Why are married men such faggots?When I get a wife, I'd make her dance to me in an outfit like that, and some hot cosplay costume to vary from time to time
>>84499608>"no">"ew"Okay now what's the move big man
My husband's never asks anything of me.I wish he did. Men are so pathetic nowadays really. They can't even ask their wives for anything
>>84499608Always thought boomer lingerie and roleplay culture was super unsexy. Like a cargo cult of sexiness based on pinup culture.
>>84499628I ask her to do that before marriage and see how into it she is, if she doesn't view me as her personal commitment Chad then we don't get married
>>84499645>do anything wrong around a woman>she crawls up your ass for 2 hoursno thanks I'm good
>>84499608They're afraid of losing everything, and have no self-respect, so they bend over backwards for ungrateful, spiteful women who seek to use them. As if being pussy-whipped and inoffensive enough is gonna prevent them from being cheated on, divorced, and so on. This behavior extends into the bedroom. It's not like every married man is like this, but I see so many men elevate women like they're some irreplaceable princesses in a Disney film, and they so frequently get burned, if not just live dissatisfying, confrontation-filled lives.
>>84499673>I ask her to do that before marriage and see how into it she is>yes anything for you my personal commitment chad>mendelssohn's wedding march>honey can you do the belly dancer thing again for me>no>ewWe're on the ropes here what's the move big guy
>>84499685This is why I won't get married. Once you put the ring on them the mask falls off and they stop giving a shit.
>>84499688You said you were getting a wife unless you're a stealth NTA
>>84499685Then she can go kick rocks. Also it's your own skill issue to not have a prenup
I don't think this is common. A man's not going engage in locker room talk about his wife at work because he has to project a different image of her to people who are interacting every day. At home I make mine wear vintage lingerie which drives me crazy, keep her hair how I like, she shows me chinkshit clothes on her phone so I can tell her it's ugly or she'd be pretty in it. She might be old now same as me but I'm still as much of a sex fiend as I was 15 years ago. She knows to expect random assgrabs and boobhonks when the situation demands one. When I'm 60 I'll be popping viagra and making sure no cobwebs build up in her love tunnel.The fact your image even exists, do you think it's women buying that or horny husbands waiting for Friday night?
>>84499707No one cares about prenups or mgtow shit from a decade ago I'm just asking what the point of having a wife is if you're just going to tell her to kick rocks when she doesn't belly dance for you lol
>>84499608she'd divorce you instantly and take half your shitif you're really unlucky you get hit with abuse/rape accusations
>>84499707prenups don't do anything, retard.
>>84499748Due benevolence is kind of a big deal. You can argue if belly dances or blowjobs fall under that definition just like you can argue if starbucks or teamu future landfill fad slop falls under due benevolence. When discussing hypothetical future wife there is the expectation that the two individuals like each other and wish to make the other happy. When this is not the case the hypothetical hypothetical future wife is rejected for obvious reasons. If she won't suck her husband's dick does she even love him? With only one life this is not an experiment worth conducting when there may be other hypothetical future wives that do play dress up and jiggle their boobs to delight their husband.
I tie my belt around my wife's neck and make her crawl around while calling her a whore
>>84499688>This is why I won't get married. Once you put the ring on them the mask falls off and they stop giving a shitBeing married with kids is overwhelming in modern Western countries. You get no fucking help from the boomers and it's impossible to survive without her staying at home. And even that is still a huge amount of work without help from family. If you want your wife to stay fit and horny you need to treat her really well. Let her know how much you appreciate her. Massages, kisses, dates if you can get help with the kids. You need to abandon your hobbies for the most part, unless they involve exercise or something you can do with the family. Hiking, playing music. Otherwise you won't have time, and any time you spend in the hobby is fine you are failing to keep the family together. Life is fucking impossible right now and it's no wonder a lot of married couples give up on looking good and just turn to food and television or cheating and drugs. LOVE YOUR WIFE AND HUSBAND HARD. TELL THEM THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL. PRESSURE THEM TO BE HEALTHY, NOT SIMPLY THIN. A HEALTHY WEIGHT COMES FROM HAPPINESS, EXERCISE, AND HEALTHY MEALS THAT YOU COOK
>>84499608Lmao married men in the 21th century are all cucks. Their wifes have them by the balls and they can't do anything against it. And if they have kids with them then ufff it is legit fucking over for you.
>>84499978>if they have kids with them then ufff it is legit fucking over for you.If you don't have kids you failed the entire game
>>84499608The saying is that once married she stops putting out because she can say no without fear of losing you. Putting on a dumb outfit is way easier to say no to.
Most married women are not hot, they immediately get fat
I did. Not a full on cosplay but got a girl who only ever wore granny panties to start wearing high leg thongs and she did. Complained about the wedgie at first but she got used to it.
>>84499748You get what you tolerate. Your wife doesn't suck your cock and you accept it because that isn't enough to break up. Your wife doesn't obey you and you accept it because that isn't enough to break up. Your wife keeps bickering you and you accept it because that isn't enough to break upThe small things are what matter. If they aren't willing to do small things for you, obviously they won't be willing to do the important things too
>>84499608Got my gf to do quasi-yandere babymaking sex on request. Tampering condoms, forcing me to finish inside, lots of talk about how i dont have a choice about it. She isn't versed in weeb and she just thinks I've got a baby trapping fetish.9/10 would recommend.
>>84500960You can get these things by being open and loving instead of demanding, that's where you Chud advise is missing key information.A woman's will give in to you demands and resent you. That isn't real respect. You need to protect her and nurture her like a garden. Make her feel good about herself and happy in her life and she will start to take care of her body and mind. It's a much better way.
>>84499786>>84500960Maybe I'm not phrasing it correctly Clearly your definitions of marriage are just as flippant as whatever a situationship is Why even go through the trouble
>>84499685I tell her all my money is tied up in stock, bitcoin and offshore accounts, which it is, and it is better if we have separate accounts, but in general I am glad to pay for dinners (if we're fucking it's not simping) and a few large expenses to relieve the financial burden on her. If she acts like it's a big deal and I am le bad instead of respecting my principles then that's a red flag.So she only has a motive to screw me literally.
>>84501495My definition of marriage is extremely rigid. It's a Christian religious rite. One man, one woman, making vows to each other before God and in front of the congregation serving as witness. I don't consider it marriage if there's a marriage license because that's putting false gods above God, clearly broadcasting they believe the government of their country is a higher and more important authority than the creator of heaven and earth.Within marriage she is required by religious law to obey her husband. This is why it's important choose carefully when evaluating a woman's suitability to be a pious wife. The Bible warns against being unequally yoked and all sorts of stuff like wicked governments and women having authority being a very bad thing.
>>84501558I just realized my image is a filipino prenup, I have zero intention of marrying a pinoy even if mumbo jumbo did
>>84501454Lol this strategy only works if the woman isn't mentally ill (most are)
>>84501558America does not have rule of law, judges pretty much have free reign to interpret, enforce, or outright hallucinate laws as they see fit with criminal cases. They have even greater leeway and discretionary power in civil cases. Prenuptial agreements are not worth the paper they're printed on because judges will simply baleet it and pretend it never existed. They are incentivized to do it because it triggers lots of taxable events and funnels lots of money into their hands of their courts and lawyer buddies.
>>84501564fucking lol best of luck with that m8, save up for the greencard now
>>84501564What reasons does she have for obeying her husband within this arrangement? What is he providing her?
>>84501601by that definition they are the norm and you would be the mentally ill one for not conforming.
>>84501607well the only money and assets they can get hold of are stocks and real estate, and that will go to my lawyers before it goes to them
>>84499608Because if they don't cuck themselves then the wife leaves, and they are no longer married>I would make my wifeSure bro, good luck.
>>84501619Sure sure, just saying being open and loving does NOT actually work with a lot of women, only the good ones. And women are people too, so most of them aren't really good like that.
>>84499645>men, please ask me for things so I can deny you Lmao. It's not my first day, foid.
>>84499608You won't do shit. Not that you'll ever even have sex, but you'll marry a fat single mother who sits on the couch and eats your snacks while you're at work. You'll still never have sex.
>>84501610I've never heard of a man marrying a foreign woman and it not eventually ending in disaster. Dangling a green card like that is just asking to get divorce raped. Even if it somehow worked out, how are grandparents going to be involved in a meaningful way if they are in a foreign country?>>84501614Is because God said so not a good enough reason for you? That's the ultimate authority. As to what a man provides his wife, basically everything. It's a marriage, not a puppydog you can drop off at a pound when it becomes inconvenient or a half hearted hobby you forget about after six months. It's a union where two essentially become one.
>>84501663shrug. both fair points. being open and loving does not work with most men either. i think around age 22 the accumulation of logicless interactions resulting in getting fucked over tips the scale with most people and they treat genuine kindness or reason with suspicion if not outright hostility. the more damaged consider it a vulnerability to be exploited. you have to break people back into the humanity they only otherwise experience in media if you want them to follow basic logic for positive reinforcement now. humanity is a glutton for punishment, apparently, which should have been obvious given the history of any form of social control. the world runs on resentment rather than rainbows. the question for hypothetical husbands here is if they find the satisfaction from that enough or if they want to try for a true human connection with their wives, but given what we have already established about people and their fickleness, that is a riskier prospect than treating others as variables to be engineered or manipulated.
>>84501698No, because your God supposedly said so is not enough reason for me to follow what you say. You are not God, and even if you were God granted humanity with free will and the ability to defy, reason, and think. Blind obedience means nothing to Him who has all.Rather than a larger theological discussion, I was genuinely trying to determine what reasons a Christian woman would have for giving blind obedience to her husband as you seemed to require rather than to her Lord, the only true authority in the world of man. We agree otherwise in the union of two souls, but diverge in that your requirement for obedience would necessitate subsumation rather than a true merging. The wife in a Christian marriage has duties other than obedience as well, that would be why I asked what yours were to her for her to obey you.
>>84501601>Lol this strategy only works if the woman isn't mentally ill (most are)Aren't we all though? I've tried both methods. The one I forced to behave eventually cheated (proven emotional cheating, at least, suspected physical cheating).My standards for trust went way up and I found a woman who hasn't broken it. She's earned my love and admiration for it. I have never felt more respected. After our second child she gained about 30lbs. I kept letting her know how much I love her and gently encouraged her to start eating better. Giving her lots of free time and affection. Within a couple of months she's back to doing daily yoga and her bubbly self again, eating healthy and rapidly getting her body back. Love this woman.You have to have real intentions, I think. She knows I really would love her no matter how out of shape she gets. But she wants to make me happy and she wants to feel good, so that's enough motivation. No resentment created. Now I feel pressure to start lifting again to keep up with her
>>84501747I maintain that a wife must obey her husband, this is base level mainstream Christianity's position you'll find in all the different branches. I don't know your religion or motivations, but for me because God said so is the best reason for anything. I guess we could use secular reasoning too. It's more efficient to have division of labor and everyone playing to their strengths/weaknesses and teaming up where strengths and weaknesses create synergistic effects. Married people are happier, more effective, healthier, more secure, etc. than single people. If you take God out of the question I'd say why bother getting married in the first place, but it is a cultural norm and societal expectation so maybe that's reason enough to play pretend. Wife could submit to husband or other way around. They could run it like a democracy where there's either agreement or half the members disagree on any given matter. They could even do it purely by chance, coinflip heads I do meth or tails you have sex with the neighbor. There's a lot in scripture about specific duties a husband has to wife so it was faster to just say basically everything. He teaches, protects, feeds, clothes, houses her, he is called to be a leader. It's a huge responsibility. He is to love her as he loves himself because she is to him like the church is to Christ, becoming one flesh. My hands obey my head but that's not really subsumation, it's just the natural way of things.Either way, if she's not a Christian and not willing to follow Christianity we would not be getting married in the first place. She might go out and get an abortion, shoot up a school, cheat, lie, steal, there's no end to what a secular/pagan might do because they don't submit to anything but their own desires. You can't trust someone like that.
>>84501564>It's a Christian religious rite. One man, one woman, making vows to each other before God and in front of the congregation serving as witness.Okay /r9k/poster, but I mean what is the move once she goes >ew >no Roll over and go to sleep? >>84501698>I've never heard of a man marrying a foreign woman and it not eventually ending in disaster.You probably talk to about three to five people a given year
