>be tall, decent looking anon>don't think I'm terribly ugly since I somehow managed to make out with a few women here and there but it happens EXTREMELY rarely (as in, once every few years)>aside from those few lucky times I have pretty much no experience with women, still a virgin, have never had a gf Everyone always ask me "well how many girls have you asked out?" and the answer to that is a big fat zero. I've never approached a woman, never asked a woman on a date, never asked a woman for her phone number or insta, I've never tried to "rizz up" a girl in the club. I also have no social media presence and don't use dating apps either. Basically, I've never interacted with a woman with romantic/sexual intent; I kinda just do my own thing which involves reading books, playing vidya, lifting etc. I guess I just have a hard time understanding the fact that as a man, relationships and sex are things that you have to make happen by initiating, whereas women just simply have to not be complete hermits and will eventually get approached by someone? Are we really so steadfast in gender role expectations that men HAVE to make the first move if they want to not die alone?
Yeah, basically being shy, reserved, introverted are ALL femenine traits in the western world. Biologically everyone expect men to be bold. Among zoomers there is this idiotic mindset of "they wanted equality, heres the equality" without realizing they are sabotaging themselves because women certainly still expect men to come and claim them even if they are blue haired feminists
>>84487727I mean being shy, neurotic, or passive are all definite female traits.
>>84487727I'm like you but probably uglier as I've only gotten to the point of hugs with women. Have had 7 of them show interest since I was 16 (now 32).I'm tall (6'2''), slim and reasonably fit (can do 80 push-ups in one go). My face is kinda average, I think it's ugly but i've never been called ugly. I used to be shy but that evolved into extreme introversion, probably schizoid PD since I prefer solitude. Also started fapping around 14 and still do it daily, which means no motivation to actually try getting a gf because I'm constantly sexually satisfied.I'm fine with how I am and everything's going well for me but sometimes I think how odd I am compared to other people my age. I'm not even sad or mad about it, rather I'm amused by it because I realize I've avoided a lot of crap by being like this. Maybe a factor in why I look so young for my age and don't have any health issues despite being semi-alcoholic for some months in my 20s.Based on my experience, yes, nothing will happen unless you take initiative and approach. I'm very sure I'm never going to do that. I don't have the need, will or courage to do it. I have no idea how I'd even do it or what I'd do if I did end up in a relationship. I know I don't want kids and marriage which further restricts my options. I also refuse to use normie social media as I value my privacy way too much and have hated social media ever since Facebook became big.
>>84487763i mean yeah exactly, so can you blame me? ever since i was a teenager we got beat over the head with the message of "women want to be left alone, never approach or show romantic interest in them"
>>84487727>>84487839> 6'2"> tallLucky fuckers. My problem is the height which 5'8" without shoes.
Only if you are unattractive. Men can get by on being coy just like women if they are attractive enough.
>>84488335I wouldn't say I'm attractive or anything but I'm 6'2 and workout pretty often so I'm in good shape. It really hasn't changed anything since I am too shy to talk to girls
>>84487727>Is being passive and introverted as a man really a death sentence?If your mission in life is to be a slave to pussy and chase it like a dog, yes.If your mission in life is to find peace, be happy, and connect with the divine, then being a passive introvert is an enormous strength that will allow you to effortlessly avoid all of society's tricks, traps, and pitfalls. Don't be the fire that burns itself out. Don't be the stone that gets worn into dust. Be like water. Passivity is not weakness. It's the ultimate strength.
>>84488421You are coping. Reproduction is an ultimate maker of biological success.
>>84487727>to make happen by initiating, whereas women just simply have to not be complete hermits and will eventually get approached by someone?Not all women get approached, even if guys here like to claim juggernaut theory is true. I just met a 26 year old woman (who I am not romantically interested in) confess to me she never been approached by a guy ,even tho she went out clubbing. . The most shocking thing is that she isn't some obese femcel, but a normal nerdy girl with a fat ass, long dark brown hair and feminine face and wide hips. She had her first kiss at 26, sex at 27.
>>84488449You're not fire or stone, you're wind. The fart that elicits laughter and is waved away.
>>84488507>a normal nerdy girl with a fat ass, long dark brown hair and feminine face and wide hips. She had her first kiss at 26, sex at 27.I'm somewhat incredulous at this because dating apps exist and it's beyond easy to get attention on them as a female even if you're clinically obese or an actual grandma over 65 as numerous tinder experiments have shownHow do you know she's not bullshitting you for whatever reason?
>>84487727If youre chad enough some foid will basically force herself into your life
>>84487727It definitely feels like a death sentence, that's for sure. Nobody ever respects the shy introverted guy unless he is some Greek god of appearance who's shyness is taken for being mysterious or hard to get. I hate being an introvert so much. I constantly wish I was more outgoing and could enjoy being around people more. I'll probably stay single forever since I never initiate interactions with new people unless I'm forced to.>>84488421I used to think like this but honestly I've grown to see this train of thought for what it really is. Cope. It feels nice to think you're beyond the normie hivemind and not being a slave to women or whatever else. But society is nature for humans, you cannot exist outside it in a healthy manner. Being alone helps me relax, but it's never made me happy. I really wish I could be a dumb extroverted normie without a care in the world and could consume endless slop content and feel satisfied from it. It would be a simpler happier life than this. This is a form of hell that you're trying to paint as some based awoken state to cope with the pain of missing out on the literal basics of human life 101. If you aren't a part of society you don't exist. Plain and simple. The majority is right whether you want to admit it or not.
>>84488797> normieYou mean not unattractive? That's the only thing matters. If you are a +30 yo wizard, I bet that's because you're ugly, not because you're smart.
>>84487839im feeling you, had the same experience. The way people onteract is just strange and kind of repulsive, but necessary to mingle. I cak converse just fine, but cant naturally dip into the banter and flirtzone. Just wouldnt be me, and i refuse to pretend, so i have very few social contacts and my future romance prospects look very empty >I'm tall (6'2''), slim and reasonably fit (can do 80 push-ups in one go). My face is kinda averagelmao just makea dating profile and use this as bio, you will meet your one
>>84487727Pretty much. I can socialize, but I have no real desire to.
>>84488797>society is nature for humans, you cannot exist outside it in a healthy manner. >if you aren't a part of society you don't exist.>The majority is right whether you want to admit it or notAs a taoist, I am laughing at you. Are you truly you when society demands you to be this way and that way, to repress this part of you and fake that part? To do things and live for reasons that aren't your own? To never once be authentic and true to yourself? You become obsessed with standards, rules, and norms that don't actually mean anything except as a matter of convention and control. And if the majority cuts their balls off does it make it right, or wise, or healthy? If they say the sun doesn't exist when it's sitting right there in sky, does it make it true?
>>84488956>laughingNervously. We call laughing nervously coping.
>>84489021You call anything that you don't agree with coping lmao. You can't even make an argument so you immediately try to discredit. So fucking goofy. You're not worth talking to.
>>84487772so should we troon out then?
Women are for closers anon. You can be like that to some extent but you have to fucking talk to them at some point.
The issue is that society has become hostile to all but the most extroverted people. Introverts used to at least hang out with and date other introverts, but that doesn't happen anymore.
>>84488956>Are you truly you when society demands you to be this way and that way, to repress this part of you and fake that part? To do things and live for reasons that aren't your own? To never once be authentic and true to yourself?I have tried those things, been those things even. Who I am is an autistic loser who even looking exclusively within myself, am nothing but a weird disappointment who can never live up to his own expectations. All you bee urself idiots always parrot the same shit about freedom and happiness. Being myself is what is making me so miserable. Has it ever crossed your hippie mind that maybe just maybe, people can have bad qualities that they cannot be content with, and that maybe there is more to life than feeling some mushy sense of self actualization and fullness or whatever shit. What if I want to experience life with a partner, and that desire actively brings me down no matter how much I distance myself from it? I would indeed be happier if I was some stupid low iq normie who didn't think and just went and talked to people and enjoyed the current thing.>>84489021>>84489056Nice samefagging
