here.yet
>>84441414Bourgeoise civilization is overrated. It's all very warlike and nationalistic.
>>84438970The origins are possibly the black death.Massive depopulation and early industrialisation drove men off the land attracted by higher wage earning jobsagriculture was forced to innovate and a form of free market was developed as people were no longer tied to estates.That's where the European Marriage Pattern took off, you must develop yourself and become able to sustain a household instead of multigenerational families where the girls marry early and breed as soon as they hit puberty.Instead average age of first marriage was 22 for centuries, many men and women didn't marry.living as spinsters or bachelors. quality of life was better and those able to sustain a good life for themselves were able to support a family, and their subsequent descendents retained the genetic and cultural ability to sustain a living.It was unique.
>>84441414Not as clean cut as that, it got a lot of influence from along the silk road, algebra being an example of a major stepping stone for math & technology from Islamic scholars at the time.Also throughout much of that time there was mandatory conscription or drafts, and the wars were brutal and constant. Most peasants were glorified field niggers without a good chance of social mobility even if they had a bit of talent and discipline.The flat taxes are a downgrade in an age where wealth can compound so quickly negatively or positively, the church also had a tithe of 10% Stop trying to burn everything down, and maybe life wouldn't be so shit.
>>84441512>That's where the European Marriage Pattern took off, you must develop yourself and become able to sustain a household instead of multigenerational families where the girls marry early and breed as soon as they hit puberty.There is no one European Marriage Pattern, Europe has several marriage patterns...Authoritarian Nuclear, where the firstborn son stays in the family home and the other children leave.Egalitarian and Absolute Nuclear, where all the children LEAVE the family home.And in some regions of France and Italy, as well as Russia, Exogamous Communitarian, which is the multi-generational households you're thinking of. But it's quite rare in Europe outside the former Mongol occupied regions.So no, neolocation (adults leaving the family home to start a new one) is not a product of the Black Death, it actually dates back to the stone age.Likewise contrary to popular belief the Catholic Church didn't come up with the idea of not marrying your cousin; it was already taboo or illegal in most of Europe and the Church merely adopted it among the many European customs and traditions it picked up.
>>84441531>The flat taxes are a downgrade in an age where wealth can compound so quickly negatively or positively, the church also had a tithe of 10% Stop trying to burn everything down, and maybe life wouldn't be so shit.Gouging the middle class for 70% of their income hasn't stopped the wealthy from becoming wealthier and the poor becoming poorer, why don't you stop trying to rob working people.
>>84441536Perhaps I went too far, but the black death happened at a time of early societal development, it decimated populations, especially urban areas of the 14th century and definitely amplified change.It built on existing patterns.
>>84441541>Gouging the middle class for 70% of their income hasn't stopped the wealthy from becoming wealthier and the poor becoming poorer, why don't you stop trying to rob working people.Then actually start taxing rich people, even Bill gates and George Soros think they should be taxed more, they just don't want to be at a disadvantage to their fellow billionaire overlords.
>>84438413>nonconformist white men are considered a threat and will be ostracized through various means to keep them pacifiedThe democrats and big pharma kikes have turned white male children into permanant cash cows by crippling them with vaccines, chemtrails, and GMO slop, and then psyopping/demoralizing the white parents into thinking that it's over for their children so that they would put them into mental health facilities and group homes.They damage the white male individuals even further by pushing the woke DEI agendas in every single mental health facility and group home, and replacing all of the competent staff with obedient leftist NPC retards. The attacks don't even stop there; the democrats and big pharma kikes designed the mental health facilities and group home systems to prevent white males from reproducing while some of their money goes towards paying the obedient leftist NPC staff, who then uses that money to shit out a couple babies and raise them to become obedient leftist NPC retards.The worst part about being a white male in a group home system is that nobody cares about you, and even the staff hates you for being born a white male, yet you are forced to communicate with them every single day. The subtle symbolism in picrel shows the true intention of the entire mental health system in jew york, yet the sheeple of the US will continue to ignore it.
>>84440226It's socialist propaganda. They're arguing for more money to be transferred to women in order to get them to reproduce without a partner, and the creation of communal childcare centers so children can be raised by the collective rather than a family. Something something robots and AI, it doesn't matter that men will stop working.
>>84438413This is funny cause they are making it possible to make gametes out of skincells. This would make it possible for same sex couples to have bio kids but it would also remove the limits that women have for having a baby.In the future women can ride chads till she is 69 and then settle down with a beta provider
>>84438413>feminism and modernization has lead to a fertility crisis>our solution is to make everything even shittier
>>84442078And then they wonder why young men are checking out of society
>>84442054>They're arguing for more money to be transferred to women in order to get them to reproduce without a partner,According to Thomas Sowell they did this with social welfare in the US, they created policies that disincentivised men in the home because they got more government handouts with him not there and this dropped the number of blacks raised by their father to 25% from like 60%.You can see the efftects in the following decades of black degradation.They want the same for everyone.
>>84442078Everybody should click this link and browse through it because it's another reminder of how retarded everything is.The main gist of the abstract is that women cannot find "good enough" partners which is why they don't have children. This immediately identifies it as an ideology piece: not only do women get knocked up by randoms all the time, but this also wouldn't fly if you reverse the sexes.Just take this article and rewrite it. Imagine that next week, Cambridge publishes the following:"Men cannot find "good enough" women to have children so yeah there's nothing we can do, we must restructure all of society and make women pay more taxes, sorry gals, if only there was something we could do... but clearly men need better women so all of society has to play along, our hands are tied..."
>>84438413There's definitely a pair-bonding and mating problem but so-called experts really have to stop pretending that everything is men's fault.In my family, the generation before me all had 2-3 kids. None of them grew up poor so there wasn't any huge financial pressure either, their lifestyle just led to them meeting people and falling in love and pairing up. All of them had mediocre jobs and mid looks.So what exactly is different between them in the 80s/90s and me today? Well that's the part they don't wanna talk about. It's that despite their mid-tier jobs they all have houses and two cars, were able to marry and raise kids and have big social circles. Clearly something else changed around us. Because I have a better job, a higher salary on paper, but my purchasing power is nowhere near what they had.
>>84442869Yeah, sometimes I look at a woman and imagine a nice life, then I realise it comes with a side of crushing servitude for life for less than what my grand dad had in a dead end factory job. It's such a bitter thing to have to tell your child I gave you less than what my forefathers did.
>>84443709We know who are opressors are but who will bell the cat.
