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Why do liberals like ugly art? What makes them gravitate towards all ugly stuff
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>>84534592
That second place guy's art is beuatiful so clearly it's still held in esteem
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>>84534606
No its to humiliate us further to say that one is better even though we know 2 is better
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>>84534592
they worship browns. that is basically the core point of leftism in present day. they want to demoralize whites and replace them
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>>84534636
>>84534611
Why do u guys act like u care about art go back to ur video games and porn
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>>84534641
lmao literally this meme
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>>84534652
If u cared enough you wouldn't allow these institutions to be filled with liberals but you don't care. Only people who genuinely care about art , classics , books and any artistic expression are liberals. Tell me do any of your chuddy friends know how to draw anon


Go draw something right now anon maybe your hand can you do it?
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>>84534592
>Why do ugly people like ugly art
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>>84534652
nta but I enjoy the fact that chud jak posters like yourself have to sit here and try multiple times to post your low effort replies because of the originality filter. The stilted way you said that made it obvious you got filtered and had to try again.

I agree with the other anon, stop embarrassing yourself by talking about art if you're a jak posting chud, it carries the same energy as a California vegan leaving a bad review at an Arby's.
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>>84534689
The people who pour effort in maintaining these art galleries and institutions are leftists and liberals who are passionate about it. This guy probably hasn't been to art gallery in decades or never but thinks his input is needed.
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>>84534592
Sean Layh should have painted more aboriginals in a corporate memphis style instead of dynamic scenes of filthy white people if he wanted first prize.
>>84534641
Yeah, it's a mystery as to why the general public doesn't care about shitty modern art when art schools, governments, and prizes snub anyone with any talent so they can promote some dei mystery meat queer with a portfolio of mixed media blobs of garbage #1-20,000
>>84534675
>you can't criticize art unless you can do it yourself
No art school is letting in anyone who doesn't kowtow to libshit politics and if you hid your power level, you would be condemning yourself to creating the kind of soulless "fine art" that wins these prizes and government grants if you were planning to sustain yourself on your art.
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>>84534611
>No its to humiliate us further to say that one is better even though we know 2 is better
That's ridiculous and you know it
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Maybe my brain is broken, but I'd rather look at stuff that's conceptually punchy than most figurative, "realistic" stuff.
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>>84534675
NTA I don't particularly care about some art prize in Australia, but this is just another symptom of a wider global ideology that's deliberately uglifying our built environment. from brutalist/anti-human architecture and grotesque modern statues to degraded "art" that rejects beauty
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>>84534707
thats how leftists function
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>>84534700
>Sean Layh should have painted more aboriginals in a corporate memphis style instead of dynamic scenes of filthy white people if he wanted first prize.


Here's the thing though art is suppose to illicit a reaction and one that won has probably given archibald most attention world it'll ever get. Plus oil paintings have been done so many times over past 3 centuries that they're now considered boring in art world. One is another imitation of an art form done for centuries while other is genuinely unique art piece of old grandma that makes you feel warm looking at it.
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>>84534735
No it's cause you're pointing out what's essentially an apt for low income workers to some monument chud. There's lot of good architecture you just don't look
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>>84534750
>genuinely unique art piece
It looks like all the flat corporate shit you see plastered all over everywhere.
>old grandma that makes you feel warm looking at it
If you're a soulless automaton, maybe. The winning entry looks like corporate blandness. Layh's art actually has some feeling behind it.
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>>84534793
Cause you lack eye for art anon and don't know beauty when it hits you in face.
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>>84534799
Keep sucking corporate cock, faggot.
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>>84534741
What an asinine quote, cementing your inferior intellect to your dogshit opinions
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>>84534817
Listen chuddy art is beyond simple cavemen antics of

>This pic look good so better
>thus pic no look good so I hate


That's what your opinions amount to and it tells me you're a superficial person who never actually knows how to read art pieces emotions from art.


Go look at art piece again and tell me what emootins do you feel?
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>>84534832
As an Australian, I feel like I am about to be asked for spare change.
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It feels like abstraction is tied up in this cultural logic that's obsessed with challenging "dominant discourse" or whatever, so "marginalized voices" get a leg up in terms of exposure when a lot of their stuff is just gay low-effort slop.

On on the other hand all the chuds want to RETVRN for whatever reason, prattling on about "muh talent" or "muh SOVL" when what they should be concerned with is the present. People seem to take it entirely for granted that great right wing art doesn't exist, meanwhile they've been living in a world shaped by its ideas and images since 2014.

I wish there was a middle ground somewhere. It feels like a lot of right wing people reject abstraction or socially conscious works without realizing how much cultural purchase they owe to abstract, socially conscious phenomena such as meme culture.
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>>84534832
>Go look at art piece again
>tell me what emootins do you feel?
I feel nothing looking at it, jeet.
It's the safest, blandest piece of dogshit I can imagine.
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>>84534838
There you go anon it's like you can relate to art and feel just at home. Does it ring why memories , experiences or stories you'd like to tell us >>84534840
>chuds want to RETVRN for whatever reason

If they cared they would start their own art centers and promote it but they don't care.
>>84534851
It's making you mad though isn't that a feeling
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>>84534750
>genuinely unique art piece of old grandma that makes you feel warm
it's a petrol-huffing abo
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>>84534854
You are correct, true art evokes the discomfort of being at the train station and having a drunk old Aboriginal woman ask if you have a fiver.
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>>84534854
>It's making you mad though isn't that a feeling
by your logic goatse is high art
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>>84534860
>>84534861
Here's the thing though negative or positive your more interested in that abo grandma than any of the other art pieces
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>>84534854
This makes me feel something.
This makes me wonder what they're whispering about.
This makes me remember similar summer twilight days of my childhood.

Your soulless corporate garbage makes me feel nothing, jeet.
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>>84534592
ink illustrations and comic art is the best form of art. kys painter fags
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>>84534832
The appeal is in its subject, not so much its depiction. The appeal resides in the broader discourse works like this participate in, and that feels like a copout to most ordinary onlookers who simply see a cynical attempt to leverage identity politics in order to gain exposure.

What does that painting do for you, anon?
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>>84534592
>Why do liberals like ugly art? What makes them gravitate towards all ugly stuff
For the same reason that conservatives love AI generated Jesus images.
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>>84534869
This makes me feel cold when I look at it.
This gives me a sense of desolation but also beauty.
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>>84534869
>conservative chud
>picked a painting where he wants to know what two little girls are talking about
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this art is so boring I understand the liberal mindset just give me a nigger and the color orange
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>>84534873
Cause most chuds think that art is just suppose to be pretty To look at like a how men hundred years ago viewed women. I bee most of anons made at the art piece and those who hate women overlap a lot
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>>84534832
Not that guy but I feel disgust
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>>84534885
This is imposing and dramatic and chaotic.
There's a feeling of urgent danger and the more I Iook at it, the more I wonder how such a situation came to be.
I love that it captures movement so well. It looks like any second now that image will unfreeze and that wave will come crashing down.
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>>84534908
> the more I wonder how such a situation came to be.
I love that it captures movement so well. It looks like any second now that image will unfreeze and that wave will come crashing down.


You are still unable to capture meaning of art. Let me ask you a simple question

Why did artist have boat seemingly about to hit rock while surround by drowning apes? Why are there apes in water anon
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>>84534920
Not that guy but "meaning of art"?
Isn't all art interpretation inherently subjective? At least that's what lefties say all the time. But suddenly there is an objective way to engage with art? Lol
To be clear, I think what you like in art *is* subjective, but I don't want to live in a society that glorifies the image of that badly drawn ugly woman in orange background. I believe in freedom of association (libertarian), my dream is that one day I am not bound to this ugly dirty decaying leftist society I live in.
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>>84534920
>You are still unable to capture meaning of art
You're a jeet who looks at corporate clipart and goes "wow, gee whiz, I feel warm and fuzzy, time to buy stuff". That's all the depth of feeling you have.

>Why are there apes in water anon
They're out of their element and trapped in a hopeless desperate situation. They were removed forcibly from their homes and are now facing their demise without any understanding or choice in the matter.

Now run along and go be a gay little turd somewhere else.
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idealization is cringe

stop putting things on a pedestal and borderline idolatry

those people shit and have sex and were probably awful humans
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>>84534955
>They're out of their element and trapped in a hopeless desperate situation. They were removed forcibly from their homes and are now facing their demise without any understanding or choice in the matter.


You're not getting it why are there apes in water? It could've been other humans and why is she only one on boat anon.
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>>84534964
I agree
It's time to stop treating negroes (or abos in this case) as Gods and protected classes just because they do worse (due to their lower IQ and lower impulse control). No more welfare. And the DEI policies giving them priority over more capable or talented people have to go.
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Ugliness isn't always a bad thing. I think the cool thing about artistic contemplation is it gives us a space to speak the unspeakable - the ugly parts of ourselves and our world are redeemed when conveyed via an artistic device of some kind.

Tragedy, suffering, degeneracy, discontent, it all finds new estimation when exhibited artistically. The decadent and the immoral take on new airs of sophistication.

Beauty is interesting to me, because I see a lot of anons that seem to privilege it in their cultural attitudes while bemoaning its tyrannies in their personal life. They recognize the halo effect, but don't think to question the impact between their aesthetic judgements and their moral ones: chad does what chad wants, but if you're a hiki/NEET chud suddenly it's "hello human resources?!"

Their analysis begins and ends there - they privilege their own suffering, which prevents them from connecting with pain as a universal facet of the human condition. Loneliness and contempt govern their hearts.

A lot of contemporary art you see from fatties with blue hair is addressing the same phenomenon - beauty standards, and the role that media and institutions play in their cultural reproduction. Who is beautiful and why, who reaps the benefits and who gets stuck with the burdens etc. etc.

The chuds and the idpol retards both have a complex relationship with beauty standards. Sad!
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>>84534965
>It could've been other humans
No it couldn't have been, not to create the meaning that I already explained and you're too stupid to understand.
Everything you've said has been the most superficial level of engagement with bland art while talking shit about how nobody understands the "true meaning" except for you. Nobody is falling for your bullshit.
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What's the point in realism when we have cameras?
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>>84534975
It doesn't matter how much "body positivity" you push, people will always prefer better looking people over ugly people. Because it is biological.
Why is it that I as an uglier guy want to look at art featuring uglier guys? I don't understand. I'm also not mad at getting rejected by women. Not a resentful or envious person (I'm not an authoritarian, much less a leftist authoritarian).
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>>84534735
How are people supposed to live inside a Masonic temple?
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>>84534641
>>84534675
>>84534689
never let these fucking retards gaslight you into thinking this is some kind of failure of white people or something, it's just fucking women who see a poop person and think "omg i feel so bad for them, i have to pretend i care about them"
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>>84534985
You could easily have taken a picture of a real aboriginal woman. And it'd be even uglier than the painting, providing people with a greater feeling of disgust - therefore making the painting pointless using your train of thought.
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>>84534986
should want*
I forgot the should :(
ESL moment
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>>84535000
It's a failure of brown chuds not being able to draw, white chuds died out by 2019
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>>84534973
you must be joking if you think blackies have more privilege than whites
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>>84535017
Timmycels can't cope
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>Richard Lewer completed a Bachelor of Fine Art at Elam School of Fine Arts at Auckland University from 1989 to 1992. He also holds a Master of Visual Arts, Victorian College of the Arts, from the University of Melbourne, 2000.
>Sean Layh is a self-taught artist from Melbourne
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>>84534592
I know this is ragebait, but I'll bite and explain it anyway. Basically for a long time artists tried to perfect their skill in painting as realistically as possible, where the best art was the one that reflected nature as closely as possible.
This shifted with the invention of photography. Now no matter how skilled you are, your pictures will never be as good at capturing reality as a photo. So as a reaction to this, art shifted from trying to express reality to trying to express ideas. First things like impossible structures or scenes, but this evolved further to more abstract ideas.

Additionally as access to art became more widespread, the question came up what makes good art. If you see something that makes you think "well thats nice" you already forgot it once you see the next "nice" thing. So "great" art needs to stand out, by making people think and talk about it. Being very proficient isn't sufficient for that, instead you try to invoke strong emotions, break social boundaries or do anything that keeps people talking.

So the goal of modern art is not to be beautiful, there is so much beautiful art around, your art won't stand out. The goal is to be something different
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>>84534986
I suppose it depends on what it is you're consuming. I wouldn't want to watch some hot guy do stand up comedy, for example. I wouldn't want to listen to some hot guy make incelcore music either, my first impressions would be polluted by a disconnect I perceive between the person making the art and what meaning their art is looking to embody.

Same reason a lot of people won't listen to rap music about the hood made my white suburban guys - there's a perceived lack of "authenticity". Almost certainly the same story with fat they/them types presenting as "beautiful", or even trannies pretending to be women - notice how a lot of anons will permit a tranny if they pass well enough?

All that said, I have a certain admiration for body-positivity types inasmuch as they quarry with "beauty" as a culturally inherited phenomenon we take for granted, but you're definitely right that a lot of them are living in copesville if they think they're going to socially engineer the majority of men into thinking fat chicks are hot.

There's a deeper beauty within us all that surfaces conceal. Wokescolds do a really shit job of conveying that though, and a lot of the time all people perceive is anger and resentment. But that's fine I guess - a lot of the artworks created by rightoids are angry and resentful also.
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>>84535023
White ppl be like
"spend years getting muh degrees only to lose to a much more capable and talented POC in the art competition"
HAHAHAHA
Pathetic
Timmies mad
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>>84535045
I can't relate to that at all. Maybe it's because I spend a lot of time with anime/manga and the like where all characters look beautiful by default, but ugliness is really off putting.
I suppose I am a very superficial person. Applies to other areas of life as well.
The music I listen to for example I listen for the melody, and give little thought to lyrics. Voices can add to the experience (especially if they're soft and feminine) but lyrics themselves are meaningless. Unless they are too vulgar and annoying - one of the reasons I dislike rap (another would be that people talking or "rapping" completely disrupts the melody and ruins a song for me).
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>>84535043
calling it "art" makes you just as guilty for subverting the talent, skill and prowess of actual artists, either you have a cunt, a large nose or have been utterly mindbroken by those 2 demographics into accepting the rape of the concept of art itself
art is what you use to decorate
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>>84534592
Leftism is to a significant extent the rejection of order, beauty, and goodness. The left worships chaos, ugliness, and criminality.
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>>84535046
They are both white tho
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>>84535076
I mean if that's all that counts for you, thats fine. It's just not what artists consider art. Take OPs post. If it weren't for the so called shitty art that won first place, OP would have never cared for the so called great art that made second place.
So if the great art is so great, why did it need the other art to be recognized?

Artists do not just want to create something you look at and forget, they want to create something that leaves an impression.
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>>84535101
if the second place art looked the same as the first place art no one would care
i will not argue with you further on this as you are clearly enjoying the subversion you're partaking in
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>>84535078
Post some artworks you like.

In fact, everyone ITT should be posting more artworks!
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>>84535046
Lewer was the one who drew the abbo you dumb shitskin.
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>>84535106
Sure thing; I love this type of landscape painting.
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>>84535131
I really enjoy some primitive art.
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>>84534832
>Go look at art piece again and tell me what emootins do you feel?
disgusted mostly anon.
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>>84534592
>Why do liberals like ugly art?
jewish genes
>What makes them gravitate towards all ugly stuff
jewish genes
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>>84535105
>if the second place art looked the same as the first place art no one would care
But that's his point.

Let's say we flipped the paintings: let's say Sean Layh painted a bunch of photorealistic depictions of aboriginal people, and instead of painting aboriginal people Richard Lewer depicted Layn's works in the same naive style - landscapes and all.

Which would you prefer? The technically proficient painting of aboriginal people, or the sloppy and naive versions of Layh's works?

Personally, I'd prefer the sloppy and naive stuff. A painting can be technically proficient while still being boring - a photorealistic painting of a throbbing cock might get some people going, but no matter how much time and talent it took it's not going to do much for me.

Which brings me to my main point: art is meaning given embodiment. Some people reject realism in favour crude and naive forms, others prefer more ornate, technical works.

Some people need to paint a lot to say little, others paint a little and manage to say a lot.
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>>84535043
>The goal is to be something different
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>>84535105
You are so close to understanding it. Yes if every picture looked like this it wouldn't stand out anymore. This art only works in contrast to the expectations.

As an example, do you like standup comedy like Dave chapel? The reason why he us funny is because he breaks expectations. He says things that no sane person would say in the situations he sets up. Same concept. If you do what everyone else does it's boring and forgettable
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>>84535152
>>Why do liberals like ugly art?
>jewish genes
>>What makes them gravitate towards all ugly stuff
>jewish genes
unironically true
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>>84535160
>This art only works in contrast to the expectations.
Because I'm expecting some retarded woke shit to win and seeing actual art is surprising? Yes, you're correct, it does defy expectations to see good art
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>>84535023
/ic/chads win again
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>>84534592
The world is ugly. Only stupid people will try and pretend that it isn't.
Second place is too generous for that art station slop.
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>>84535163
if you rounded up all the scum posting on reddit, all the antifa and other activists, you'd find that they all have like 5-10% jewish admixture, even if they don't consider themselves jewish
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>>84535192
>The world is ugly and was always ugly
>Therefore we should make ugly art of ugly things
>Fantasy? What's that lol, a cope for being an incel loser?
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What (artistically) did he mean by this?
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>>84535175
Don't lie to me here. You do not care about art prices. You probably haven't been in an contemporary art exhibition in the past decade if ever. You only care about this because you saw it online.

Why do you have so strong emotions about this?
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>>84535213
Leftist art = humiliation ritual
The only question that should cross your mind when you look at that is "who is this meant to humiliate?".
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>>84534641
Video games are art, you faggot.
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>>84535221
NTA but I also find modern art to be ugly and gay and I think it is no coincidence it is all made by leftists.
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>>84534592
All art must serve The Message under kiked societies
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>>84535221
It's funny seeing you try so hard to troll me because you think I'm an impressionable dumbass. In reality I'm a normal person.
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>>84535225
So is porn lol.
With that being said, I prefer it when people don't consider video games art. That's when truly imaginative games that take advantage of the medium thrive. Whereas when the wider public considers them art instead of toys for children failed movie directors spam linear moviegame sloppa.
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>>84535223
I actually like it a lot. Manages to say a lot with very little: on one level it's a commentary on exhibition value, the art world, and the relationship between language and representation - on the other, it's a shameless pisstake.

Puts me in mind of stuff like He Will Not Divide Us in a roundabout way. I like it when social experiments piss people off.
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According to the dishonest commie shitskins ITT, art can be literally anything as long as it promotes ideological propaganda. Therefore I could get into my truck and paint the roads with a bunch of fleeing currymonkeys. Shut up chud, it's art! >:)
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>>84535227
No thats definitely a coincidence. It's also not a hidden agenda, its really obvious if you think more than two seconds about itthe fundamental core underpinning conservatism is the believe that the way things used to be is the way they are supposed to be.
Anything that is out of order is discouraged. So an environment like art, which tries to actively push boundaries is not something attractive to conservatives.

Some fields just naturally attract one or the other. Similar as there aren't many conservative scientists, or not many liberals working for the police
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>>84535235
Yet you can't stop responding :^)
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>>84535212
All true btw. Go read some more Sandershit fantasy baby.
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>>84534592
I like art. I currently printed these out and framed them and will be placing them around my trailer. I have the Epson 8550 so I can also print 13x19 and have that placed all over as well.I absolutely love good looking girls and wonderful bodies, but I'm a lifelong virgin because I do not like the smell in real life. God people smell terrible on their pussy stink to High Heavens
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>>84535251
Huh, that's what people say when all attempt at a debate fails and they have no choice to admit they're a troll. Guess you are a troll after all.
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>>84535245
Why does pushing boundaries always result in the same ugly gay garbage? Why not push boundaries and create something good?
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>>84535265
Porn addiction is one hell of a drug.
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>>84535271
I've already won the debate multiple posts ago when you stopped responding to the contents of the argument, so now I'm just enjoying how you can't stop trying to defend yourself :P
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>>84535244
Well, yeah basically. Art is meaning given embodiment. So long as you can convey meaning in an interesting way, doesn't really matter how you do it.

A lot of people experience art in a very compartmentalized way - they separate the art from the artist in an attempt to have the work "speak for itself".

This is a mistake.

Getting to know who made something and why they made it is what art is really for - it's an ongoing process of observation, identification, and interpretation. It's the art of life itself - contemplation provokes new ways of seeing, and with new eyes to see the world is reborn: things we take for granted begin to participate in new forms of beauty, and through contemplation we discover new forms of meaning, and we begin to see unity in particulars.

Art is kind of religious in that way.

All that being said, it's definitely a shell-game - I could paint a red circle, call it "blue square", and all of a sudden my work becomes a thought-provoking analysis of labour alienation under late stage capitalism and the complicity of party politics in this phenomenon or whatever. Maybe I'm a sicko but that's part of the fun - playing tricks, spinning straw into gold and stunlocking retarded faggots.
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>>84534652
meanwhile rightoid "art" they ACTUALLY POST on a day to day basis looks like pic related instead. even this dude I'm replying to came in here to share his ugly MSPaint scribble.
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>>84535337
It sounds like a lot of self-indulgent gay bullshit that appeals to the left wing pseudo-intellectual crowd.
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>>84535212
Yeah that garbage you attached to your post was really beautiful bro. You get it from a diaperfur with a scat fetish?
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>>84535349
To be honest these ms paint scribbles are more interesting and creative than 99% of what I saw at the met.
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>>84535357
I'm sure that's true about you.
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>>84535349
>errrmm my argument is that ms paint template maymays are official art of your side!!
I don't think I've ever seen an actually honest libshit on this board. I don't expect them to be though since they're all chronically lying vermin.
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>>84535364
At least they are topical to something more than one person can understand whereas modern art is all like
>This poorly drawn rectangle represents my nigger baby abortion
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>>84535349
That's because saars and mexicans have no taste, you can even see it in this thread
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>>84534592
>>84534606
Reminder that Repooplickins and rightoids can't create. Their entire politics is centered around destruction. That's why Trump bombed that Iranian girls school.
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>>84534678
Repooplickins aren't people, but good point.
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>>84534698
>>84534700
>>84534741
Repooplickins don't do anything but destroy beautiful things.
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>>84535371
>turdie can't into abstraction
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>>84535259
There is a primordial truth to this. Art is about more than the art itself, it is about the person viewing it and the society and world in which they inhabit. All must come together to a point where the art is experienced by a conscious being.

So 100 years ago they painted a prestigious white man. A man who held actual power, a man with a classical education, well spoken painted by a classically trained artist, him and his audience sat abreast millennia of western culture. Now it's this woman who is there just because she is ethnic and some woke special interest group infiltrated the art council and made sure the winning prize would be virtue signalling to stick it to the man, as always.

Meanwhile back in the aboriginal reservation they are still suffering from alcoholism, domestic abuse and rape, the woke left doesn't actually give a shit about these people. The woman is a symbol of who is in control. Like those court dwarfs and black page boys in funny outfits that stand confidently in renaissance paintings. They are a living extension of their masters, accepting of being in the little world created for them to inhabit where they perform menial tasks and look colorful and animated like a cartoon character. Now the master's page boy stares at us!

We became a bunch of liberals and socialists, we became a bunch of cucks, we are weaker. It doesn't matter that we chose to be weak and could very easily not be, the end result is the same. We are weak, we stopped caring about art and gatekeeping it from these twats and so of course it was easy for them to infiltrate and subvert and make literally everything about their social causes and have all the normies sit and clap and pretend this doodle is stunning, brave and powerful even though it is 2026 and we've seen these cringe attempts to stick it to the man who was last relevant 50 years ago.

In the 100 year old painting we see the man, and, you know, maybe he wasn't all that bad.
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>>84535375
It is actually the left that cannot create. As conservative author JRR Tolkien famously said: evil cannot create.
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>>84534869
>>84534885
>>84534908
Share her Archibald submission.
The competition is meant to be for portraits, I think.
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>>84535350
Absolutely, it is beyond self-indulgent and it's beyond pretentious.

All the same, more rightoids should take art more seriously. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, they spend all their time bemoaning modernity and looking to RETVRN by copying shit from a hundred years ago like boring faggots, all the while the very new and novel contributions they make to contemporary society in the form of meme culture are taken for granted.

The right wing's contributions to the contemporary avant-garde are way more interesting than a lot of stuff you see from leftists exhibiting in galleries. Leftists talk about praxis, about their art "changing the world", but compared to how crude wojak memes have changed it their HR-speak idpol slop is a total nothingburger.

The right wing shouldn't be afraid to embrace chaos, uncertainty, ugliness and more.
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>>84535386
Name one beautiful thing they destroyed.

>>84535387
Why does abstraction just mean ugly gay nonsense with you people?
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>>84535272
Well what is "good"? Do you mean by good photorealistic? Do you mean pleasant to look at? Neither may be the goal.

If you look at the works of Richard Lewer, you can clearly see that he can draw really well. But his style some aspects are deliberately crude, like the shapes of people, but some are very detailed like faces. Also in every piece there is a different focus on what is crude and what not. So it's definitely not that he can't paint realistic people, but instead that he chooses not to. So the question is why, and what does he want to show?
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>>84535402
>Why does abstraction just mean ugly gay nonsense with you people
Is your little brownoid brain to dumb to understand?
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>>84535396
oops, I read Sean as Sarah. *his
>pic: trying to view Archibald
definitely no bias in this competition
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>>84535407
Yeah, westerners used to make beautiful amazing art and now its all just this rectangle represents sodomy.
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>>84534900
Were you nodding out just a bit when you wrote that?
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>>84534689
>try multiple times
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>>84535406
Good art is beautiful and inspires the imagination. Like this.
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>>84535402
>Why does abstraction just mean ugly gay nonsense with you people?

What do you make of this?
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>>84535424
>saaar reveals himself
Knew it
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>>84535396
>>84535421
got it
This was the 2nd place. The "Packing Room Prize".
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>>84535402
>Name one beautiful thing they destroyed
Architecture and city aesthetics through building codes.
Reagans government is responsible for the changes in regulation that resulted in the destruction of beautiful historic city centers and replace them with motorways as well as the creation of suburbia while is monotone and lifeless.

Conservatives were worse to architecture in the US than WW2 lel
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>>84534868
If it hadn't won an award I would have scrolled right past it without even registering it as more than basic bitch clipart
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>>84535431
This looks like something you'd find in a post office. Doesn't do much for me.
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>>84535437
Extremely boring, hard to even call it art.
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>>84535431
And what kind of imagination does this spark in you? Honestly the first thought in my mind is that this scenery doesn't really make sense biologically
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>>84535375
meanwhile in reality you have to check if the art you like is made by a "chud"
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>>84535355
Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comforted.
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>>84535476
A mysterious magical forest. Check this one out: sailing off Greenland in the summer.
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>>84534592
>western art has fallen o algo
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>>84535489
But it should never say nigger
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>>84535507
This is what every city will look like when leftists get their way. But hey, at least youll have ugly ass art made by dykes and faggots.
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>>84535512
>This is what every city will look like when leftists get their way
No they just create gentrified areas where they push out africans and mexicans by driving up the rent and property prices
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>>84535476
you must be fun at parties mr. ssri
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>>84535388
Too high IQ post for these trolls and ragebaiters
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>>84534986
Do you wanna be normie cattle
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>>84535457
I disagree.

In a few basic shapes, that image manages to capture pain and longing in a really interesting way. With a few rectangles you get a really punchy commentary on dreams, limitations, and personal identity.

Most of us have dreams, and most of us lament what we've let ourselves become. Our limitations torment us and we become world-weary and corrupted with time - yet our dreams persist, our ideals continue to shape who we are.
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>>84535388
>Meanwhile back in the aboriginal reservation they are still suffering from alcoholism, domestic abuse and rape, the woke left doesn't actually give a shit about these people
>They are a living extension of their masters, accepting of being in the little world created for them to inhabit where they perform menial tasks and look colorful and animated like a cartoon character.
And that's a good thing
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>>84535392
So what can u make chud? Have you wrote a story before , art piece , comic what have u created instead of using others works to justify your ideas.
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You shouldn't contribute anything beautiful to this world if you are a white man. You should go out of your way to make everyone's life miserable. I'm serious about this. Use your talent to fuck things up for everyone else. Stop trying to contribute to this world.
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>>84535573
So u make art of abos being pulverized? Idk what u mean by this
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>>84535551
I loved that art piece I could feel solemnity of solitude. The lone rectangle standing alone and only other visible presence being his shadow. Then you have dark room representing danger beyond and toils that lie ahead but with window showing a clear blue sky indicating that hope lies in end. Just through a few basic shapes artist was able to represent isolation feels like anon.
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>>84535551
This kind of abstract introspection does not interest me as much as an interesting landscape or something.
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>>84535572
The only creative thing I have done in recent years is pressed some flowers. Still better than 90% of modern art.
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>>84535043
Pretending that Sean Layh is realism and "competes" with photography is fucking absurd on it's own
Realism? You can literally see his strokes. That's like looking at Sargent's work and calling it realism because it's representational

Insane
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>>84535612
Now THIS is what I would call art.
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>>84535606
Okay why can't u create anything? Are you incapable of bringing fourth any new ideas or do you just mindless consume content?
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>>84534592
this is a 2016 discussion that dosent matter for shit anyway,the actual art world controversy going on right now is that nato liberals are fighting with continental eu liberals over the venice biennale and the russians.
A much bigger crime if such a institution was to fall.
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>>84535621
I am not an artist, my skills lie in organizing and motivating groups of people (management).
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>>84535643
So ur a useless parasite
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>>84535643
you should use your skill to do some right wing organizing for once for all the hecking rise of zoomer chuddism there are no actual nationalist organizations anywhere in politics.
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>>84534592
>WHY DOES THE IDEOLOGY BASED ON TEARING PROSPERITY IN SERVICE OF GIVING IT TO THE LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR WORSHIP UGLINESS
GEE I DON'T FUCKING KNOW LOL
>>84535043
YEA MAN "SHITTY DRAWING OF AN OLD BROWN WOMAN WITH NO BACKGROUND" IS REALLY INTROSPECTIVE
I THINK I GET MORE EMOTIONAL LOOKING AT DORSE RAPE ARTWORK ON /D/
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>>84535669
>dbz spic
Why is this place full of mexicans?
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>>84535646
Not at all, the work is essential and when I am not around everyone suffers.

>>84535664
IRL I did work in the conservation sector, that was my contribution to society.
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>>84535703
in short you dont participate in political life but still feel like bitching about libtards that do.
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>>84535715
I do not participate in political life, but I do sympathize more with the right than the left. I do genuinely hate the woke, modern art, and all that bullshit.
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>>84535715
activists are hateful scum yes. and people like us make better art when we do, see >>84535477
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>>84535703
>shalom my fellow goy.. i mean guys
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>>84535727
politics dont reward morals but action its why liberals will always win out,your victory isint a given you have to work for it not just "when we do".
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>>84535751
Liberals are losing across the board right now. Your arrogance will be your downfall.
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>>84535758
to other liberals lol
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>>84535762
I guess if you think Reform UK or the GOP are liberals.
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>>84534832
It's Corporate Memphis. I feel like a website wants me to log in with my Google account when I look at it.
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>>84534641
That WAS the plan. Politics is jester garbage for geriatrics who can't get gud at the game of life and need to be hand held through every little decision by daddy government. Old people who can't even pass tutorial mode. We thought we could just keep to ourselves and stay with our hobbies, but instead we learned that if left alone, politics and leftism will infect absolutely everything like the disease it is.
Leftists activated a fifth column for conservatives when they insisted that nothing can exist unless it is woke to death and helps brown single moms first.
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>>84534592
beauty and liberalism are fundamentally incompatible because, for something to be good, something else must be evil. this, in turn, enforces natural hierarchy into the world, which is antithetical to a pure society wherein all people should be wholly equal.
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>>84535964
this, i even voted for obama before leftists started involving themselves in the games
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>>84534641
>go back to ur video games and porn
You ruined those too
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>>84534592
Maybe they don't think it is ugly. Maybe they look at this art and think "that looks good"
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>>84534750
>other is genuinely unique art piece of old grandma that makes you feel warm looking at it
Then it's missing the point. That "grandma" is a traditional abo artist who became well renowned in the Australian art world for making chaotic drawings of eagles hunting and fighting, all in black ink and white paint instead of the typical brightly colored stuff they make.
The winning artwork clearly did not do a good job of conveying this if you just saw some grandma painting that makes you feel warm.
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>>84535698
WHITER THAN YOU, SCHLOMO
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>>84535163
I don't think it has to do with race but with culture. We live in a culture that loathes excellence and effort and beauty. Much like education is destroyed to make it so niggers who can't add 2 + 2 are allowed to get through because otherwise "it's racist", modern culture states that traditional beauty is "too european"
It happens because other cultures are way below ours and they're extremely envious
>>84535349
Political memes aren't art. Basedjaks are like that in order to purposefully portray the opposing party as an emotional manchild. That's the fucking joke
Considering how the left still uses rage comics which are basedjaks' predecessors this is a massive pot calling the kettle black moment
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>>84535558
it is really not high IQ

let ugliness win and the world will be ugly

destroy ugliness and elevate beauty and it will be beautiful

sure it takes work, but humans have an enormous amount of influence over their environment, it is amazing how much your inner thoughts and values spill out into the real world, how appearances actually do reflect what is on the inside 95% of the time
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>>84534592
>landscapes and realism
Wow so innovative. I could just go outside for that. Why is conservative art so boring and tepid?
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>>84535558
unfortunately we are stuck in that same little world, though we can begin chipping out little pieces for ourselves with painstaking effort, if we all do so their regime would collapse pretty quickly and things would go back to normal (1950s tier society except with AI and high tech), but we'd need a significant proportion of the population with a decent level of determination and degeneracy is difficult to shake
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>>84535612
>You can literally see his strokes
Yeah, like all art lmao
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>>84536634
Thankfully AI art doesn't have those ugly strokes.
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>>84536609
It's not realism and it's not conservative.
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>>84534840
>meanwhile they've been living in a world shaped by its ideas and images since 2014.
sorry what is the picture in >>84534832
trying to say? if someone just painted a picture thats fine but wheres your muh statement there?
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>>84534718
that's fine, however, the Winner of this Prize is some abo slag who does middle school art class tier "realistic" albeit badly done portraits of the gorilla niggers it associates with. so in addition to being technically poor it is also conceptually worthless, unless you worship niggers
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>>84534741
The truthometer is going off look at the seethe it generated
>>84534829
>>84535386
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>>84537359
the winner who did the portrait was some white dude named Richard Lewer lmao
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>>84536428
If you updated it today, everything in that picture now is even fucking worse lol.

>>84536457
The caricatures aren't even proportional to a human face, this is clearly deliberately ugly, and you can obviously tell this is a comedy animation and not something striving to be art
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>>84537485
that's fine, i just assumed all of what i said from the thumbnail in the op and didn't read anything at all. doesn't change much except that now there's a glimmer of hope that he's simply scamming the nigger-worshippers to get fame and acclaim despite being a shit artist
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>>84534975
>Anna Uddenburg
More like Anal Udderbuns
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>>84534840
>equating memes with liberal slop
lmao
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>>84534840
i agree. im very deep into making music and its tough dealing with all these crazy leftists everywhere. very few chuds out here but we are out here.
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>>84537967
there is a lot of trannies in music
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>>84537549
Itsok I just assume everyone here is a retard
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>>84538397
why are you here then? this site isnt for you
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>>84536511
A lot of what art "is" is tied up in exhibition value. If an object embodies meaning, and it's presented within a certain social "context", then it counts as art.

Which brings up a good question: why should what art "is" be dictated by the artworld? Why should it begin and end with exhibition value? That's when you have to start asking questions about art's function within an age of mechanical reproduction, and that's where the internet and its role in contemporary art become interesting (to me at least).

If graffiti counts as art, then memes for sure count as art as well. If art is used by people to convey ideas and reshape the inner-life of onlookers, why can't retarded wojak comics be legitimate artworks? They're the cultural currency of our modern digital ecosystems.

>>84537308
As I've explained previously in the thread, the main appeal of stuff like this is its subject - paint a black person in a shonky way, and you're challenging several dominant cultural narratives all at once: what stuff gets represented, how stuff gets represented, and the mechanisms which legitimize certain kinds of expression.

I don't really have a problem with people who find the abo boring, I mostly have a problem with people who intuitively regard certain works as valuable or "more legitimate" simply because they take more mechanical skill to create.

Sometimes if you really wanna say something you gotta knock the Yngwie Malmsteen shit off, play four chords and screech into a shitty microphone y'know?

>>84537359
Don't disagree, but my main point is that even if the abo was painted in the style of the second place winner nobody here would suddenly love it. There's something deeper at work, something beyond mere technical ability which legitimates certain works and invalidates others.
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>>84534592
>>84535386
I've seen this exact same boomer with the same obsession with eating feces come into threads to bitch about republicans before, and it's apparent because he has his own phrase for them that virtually nobody else uses. It's like lee with cheese or mlp, just make a thread that only mentions the word left or liberal and you'll see this thing crawl in with some old facebook shit. Probably doesn't help that this board isn't as active as it once was, so you notice these things easier.
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>>84534592
>modern slop art
Its good that Ai is here to purge it all, only real talent will survive.
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>>84539070
>if the abo was painted in the style of the second place winner nobody here would suddenly love it
That is true, but I would be less annoyed by it winning some kind of art prize if I thought it was well done. More interesting is how it just so happens that the middle school art style and distasteful subject matter came together. Interesting coincidence. Also, if the subject matter of the second place guy was painted in first place style, the highest acclaim it would achieve is a couple "not bad but keep practicing" comments on deviantart
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>>84539147
The funniest part about AI art is how it stunlocks the "everything can be art!" crowd for some retarded reason. Watching them seethe is endlessly amusing.
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>>84535612
Technically sargent was a realist though I must say the best sargents were when he departed from it. Not like your pic thoughever. This pic is one that's presented to us in a way that is more consistent to a photo or at least a world model that is closer to how we construct ours. And technically iffy in places too, though that may be from using what appears to be pastel. Sargent was keen when to withhold detail and the result is a dreamy fugue'd up :DD world where the subject and landscape tug and pull to become each other and in that sense the abbo painting is ironically closer to sargent in spirit. One look at the attention he gives his drapery tells you that he's still too attached to his atelier training ways whereas sargent would sometimes render cloth with 2 or 3 bristly strokes; It may come off as a being a poor man's sargent, and being a poor man's version of anyone isn't exactly a winning epithet.
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>>84539167
Sure, the fact that the crude abo winning the award says a lot about institutions, but the fact that most people here would prefer a crude landscape over a photorealistic, hyper-technical painting of an aboriginal woman says a lot about them too. It also says something about the means by which certain artworks earn validation in the eyes of onlookers.

If the abo was well painted, the fact it won would still be viewed as performative, and its accolades would still feel unearned. Not because of how well it was or wasn't painted, but because of what it's depicting.
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I like this one. It's crude, but that only makes it more distressing.
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>>84534869
cute and funnies aside, this is superb
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>>84539285
verye cooI
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>>84539234
Wouldn't he be more impressionist than realist?
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>>84539234
the only reason you compare him to Sargent was because I mentioned him
Then you compared him in ways that Layh wasn't even aiming to do
You can't even recognize the movements and artists that influence Layh's work jfc
Please, PLEASE never try to critique art ever again



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