>My 19-year-old gf held my brother's newborn>Now all she talks about is having her own baby
Maternal instincts are fucking scary, its like a parasite that completely overtakes and brainwashes sensible women and turns them into emotion-driven passionless baby crazed husks of their former selves. I firmly believe post-partum depression is actually just the brief moment when mothers break away from their hormonal brainwashing and become lucid again.
The question is how do I fix her?
>>84464994Women evolved to raise babies.literally all they did growing up was look after the babies of their tribe with their sisters, cousins, aunts, and other relatives.imagine how the female brain reacts to these instincts when they aren't surrounded by screaming kids...Damn, think of all the corpos selling plastic baby dolls to little girls, when you think about it there's a lot of room for imprinting and manipulation
Have kids early so they dont turn autistic
>>84464994Pregnant women make me so horny. The peak of femininity is her waddling around 9 months pregnant looking like she's about to burst, belly button popped out, skin covered in stretchmarks, breasts swollen and nipples darkened. Just a big, helpless, living incubator.
>>84465019foids exist to have kids and raise them until they're old enough to be taught by men. This is normal hag-kun.
>>84465019>I firmly believe post-partum depression is actually just the brief moment when mothers break away from their hormonal brainwashing and become lucid again.Post-partum depression is just attention hangover. Women are addicted to attention like cats are addicted to catnip. The moment they get knocked up, they'll get all the attention in the world so it's like a constant high of attention. But as soon as the baby is born, all the attention goes to the newborn so they lose all the attention they got. That's why some mothers try to force their kids to achieve something from a very young age just so they can revive the attention now as being the Gold Standard Mother.
>>84465019>>84465068Hormonal psychosis is real plan b gave it to me for a bit and so did the mini pill. Some women are very sensitive to hormones. I get bad pms too, starting fights and acting schizo as well as bloating and getting adult acne. I know if I got pregnant and gave birth I'd kill the thing you need to have more empathy. Some women are just too sensitive for all the hormones
>>84465019>emotion-driven passionless husksThat's all women. Some are baby crazed.
>Now all she talks about is having her own babyImpregnate her.
whoops i fucked up
>>84465029get her pregnant dude, is there a reason you don't want to marry her?
>>84465059im aware, but that doesnt make it any less terrifying how someones entire personhood is basically erased and replaced with baby-worshipping hivemind brain. I will always remember how my best friend went from being logical, independent, and cool, just to get pregant and become a submissive soulless stepford wives character who only ever talked about her unborn baby or about how much she loves her shitty boyfriend (now ex-boyfriend lol). Astronomy used to be her lifes passion, and she was studying to become an astronomer, but once she got pregnant she completely abandoned her lifelong dreams and lost all passion. It was so freaky to witness.
>>84465029shit your pants and demand she clean itthen tell her thats exactly what changing a diaper is for the next few years
>>84464994>>84465019>>84465030This is funny cope since women still choose to work and be single over marriage and having kids, now more than ever.
>>84465184>chooseOriginal.
>>84465019>>84465137The funny thing is that the baby-loving aspiring mother is the true personality and the independent career woman is the result of brainwashing.
>>84465191Yes I'm a cis man.>>84465198Of course? Any non-deformed woman under 50 could easily become a house wife. More women now than ever becore would rather do the most soulless boring jobs on earth than be with a man who supports her.>>84465321Keep telling yourself that.
>>84465331Baby-loving mother/aspiring mother was the default for hundreds of thousands or even millions of years.Independent career woman has only been a thing for 50-100 years. Cope.
>>84464994all i think about all day every day is killing myself but when i visit family and i help watch the babies its genuinely like the world has color in it again for the first time. it's some biological bullshit but it's real and it's beautiful in a way. i wish i was mentally healthy enough to be a mother.
>>84465030I do not feel this shit at all. Babies majorly gross me out, like they even smell like trash and vomit to me. I never liked baby dolls either, and found them gross even when I were like 4. It is honestly wild to me that most women find babies cute. Humans have the most monstrous looking children imaginable.
>>84465440How is it natural when women were strictly forbiden from doing otherwise and immediately sprint from it when given the freedom to?
>>84465494now this is what a loser female looks like
>>84465494Thats probably due to humans effectively giving birth prematurely, because doing it any later would mean the head is to big to fit through the vajayjay. If that werent a factor apparently we'd be preggers for around a year or so.
>>84465545I get that but like damn how come my ancestors all reproduced to this day all while hating babies. Really makes you think. My lineage should have died out millennia ago but because men have no standards they were forced to suffer endlessly
>>84465562As a man, I also think newborns look like weird ugly aliens, but luckily I can just have the woman deal with the creature and go do something else until it learns to walk and talk. Hope this helps!
>>84465608Dirty priviledged moid, die desu
>>84465540Women always had jobs. Weaving, spinning, candle making, selling produce. Housewife was the exception. Not the norm
>>84465669oi at least try to be funny when you throw out insults, this is just rude
>>84465683Nah, housewife was just expected to be all those things.Keeping house meant really keeping house.
>>84465691What do you mean, I thought that was funny because it is so bland and standard it cant be read as sincere
>>84465184Hey fembot, did you grow up surrounded by babies and find childcare normal?If not you don't get to argue with biology.
>>84465683Women couldn't have bank accounts until 1974 lmao. None of the jobs they held were capable of giving them an independent respectable life until recently.
>>84465742Bank accounts werent essential for independent life until recently, people made do with just cash transactions. Banks were only for loaning.
>>84465739I dont spend much time on this board, my mistake if this is just common banter here
Yeah, that oxytocin is a bitch. Holding a baby does all of that. It's why I cannot hold another's baby.
>>84465753Banks can be used to hold money. Being the moron who left it in their mattress is stupid. Someone my dad worked with did that and someone broke into his home and stole it all.
>>84465761Cuz he fucking told. Don't BLAB about your money in banks or not. What a dipshit
>>84465753Yeah you can't live a respectable life without loans and still their wages were very low.
>>84465820>Yeah you can't live a respectable lifeYour brain on burgers. Loans are virtually nonexistent in slavic or muslim cultures, and people still manage to live respectable lives there.
>>84465019>its like a parasiteyou have been demoralized. it's perfectly natural and positive to want to reproduce and care for ones young.
>>84465820>Yeah you can't live a respectable life without loans and still their wages were very low.What?
>>84465830Those societies don't require loans, ours does. I didn't make the rules. Saving up to buy a house in cash is vastly more costly than getting a home loan.>>84465865What words do you not understand?
>>84465911The part where you confuse contemporary circumstance with the past.Purchasing power was much higher when there was a functional economy.
>>84465911>Saving up to buy a house in cash is vastly more costly than getting a home loan.How so? You have to pay interest andif you lag behind just a bit, all your stuff gets repossessed and you end up just as if you never accomplished anything.This is the reason why bosses can basically demand you licking their toilets clean after taco tuesday. It's called debt-slavery. Millions of americans and all of greece fell victim to it and uncountable more.So, don't take out a loan. Live as cheaply as possible and build up whatever you aspire to from what you can save up.The only downside is that you cannot have you shit instantly. Impulse control will literally save your life.
>>84465608this just work tons of hours when you have a newborn because your wife will be too sore and tired to cheat on you
>>84465321the amount of delusion it takes to believe something like that is so incredible that I wouldn't even bother trying to argue or tell someone like that otherwise>yeah it's unnatural for animals to want to reproduce
>>84465988So you're saying that the corporate ladder climb is natural female behaviour?
>>84465952In the 70s a schoolteacher could buy a home without a downpayment? Source?>>84465953You also get raped if you don't pay rent. I don't think you've ever lived away from mommy's house. Especially if you bought a home 50+ years ago, that would be an ungodly amazing investment and each repayment builds equity. Rent just goes in the trash.
>>84465184this is because women are easily manipulated. All it took was ads and tv shows saying that being a wageslave is "empowering"
>>84466045this they literally consider shopping a hobby that's how big of suckers they are
>getting a foid pregnant >watch as months go by and her body swells and gets bigger, wider, sexier>her breasts stsrt leaking milk, her hips widen, her libido is going haywire. One minute she hates you the next minute shes hungry and the next next minute shes horny and wants to fuckPregnancy is so hot, bros.
>>84466045What's your evidence it's just propaganda and not what they genuinely prefer?
>>84465019>parasitetits or gtfo whore
>>84466070Women are hedonists.Advertisers exploit this.Their biology optimised them to chase chads and raise kids while engaging in ruthless psychoological warfare with other women.
>>84466020>Especially if you bought a home 50+ years agoIf you can tell me where I can take out a loan I can send back in time, I'll be all ears. If not, We can only evaluate the current situation. Also, back then, working a good summer job could you get halfway into owning a home.>that would be an ungodly amazing investment and each repayment builds equity. Rent just goes in the trash.It only builds equity if the home and hte location are worth anything by itself. A shack in bumfuck nowhere will buy you a happy meal and nothing bigger than that if worst things come to worst.Yo do agree though that paying rent ultimately will do nothing for you. So it's best to save up early so you don't have to do it as long.
>>84466004no I'm saying the opposite, that anyone who thinks that having children = unnatural or "parasitical" is beyond any reasoning
>>84465988Nowhere did anybody argue it was unatural.
>>84466217>>84465019>brainwashesthe entire point of a brain is to do its biological job, not to be some 150 iq girlboss that exists to gain resources
>>84466225A biological process can both be completely natural and also fundamentally change somebody agency.
>>84464994So what you're saying is you've gone back to using only condoms and keeping them in a safe where they can't be damaged or lost?Or are you already on the way towards 18 years of child care?
>>84466108I'm talking about women working jobs before 1974, i.e. before they could have bank accounts. I'm not talking about today. Obviously women are doing fine now which is why they choose to not be with men. Paying your monthly repayments literally builds equity no matter what. In very, very few places did homes depreciate in value significantly.
>>84465911>Saving up to buy a house in cash is vastly more costly than getting a home loan.It actually quite literally isnt because saving up doesnt have interest. Instead of giving your money to a bank you save exactly same amount every month than you would have paid in lease and then after 10 years you buy a house without any interest on its price. Houses didnt use to be so ridiculously expensive either and it was possible to just save up for them. Spinsters lived in small flats anyways and usually teamed up with other spinsters. Living in a flat is not non-respectable in itself or something stupid like that. Sure women couldnt consoom mindlessly back then, but basically no one could do that anyways.
>>84466020>You also get raped if you don't pay rent. I don't think you've ever lived away from mommy's house.Most of humanity used to live with their mommy until they saved up for a house for like few late millenias. The fuck you are trying to pose it as some sort of marginalized choice.
>>84466293>In very, very few places did homes depreciate in value significantly.No you are factually wrong, eventually all houses depreciate in value because they get old, not up to date with modern standards and get worn out. Any house eventually turns into a shack and just becomes a financial burden as it becomes so nonfunctional that you literally cannot get even a building permit for renovations and have to pay double for the demolition and then building an entirely new house from scratch.Fucking delulisons. When will you all realise that investment money literally do not exist. It is just a wager. Houses are place to live in, not to sell.
>>84466555Homes are earning more money in valuations sometimes than your average salary, but also you do have to live somewhere. Unless your parents are fine with you being there and pay for everything, this absolutely isn't true.>>84466570Yeah poor shitholes do that. That's not what Americans do.>>84466597I'm obviously talking about in the timescale of you buying it 50 years ago.
>>84466597The land itself is almost as value as the land + the house. The land itself can depreciate over decades, but that hasn't been the case in the US over the past 100 years, outside manufacturing/mining towns that failed to diversify before their industry collapsed.
>>84466700>Yeah poor shitholes do that. That's not what Americans do.America 70 ago was poorer than modern shitholes. You did all that crap too. Also yes houses turn into crap in 50 years. Especially modern and american style building houses. >Homes are earning more money in valuations Whatever I do not care, what does this has to do with spinsters ability to live a decent life? You dont need to be rich investor to live a decent life, not even even today. You do not need loans or credits. Fuck off dumb jew, you all were outlawed with your money abstractions in all based places for a reason.
>>84466713>outside manufacturing/mining towns that failed to diversify before their industry collapsed.Literally half of americas towns. Majority of america per territory looks worse than siberian shitholes in terms of abandonment. And most of those towns that still live also rely heavily on some extremely niche shit for their economies to hang by a thread
>>84466765>houses turn into crap in 50 yearsAre you actually trying to say boomers are poor because they bought homes for 20k that are now worth 900k? Obviously most people upgraded homes during the 50 year time period.
>>84466782>Literally half of americas townsSource?
>>84466765nta but you're admitting it's much worse as a woman because they don't have a loan. you could still live a life, but being with a man was a massive bonus to wealth accumulation.
>>84464994Women's minds are ruled by peer pressure.Everything they do makes sense after you apply this.
>>84465019>maternal instincts is like a scary parasite that brainwashes youIt's like having a full bladder and thinking "I need to piss," and then going to take a piss It's your purpose in life and what you were designed and created for. You can hide away from it in abstractions and cerebral contrivances but when you inevitably stumble across a touchstone of reality and hear an infant shrieking or have to help a child out, there it is again reminding you. You can also cope and try to psyop yourself, maybe even successfully, into hating children and replacing them with domesticated animals and social causes, but at the root of it, you will always feel strongly about something that needs you, which you have evolved to feel good by fulfilling its needs. However, unlike with actual children, the replacements and surrogates cannot actually reciprocate your love for them, and you will end up totally neurotic and in a cycle of mental breakdowns, for which you will cleave to 'therapy' to assuage. This will bewilder the chuds on the outside, they don't understand the point of 'therapy' that doesn't effectively 'therapize' you and will see it as a waste of money. But I know why you need it so much. What's actually rare is someone who is completely unbothered by it and has no strong feelings on children at all, even among children or while discussing them. I think this type of personality is important for our society as they become interested in things like trains, computers, philosophy, etc almost as if they were married to them, and come to see their apprentices as children. In this limited case, the surrogate child does actually reciprocate your love for them because they're people. So I think this path should be encouraged if you actually cannot have children.
>>84465184that's your cope because you're fucking a tranny, faggot
>>84465494>do not feel this shit at allYou are either a man, too young, or haven't gotten a good enough dicking yet.
>>84465019I am nearing 30 and I had a baby fever really strong and now I am glad I am a femcel so I would end up being miserable with a crotch spawn having to raise it for at least 18 years
>>84465540>How is it natural when women were strictly forbiden from doing otherwiseWomen were not strictly forbidden from being industrious with their labor. This is a contrivance of feminist ideology. Female labor was organized by women since the dawn of time and industrious and honest-working women are universally prized by every culture. Wives have been the defacto accountants and managers of their husbands for millennia. For example, weaving is very labor intensive. This scene is a depiction of the Neolithic, in Macedonia.>and immediately sprint from it when given the freedom to?I would say two things about it. For one thing, women are not clambering to fill male working roles. They gravitate towards things like marketing, human resources, hiring, psychology, graphic design, etc. Colloquially, "A/C jobs"Two, feminist intersectionality politics is the prevailing ideology of our corporations and academic institutions. If young women are told they ought to be a certain way by the authorities in their lives, and if females are more agreeable in disposition than males, you can expect that women turn out as our ideological apparatuses tell them to turn out. So the 'gen Z boss and a mini' video makes perfect sense, even though this would make a woman of the nineteenth century recoil in horror, you can understand why it happens.
>>84467338>You can also cope and try to psyop yourself, maybe even successfully, into hating children and replacing them with domesticated animals and social causes, but at the root of it, you will always feel strongly about something that needs youYou can see evidence of this ITT>>84467386>I would be miserable >crotch spawn >having to raise it for 18 years >I am glad >>84465494>I do not feel this shit >babies gross me out>trash and vomit>I found baby dolls gross at the age of 4>it's wild that women find babies cute>babies look monstrous Like little incantations or prayers. If they repeat them endlessly to themselves, they will start to resemble what they're trying to be. Someone actually unbothered by this would never think such thoughts. He would probably just think, "cute" if he saw a child, or simply nothing at all, and then go back to working on his math equations or whatever. It's like the old accusation of projection towards people obsessed with gays. They can't get it out of their head (because they're tempted towards licentious perversion themselves), so they try to put a negative judo flip on it.
>>84464994Her smug face as she finally found a domain (unlike physical work and hunting) where she completely mogs the male gender and is an absolute master. Her breasts and curved thighs are no longer extra burdens impeding function, but the very power of giving and nurturing the future of the tribe. This sensation of absolute domination and power over the fragilest of beings, and the moral superiority given by caring for such creatures is such a high that it imprints on the foid, the desire for her own castle, the domain in which she reigns supreme. Matriarchy etymologically doesn't mean feminism, but 'rule of the mothers' as it is in the birth and control of the next generation that the foid has the maximum power and controls the destiny and future of the world. Matriarchy is the simple idea that those who control life, must be the ones who bring it to the world...
>>84464994I just became a godfather, and now I have baby cravings. God I hate my chudcel life.
>>84465019>sensible women and turns them into emotion-drivenBruh
>>84465019The only parasite in this paradigm is the jew programmed into your brain telling you there's anything wrong with it
>>84465742Not true, they could get bank accounts before that, the 1970s thing was about loans. There were a number of cases of banks denying single women loans (among other groups, like black people) so in 1974 congress passed a bill that made it so it was illegal for banks to discriminate based on race or gender. Ironically, they didn't want to give them loans or credit because they were worried they'd get pregnant and be unable to work (and thus make payments), so they were trying to get them to have a man co-sign as a guarantee.
>>84464994BABIES ARE SO CUTE AAAAAAAAAHHHHH
Sex for the explicit purpose of having a baby is the best sex you will ever have in your life
>>84465494You were molested as a child, huh?
>>84465019There's something deeply wrong with this mentality that I can't articulate exactly. Being this anti-life is just not mentally healthy.
>>84469296The result of our increasingly Jewish dystopia
>>84465742Common feminist lie. Women could and did have bank accounts prior to 1974, long before that even. Feminists liars found one obscure local independent union with that as a bylaw. The bylaws were changed within a month of a woman trying to open an account there during the next meeting. They were delighted by the discovery and preached it as gospel truth that before 1974 all banks in every jurisdiction across the entire galaxy it was illegal according to federal, state, county, and city law quadruple redundant for women to open an account. Everyone knows how businesses work. You think a bank is going to say >umm no sweaty we don't want you to pay us service fees so we can then fractional reserve lend your money out to other people for profit>I suggest you go to the competing establishment across the streetIt's as fake and gay as the made up women earn 10 cents for every dollar a man earns for the same work. If this were actually true then womens lib never would have happened in the first place and only women would ever be hired.
>>84469313Only half truth. The other part you forgot to mention was they had to have a man close to her like her father or husband sign off for her to have her own bank account. The other anon is moronic as well.The law was the Equal Credit Opportunity Act of 1974.
>>84469556>women needed a male guarantor because they feared single women would get pregnant and not be able to meet payments >>84469271
>>84465019Why do you hate nature so much? It's like being mad at liking warmth of sun on your skin on chilly day. Or liking taste of strawberries. Survival is basic drive all living being have, and reproduction is part of it. We have no control over nature and thus if you were born woman or man, you will always be woman or man and have inherit roles in reproduction and work needed for survival. I have no idea why people are perfectly willing to succumb to natural affinity for sweet food and face consequences of being fat that leads to basically nothing positive, while at the same time shitting on succumbing to natural parental affinity that also has consequences and risks, but at least produces something potentially good. Yeah, being single mother is shit, which is why mating choices matter. If you're unwilling to make sacrifices on this field then you're just failure of evolution destined to go extinct and your preferences, ideals etc will only fade away with generations. For example if people truly care about clean world, they should have children and pass their ideals to them, because if they don't, world will get simply overrun by pajeets and niggers who are perfectly fine living in dump full of shit and corpses floating on rivers. So even if your maternal drive is weaker and you foolishly think you're destined for greater things in life, like "saving the planet", it's logical choice to have children.>>84465669Unless you pick some scum who leaves you, man is tasked to work while you can't to afford your child. It's one-sided only if you make shitty mating choices.I too don't like infants, they look weird and I wouldn't have a clue what to do with them, but once they grew up a bit it's actually fun to play with children and teach them stuff. Infant phase is just shitty phase you have to get through to get to something nice. Just like you sometimes have to take bitter medicine or endure pain to get healthy or get your teeth fixed.
>>84467487>It's like the old accusation of projection towards people obsessed with gays. They can't get it out of their head (because they're tempted towards licentious perversion themselves), so they try to put a negative judo flip on it.Some things you are just disgusted by and don't want yourself or ur family near them for logical and instinctual reasons.
>>84469714>It's one-sided only if you make shitty mating choices.I am slavic subhuman and i have never in my life seen a men of the family be actually helpful and not just another kid(but alcohol addicted) in my life. How the fuck do white people not realize like 80% of men in the world are niggers, indians and other subhumans just by pure numbers. majority of women have to deal with this subhuman majority not clean and well adjusted businessmen.
>>84469790>women have to deal withSubhuman mothers raise subhuman kids and pick subhuman husbands. Women are no better.
>>84467487>Like little incantations or prayers. If they repeat them endlessly to themselves, they will start to resemble what they're trying to be. Someone actually unbothered by this would never think such thoughts. He would probably just think, "cute" if he saw a child, or simply nothing at all, and then go back to working on his math equations or whatever.This doesnt even make any sense. Why would I think that a baby is cute when i am just on a very basic primal level grossed out? I have always been like that. childhood puberty adulthood nothing ever changed, as i said I was ewww ing at babies as soon as I could perceive the world. If you see someone shitting on the streets you dont think cute and you dont even think nothing at all, you absolutely do think "jeesus christ this is gross i wish someone detained this person out of existence". I have literally same knee jerk reaction to babies. I unironically would rather smash their skulls than kiss if i had to ever touch this creature.
>>84469790I'm also slavic and I've seen plenty. But maybe our definitions of being helpful differ. How about you tell me what do you consider helpful in this context?
>>84469810Subhuman mothers would not exist if men had standards. They are the ones inserting semen into wombs. If a man doesnt cum a mother cannot be made. For some reason it is always subhuman males that think they are entitled to procreation no matter what. I know that I am subhuman I should have went extinct long ago, finally thanks to feminism I can actually realize this fate.
>>84469815>when i am just on a very basic primal level grossed out?Because you're not and this is cope. >smash their skullsLiterally the exact thing I was describing >at the root of it, you will always feel strongly about it
>>84469978>you will always feel strongly about itYeah I feel strong feeling of being grossed out.The copium is you here trying to pretend its some some of side product. Not it is inherent part of me that has been there my whole life. Hating babies for me is as naturalistic as hating shit and piss. The fact that you have to attempt here trying to convince me otherwise is direct proof of you being wrong. You dont need to convince people about the ways they naturally feel. Not to mention my reaction is physical anyways. Normies think babies smell nice, they smell like trash to me. Not metaphorical trash, like actual just recycling bin. As regarding as to why I engage in this, I already explained. People cooing over babies are like street shitters for me. I see it as inhuman. A normal human got to be grossed out by shit. And by babies
>>84469816I am listening to a local streamer right now, and he is typical moid and even he admits that being a single mother is better because then you are guaranteed 50% of his money in child support, while living with a man means he can just hide his earning and be a penny pincher so you receive less and that men are useless at home anyway and he doesnt know a single man that isnt useless as husband.
>>84470031>then you are guaranteed 50% of his money in child supportIgnore that many just flat out refuse so the mother doesn't receive any. That is so damn common here despite the fact the men make a shit ton of money and are not poor even would be living a rich life with his income halved. Then they cry when they end up in jail about it when the courts have ruled on it.
>>84464994Babies and pregnancy are too much work, instincts fucked me over big time and caused me to have a child before I was ready, fucked everyone over, he passed away 3 years ago
>>84470031If you want to remain alone until death or someone else with equal baggage from previous relationship willing to commit then yeah, being single mother is better. But if it's all about money then just becoming corporate slave is better than being single mother.Seeing how much women care about how they are seen and valued in society, being single mother doesn't seem like good idea. So you can throw his opinion into trash as it comes from position of not even considering point of view of other side.>>84470057Tell me more.
>>84470031This is true men are really sneaky and good about doing as little housework and emotional labor as possible. They will study a woman for years and test her repeatedly to see how much he can get away with. They performatively do each chore like it's the biggest task they've ever done when women just fucking do it. They are like kids. Most men won't even scrub a toilet and let pubes crust on every corner and prefer their pillows yellowed and stinking
>>84469789So gays trigger the same response as a cockroach?
>>84469823Monogamy is superior at selecting against shit women.under polygamy women get worse
>>84470045Well that is illegal so if a woman really wants she can sue him out of it all>>84470063a single mother isnt alone until death. she quite literally has her child. i am not particularly interested in being any type of mother but this point is invalid.>>84470066craziest part is that in homes where a woman is primary provider, men STILL do less homework. its actually insane how hell bent on being useless they are
>>84465540>yuz because i am an individual and such!!! i have my rights and abortion is fun!this is how you sound, you stupid nigger>>84465742>muh woman's rights!!!kill yourself
>>84470073Gays babies indians, et cetera. They are all like cockroaches. I dont even feel smug about it I actually feel bad for gays but they still disgust me and I cant do anything about it
>>84470092My boyfriend downloaded this game, I broke up with him because he's a pedophile
>>84470014Literal coping and seething if not ragebait lol
>>84470104>wanting a cute daughter means you are a pedophilenot everything is about sex with men, I like cute things too, I don't want to have sex with my parrot
>>84470119I found child porn on his laptop anon
>>84470112You pretending its a ragebait is one strong cope mate> noooooo people cant dislike what i like this cant be reaal everyone is just like me running in the field of butterflies kissing babies literally u
I want to have family with femanon because I've been on 4chan for so long I'm completely soaked in its culture and only femanon who gets imageboard culture would resonate with me. Normies are literal aliens to me and I can't understand how they can get pleasure from chatting about what they chat about during breaks at work.
>>84470092Uncanny fucing valley
>>84470120How much cp and how young?
>>84470198It is really nice dating another 4chan user because he knows every reference and aren't afraid of wrongthink like twitter and reddit users are. It is also sweet when a happening has happened he wants to watch the threads with me, I hope you find her
>>84464994The art is familiar but I can't pin it down, is it the pseudo harem author?
I wish men would experience baby fever like we do.
>>84470207That's exactly what I meant. Sadly the train is long gone because I'm in my 30s and most girls disappear into normie life in their 20s, and I'm not sure how many of them would like like 10 years age gap. And I live in eastern Europe so it's hard to find someone nearby.
>>84470235They do if theyre religious. My younger brother is hoping to get married and have kids. He is Catholic so he will likely have many, barring he and his fiance having fertility problems.
>>84465150It's not. Changing a kids diaper is less traumatizing than the last time I shit my pants.
>>84465742nobody had bank accounts nigger. for 99% of human history your entire net worth was 3 cows, 5 chickens and the few shillings you earned from your wife making candles from lard or whatever. Why do 21st century urbanites refuse to acknowledge that 100 years ago sheep farmers were NOT in fact going to the bank every week and taking up variable rate mortgages? modern life is the ULTIMATE EXCEPTION in almost all aspects, not the rule.Also this >>84465830as a Slav, when talking to friends and family we are completely appalled how anglos and americans specifically seem to live their lives in constant debt and constantly loan shit. Taking out a loan is seen as somewhat shameful and extremely risky. I have never heard of someone irl taking out a loan for fun expenses or holidays or whatever. Yet i watch american financial audits and stuff and people go into debt to go to disneyland
>>84470235Men experience baby fever when their wife is pregnant. Both times my wife was pregnant I couldn't think about anything else. And I wanted another one directly after.
>>84470372Progress is progress. Rural living is for the uneducated who are tasked to provide their betters with food and resources.
>>84470351I didn't say you all didn't. It's a literal impulse. Like how you go for water or anything to drink when you are thirsty, or food when you are hungry.>>84470379Same reply. You all want a child and are excited. For us, it's a literal drive to do so. A literal need to be pregnant. A literal emptiness when we're going through it and don't have a child of our own. It drives me flat out crazy when I get it that I even break down at times when I finally get the chance to be alone.
>>84470435Yeah. I used to aspire to having kids, but then I learned something about myself. I am a bad person. So thats how it is
>>84470435I don't feel this need or emptiness, I'm almost 30, speak for yourself sow
>>84470410You might be retarded, but I wish you'd actually consider a different perspective.
Damn this thread convinced me femcels are truly more miserable and retarded than incels.Imagine denying your biological imperative. Fucking retarded subhuman foids.
>>84464994I love it.My wife and I have two very cute kids, both blonde and blue eyed, we are the source of baby fever for many women.I wonder how many we have inspired to get pregnant.
>>84470435How close have you come and what's stopping you?
>>84464994No, I do not want a little leech taking away my time, health, and money.
>>84470640You do though. Hold a baby and you will. Your brain will force you to want them. You are not above your biology.
>>84470410what a retarded cattle circular mindset. so progress is defined by furthering the interests of bankers. if you arent serving the banking system you arent progressing. you are perfect urbanite cattle.reminds me of that old joke about two economists walking through the woods. the first one sees a pile of shit and tells the other he will pay him 1000 dollars to eat it. he does. half a mile later the second economist sees another pile of shit and offers the first economist 1000 dollars if he eats it. he does.then later the second economist says "i think we are both worse off now than two miles ago, we both ate shit and none of us gained anything from it"the second economist says "nonsense, we created two jobs and increased the GDP by 2000 dollars!"
>>84470657I hate children and cannot stand being around them.
>>84470601I don't feel any imperative so Im not denying myself anything.
>>84464994>>84465019>>84465029>>84465030My theory is seeing a friend or relative having kids subconsciously tells you "see, childbirth is safe. This person put in the effort and was fine."Most people WANT to have kids, it's just that we got beaten down and demotivated to consider it seriously.
>>84470474I don't think you are a bad person for wanting to do something with yourself.>>84470510I envy you.>>84470633I'm married. We just haven't conceived yet despite being married for two years.
>>84470666Nope. You DO want babies. You are lying to yourself.>>84470673Yes you do. You cant deny biology. You want babies now. Get pregnant.
>>84470699>I'm married. We just haven't conceived yet despite being married for two years.I can see your frustration.Good Luck.
>>84470066>>84470091women literally get an ick when men do housework
>>84470726I get it though. Guys will do the equivalent of what a stay at home moms did for decades and expect to be worshipped lol
>>84470702It's sounds like you are the one wanting babies. I do not need nor want to do anything. If my biology wanted anything it would tell me. Like it's telling me to go buy chocolate. I'm gonna deny this desire because it is bad for me. But with babies, no conflict, no willpower necessary. My body just doesn't desire it. Easy life
>>84470716It really is frustrating at times, so much so I'm laughing at it. We're financially secure right now as he makes double what I make, and I put all of my paycheck into the house payment. In another year, it'll be paid off. We have no other loans after that except for the bill on his vehicle.
>>84470735stay at home moms are worshipped though? hello? "being a mother is the hardest job in the world" rings a bell?
>>84470785See this is how I know you need to touch grassNo one except your mom says that lmaooo
>>84470742Your body does want babies.Just hold a baby for even a second.You will see im right.
>>84470764Ganbatte, soon your eggs will bathe in his little swimmers and your first stage of suffering will be over.
>>84470735Men can physically tolerate an environment that is simply too hostile and filthy for women to survive in.Tougher skin, stronger bodies, fewer orifices to get filth into.Our standards are different.
>>84470702I would be getting arrested the first time my child would really test my temper. I do not want a little shit leech.
>>84470890No. You will love her and cherish her. You want babies and you will raise that baby and enjoy every second of it.
>>84470849That's assuming a lot of things, anon. My sister had two miscarriages a few months in before she had her first child. My mom was the same before she had my brother, then sister, than me.
>>84470923I'd rather put a gun in my mouth.
>>84470819I have touched babies, it does absolutely nothing to me. I'd rather not touch them ever again.
>>84470924I don't get how they can move on. If I had my wanted baby die inside me or get a birth injury I think I'd kill myself from grief. Or having it die inside and having to carry your dead baby and birth it. My aunt had to do that and now she's a drug addict. How do they even cope
>>84470924You misunderstand my words, only the first stage of suffering will be over.
Why are men so obsessed with forcing women to be mothers? No they don't become better after pregnancy. They suffocate their children in sleep, or if the poor soul survives they make its life hell with abuse and constant "you ruined my life" remarks. Why do men want to create more tragedies in this world so badly? Wtf is wrong with them? Fucking monsters. Kill yourselves
>>84470975>forcing women to Can't provide safety or stability so force is all most men have
>>84470975If you don't want to be a mother then don't what people are rebeling against is the cultural push to deny women being mothers instead of corporate slaves
i only started thinking i want a child when i became a shotaconin my case, it would be better not to act on it
>>84470999shotacon urges are kinda interesting to unpickmore of that urge for childcare
>>84470995Most women who are mother are ALSO corporate slaves because men are fucking broke and useless and children have to get fed. Majority of women without desire to be mothers just become neets because working is pointless without kids. You are fighting a nonexistent enemy, there is no mother VS corporation debate, those always go hand in hand. A woman who doesn't want to be corporate slave will also have to abstain from motherhood. Stop living in a fantasyland.
>>84471012i think my brain is making a desperate attempt to steer me away from my abnormal urges and channeling them into a false caregiver desire. it's not really genuine since i'd never felt this way before this
>>84470956My mom drank a lot until she conceived again. It got a lot worse after the second miscarriage to where they was going to ask her to go to rehab. She stopped every time when she found out she was pregnant. She didn't drink after she had my brother. My sister was on anti-depressants for awhile and somedays had to take a benzodiazepine for the worst days as she would get panic attacks. Those panic attacks were really bad.It's going to be hard for me as I have adhd really bad so I'll have to go off my med for it while I'm pregnant and when I'm breastfeeding. It's going to kill me a lot more though to know they'll likely have adhd as well as there's a major genetic link. My brother obviously has it and so does my dad, but they're not diagnosed and refuse to do so. He was against it when I was diagnosed, but finally relented when a psychologist talked to him and my mom about it. They missed my brother because of the whole "boys will be boys" bs. It skipped over my sister.>>84470967You suffer throughout pregnancy. I already know this as I have several nieces and a nephew. >>84470975For me, it's not being forced. I actually want to have a child, and mine is okay with if I decide to be a stay at home mom or still work. I really do want to be a stay at home mother like my mom was. Do you think you are projecting a bit? Are you at least on birth control?
>>84471034Nah the problem is more fundamental and derives from the debt based currency scam
>>84471055I don't fucking care if you aren't being forced you tard, but half of this thread is men trying to force motherhood upon women who are clearly not cut for it. I am not projecting anything this is happening in real time. Shut the fuck up. Imagine staying that that there is still hunger in world due to capitalists monsters and some clueless tard just comes in saying "I am not hungry are you projecting?". Fuck off.
>>84471078>but half of this thread is men tryingit's one faggot
>>84471055What will you do if your baby gets a birth injury and becomes retarded then dies in her sleep at 9 years old after you made memories or is born a furry
>>84471078It isn't half this thread. You are just that angry. Why are you in this thread if it bothers you?>>84471112I don't know. We'll deal with it as it comes. Life is uncertain, anon. Who even knows if I will even be able to conceive? I mean, we started taking it seriously six months after we married.
>>84471112what will you do if a big green alien eats half of your head while you are taking a shower what will you do? what
>>84470201pedo game
>>84470942Damn you touch babies? Are you a government official by any chance?
