>>84451149
I read this far:
>I am sexually attracted to men

My diagnosis:
You are a faggot.

>>84451149
>only exception to this rule is when ovulation hits
Probably just low libido then. Same happened to me when I got on meds that lower sex drive. I might notice very attractive women in public, but I'd have to force myself to think of sex if I decided to, like it didn't come naturally. Then I started doing shit to fix my libido and like taking a few supplements and now it happens again sometimes.

do you have low self esteem or high self esteem?

>>84451183
Even when im ovulating i dont think of people I have seen or know. I think of a fictive person, who have traits I find attractive. I dont know its been like this since I was young.
>Then I started doing shit to fix my libido and like taking a few supplements and now it happens again sometimes.
Maybe your demi sexual too anon. If youve felt this way since you were young you might.
>>84451187
Generally low id say. Like i cant see why anyone would pick me out of a crowd. Nor do I find myself interesting or worthwhile. Its been like this since I was 13 i think.

>>84451237
>If youve felt this way since you were young you might.
No, I would think of fucking random women I knew or saw in public when I was younger. Like I said, it stopped when I got on medication that lowers libido so I was just never really interested in sex for a time, I just preferred doing other stuff instead of fapping. However, nowadays I don't really know if I actually want to have sex. I sincerely doubt it can be as pleasurable as masturbation, and masturbation is already just OK. It's also super complicated to both achieve and peform which is offputting.

>>84451261
Now that youre off the meds that lowered your sex drive, maybe it takes a bit of time? I think supplements and working out should fix it, unless youre past a certain age. Then its normal to get lower sex drive.
>I actually want to have sex
Say it was easy to get a lovely partner who you found attractive. Would you still feel that way you think?

>>84451301
I'm not off the meds, just added some stuff like maca.
>Say it was easy to get a lovely partner who you found attractive. Would you still feel that way you think?
If it was as easy as "push button, get nice gf" then I'd probably try it in the same way you might try a different flavor of food or a walking down a different path to see what it's like. But in reality we're talking about an actual human being who wouldn't really be down to that. It's especially tricky because I don't want to have casual sex, it'd have to be with someone that I'm together with in a long term relationship, but I also don't really know if I'd end up not liking IRL sex. I'm autistic and have a bunch of sensory issues, it could easily feel overwhelming.

>>84451237
maybe you're a perfectionist and you just never think you're good enough. because demisexuals with high self esteem would think the inverse: nobody else is good enough.
those are the ones that are saving themselves for someone special. they're patient and they can wait. whereas the person you're waiting for is probably yourself.

>>84451357
>I'm not off the meds, just added some stuff like maca
Oh? Why do you need the meds. If you get off them the problem is probably gonna be solved.
>But in reality we're talking about an actual human being who wouldn't really be down to that
Why do you think they wouldn't be down?
> I don't want to have casual sex
Understandable
>I'm autistic and have a bunch of sensory issues, it could easily feel overwhelming.
I never even thought of that. Do some people struggle with sensory issues due to sex?

Overal I think you believe that you dont want it since you have never had it and you dont know what its like. You never know before you've tried! And its entire possible you get a nice gf. And I dont want to hear you say the opposite.

>>84451392
>maybe you're a perfectionist and you just never think you're good enough.
Hm i do think like that. But I think that even if i was perfect I would think of people sexually just like that.
>nobody else is good enough.
Sounds kinda arrogant don't you think?
>those are the ones that are saving themselves for someone special. they're patient and they can wait. whereas the person you're waiting for is probably yourself.
I mean i am waiting for someone special desu. But I do agree that I am also waiting for myself to be goid enough for others. I dunno, social media has kinda fucked up the way I think others see me. I see all these beautiful girls that look so different from me, and i think
>who would want me when they exist?
Like why would anyone pick me? Thus I feel like I have to first get everything about.me to get better before even trying. And I think that even if i reached that point, I wouldn't see why anyone would go for me.

>>84451449
>Why do you need the meds. If you get off them the problem is probably gonna be solved
It's for anxiety, and it's not really a huge problem, loss of libido just makes me do other things instead. However I did think it got a bit TOO blunt, I need to cum with some regularity to clean up my prostate, and I was never in the mood, plus it wasn't very enjoyable when I tried getting into it. Maca has been nice, it just kind of slightly tunes up the pleasure in most daily activities.
>Why do you think they wouldn't be down?
Most women expect regular sex in a relationship.
>Do some people struggle with sensory issues due to sex?
I already don't really like it when people touch me to begin with, and I think kissing looks kinda gross. Sex is full of noises, smells, contact, fluids etc.
>You never know before you've tried!
It's very possible to know you wouldn't or probably wouldn't like something without trying. Would you like to participate in a scat orgy with midgets anointed in olive oil? Extreme example, but it gets the point across. I'm not 100% sure I wouldn't like sex, but it's like seeing something that looks kinda interesting and realizing it costs 100x more than you're willing to pay.
>its entire possible you get a nice gf
It's about as possible as winning the lottery. Consider that men are forced to go chasing and trying to impress women, and that I don't think it's worth it because my interest isn't high enough to put myself through the grueling process of dating. Then the fact that I have actual autism, no social skills, a dislike of social events, a large degree of detachment from mainstream culture and a plethora of specific needs, and it all greatly reduces the amount of women whose personalities would match me. And all of that shit just to try something that may or may not be enjoyable.

>>84451512
Wow you really do have low libido
>It's for anxiety, and it's not really a huge problem
Hm, how long have you had anxiety?
>Most women expect regular sex in a relationship
Once you (hopefully) get of the meds I think it would be ok. You would probably bounce right back up.
> but it's like seeing something that looks kinda interesting and realizing it costs 100x more than you're willing to pay
I mean i think this is due to the fact that you are still on the meds. I mean it makes sex more unappealing in general, of course you would wager that having Intimacy is eh mid. And i dont know why you think it would cost too much besides the low libido, which in theory can be fixed. Why do you think having a partner or getting one is tedious?
>It's about as possible as winning the lottery
Hm. When you put it like that....
I get why ou feel that way, as the current dating scene is ass and youre neuro divergent. But the possibility is still there, and i think there is quite the big chance that you would like it. I mean there might have been times in youre life where the chance was there? I dont know your situation much so i cant say much on it. But the payoff might be worth it.

>>84451675
>Hm, how long have you had anxiety?
It's chronic, I might have GAD, but it could also be downstream from the autism.
>Once you (hopefully) get of the meds
I'm on them for life. The choice is really easy: better orgasms versus no insomnia, no rumination, no overreaction, and a cool weird dream every night as a bonus.
>i think this is due to the fact that you are still on the meds
I never really chased girls even when I was a super horny teenager. It just doesn't happen naturally when you're very introverted and don't like meeting people or socializing.
>Why do you think having a partner or getting one is tedious?
Because the main pathways are:
1. Dating apps. Not happening. They require a Herculean amount of effort to even just get *a* date, but it's extremely unlikely that I'll enjoy the company of the normie women that can be found in them, let alone the 1 out of 100 that might like me back.
2. Going to parties, clubs, nightlife etc. My personality is about as incompatible with this as it gets.
3. Joining groups related to my specific interests and happening to meet a woman, then we both like each other. Also a very low probability thing, combined with the fact that I prefer doing my interests rather than hanging around people who talk about them, plus having no idea how people even get relationships from that shit, like I've been in Discord servers where people I talked to dated or turned out to have gotten lewd in PMs, what? Do you just go "hey bby want suk dik" in between public channel discussions about your hobby?

>>84451675
Sorry for responding so late, I had to do some chores :(

>I'm on them for life. The choice is really easy: better orgasms versus no insomnia, no rumination, no overreaction, and a cool weird dream every night as a bonus.
Shiieet. Youve had anxiety since forever? Do you think it can be caused my external factors? Like modern living, family, trauma ect.?
> 1. Dating apps
Okey I agree with you
> 2. Parties clubs and nightlife
Okey I see that since you got tism and its objectively a shitty environment
>I prefer doing my interests rather than hanging around people who talk about them
A bit antisocial are we? I think this one is your best bet, but I also find it very intriguing that you seem to not want to socialise at all. Its kinda strange to me as socialising is treated like its necessary for human flourishing.
>I've been in Discord servers where people I talked to dated or turned out to have gotten lewd in PMs, what? Do you just go "hey bby want suk dik" in between public channel discussions about your hobby?
You know what i agree with you there. I find it incredibly bizzare that people are that comfortable and feel that way right off the bat. The fact that people send nudes os incredibly weird to me. Hence why I am questioning wether im demi seggusal

>>84451747
I even replied to myself wow. Sorry anon this one's for you >>84451747

>>84451911
God i clicked wrong AGAIN
>>84451747
This one is for you. >>84451903

>>84451903
>Do you think it can be caused my external factors? Like modern living, family, trauma ect.?
I'm pretty sure it's built in. My mind has a tendency to get stuck on things and repeat them over and over, the medication fixes it really well and I'm calm just the way I like it.
>very intriguing that you seem to not want to socialise at all. Its kinda strange to me as socialising is treated like its necessary for human flourishing
I dislike 99% about socializing. I can enjoy specific humans or have certain conversations like this one, but I have always been averse to social rituals and constantly feel a strong desire to be alone. I used to have IRL friends that carried over from back when I was in school, but I drifted away because I constantly felt the urge to leave and go home. That's another impediment for a relationship, it'd have to be with someone who also hates socializing and respects my space, preferably also wanting to be by herself at times too so we get each other. Which is super rare, I've rarely met people for whom being social is a negative rather than the default as it is for me.
>The fact that people send nudes os incredibly weird to me. Hence why I am questioning wether im demi seggusal
Well demisexuality is more of a helpful label than a "real" sexuality imo, it sounds more like a style of normal sexual behavior. Plenty of people also don't think much about sex most of the time, and from personal experience it happened to me when my libido dropped so I know that's at least one possible cause. Being horny makes you more impulsive and prone to overlook important considerations. And then there's insecurity and craving for validation which drives a lot of such behavior.

>>84451149
I'm like you, because I also wish being demisexual is normal, but sadly it isn't. This is probably why I don't really get dates either, because my dating app profile is really geared towards getting to know someone platonically first. I think I spoke to you yesterday (I'm from the UK, which should be a big clue).

>>84451992
>I'm pretty sure it's built in. My mind has a tendency to get stuck on things and repeat them over and over
You would make a terrific hunter gatherer anon. I think the crux of it all is that modern society wasnt built with ND people in mind whatsoever. Thats why you gotta take the meds.
>but I have always been averse to social rituals and constantly feel a strong desire to be alone.
Wait anon, is your detached way of life effecting you in any way negatively? Do you think that in the long run, it will be a downside? Like if you want kids or a family ect...
>I've rarely met people for whom being social is a negative rather than the default as it is for me.
I think if you found one the only real struggle between you two would maybe be communicating. Hearing you say this is quite interesting, I myself have been speculating that I have slight neuro divergence, but wow this shit really goes deep.
>it sounds more like a style of normal sexual behavior.
You damn straight about that. Its just a style of sexual attraction. Now since i have never reallt wanted someone sexually I started contemplating wether thats the norm. Then again I have never been very close with a member of the opposite gender, never really spent time alone with anyone as I dont go out much, and if i do, its alone.
>Being horny makes you more impulsive and prone to overlook important considerations. And then there's insecurity and craving for validation which drives a lot of such behavior.
I agree with you there that it is an overal positive. I havent put myself in uncomfortable spots due to lust, which is a massive W. And i think it also prevents a person from becoming too degenerate as your sexuality is restricted to getting to know someone really well. Overall its a positive. But I do think about wether I am the one with normal behaviour and that everyone else have consumed too much sexual media and thus became a degen of sorts.

>>84452104
YOU, AW I READ THE THREAD AND I JUST HAVE TO SAY YOURE SOOOOO COOOOL!! I ALSO COLLECT HISTORICAL ITEMS. I HAVE A WW2 ERA GERMAN BAYONET! AND AN AMERICAN ONE FROM 1903!!!

>>84451149
>I am sexually attracted to men but i dont think of men in real life sexually
this describes 99% of women. women's sexual desire activates in sex proximal context only, where it's default constant for guys which exists as non-sexual as well.

similar to there being independant process that determines wanting(once have it) vs liking(desiring to actively seek out) - see Berridge & Robinson, 2016 for more

see also
https://praxonian.substack.com/p/men-are-into-women-more-than-women
and
https://praxonian.substack.com/p/womens-subjective-vs-genital-sexual

>>84452120
>I HAVE A WW2 ERA GERMAN BAYONET! AND AN AMERICAN ONE FROM 1903!!!
You're very cool too :) Do you want to talk elsewhere? What platform(s) do you use? I ended up sleeping quite late last night replying after doing my chores, but I don't think I can do it again tonight lol.

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Aw anon, youre a massive sweetheart and I like you very much. But I am generally wary of adding people off here and I dont really fair well talking with people online. 4chan is me talking to a void of sorts, a place where i can talk with little consequences. I have tried adding some people off here to talk but I have a nasty habit of ghosting, as I struggle with talking with people over the phone and I dont really like texting. I have discord, I dont use it often, and its the only social media I got besides youtube and tumblr?. I have tumblr too but I dont use it at all really. But I can try, however I dont like calls, nor do I really like texting. I like talking and meeting people physically for the most part. And I dont feel like I can give a friendship or relationship over the phone my all, and i want to be a good friend or partner but I dont feel like I can be that for you. Now I can give you my disc if you want.

Picrel is another drawing of Peter steele that I made :D

>>84452145
My dumbass forgot to tag you sorry
>>84452262
Here ya go

>>84452262
I think you're very sweet too. I'm not expecting much, I just think we'll have lots to talk about, and it'd be nice to have a comfy private space. I don't really like calling either, but I don't think we need to "text" per se. We can just communicate as we are doing now, and we certainly don't need to talk everyday if you don't want to. I don't really use social media so I think discord is the best.
>Picrel is another drawing of Peter steele that I made :D
I really wonder how long it took you to draw him like that. Almost like a scan of a picture I found of him on google.

Anyway, here's my discord: henry_the_survivor

>>84452106
>You would make a terrific hunter gatherer anon
Lol, doubt it, I'm also not very outdoorsy or good with my hands, just a nerd.
>is your detached way of life effecting you in any way negatively?
Kinda, because as you said the world isn't really fit for me, there are a lot of barriers if you're not good at crap like networking.
>Like if you want kids or a family
I don't want kids at all.
>since i have never reallt wanted someone sexually I started contemplating wether thats the norm
I know a guy like that, he said he had a very light crush on a girl in high school but other than that he's since transcended human sexuality, motherfucker could not care less about real flesh and blood humans over his stupid fictional characters (waifufag etc). Kinda admirable.
>I do think about wether I am the one with normal behaviour and that everyone else have consumed too much sexual media and thus became a degen of sorts.
Nah IMO you're not weird nor are they "degen", humans are just a very horny species, but you're more on the low end.

>>84452323
I have a very cool method of drawing desu. I have limited supply but what I do is look at an image, replicate it with a pencil. Erase lightly and then cover it al woth a marker. Then use a pen that is the same colour as the marker and draw the outline and colour it in. Then use it to draw the shadows, then use the plac pen to draw all the dark parts such as hair and mouth and yada yada. Peter steele makes for such a good subject because he has such dark air and very dark features so the style works nicely.

I'll add you anon, the name is rebirth and I have ted as my pfp

>>84452357
>Lol, doubt it, I'm also not very outdoorsy or good with my hands, just a nerd.
But here's the thing anon, you would be if you were a hunter gatherer. And fine motorskills are learnable anyway
>there are a lot of barriers if you're not good at crap like networking.
Yeah, on the brighter(?) Side NT people are beginning to suffer too, so I think, I at least hope, the system will be changed.
>I don't want kids at all.
Noted, and also, that checks.
>transcended human sexuality, motherfucker could not care less about real flesh and blood humans over his stupid fictional characters (waifufag etc). Kinda admirable.
That is not adimrable lmao. Thats hilarious but very sad. The guy is suffering from abnormal parasocial relationships. And its not even parasocial with like a real human but a fucking drawing. Not admirable at all desu. But it can be quite practical to curb your desire.
>humans are just a very horny species
Yeah I could tell, everything is about sex. Which is both disturbing and annoying. But I guess im just on the lower end of the spectrum like you said.

>>84452659
>you would be if you were a hunter gatherer
Well speculative, I think I'd probably be a "scavenger" (read: hobo).
>fine motorskills are learnable anyway
Actually not in my case, I have dysgraphia and generally poor hand-eye coordination.
>NT people are beginning to suffer too
Eh I'm skeptical, people are just louder and whinier because of social media. Also most of human history is just suffering, misery, famine, tyranny and bloodshed anyway.
>I guess im just on the lower end of the spectrum
I think so, like you seem to care enough about it to think sex might be good/worth it even if you haven't felt very attracted to anyone, possibly because you don't have the same aversion to people that I have to weigh as negatively on the scale even with a low baseline desire.