>>84502147
It's not about being late
It's about being subservient

Best part about working night shift ngl.
>you wanna fire me?
>go ahead, take turns ruining your sleep schedule until you find a replacement in 2 months
#1 form of job security is being highly inconvenient to replace

>>84502147
>arrive at 9:00
>say hello and greet everybody -> 9:15
>go to work post and take morning coffee ritual with coworker -> 9:30
>Check emails and launch computer and apps -> 9:45
There is so much time wasted, being on time is not even worth it.

>>84502147
It depends on the job.
If it has turnover and you're relieving someone it's important, but if it's a bullshit office job you could be an hour late and it doesn't matter.

>work in healthcare
>relief is 10 minutes late everyday
>don't get paid for those 10 minutes
>he still does
>happens every day
>end of week: 50minutes of unpaid work
>add up over months
>bring it up manager instead of supervisor
>goes over all clock-in, clock-out times
>fires both co-worker and supervisor
>get reimbursed
Deserved. Stop being late, assholes.

>>84502147
>zero tolerance for tardiness
kek

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>>84502147
i show up 3 hours late but i also leave work 3 hours late, which is my most productive hours

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>>84502147
My roommate was inflexible like that and she was not a baby boomer. It's a personality/mental illness thing. The world really needs to start seeing OCD punctuality as a mental illness.

And I say this as someone who always met their deadlines. If I can do the workday in five hours, yes it's okay if I show up ten minutes late for an eight hour day.

Bosses should have to support in court why a person needs to be exaaaactly on time every single day for their pointless wagie job. It's just an addiction to being in control of others.

Not to mention the city planner should be liable for traffic jams. "Let's put a billion cars on a road with room for ten". even a toddler knows when to stop pouring milk in a glass.

>>84502147
If you consistently are 10 minutes late then you aren't trying to get there on time. If you are 10 minutes late every other week then I doubt they give a fuck unless they really want to fire you

>>84502147
interestingly the people that tend to think it's ok for themselves to be chronically late are also the types that are very impatient and demanding.

>The world really needs to start seeing OCD punctuality as a mental illness.
Yeah to that

I really do not understand the "you do not respect my time" argument. You do not respect me, by making me stress over pointless crap, why should I respect your time? The fuck so important in this world you are doing, that I should hurt myself for your convenience? Fuck off. Sit down and enjoy the birds singing while I am getting there, you constipated shitass.

>>84502402
Most of them have ADHD. Time blindness is a common trait of it. Of course, they can just...you know...LEAVE EARLIER and not strand a co-worker in unpaid 10 minutes over months like I've said in my post: >>84502233. And this is coming from me, another with ADHD. Tbe difference is I know of I'm not early, I will be late, and I'm not an imconsiderate asshole like that asshole.

>>84502422
>I really do not understand the "you do not respect my time" argument.
Of course, because you're self-centred

>>84502422
Oh so it's okay for you to be chronically late so I get thst unpaid 10 minutes whime yiu get paid for being 10 minutes late over the span of a long time? Not to mention losing 50 minutes of my personal time per week? Get fucked.

>>84502430
Yeah I dont give a shit before you do. Demanding me to adapt to your times is self serving and disrespectful towards. Maybe if you stoppeddemanding me to be selfless when you are selfish I'd stop doing that, but as long as you are eat shit.

>>84502436
No one is forcing you to clock in only after another one does. Or just stay 10 laer too. Your issue regardless, not mine.

>>84502464
>Yeah I dont give a shit before you do.
So just say you're self centred instead of coming up with this "punctuality is mental illness" bullshit. It just makes you a pussy for lying. Lots of other people are capable of respecting others. You're the minority here and you're not the centre of the world.

>>84502479
People who demand respect without being orth anything are the ones being self centered. I am just minding my own business and not doing you any special favors unless you prove it's worthwhile. To sit down and relax is not a difficult action you know. This shit is actually offensive to my religious beliefs, because per them nothing material in this world is worth any effort and I wont be serving demonic entities for YOUR egomaniac ass.

>>84502147
Commute's shit, pay's shit, work condition's shit. Not surprising.

>>84502147
Based. I hate when people are late. BTW, on time to a meeting is 10 minutes early

Baby boomers are all retired or dead now. What retarded article.

>>84502496
>People who demand respect without being orth anything are the ones being self centered.
They literally aren't self-centred because they care about other people, just not you and it's only because you don't care about other people. Why can't you just own your selfishness? You just sound extremely pathetic.

>>84502147
Being late like this is why gen z ages so badly.
Some stress is good for you, especially when it's in the context of doing something beneficial for society, like having a job and paying taxes.

>>84502531
They care about themselves, they literally state it directly that "you disrespect ME". If they cared about other people they wouldn't make a deal out of it and cause other people stress over nothing of value, and just go on with their lives as planned with a small delay. Time literally isnt real and it doesnt matter.

>Why can't you just own your selfishness?
My point is that you ARE SELFISH for asking me to consider you and make sacrifices without neither having a good reason nor offering anything back. All humans are selfish, but when you demand something from others instead of minding your own business you are selfish + impudent on top of it as well. Demanding is more rude than not doing anything, literally.

>>84502517
No. 5 minutes is both the minimum and the maximum.
10 minutes is you being an embarrassing tryhard and everyone is laughing at you behind your back.

>>84502566
>If they cared about other people they wouldn't make a deal out of it
The point is that they would, but you're too stupid to see it because you can't ever consider things from other people's perspectives like the toddler you are. It's pretty funny how you keep coming with excuses that make absolutely no sense to justify yourself, as if you subconsciously know you're in the wrong. What are you gonna do next? Blame the trannies like what r9k tends to do?

>Bet you hate trannies too huh, chud
What an odd thing to say

>>84502464
>No one is forcing you to clock in only after another one does
Retarded brainlet with reading comprehension issues. I literally work in healthcare. I cannot clock OUT until my relief is clocks IN.

I'm glad the fucker and my supervisor got fired over it.

>>84502616
Not odd at all given the context of the board. Are you finally going to admit you're self-centred or are you going to keep lying to yourself and others?

>>84502616
Know what's even more odd, Bart?
I really wish I could shove a bluebird up my ass early in the morning and have it sing to my poops before I shit them into my wife's dog bowl, but every time I try the old lady next door beats me with a container of her husband Carl and the dust sends me into a sneezing fit so severe I shit right in my pants, rendering the whole attempt pointless.
Truly, this is hell.

>>84502631
Im not even that anon, it's just an unnecessary presupposition.

>>84502573
Sure they are late nigger

>>84502639
It's not because I'm making fun of a sizeable chunk of users on this board on top of that anon.

Its not tardiness if its a job. Tardiness if for school. When its a job you're straight up stealing/thieving if you show up late and don't manually request lower pay as a result.

Simple as. Naturally you'd be upset if someone broke into your house and stole your things as well, which is what being late to work as an adult is.

>>84502147
I show up an hour and a half later to my job. Shit still gets done.

>>84502172
This. I worked as a dishwasher for a place with a high turn over rate and as a delivery driver for a company that needed daily shipments. I showed up whenever I felt like and they never dared fire me or they would be SoL.

>>84503354
Where is the comparison of me breaking into their private property? And if you are going by salary, then those same people have to stay longer to get work done they are not necessarily getting paid for versus if it was hourly wages.

>>84503354
Vast majority of Zoomers work hourly so no, it's not stealing. You only get paid for the amount of time you're clocked in.

>>84503354
You seem mad. I once worked for Walmart and straight up did wage theft. I would stay clocked in after hours, then come back to clock out with my phone before they automatically clocked me out. They eventually found out and fired me but I stole thousands from those gay retards. How does that make you feel, faggot?

>>84502147
They get mad if you are 10 minutes late then expect you to stay 3 hours after your shift ends

>>84503520
I did something like that when i worked at a department store at a mall while also working at another store. I would come in and clock in for my one job in the morning, then work my 2nd, then later go work the job i clocked into earlier. I also got caught, but they didn't even fucking fire me. I played retarded and said i assumed the clock in was just a formality to show that i came in and left and would only get paid for the hours i was assigned. They said they would be passing this up the line to corporate to decide the consequences....and nothing fucking happened. I worked there another 5 years until i quit on my own.

>>84502147
If you have a scheduled time to arrive, thats when you should arrive, no later. That said, im roughly 5 minutes late to work almost every day but im in the union so they cant say shit about it lol.

>>84503354
Most punch clocks operate on 15 minute windows. If you punch in 7 min early or late it gets counted as the same. 2:53 is the same as 3:07. If I show up for 2:53 and they count me as clocking in for 3:00 they are stealing my wages, so why not just clock in 7 min late instead?

>>84503561
My job tells me to only record my time in 15min intervals because i guess its easier for accounting. So if i come in at 9:12 and leave at 3:46, im recording it as 9:00 and 4:00.

Its not just boomer bosses, its most people that are positions of authority, often pricks are the ones that get picked for those positions in the first place. That or the power simply goes to their heads

>>84502147
it's about the principle. it might seem pointless and autistic but that's how you get a functioning society.

My Gen Z brothers will change the job economy once these boomer fucks finally kick the bucket.

>>84503520
You seem enraged, pressed, and scared. I can sense your trembling anger.

>>84503921
Most of them are without skills and will be recycled into meat paste and dungeon fuck toys for the wealthy. A few might get jobs as prompt engineers in exchange for less analizing and more bug slop.

>>84502147
Funny how boomers expect you to show up early but not pay for that time but cry when your a minute late

>>84502147
just depends on the company and the culture, wife makes 6 figures and comes in late everyday, so does the boss, no one cares, everyone leaves early.

some of my lowest paying jobs had the strictest rules on tardiness. its all just a fuckin coin toss man

>get job
>no smart phones on the clock!
>leave
>next job
>oh you can have your phone out
>next job
>no phones while youre on the clock!
>leave
>next job
>oh you can have your phone out, its cool
lol. These places are all one big joke.

>>84502436
You mentioned this before, how are you unpaid for arriving 10 minutes before the other guy?
Does the other guy bring the punch-in board with him or something?
Why aren't you clocking in when you get to work?

>>84504289
I think you are confused. We are on different shifts. I work midnights. He was a dayshift worker. I relieve him when I clock in at 7pm and work 12 hrs. He arrived 10 minutes late so he clocked in at 7:10am. I cannot clock out until he clocks in so I clock out at 7:10am.

The issue was I didn't get paid for those extra 10 minutes, while he was paid for those 10 minutes. As a result, that was 50 minutes I did not get paid while he did.

>>84503354
A job is a job. If you're a morning shift person, you show up late 10 minutes but there were no customers either, big deal.
Similarly, if salary and the job still gets done, all is well

used to arrive 2h late and leave 2h late, greatly helped me with the actual nightmare of work, commute

>>84502156
this!
fuck boomers!

>>84502147
>milenial
>on and off wage and neet
>land a comfy job
>boss ok first but in the span of first year 2 male workers change jobs because of her antics
>boss like me because im doing good job
>suddenly she starts to get on my shit
>arguments in front of other workers about 1-2min of being late, how i spend my break or that i need to report as soon as i finish my workload so that she will give me some more because god forbids if I have 5 min of doing nothing.
>she moves my workspace so i sit next to her, monitor my moves despite having a lot to do on her own.
>after a number of laud arguments and some shirtests i just say that i will stay 5 after work each day if being late 1min is so important to her or she can just cut my bonus and we can move on, because i wont be trained to be her pefect cog, she knows how much I bring to the team.
>No, youre good worker, but you must be better, because other people from team pefrom bettwr in this regard and it will be unjust to them if she tolarate it.
>ask other people from my team if me being late 1min makes them feel unjust.
>No.
>tell her this but boss cant bother ass.
I just told myself that Ill quit after 3 more meldowns of her and I handed her my resignation.
I was sure but I decided to talk with her one last time and she still defended her case and I just said fuck it.
I dont understand people like this, now she have problems because the team is left without a key ablilities that no other worker can do. All because of her antics and the fact that she couldnt stop bitching - in the span of 1,5y 4 workers quited from her team (3 males) consisting of 7 people.
Im far from being sexist but the fact is, i had few jobs, few female bosses, but not one of them were good. Female bosses suck in my expirience.

>>84502147
this was my experience when i still had a job only i was expected to show up at 7am and always was a few minutes late because the bus was never on time

>>84505016
>>84502156
do you think the planes and trains can leave late? no big deal right!?

>>84502361
>my most productive hours
just go to bed earlier

>>84505154
yes, they can. i think and know this because they do. it's exceptional when they don't.

>>84505018
what if you ask her to use her body to relax when she makes you overly stressed for no reason. she probably wants you

>>84503921
Millennial here. Arrive on time on you'll have to change jobs. Fucking generation of niggers, the lot of you.

>>84505204
She was a hog and I have a loving wife.
I understand to bring your horniness and fetish as a humor, but people that seek this type of real relationship in work will be always fucked up to me.
The work is the last place I would sexulize in any matter and Im a fucking horndog. You need to not work any day of your life, be a faggot or dont have sex to mix those two irl.
She just was a petty bureaucrat that wanted to micromanage everything and didnt see a life outside her work.
Its not bad if you sacryfice yourself to work, especialy creative, I understand it to some degree, its their matter of choosing work over potential partner, hobbies and other parts of live. What I cant get behind is when this type of person is in mangment position and they force this lifestyle onto others.
Fuck this shit, like I was always far from being typical neet that remarks on wagies, but this type of people are dorectly linked to why massive amount of humans dont like to work.

>be me
>not even show up at all
>still get paid top 10% salary
God I love my dysfunctional corporate

>>84502147
In every job I've ever had there's been a "grace period" where you can be 5-10 mins and late and nobody gives a fuck but if you're 11 minutes late you get spoken to, like hahaha its 60 seconds bro chill

>>84505018
If it's an option I'd just start buttering up another department's boss and slide into there
One of my friends had a similar boss (also a woman) and he did just that

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>>84502147
I show up 45-30 minutes early to work so I have time to have a panic attack about the fact I am at work.

>>84504397
>working on the clock
>no you don't get paid for that
sounds like you should be mad at your jew company stupid wagie

>>84502425
I have severe ADHD but I've gotten in so much trouble being tardy I am now hyper focused on being on time all the time. My reputation is known for always being on time for things. I love it. Life gets so much better when you care about being on time.

If you do that 5 days a week that's almost an hour of stolen time. Zoomers are fucking morons. You should be at your desk or be clocked in at the start of your shift. Not just walking in.

>>84505018
You are insubordinate, lazy, and died on the hill of being late. And you were easily replaced.

>>84502425
Man is r9k just filled with retarded reddit troons, like back to back threads of people like anon

>>84505873
It was gov gig, and the whole department was fucked (in comparison to other departments) I was gonna do it, but id have to stay there for next +6month to wait for the roght opportunity. When my boss started to check on me on computer app (it was administation work and the tool was used to check what and if papers were signed or processed, no to check what we do, we worked as a admins of said and few other systems), i said fuck this shit and just handed her my resignation. Now they are in deep shit because we also were responsible for training materials for thousands of employes and no one but me knew any editorial work, they have to qork with it probbaly and those guys can just inspect hardwere issues and dont do any creative work.
Im hateful toaards any time monitoring softwere after my prwvious coorp job that use time monitoring app. That work lead me into total work burnout for few years and I always mark that I dont tolarate anything like this when I look for the job.
It fucking obnoxious that we leave in the culture where your boss dont look at the outcome of your work but the way you spend your time while worling. I did probably 120-140% of what was considered as a avrage daily work + have additional abilities that were not a part of my contract but I used them as a specialist. I worked faster than others and was penilized by it, because my boss saw that and dont want to hand me bigger workload, but report to her every time i finish a small task so she can hand me some more work.
Everyone needs to look busy in this shit times, because god forrbids you done your work and be happy that youve done your job for 5min.

>>84502147
If you don't have to clock in/out (ence you have a useless white collar job) then yeah no reason to show up on time.

>>84505018
You may know how to do your job, but you don't know how to be a worker.
>Show up 5 min earlier
>Always look busy even when you're doing nothing
>After you complete a task, keep faking work for about another 15 - 20 minutes

It's simple, unironically acting like a drone will land you more jobs than actually being good at what you're doing.
>B-but that's dystopian!
You're there to collect your paycheck, you shouldn't give a fuck about anything else. They will replace you easily.

>>84502376
exactly
and of course they dont get there and immediately start working so in reality its at least 30 mins at the start of the day being wasted

>>84502147
Honestly, she probably didnt provide anything of value. Im late 30 min every day, i chainsmoke, i take stinky dumps in company time, im openly misogynistic to my coworkers, i eat at my desk and when i get bored i doomscroll on 4chan, but my bosses love me because im useful and i do my shit in time.

>>84506363
same except I can't be openly misogynistic to my coworkers because there are no foids working here lol.

>>84506205
Yeah, im not disagreeing, but fuck that. Im an adult person and i wont spend 8h/7 acting or behaving like other catlle/drone.
>>84505960
Yeah and I have backgrond income and savings so I can fuck any job like that and dont need to conform to such standars. I dont care if its the norm, its soulcrashing in the long run and im feed up with people that behave like theyre doing me a favor by giving me a job a treating me like a drone, while I do bonus stuff.
And they wont replece me because those 40 year old fuck know nothing about basic creative softwere, its a job that draw people that just want copy/paste numbers. Good editors could probably get 25-50% more in other gig, so theres no possibility of them doing videos anymore, theyre that stupid. How do I know? A cooworker from that job mssg me like a week ago and they need help woth most basic stuff. She contacted me despite me quiting 6months ago.
I only started this job because I needed some sort of stability to eran bonus cash for trips and to make more savings, if the job isnt stable and dpnt provide me with comfort in the long run, then fuck it, its not worth my energy and time.

>>84502147
I was like 2 hours late one time
but I was supposed to do a 14 hour shift so I said fuck it and came in anyways

>>84502172
>>84503418
>/r9k/ users have shitty dead end jobs because it's the only ones nobody else is too revolting/unqualified to work
Unsurprising

>>84502422
>I really do not understand the "you do not respect my time" argument.
Time is an advanced concept, it's hard for low IQ people to understand but you should trust your betters.

>>84505951
Nothing productive would have happened in that hour anyway so no nothing is being stolen.

>>84503613
>Its not just boomer bosses, its most people that are positions of authority
It's almost like people who get things done understand the importance of time.

>>84505317
>She was a hog
This is what makes it so satisfying to take out your frustration, you can be unrestrained

>>84505154
Planes regularly have several hours of delay.

>>84507616
Imagine how much worse it would be if the pilots could just show up whenever they feel like.

>>84502363
this is funny. when my kids started jobs at 14 i told them their only valuable skill is showing up when they're supposed to. for everythign else they're replaceable. want to finish that level before work instead of getting in on time, be prepared to be unemployed as you're infinitely disposable.