Anyone else noticed the people who were most hard core into COVID stuff, getting vaxxed and boosted, wearing masks alone in their car who would shame you for not social distancing kind of folks. The people who were most into it if you talk about COVID now they try to do anything to change the topic of conversation. Am I going crazy or are you guys noticing this too?
I didn't know anyone who was like that, thank Christ.
>>84510655You obviously feel differently from them, so...Wait a minute...Are you saying...That people...Don't want to debate topics where the other side has invariably debated in bad faith for the entirety of the decade?Holy shit.Holy fucking shit.That's fucking insane.Why don't they just want to rehash the exact same argument forever on an endless loop?
heh, sixty-nine...
>>84510655Because it's done and most people don't hang onto old shit from years ago.
>>84510655You might want to sit down for what I'm about to tell you, OP: Nobody gives a fuck about Covid anymore. Shit's done and dusted.
>>84510655Why isn't anyone talking about the Spanish flu from the 1912 is anyone else noticing this.
>>84510969It's more like 5 years ago the people who didn't care about COVID didn't talk about it, while the people into COVID talked about it every single day, how important it was to get vaccinated, the people in Britain clapping to praise the NHS5 years later you would think the people who didn't care 5 years ago and lived like the lockdowns didn't exist wouldn't want to talk about COVID. But they have no problem talking about it. While the people who lived the COVID epidemic every single day aren't talking about how they incorporated COVID stuff into their everyday life. It's like it is the last thing they want to talk about.If you think I'm exaggerating, I have half a dozen webms saved of Colbert doing specials promoting the Vaxxscene
>>84511148There are people here who post about a convention they went to over a decade ago. The people who were into conventions back then still talk about them. The people who didn't care about conventions back then still don't care about them.
>>84511144>>84511146>>84511148normcattle really think like this. they're as dimwitted as women or niggers.
>>84511183The reversal of roles is a more noteworthy point, though I think the scamdemic/masks don't work crowd were already pretty outspoken by April or May 2020. They were only mild-mannered and non-radicalized the first few months.
>>84510655My dad took the vaxx and a couple boosters because he bought into the propaganda and was scared being in his late 60s at the time. It fucked his health up. He was in good health and used to be able to just do normal physical stuff and yard work but he winds super easily now and even started puking the one time I was helping him do some outdoor work. He stopped getting the boosters after that and is pretty sure the shots caused this.>>84511183The government employees with the TVs on their backs blaring out the propaganda was fucking insane
>>84510655I like to remind them that if they have not gotten a booster that is as bad as not being vaccinated and demand to see their vaccine card.
>JUST 2 MORE WEEKS AND THE VAXXED WILL START DROPPING LIKE FLIES BRO JUST 2 MORE WEEKS!!okay lol
>>84511492vaxxies all died in the rollouts, sister. "omicron wave" was just people dying to the boosters LOL
>>84511514Literally never happened, you are retarded
>>84510655>why dont people still talk about a virus from 6 years ago???gee I dunno why don't people still talk about the Spanish flu and polio?
>>84511492>>84511492Biden said I was going to drop dead in the winter of death
>>84510655People don't want to admit they got vaccinated
>>84511863I remember November 2021 in Russia another round of most brutal COVID lockdowns, kiosks in malls closed, take it Chuds! Kiosks are COVID spawning pools! (Or something). March 2022, ummm, COVID what?
>>84512497And I remember having flu in January 2022, went to clinic, it was like pandemic horror movie or something, general entrance they have thermal temperature probe, if elevated temperature you aren't allowed in, you are sent around to another door and they had isolated infection chambers set up there , doctors in coveralls, respirators and face masks. Got tested and got actual COVID diagnosis. Had one week flu, was locked down at home for month, and got released only after retested and test came clean. It was literally last month of such flu processing in Russia. March 2022? Global pandemic canceled. We have war economy to run Chuds, chop chop. Flu? Here is your prescription and 3 day sick leave, nobody tests for COVID anymore.
>>84510969Half the people in the world get slogged on.corona now. That stuff matters
>>84510655Primarily burnout but you can find holdouts on bluesky and other lib/left sites. I'd compare it to dealing with a stalker who threatened my life a few years back. You're worried about getting stabbed walking home at night but after long enough without anything happening it's hard to keep giving a shit.
>>84510969>Don't want to debate topics where the other side has invariably debated in bad faith for the entirety of the decade?What issue has been discussed in good faith? People always use language to portray their opposition as inconsiderable.
Normal people act rationally and since covid is over, why talk about it? The only ones who still talk about covid and vaccines are the desperate antivax cultist sheeple who think that this time for sure vaccines will kill people in two more weeks and they can finally lose their virginities.
>>84512485Wut? Is this some antivaxxer cope? Anyone with an IQ of above 80 got vaccinated.
>>84512575Do you think 5 years after 9/11 people were still talking about it?Do you think 5 years after the moon landing or the Kennedy assassination people were still talking about it?
>>84512578Why did people need to get vaccines when most of the vaccines had an efficiency below natural immunity?
>>84510655>people desperately want to change the topicNo, they aren't. You're the only one noticing this in your head because you're obsessed with arguing & finding meaning in nothing.
>>84512791You're not a shill. I would just like to know what your experiences are. Do you have any anecdotes about talking to people who you know were vaccinated and cautious to follow COVID Rules about it now? Have you tried asking people who didn't get vaccinated to see how talkative they were compared to the Pro-Vaxxers?
>COVID came to my country>did the best research I could about the vax>take it first myself, shill it to family>everyone turned out okay>bunch of random unvaccinated people of similar ages died (but also a bunch of vaccinated people)I think I did fine, things turned out fortunate, and I have no regrets and I'm not avoiding the topic. It was a complicated time for society and it's very interesting how we reacted to it. I have seen some absolutely retarded behaviour from both sides of the vax argument.It's a shame that the antivax side got taken over by grifters and retards. Every single one of those "brave award-winning doctors telling the truth" like McCullough or Malone are slinging the shittiest pseudomedical snake oil right now, so how the fuck am I supposed to trust niggers like that with my wellbeing?
Remember when everyone was supposed to die from the vaccine
>>84512735That's not true though. Where did you read this from, and more importantly, why did you blindly and obediently believe it?
>>84512944https://www.healthdata.org/news-events/newsroom/news-releases/lancet-most-comprehensive-study-date-provides-evidence-naturalhttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10198735/And yet some vaccines have a below 70% or sometimes below 50% efficacy yet people still go ahead to get pumped
>>84512944And even at the start of the scamdemic people were told natural immunity was at 77% or something, which at the time was still above j&j vaccine yet people still TOOK it
>>84512990That does not say anything at all even close to what you claimed. Why is literally every antivaxxer a sub 80 IQ cultist with zero scientific literacy?
>>84512990>And yet some vaccines have a below 70% or sometimes below 50% efficacyThose aren't even bad numbers, but regardless, it's wholly pointless to bundle different vaccines (some of which work completely differently) together, the Russkie/chinkshit ones didn't do shit, and there are meaningful differences between the MRNA/adenovirus ones.
>>84513017The point is you're putting alluminium and formaldehyde in your body to "help protect" your body from something it would naturally fight off by itself just fine
>>84510655My parents forced me to take the vaccine when I was 15. I didn't really think anything of it at the time, but now I deeply regret letting them do it to me. They also got me circumcised which also greatly bothers me. I love my parents and they do a lot for me, but I can't help but hold a bit of a grudge over being forced into these things against my will and when I didn't know any better. I'm 20 now btw.
>>84513128>protect" your body from something it would naturally fight off by itself just fineliterally millions died
>>84513492>COVID was 5 years agoYou are kidding
>>84513128Look up the death rates of vaccinated vs unvaccinated and then get back to us.
I disowned my little brother over him pressuring me to take the vaccine and accusing me of being a schizo that thought Bill Gates would inject with microbots. That, and for making fun of me for trying to save a dying kitten and attempting to blackmail me to my family over nudes he found when I was a teen. He has no idea why I treat him like garbage and genuinely thinks he's a good person. Average vaxxer.
>>84513492>my parents mutilated me twice with permanent lifelong effects>I love my parentsnigga you have Stockholm syndrome.
>>84512893>bunch of random unvaccinated people of similar ages died"unvaccinated" means they didn't finish the vaccines schedule. most people who died of covid died after the first shot, but before the second shot. here, in this study you can see that they conflate all unvaccinated people with people who haven't completed the full vaccine schedule https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9914916/
>>84513850>most people who died of covid died after the first shot, but before the second shot.Bullshit. Why is literally every antivax argument a blatant lie?
>>84513965the body of evidence is undeniable.
>>84513976Then why aren't you presenting it? The link you posted says nothing of the sort. Antivaxxers have nothing but lies, because facts destroy every single one of their arguments. Like moon landing hoaxers.
>>84513510Dishonest assessment. The global death toll went up slightly then went back down recently>>84513529Why were Sweden fine even though they didn't do a lock down?>>84513014Then how would you interpret it my freethinking fellow?
>>84514089>Dishonest assessment. The global death toll went up slightly then went back down recentlyAnd the death toll among unvaccinated was orders of magnitude larger than in the vaccinated.>Why were Sweden fine even though they didn't do a lock down?Yes they did. You are again spreading disinformation. Sweden ended up doing worse than their neighbors until vaccines became available.
>>84514130Let's just use common sense. If there are people who didn't take the vaccine and their life expectancy is + 70% and there is you who takes the vaccine with the lowest efficacy (40%), we'll see who out lives the other
>>84510655They're already trying to shove propaganda to sell us another pandemic with the hanta virus. Fuck this gay earth
>>84514172Let's just use common sense. No one can deny that unvaccinated died in far larger numbers than vaccinated. The remaining unvaccinated can be expected to have a lower life expectancy since they were hit harder by covid and had their health deteriorate more.
>>84510655the three people who were the most hardcore in my family are all dead (2) or dying (1) from cancer because they took 12 boosters of the mRNA injection.
>>84514193How did they die in bigger numbers when they had lower infection rates?
>>84514193>No one can deny that unvaccinated died in far larger numbers than vaccinatedThis is a lie.>The remaining unvaccinated can be expected to have a lower life expectancy since they were hit harder by covid and had their health deteriorate moreThis is an egregious lie.
>>84514033>because facts destroy every single one of their arguments.it's an undeniable fact that hundreds of thousands of "all causes" excess deaths have occurred every single year in the US alone since the clot shot rollout that can't be explained by covid itself, and every vaxxie does mental gymnastics to blame it on everything but the experimental gene therapy they all took that was manufactured by the objectively most evil corporations to ever exist in human history.
>>84510969By your logic how the hell is politics so front and center in the western world?
>>84514219>it's an undeniable factLol. Post proofs. The only undeniable fact is that the average IQ of an antivaxxer is 80.
>>84514214>>84514216You know you could quickly look up some statistics? Vaccines greatly lessened the effect of covid.
>>84514275It was a pandemic, anon. Not a localized phenomenon in burgeristan.Burgeristan is a fat and ill society. Globally, you're simply wrong.>Vaccines greatly lessened the effect of covidThis is a lie. It doesn't matter how often you repeat it, it's still a lie. It always has been a lie.
>>84514254Well the WHO deliberately made it so that all dis-eases and deaths were recorded as "covid related" so you have flawed data and we have our measly natural imminence. Good luck, and stay away from my human rights
>>84514275Is this within people previously infected? That wouldn't apply to me because I didn't get vaxxed or infected
Nobody wants to backpeddle
>>84514313No matter how many times you repeat your antivax cultist lies, they will not become truth.>>84514334Proofs? A literal who on twitter does not count.
People were not then, and are not now, willing to face the fact that they will do anything if they're frightened and an authoritative figure is speaking sternly to them. They especially cannot begin to hold in their mind, let alone confront the notion that they may have irreperably altered their lifespan by taking part in a ritual genetic poisoning.
>>84510655the pandemic is over old man
>>84514524>People were not then, and are not now, willing to face the fact that they will do anything if they're frightened and an authoritative figure is speaking sternly to them. You are describing antivaxxers to a t.
>>84514637That is not even close to what you claimed. You truly have zero scientific literacy.
>>84514706My mistake, I got mixed up in my own lingo, either way it goes on;>With reference to section 4.2.3 of volume 2 of ICD-10, the purpose of mortality classification (coding) is to produce the most useful cause of death statistics possible. Thus, whether a sequence is listed as 'rejected' or 'accepted' may reflect interests of importance for public health rather than what is acceptable from a purely medical point of view. Therefore, always apply these instructions, whether they can be considered medically correct or not. Individual countries should not correct what isassumed to be an error, since changes at the national level will lead to data that are less comparable to data from other countries, and thus less useful for analysis.
>>84514478Its literally in their code of conducthttps://www.who.int/publications/i/item/WHO-2019-nCoV-mortality-reporting-2020-1>although both categories, U07.1 (COVID-19, virus identified) and U07.2 (COVID-19, virus not identified are suitable for cause of death coding, it is recognized that in many countries detail as tothe laboratory confirmation of COVID-19 will NOT be reported on the death certificate. In theabsence of this detail, it is recommended, for mortality purposes only, to code COVID-19provisionally to U07.1 unless it is stated as "probable" or "suspected".
>>84510655Libtards spend all day crying about governments and hierarchies and then when the government tells them what to do they immediately get mad if people aren't doing it
Everyone who took the vaccine should be brutally punished and then tortured to death. I still haven't forgiven them and never will. I know people in real life that I will refuse to help under any circumstances. Vaxxies are pure fucking evil. I genuinely hate them.
>>84513510Millions diedNow did they die WITH covid, or FROM covid?George Floyd was found to be positive for COVID-19 in his autopsyIs George Floyd a covid death?
>>84513531I hope you patch things upThere's no good in family being divided
>>84514478https://www.newsweek.com/florida-man-killed-crash-listed-covid-19-death-raising-doubts-over-health-data-1518994
>>84512564That's true, of course. I do try to be fair and intellectually honest and concede to valid points, but not many do that.>>84514223People debate ongoing issues. The pandemic isn't an ongoing issue. There's also severe Covid fatigue regardless of your political affiliation; far-right 4chan spergs might love nothing more than to talk about their Covid grievances all day every day but most normal human beings got sick of the topic years ago.
>>84514351I mean you were involuntarily quarantining though cause no one wants to hangout with some retarded mutt like you
The entire OP assertion is fake and gay. The reality is that most people who willingly got vaccinated were not even vocal about it, they just did whatever da gubmint said and kept to themselves. Now the pandemic is over naturally people talk about things that are in the past less. Then there is a minority of people whose identity is arguing about vaccines or space being fake or whatever who have to keep talking about it non-stop cause it makes them feel smartWhat reason do you think the "pro COVID vaccine" side is meant to be arguing? I already knew I wasn't gonna get killed by Bill Gates nanomachines in 1 year and I don't need to go find the 1/100 people who think I was and go "haha you were wrong"
remember the theory was always that the covid scam was intended to push the vaccines and beta test lockdowns which will be necessary when economic collapse accelerates. the vaccines were to wipe out immune systems and set the stage for a secondary virus which would be the actual killshot. the vaccines do indeed cause a plethora of other side effects such as cancer, blood clotting, and various other deadly diseases... but the real mass kill will be from another virus that the vaccinated will be vulnerable toenter hantavirus
>>84516090That's not even a "theory" that's just retarded schizobabble
>>84510969>Why don't they just want to rehash the exact same argument forever on an endless loop?Idk, i do that too. Why do you think I'm here?Also Saten good girl.
>>84510655They're called NPCs. They're the same people that follow whatever they're told by media and the government. The same people who, for example, when I was a kid, told me gays were evil and going to burn in hell, and then when gay marriage passed and corpos started celebrating pride month, suddenly being gay was cool in their eyes and God loves them. They have no brains, no souls, no principles, no critical thought. They wander through life in a daze, brainlessly consuming, like cattle, until they pass away.
>>84516050>The reality is that most people who willingly got vaccinated were not even vocal about it, they just did whatever da gubmint said and kept to themselves.That's not who I am talking about.I am talking about the people who treated Covid 19 like a lifestyle, who were performative with their compliance. Like the people who wore masks while driving alone in their vehicle
>>84516113I don't know if anything is amiss here, anon. It might just be that people's attention is finite. Obviously people will be more invested and interested in a situation when it's fully active and at peak intensity than 3-4 years after it's over. I don't think people were as fixated on WW2 in 1970 as in 1944.
>>84510655They moved on to something else to cudgel others with, which they will also be silent about in the near future
>>84516113Okay, how many people were really like this wherever you're from and why would they continue to put up this act when there is no longer the same disease going around to the same extent?Also I dunno how insane putting on a mask is to you but a lot of countries in Asia they do just wear them all the time they're out and it's not a big deal. I live in the UK where there isn't that kind of culture and I often left my mask on in between getting in and out of cars because the amount of effort to put it back on was more than what I gainedPeople who are afraid of masks will pretend they do literally NOTHING to stop your sneeze droplets spreading around but also act like they lock in all air and you choke on CO2 and die in an hour lol
>>84511340This is satire, right? You have no way at all of linking your dad's declining health with covid shots except "it started happening after"? Look into the third variable problem.
>>84516141There was an argument about this earlier>>84512702
>>84516179Very different situations that have nothing in common besides the time durations involved. 9/11 was an ongoing situation in 2006 because of the war, and it wasn't nearly as divisive a topic. Also as someone that was 19 in 2006, people didn't talk about the war nearly as much in 2006 as in 2001-2002; it was already somewhat backgrounded. JFK assassination was important but too shrouded in mystery to be controversial.The pandemic on the other hand was a culture war bordering on civil cold war with multiple years of retards waging a widespread misinformation campaign. Why should the "other side" want to talk to your side when 2021-2024 was Team Conspiracy Theory being constantly hostile, accusatory, and impossible to reason with? No shit people don't want to discuss it. It's not an admission of guilt, it's because the first 10,000 times went nowhere.
>>84516169I know a few people like that and it seems like an almost religious experience. Like masks and vaccine were something that they faith in, and attacks on the efficacy of masks or vaccines were an attack on their faith. Now they are all apostates.
>>84510655>are you guys noticing this too?No, but I don't come from an uneducated area where people equate vaccines with wizard potions and germ theory with fairies.People self-distanced and washed their hands and our outbreaks were few and far between. No one is "scared" to talk about it.
>>84510969>>84511144Incel rightoids have nothing else going on in their life. Believe it or not there are legions of them out there to this day demanding people debate them about COVID. Absurd levels of pathetic
>>84516434Fairies are cute
>>84515316>I hope you patch things upYou must be a male. I see no reason to. He stopped being my brother the moment he refused to acknowledge me when we went to the same school but still used me for rides. He has a wife he can get hugs and love from her. As his sister I just don't love him anymore.
>>84513531The average antivaxxer is a schizo who thinks Bill Gates will inject them with microbots and the Earth is flat. < This is how you sound.In reality the average vaxxer is just your everyday average joeThe kitten thing sounds cartoonishly evil don't need to lump the rest of humanity in with your dumb brother
I wish there was another lockdown.
>>84516525desu the only effect the lockdown had on my life was that I went from having to go into an office 5 days a week to working from home fully and then going in once a week. I work a few hours and I can spend the rest of my time on games or whatever from the comfort of my deskAntivaxxers will whine about THIS
i bet the same shills itt who peddle pharma bullshit also whine about fertility
>>84516555>anyone who is not a gaymer or willing to become a terminally online shut-in must be an antivaxxer
>>84516555A lot of people were threatened with being expelled from college or highschool for not taking it. Threatened to get fired. Threatened to not be able to see their family. People died alone in hospitals because of the virus hysteria. Funerals were denied for people, people couldn't even mourn the dead. Glad it was so great for you.
>>84516576>anyone who plays games makes it their identity and is terminally onlineI watch movies, read books and cook tooStay upset that the rest of the world moved on>>84516589Thanks, yeah it wasThe people dying alone part is bad but the "threatened with being expelled from college or highschool for not taking it" is only evil if you're already looking at it from the perspective of the vaccine being made to harm you. You can get expelled from college or highschool for not bothering to sit your exams too. Or even under the current admin you could get expelled for complaining about not liking Israel or something? Why isn't anyone complaining about those as much?The position is literally just> We want maximize vaccine coverage to reduce deaths or hospitalizations due to X diseaseExplain how this is supposedly badAlso how much of that did you personally experience because it sounds like a bunch of talking points rather than personal experiencesYou act like that was the reality for everyone in the world and if we didn't get vaccinated it would have run its course "naturally" and we would have all been fine actually. i have a thing called an immune system bro
>>84516589Fuck off, drama queen. He didn't say none of that is bad. He has the right to enjoy his own personal experience.
>>84516651>wahh don't talk about reality if it harshes his mellowWhat are you his gay bedwench shut your fucking trap
>>84516669You're pretty retarded if that's what you got from my post. Have you never enjoyed your own personal life during a time of national, regional, or global crisis? Because billions have.
>>84516646>I watch movies, read books and cook tooSo you are a shut-in.This is the longest harm done by covid policies. It rewarded anti-social shut-ins and punished normal people.>Explain how this is supposedly badAdministering a medicine by force (even if indirect or by not-so-veiled threats) is evil. It doesn't even matter if the medicine works or not.>i have a thing called an immune systemYou had one.After taking the myocarditis-inducing experimental gene therapy clotshot you have what's left of an immune system. Maybe. If you're lucky.
>>84516646>if you're already looking at it from the perspective of the vaccine being made to harm youIt literally harmed people. It gave my mom bells palsy and killed healthy young people by giving them heart issues. SO glad I was already graduated and wasn't pressured to take it. Did you take it or not? You seem weirdly blase about the vaccine but didn't say if you actually took it. Facts: The vaccine was rushed, discussing side effects got you deplatformed and it was forced on people. If you support that you are fucked in the head
>>84516684>>84516686God you're fucking stupid. I'm not even firmly opposed to the idea that the vaccine might have had a mildly elevated risk profile, but you genuinely have the mind of a 12 year old. You've been saying this shit constantly on 4chan for the past six years, haven't you?
>>84516701... this is the part where you were supposed to state your case not screech and namecall. Man vaccoids really got nothing between the ears.
>>84516701>vaccine might have had a mildly elevated risk profilevaccines killed healthy young people, anon. This is the truth. Hiding it under gobbledygook like "mildly elevate risk profile" doesn't change that.and yes, I will never forgive. Intentionally harming vaccinopaths has been my default pleasure since 2020. I got several dozens of doctors in prison since 2020. And for as long as a vaccinopath is alive, he/she should be afraid that I might find him/her and find a way to legally harm them just because I can.Calling me 12 year old won't change the fact that actual 12 year olds were killed by the clotshot. And it doesn't remove the blood on the hands of everyone who supported this madness.
>>84516728>I got several dozens of doctors in prison since 2020not him but extremely based, fuck doctors.
>>84516767it's amazing how easy it is to harm doctors perfectly legal if one just reads procedure and law and start actively watching their activity. All of them are corrupt (in a legal sense) and all of them commit at least on felony a month. It's just a matter of patience to catch the right moment and get a prosecutor on your side who wants to make some quick wins (easy to find those in my country).My goal is to remove from society all of the big doctors who shilled for the vaxx and especially for the social restrictions and lockdowns. It's about 400 of them. So I'm 1/4 in (prioritizing for the oldest ones because I want all of them to live enough to suffer and be punished).
>>84516050Doesn't matter if they weren't vocal about it. They must be destroyed and I want them to suffer the most agonizing hell imaginable for infinite timelines. Just following orders is not a valid excuse. Anyone who took the vaccine is deserving of eternal damnation. There are no neutral parties here. It is only good and evil. The person who silently took the vaccine and walked out with a donut is exactly as evil and culpable as Trump who started warpspeed, Biden who said winter of death, and fauci who said me likely gay bathhouses and buttfucking little children.I want them all to burn in agony.
>>84516487Does your family not do thanksgiving or christmas anymore?It makes sense to patch things up with family members if you keep seeing them at family functions
>>84516684Kind of like how they administer written exams at college by force then? You can choose not to sit them, can't you? Or is it by force? Please pick one.>After taking the myocarditis-inducing experimental gene therapy clotshot you have what's left of an immune system. Maybe. If you're lucky.Explain how it is mycarditits-inducing and why I have gotten over the usual number of colds and flus at the same rate before and after the """plandemic""" where they injected me with poison. Should I be having more sicknesses? Or should I be struggling to get over them? That's funny how even having 1% of an immune system works. Or maybe they just eradicated all the colds and flus and replaced them with weak ones so no one notices right? This is why it's not even far-fetched to make fun of antivaxxers by bringing up the Bill Gates nanomachines because their fantasies are so removed from reality they have to be a little loopy in the head to believe what they say>>84516686I did, and so did both my parents and a number of elderly relatives and they're all fine. It's been years now and literally nothing has changed. I can still hike, cycle and whatever else with no issue. That is why I seem blase about it because its impact on my life and the lives of everyone around me has been nothing. Imagine if someone online insisted everyone who eats potatoes gets physically destroyed forever. That's the kind of thing I have to read
>>84516571Some of you may die, but it's a sacrifice l am willing to make.
>>84516844I have to see him and this wife this Saturday but I don't care. Until I get an apology I will never even consider letting him back into my life. Only reason I will pretend to be nice is for the sake of our poor mom.
>>84510655the most interesting part about any of it is 4chan calling it back in 2019 when it was first cropping up in china, was funny to see my family discussing /pol/ schizo predictions i'd read a few months prior like it was fresh news
>>84516512Lmfao I just saw this response fucking hilarious you got offended over me talking bad about antivaxxers. It's literally the rule for you fucking freaks you all have some story like that in your closet.
>>84516893Sorry I just woke up I meant vaxxers kek
>>84516893by freaks you mean most of the world probably? so most of the world is evil?
>>84516848>collegeI don't give a shit about college, nigga. I do give a shit about people's jobs, livelihoods and mental health. A lot of that was destroyed and/or intentionally sabotaged because you were afraid of a fucking cough and you (including you personally) are excusing large scale institutionalized abuse in order to push for a shot that didn't work. You are the evil party here.>ExplainNo, I don't think I will. I just hope you fucking die as soon as possible. Your breathing is detrimental for the moral progress of civilization.>>84516857Fucking this! We literally killed children and healthy young people so the sickest and fattest boomers can live an extra 6 months (best case scenario). This "civilization" is retarded.
>>84516939Well you were responding to me and we were talking about people being coerced to be vaccinated for college specificallyOkay your argument was just getting mad and you can't explain how someone being expelled for refusing to sit exams is not coersion but expelling for not getting vaccinated is
>>84516705I didn't take the vaccine.>>84516728You're more retarded than scary, and young athletes having heart attacks at higher rates has been noted since at least the 80s. And that isn't gobbledygook (you have to be really fucking stupid to view that as incomprehensible or advanced language BTW), it's just a sane opinion. Were you this fucking stupid before the pandemic or did it bring out your latent lunacy?
>>84516434I am still not certain after all that's said and done whether the vax was effective, but the way you people communicate about it makes me default to the opinion it must have been a huge scam.If you could stop using farthuffer scientism language and tard media terms like antivaxxer, it would greatly help your case.
>>84517195Yeah totally valid the truly reliable ones are geniuses like >>84516090
>>84510655I am a hiki, so they only people I know are my family, and they all thought the vax was bullshit. My dad was a firefighter and brought home a box of n95 masks and told us when it started those were the only ones that work and that everything else is show. Surgical masks and face coverings are not designed to protect against airborne viruses.
>>84517810Okay but just realistically if some guy with sneezed into a mask vs not into a mask do you think his sneeze droplets would get as far with the mask on? Have people been sneezing into tissues or their hands or elbows for no reason for years now? Did anyone ever go "akshually..." whenever someone covered their mouth during a coughing fit?The face coverings are just meant to limit spread at minimal cost and effort, that is all
>>84510655I'm right here what do you want to talk about? Do you want to talk about how you were told the vaccine was fake by people who were vaccinated or the fact you guys think Animal meds and drinking bleach was a cure? Also, I still wear mask. Come at me
>>84517195The effectiveness of vaccines is not debated by anyone serious, vaccines are well-understood by both science and layman. You could debate maybe mandates, shutdowns, the economic impact of pandemic protocols, should people lose their job for refusing the vaccine/mask, or any number of more rights-based or reasonable disagreement discussions.but if your selling point starts and ends at "I just don't understand vaccines" you're already outside of the bounds of what most people will consider a reasonable person worth arguing with.
>>84518175It might stop spittle, but the virus particles are airborne. There are viruses that can spread through saliva or mucus, but Covid wasn't one of them.The crazy part about all of it is we had this all figured out scientifi6c before covid started. We had an understanding of how viruses are spread. We had even developed a rating system to determine how effective equipment is at keeping you safe. That's what N95 was, it was a safety rating. My dad's frustration, after years of dealing with sick people every day, dealing with blood and airborne illnesses, hazmat, and being trained to use all sorts of PPE, he was astonished to see how people just started ignoring all of that at the drop.of a hat.And the ironic thing eas the retarded redditors in surgical masks and bandana were calling people science deniers. Fucking insanity.
>>84518250My whole thing was that if the vax works, and it's safe and effective, then you shouldn't need to mandate that I take it. If it works, you take it, and you'll be safe and protected from the virus.If you're mandating that I have to take it for you to be safe, im going to question the effectiveness of what you're injecting me with. And question if it's even a vaccine at all, especially when the people with 3 boosters are still catching the virus.Everyone I know of who got vaxxed still ended up with covid.
>>84518296You basically just confirmed my point, desu.
>>84518324I do agree that the people who are giving their kids no vaccines and think they're all harmful are retards, but I also think the people saying all vaccines are automatically safe and effective and we should just trust the science are also retards. Science dose'nt require your trust. All you need to do is run an experiment, that's what science is. The hypothesis is that the vaccine is safe and effective. I watch people inject themselves with it. They seem to still catch the virus and get sick. Some of them seem to be dying of heart issues with unknown causes. Therefore the experiment disproved the hypothesis, or at least shows that more data points are needed before I inject this thing into my own system.This is completely logical and scientific.
>>84518250This is a part of the problem for sure - clamping all scepticism together under the same common denominator of "antivax" as soon as anyone questions the effectiveness of a vaccine that's rushed through the door in 1 year that does not prevent contracting the disease, but supposedly eases symptoms and needs a continuous array of booster shots. If you're questioning what's probably the biggest single cashgrab in the recent history of many of these pharmaceutical corpos, that must mean you think ALL vaccines are scams, 5G causes malaria and lizard people rule the world.
>>84518296Being disingenuous is the whole point. They are the most evil people imaginable. They are effectively using words at random when pressuring others to take, the vaccine. They have no honesty or truth and don't regard such as being precious, useful, or even relevant. Take the vaccine or else you're killing grandma/killing me/killing yourself/causing global warming/masturbation dead kittens/spaghetti football magnus/... By raising questions such as the ones you mentioned or even thinking them to yourself you are committing lese majeste.
I guess it's time to post The Graph again.
>>84518264>There are viruses that can spread through saliva or mucus, but Covid wasn't one of them.It was though, why wouldn't it be? It's a respiratory illness. You sneeze and cough fluids out of your airways. The virus does not have a mechanism to say "I am going to leave these fluids as an individual viral capsid now". There's nothing on Google that says covid was somehow special in this regard compared to other other respiratory illnesses, and I'm not saying that's proof but this is a crazy claim. Where are you even getting this?Also we can't realistically have everyone in hazmat suits or whatever you're imagining from your dad lmao. That is for protecting ONE caregiver with very effective gear to eliminate chances of catching something especially deadly (e.g. ebola) vs providing a cheap population-level measure that reduces spread. The majority of people who put on disposable surgical masks never pretended they are now shielded from all disease, you are just arguing a strawman.>>84518296Okay let's follow your logic assuming the vaccine is safe and effective>Vaccine is safe and effective >Not mandated in any shape or form>Way fewer people take it cause da gubmint is bad and they put poison in it dude>More people dieDo you see how given the vaccine is effective, this is a worse outcome? The fact it got mandated in no way invalidates the fact it is safe. This is literally the same logic as flat earthers going "If it's really a globe then why do they have to censor us!! If it was true they wouldn't put those stupid banners about disinformation on our videos... "The people in charge all took it anyway. Unless you think it was just saline injections or whatever.>>84518401>I watch people inject themselves with it. They seem to still catch the virus and get sick. Some of them seem to be dying of heart issues with unknown causes.You watch this as in you're a nurse and you keep track of these people afterwards?
>>84515852>People debate ongoing issues.That's goal post moving to the question and the fact Biden and other presidents keeps getting brought up when /pol/ shit hits means, no, they don't debate just the current.
>>84520089People bring up the former president that the current president constantly brings up when stuff happens? Well if there's another pandemic then I'm sure covid will appear in regular conversation again. Pandemics aren't like presidents, what a retarded comparison. If you're gonna compare think of something like a mass shooter. No one is regularly talking abour Breivik, but it's more likely he's brought up when another big shooting happens somewhere. That is all
>>84520111That's even getting further away from the goal post anon and again you can look at how they are brought up and it has nothing to do with current events so much as "well my tribe is better than yours" which is more at the heart of why covid shit is so one sided, the people that did nothing had the same outcomes or better. There is no serious impact to them that couldn't be reflected on the other side so this becomes more of a theological debate based on faith.
>>84520129How is it shifting the goalpostThe question is "Why did these vaccinated RETARDS stop talking about the vaccine guys?? haha". The answer is that the pandemic ended and there is nothing relevant to discuss.Then you made a comparison to presidents to say "akshually people always talk about stuff that isn't relevant anymore". Do pandemics roll in on a 4-yearly basis? Will the next virus start shit-talking the last virus? I just said it's a bad comparison, I am not sure what the goalpost is here. The current president talks about the last president a lot and also he was like a funny senile character. Do you expect people talk about covid vaccines as much as Biden? Maybe they will if another vaccine gets mandated and we go through the same dumb arguments, but until then it is literally just old news.Here are some other things I don't see a lot of people talking about:>Thousands of huge movies that came out in the last few years>That recent mission to the moonEven to some extent the Ukraine Russia war is not talked about as much nowadays because there is another war that is the focus. Whether people talk about a topic or not doesn't make it somehow "fake" or validate one side over the other
>>84520151No you don't get it anon OP's point is completely ironclad and nothing can ever put a dent in it sorry...
>>84516373Antivaxxers are literally a cult. Being an antivaxxer is a religious experience for them. They have leaders they unquestionably obey, and anyone trying to talk facts and logic into them is seen as an attack on their faith.
>>84516728Once again, proving the undeniable fact that every antivaxxer has an IQ of below 80. Many of them are mentally handicapped schizos like this one as well.
>>84516795Name one doctor you got put into jail. If you can't, you're admitting you are a liar.
>>84519007You don't understand. Antivaxxers are literally a hivemind cult. The covid vaccine was just easier to use as a lure for new recruits into the cult because it was something new. Covid vaccines went through all the same required trials that any other vaccines had to. Yet people lie about it and make up bullshit about it, because fear is how you control your disciples. The antivaxxer cult preys on weak, fearful people because they are easy to manipulate and never question authority.
>>84510655>>84511183 >>84512532 >>84512564 >>84514223 >>84516107 >>84516460What they mean is that you're drawing them out of the fluoride stupor. Material is all they have, so the sight of agentic behavior that doesn't prostrate before the academic and corporate ideological institutions that provide them their material reality, really deeply disturbs and unsettles the reddit mind. They reject it entirely.If you locked one in a room and actually forced them to reason with you a priori with someone actually keeping the discussion on track, they would rather die after a few seconds of being separated from the hive and none of their millennial humor jibs working. It would be so unbearable that they would go into fits and convulsions and start trying to cast spells on you in hysteria or some shit.
>>84520390So how come your "original thinking" entails nothing but directly quoting others? You could write multiple paragraphs about your very original thoughts and feelings and not a single one would have your own twists or insights. It would all be slogans and regurgitations.
>>84520419>"original thinking"Who are you quoting? Certainly not I, because what a meaningless point that is
>>84520475different anon but it'd be certainly not "me". You wouldn't say "you aren't quoting I"
>>84520367>Covid vaccines went through all the same required trialsEmergency Use Authorization (EUA): Allows the use of unapproved medical products (or unapproved uses of approved products)Eat shit, liar.
>>84520490It doesn't sound funny if you say it like that
>>84520529>Allows the use of unapproved medical products (or unapproved uses of approved products)>For vaccines, the FDA still requires Phase 1, 2, and 3 clinical trials involving tens of thousands of people before granting an EUANot really an epic gotcha. Companies have to apply for an EUA based on data, it's not just "handed" to literally anyone who can put a liquid in a syringe. Antivaxxers love to make arguments based on feeling huhAlso all that stuff was approved under Trump anyway
>>84520390Verily my good gentlesir we are supremely intelligent *tips fedora*
>>84520529They went through all the required FDA tests. As usual, you are lying. Literally every argument antivaxxers make is a lie. Makes you wonder why they can never say even a single thing that is actually true.
>>84520575>>84520617Can you name a single other time an mrna gene therapy received full approval? Can you name a single other time any mrna gene therapy drug was allowed to bypass testing and be administered under EUA with less than 12 months of testing?This warp speed thing is highly unusual, it was and still is unprecedented for any other gene therapy application.
>>84520617No other vaccine was ever made that fast, stop making shit up
>>84520873You sound confused. You are talking about gene therapy. This thread is about vaccines.
>>84520884Yes they were, stop lying. Again, all the required FDA safety tests were made. This is clearly seen on the FDA website. If you have evidence to the contrary, that some mandatory tests were not made, then let's see your evidence.
>>84520617The COVID 19 vaccine went through an accelerated program, which was why it was initially it was authorized under the Emergency Use authorization.This is why the Johnson & Johnson vaccine was approved and then unapproved.It would have never gotten approval under the original schema
>>84520960>an accelerated programThat still went through all the required safety tests.>It would have never gotten approval under the original schemaIt literally went through the "old schema". Literally everything you antivaxxers say is a lie. There is no hope for you, you are submissive sheeple cultists who obediently believe everything your masters tell you.
>>84521012https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/13/us/politics/johnson-johnson-vaccine-blood-clots-fda-cdc.htmlCan you still get a Johnson & Johnson COVID vaccine in the US in 2026?https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/15/health/johnson-johnson-covid-vaccine-end
>>84521012I wonder if that's why nobody wants to talk to them anymore...? Nah, can't be. We're just ashamed of our dark past and are scared of being beaten down with facts and logic.
>>84520873>doesn't know what mrna is>doesn't know what gene therapy isexplain why an mRNA vaccine is somehow more evil than a DNA vaccine (which no one complained about)Unless of course you think they went through the effort of sneaking in retroviral enzymes and extra stuff instead of just fuckin giving people HIV or something easy
