Is it even worth it to be a good person when society treats you like shit and nobody cares about you?
You have to do it for yourself. For the sheer refusal to be just another selfish nigger on this selfish nigger planet.
>>84535359Do you believe in God?if yes, then it's worth itif no, then it's not worth it>inb4 "so your morality is based on God existing???"yes
Idk I get treated like shit and I try to be good cause I have a conscience
>>84535359Yeah obviously. You're treated like shit because you're a terrible person, that's just an objective statement. And being good is always good, independent of how others reward you. It's impossible to explain morality to a narcissist like you, so just find a hobby or something.
>>84535399ah yes the "kiwifarms only target people who deserve it" argument
>>84535359Of course not. You should only ever be good to yourself and the closest entities you love.Treat others exactly like they will treat you. In the west only decent looking or well dressed white or asian people deserves the benefit of the doubt and being friendly as part of a social construct in a civilized society. Drugged out criminal trailer trash has to be treated like trash, the animals they are. This applies to every race. They're great Asians and then there are subhuman Asians. And so on. The lower down the list of skin colors the more different the proprotion between sane civilized humans and retarded animals.
>>84535408Yes. Also if you think the word society means kiwifarms then you're an ever more terrible person than I initially assumed.
>>84535425no? think about it for a secondam I equating kiwifarms to society?or am I equating kiwifarms to psychopathic bullies like you?
>>84535359either way being a bad person feels so good i dont think id be able to stop even if i wanted to. nobody really cares what you do and when they do it's virtue signaling.
>>84535359Always expect everybody else to be completely, stunningly full of shit and even malice. Esp. females and troons. Notoriously full of shit.
>>84535399I guess I was a pretty bad kid when my parents trat my like. I guess everyone I treated like shit in the past also deserved it, regardless if they were innocent or not.
>>84535436This isn't about me, we were talking about the narcissist in the OP. You can start a thread about me, if you'd like.
>>84535453*my parents treated me like shitWhoops.
>>84535453>kid when my parents trat my likeBet!>everyone I treated like shit in the past also deserved itYou're one person, most likely forgotten by those people. Nobody said anything about "deserved", you spoiled rotten cunt. If everyone including sweet grannies and the pope are treating you like shit, you're just shit that's how the word is defined. you don't get to define your social standing independent of how society places you.
>>84535464>my mommy issues whoopsSurround yourself with good people, and be a good person. The rest is cope.
>>84535359>You have to do it for yourselfThat only really happens if you feel some kind of guilt when doing bad things. I care less and less about others as time goes on and that worries me a bit, I'm afraid of becoming even worse.
>>84535488Meant to. Whoops again.>>84535373
yes treat everyone with a baseline of kindness but do not allow others to walk over you or treat you badly. do not go out of your way to be too standoffish
>>84535478>Nobody said anything about "deserved",You said this: if someone treats you bad then that means you were also bad, therefore, the treatment is justified and deserved and this is an objetive statement according to you.>You're one person, most likely forgotten by those peopleBeing forgotten or not(which is something you can't even be sure about since I didn't give you any context) is completely irrelevant to this topic.>If everyone including sweet grannies and the pope are treating you like shit, you're just shit that's how the word is definedNot necessarily true. Certain groups of society, such as women or people of color, were treated unfairly by everyone in the past and it was viewed as normal, does that mean they were right? Not even the popes were all good people.>Bet!Nice troll post but it still helps me to put into theory some of my beliefs so you weren't all that bad.This circular logic is full of holes and not worth engaging any further.
>>84535543>if someonenope.>completely irrelevant to this topicthen why are you talking about it?>Certain groups of societyInside of their own groups, families, and communities they were treated normally, because it's completely normal to be black in a black family. You are peak fucking retard. >the word "bet!" is called "circular logic" for reasons unknownGrow up, and stop being a piece of shit. It's really that simple.
>>84535488That should worry you. You could become one of those worthless boomers whose entire existence revolves around their property investments. The thought should upset you on a spiritual level.
>>84535562I don't really plan to live long enough to turn into an angry old man.
>>84535562>That should worry younta, but nobody should worry, lmao.>You could become one of those worthless boomers whose entire existence revolves around their property investments.it doesn't matter what you like or think, the only thing that matters is how the world is. The world revolves around money and clever investments. And so is the only smart way to live with a high degree of freedom.>The thought should upset you on a spiritual level.maybe you should stop spouting retarded bullshit. just an idea.
>>84535575the world revolves around whether or not you live in New York. no amount of money matters if you are in some shitty place like California or Europe.
idk im just a chill guy
It is if you are a good person. At the end you can be happy that you were a man.
>>84535575>maybe you should stop spouting retarded bullshitThe NPC cries out in pain at the mention of the human spirit
>>84535589If you built some kind of strong conviction over the years then yeah, I can get it.
>>84535359The bible pretty much tells you that you are in for a rough ride if you decide to be the moral one. You will be deceived, lied to and betrayed at every step.It's honestly weird how that became the largest religion in the first place, the book is crystal clear that doing the complete opposite grants you an easier life.
>>84535584thank you for your invaluable contribution to the discussion, Donald J.>>84535603the made up things are not the issue. It's the made up need to disadvantage yourself, because of made up bullshit, turned into propaganda that is the problem. Stay in your own lane, in other words, faggot.
>>84535645It makes sense in the bible because the reward is infinitely good while the punishment is infinitely horrible suffering.
Yes. Cultivating resilience makes it easier to live - you're kinder on yourself, and you've got a higher tolerance for arbitrary bullshit (which life will throw at you nonstop). That being said, you still need to assert yourself in some measure. You need to strike a balance between permissiveness and hostility, too much of either one and you're only making life harder for yourself.
>>84535693A great example of how its simply not possible to be intelligent without a soul. Without self awareness he cannot effectively metacognate. Leading to such insecure and delusional takes as displayed here.
>>84535734do better than ad hom next time, sugartits.
>>84535722>You need to strike a balance between permissiveness and hostility, too much of either one and you're only making life harder for yourself.Do you mean asserting hostility through physical force? What happens if I am too weak?
>>84535782There are ways of standing up yourself besides using physical violence.
>>84535784I'm pretty small and weak myself so I have a hard time doing it. Bah, this is an excuse, I know what you mean, my problem is actually another thing>Yes. Cultivating resilience makes it easier to live - you're kinder on yourself, and you've got a higher tolerance for arbitrary bullshit (which life will throw at you nonstop). You were right with this but one's tolerance level is not infinite and you can only take enough bullshit before you start breaking down. I feel like I wasn't given the chance to start a good life with all the shitty people I have to share a roof with. The thirld world shithole I live on doesn't really help either, my country and town just suck ass: mental health is a joke, school and teachers were mostly shit, poverty is everywhere and everyone is terrible due to all this, I can't really blame them if that's the case I guess, since they were also stuck with the same shitty circumstances as me.
>Nobody cares about youApart from work, my family, my friends, and my gf, literally no one cares about me
>>84535359Don't be good to everyone, choose good people to be good to
If you are a white man, stop being so nice and courteous in public. It pisses me off. This society shits on you while exalting niggers. Start being rude as fuck to everyone, especially services workers. Im telling you, it's therapeutic.
>>84535904>choose good people to be good tothis is the hardest part, anonsome of the kindest souls I've met use "evil" as a shield against the world
>>84535359>>84535373You know you can be kind and not be a doormat, right? People will interpret boundaries as asshole behaviour but you're just going to have to let them perceive you that way or your kindness will be constantly abused. Too many people are like OP where they think because people made their life worse that they have to go out out of their way to make life worse for other people as well. Life is basically having to constantly deal with people making their bad life experiences your problem.
>>84535890>Apart from work, my family, my friends, and my gfkek. who's gonna tell him?>>84535910these are not the same things. being friendly as part of a social contract between strangers to keep the good facade of the society at large is not being good as a person at any depth and towards everybody. Being evil requires power and resources.Being good is usually passive. If I had unlimited resources I'd create so much problems for so many assholes in this world.>>84535928>use "evil" as a shield against the worldno other way to survive.
>>84535413>In the west only decent looking or well dressed white or asian people deserves the benefit of the doubt and being friendly as part of a social construct in a civilized society.The only asians white supremacists tolerate are Koreans/Japanese and they mostly only like them because they want to fuck their women. This ladder-kicking shit is embarrassing for everyone else.
>>84535946>You know you can be kind and not be a doormat, right?I know, that isn't really my problem.
>>84535413Fuck you in particular I didn't ask to be born half-black and I don't bother anyone or commit crime.
>>84535979my point isn't so much racist as is it classist. You didn't even read my post completely.
You don't take the chance to dunk on service workers enough. These are the people that define the culture. The shitty nigger music? The nigger speak? The nigger dress? The nigger ball? None of it would exist without the service worker. You should treat them like dog shit. Make their life miserable.
>>84535956>Being evil requires power and resources.Bruh... you can't be serious. Being evil is easy as fuck, you can do bad things in so many ways. You don't need to be so powerful and so smart to do vile shit like grooming or online scams.
You also shouldnt contribute to economic growth if you are a white man because the future doesn't even belong to your prodigy. There are plenty of ways to make money by being parasitic. You will feel much better about working when you know it's contributing to the destruction of Niggermerica
>>84536005Shalom. Bad people only ever get away with bad things because they have powerful masters and because the resources are limited.>not a big dealsays the police refusing to do a proper search around the house>we see no tracessaid the experts who won't bother to look for fingerprints, skin, dna, any genetic material in general, whatsoever.>we don't have time and people to solve the mystery of the stranger taking a shit on your porch said the justice systemdespite us paying taxes exactly so that the shit taking motherfucker will be castrated and then publicly executed in the most torturous way imaginable. But, it doesn't fit the narrative of the civilized society (somehow) and the politicians (who are paid for puppets) are against it.Believe you me, if I had infinite money and time to buy politicians off, judges, keep teams of lawyers, pi's, etc on my personal payroll too, I'd fucking turn the crime stats around in under 5 years. they'd first skyrocket and then the neigborhood will be clean. walled off with automated weaponry on the perimeter walls.
>>84535359The state is evil by natureThe state calls its evil as goodIt feels certain to me that whatever deeds you do to defy the state are not evil.I know this to be true, so I suppose it's a minor miracle that I still feel torn between good and evil. I'm feeling the call of evil strongly. The only thing left holding me back is what the few people I admire would think of me as an evildoer. Those people scarcely know I exist. A therapist worth his salt would beg me to turn my life around around before I do something stupid. I could devote maybe an hour of my day to constructive and prosocial shit that is good, but the rest of my waking time is spent ruminating on things like>when society treats you like shit and nobody cares about youBuilding the remainder of my probably short life around undermining and defying society seems like the more important calling.
>>84535359i'm not perfect, but i strive to be good. if that means i suffer, than so be it. i will not compromise my values to fit into a sick and evil world
>>84535359Realistically the people who can be close to your are <10, and you can name them without a problem. If you go out of your way to help them, good, for the rest - path of least resistance. See someone stranger with blow out tyre on the way? I have spare tyre, compressor and tyre repair kit in case puncture 2 or more tyres but will I stop to help some stranger - fuck no. There is no point in helping strangers even if it not a big deal, don't do anything extra for people who are not close to you unless your are paid. That being said there is no point in shitting in the floor in mcdonalds because some people do this "to spite the wagies", this is also "extra work". Just do the bare minimum and stay out of trouble. If the question is for example, you can work some shitty job and make x amount of money, or be on benefits and make x*0.9 amount of money, realistically there is not point in working unless you get higher standard of living, working with the higher ideal to be productive to society is retarded. If shit goes down eventually you fucked regardless, so there is no point.
>>84535359>society treats you like shit and nobody cares about youThis just changes what it means to be "good". Good means looking out for the little guy while refusing to contribute to wider society in any meaningful way.
>>84535359No, normalfags will accept child rapist, abusers, drug addict, convict, mass murderers and have zero morality themselves yet expect low value males to be LE KIND for whatever reason, then leverage any bad thing that happens to them as being deserved because well you just weren't LE KIND enough. Well why weren't you KIND to that retard gorilla nigger trash monkey floyd?? HE WAS A HECKIN VICTIM EVENDOE HE ROBBED A PREGNANT WOMAN AT GUNPOINT!! YOU HECKJIN RACIST INCELERINO, WHY ARE YOU SO LE MEAN? Morality doesn't exist anyway, pure illusion and construct. The majority of people do far worse than DUH INCELS. I think relly, that just tells me we should be worse. They're lucky we aren't.
>>84535359And your solution is to lower yourself to their level?
>Good person. >Frogposter.
