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my parents think i am getting fit to get a girlfriend while in reality i am doing it so that i could start hrt and become a goth gf +_+
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>>84511073
can i get dibs and reserve a spot as your bf when ur ready
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>>84511073
idk if I'm going crazy or if there really is a normalization of gay shit going round
I mean, gays have been here forever but to see these kids go "hi looking for boyf" all over social media and seeing gay couples irl, its jarring to say the least
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>>84511134
with 80% women chasing 20% of men other men have mo option than to date other men
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>>84511196
I get the tops desu but why do bottoms exist then?
Is the thought process really "I can't fuck so might as well get fucked"
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>>84511229
it doesnt take much for a passive shy feminine straight guy to end up a bottom, especially if there is estrogen involved since it makes you subbier
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Uhh you're supposed to start the HRT first
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>>84511295
I'm a straight cis femboy looking guy and I tried estrogen for a bit and the sexual orientation change and dick shrinking was so reverse dysphoric for me I had to stop it, I was legit getting suicidally depressed from the estrogen like a trans man would, or something. The thought of becoming a bottom was horrible
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>>84511307
it must be weird for that to happen and for you to not like it
I've been on estrogen for years now and have no attraction to women at all anymore
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>>84511229
>I get the tops desu but why do bottoms exist then?
in the gay world it's the opposite. there is a top shortage so guys that do are in high demand.
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>>84511073
you can already start hrt and lose weight while on it. Then gradually gain some of it later. It would shorten the process.
Btw, the fat redistribution effect takes 2+ years to become visible. HRT isn't magic.
Good luck with the goals. Be realistic about them and stay away from the brainworms.
>>84511353
>I've been on estrogen for years now and have no attraction to women at all anymore
Based. I still hope that ends up happening to me too. Only a bit over a year on it. It did amplify my androphilia though which is great. Now I enjoy flirting with men and hopefully this summer will find my bf.
Ideally I become a full femfag with a stable bf.
>>84511307
>The thought of becoming a bottom was horrible
You know you don't HAVE TO become a bottom, right?
Still, if you want to keep the femboy-ish looks, a bit of estrogen is going to be necessary. Just keep the doses lower.
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>>84511445
>hopefully this summer will find my bf
hello queen
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>>84511455
don't call me that. sadly iwnbaw.
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>>84511465
sorry, original
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>>84511390
idea: straight guys should date gay guys and the women get to die alone and unloved
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>>84511073
I know this is a fag thread but I've always wanted a stinky neet gf I could groom into a goth or japanese alt fashion princess. Buying her clothes and encouraging her to learn makeup and stuff and going out together to show off how cute she is.

But I'm not a fag so this will never happen for me. cis women just aren't interested in being cute sadly.
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>>84511546
>cis women just aren't interested in being cute
how is it possible that men are more interested in being cute and feminine than actual women
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>>84511640
If you want a serious answer it's because women associate cuteness with oppression and societal expectations.
It's like if you were raised from birth to idolize being chad and masculine and a breadwinner and "taking charge" and society groomed you to want this thing so you can fulfill your role and your parents constantly pressured you into fulfilling this role they had decided for you without your consent and if you don't fit this role you are seen as a "lesser" man and undesirable etc.

For men being cute is just something we appreciate as a spectator but for women being cute is a role they are expected to engage in or they will be judged harshly, it's a societal shackle.

So I have sympathy for the foids that don't want to be cute because I also don't want to conform to the role society assigned me from birth, I just wanna be a NEET househusband that loves his wife and takes care of her emotional needs not a wagecuck that makes money for Jews. But also my sexual and romantic needs require a cute woman so I just can't vibe with women that hate being cute. It can't be helped I suppose.
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>>84511481
trade offer accepted
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>>84511073
I just been getting fit just so I can be healthy. 2 months in now and I probably have a tumor or cyst now.
Fuck my life *W*
Anyways why would you want to be a goth chick and not a goth dude?
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>>84511073
im a hon and it is very over.
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>>84511134
niggas getting prison gay. tbdesu I wish I could, I'd get on grindr and TOP some faggots, but I'm just not attracted to dudes
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>>84512758
Are you at least a skinny goth hon?
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I wish I could do makeup so fucking badly but its so overwhelming and confusing, im too retarded for it. Ill never be pretty
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>>84511675
lot of words for saying ewish propaganda
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>>84511073
>Only reason guys get in shape now is to play out their sexual fetish
sad
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>>84512778
>prison gay
doesn't exist.
what exists is that there are more bifags than straggots or faggots. most bifags repress or don't even explore their attraction to men. it's just that now slightly fewer bifags are willing to repress and slightly more start exploring.
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>>84511546
you gotta look for stinky neet bf to groom instead



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