It's amazing that people act like MEN are the shallow gender, when women make it so clear that they are far more shallow. Not even the least desirable women are willing to settle for undesirable men, while many undesirable men would be more than happy to have romance with unattractive women if any would fucking accept us. But women don't even like real love and romance anyway, and just want the most heartless and empty sort of transactional relationship anyway (and want the sort of transactional relationship where they don't need to be reciprocal, too, and instead are always getting the better of it)It's really fucked up that no females will settle for incels, and we are absolutely right to be mad as hell about it Females don't know what real loneliness is like at all because they always have someone who would accept them, even if they think that someone is a disgusting monster or something
>>84536743I tried even with incels off this board, but got rejected every time
>>84536763And are you a real woman, rather than a man larping for some sort of fetish, or as some attempt to hurt unattractive men by seducing them and then throwing them away?Plenty of incels would accept unattractive women, but you don't want those types of incels
>>84536763no, you did not, and you are a faggot
>>84536743>they think that someone is a disgusting monster or somethingoh, anon, they get wet as fuck whenever they think about a disgusting monster, alright.You were very close to understanding this time. They want everything to be given to them, no questions asked, and no average human being will ever do that. A fantasy monster just might.
>>84536791I am a woman, and every single time, they lost interest when they saw my face. It's happened more than 30 times now
>>84536795The "fantasy monsters" are different. THOSE are something they see as being BETTER than regular humans. Whereas us incels, they see us as the sort of monster that is subhuman insteadThey want "better than human", not worse than human
>>84536743>guys, isn't it SOOOO amazing that males are willing to literally settle for bottom of the barrel women with the worst personalities, low IQ, ugly appearance, lack of experience in anything and dependence on you just because they want to use you as a sex toy and fuck you? isn't it great that the only reason males are attracted to you is because they desire to use you as a fucktoy? no. you are not attracted to women for any reason more than this. stop pretending you are "romantic". the only thing males are attracted to is base sexual desires.
>>84536812I don't care about face or appearance at all. I just want someone who isn't a fucking Nazi or abuser or some bullshit like that - the absolute bare minimum, which I easily achieve myselfYou say you've talked to a lot of guys on here, you are probably one of those foids who claims to be femcel but then ghosts men quickly or throws them away if they don't make the dumb high level of effort that you demand. Or you only want tall strong masculine dominant white christian nazi rich chads or something
>>84536830It's funny how sex positivity only applies to women, while if men care about sex at all, it's horrible and evil. Just shows how modern women don't give a shit about equality now and just want to demonize menAt any rate, I don't give a shit about sex, I want actual romance. But females who say this shit will in the next moment only want the chads who actually do see them as just a hole to fuck, because it's better to be with abusechads who don't care about you, than nice guys who would care
>>84536843sex positivity is gross both ways lmfao. anyway you're detracting from the point made about how males don't actually care about love they just care about sex, which ISN'T love. just because you're interested in "romance" doesn't mean the incels complaining about LACK OF SEX means love which it doesn't. you are not more "morally superior" because you frame your misogynistic desires as "love". and funny how you then alter the discussion to be about a hypothetical of what i choose to do with my time and who i choose to date instead of what males literally do right now where they purposely frame their own desires as good and women as bad when actually the only reason they're complaining about romance is because they know that if they complained "omg guys i'm so lonely because i can't get my dick wet" it would sound worse and less people would agree with them about that being a problem
>>84536869Men are the only ones who care about love.
>>84536922and as i have explained, no they are not. what males care about is gaining status, power, resources and fame so they can abuse and degrade people that they see as objects once they're in a position of power. the reason why there's a mass of ignored males crashing out about "love" is because they realize they're not the ones abusing and hurting people. whereas women actively pay attention to things like personality in love, why women divorce so often (because MONEY isn't the only factor making someone stay together with another person), why women put an onus on improving communication and building trust (which males think is stupid and childish to even put effort into doing), and why women try to protect younger women from being groomed by males that see women as nothing but sex objects. you know what the height of peak male "romance" is? the book lolita.
>>84536869Sounds like you just automatically assume that all male desires for anything are misogynistic. Not even the radfem theorists like Andrea Dworkin thought things like that, they acknowledge that men can support actual love with equality and liberation. >>84536940>what males care about is gaining status, power, resources and fame so they can abuse and degrade people that they see as objects once they're in a position of powerThat's what chads want. A lot of us incels are leftists who just want nice egalitarian romance instead. But women go for the chads who want the sexist stuff. Maybe women should lower their standards and give incels a chance - if they care about equality. But so many of you just want to be mad and then be dominated by chads instead
>>84536961"that's what chad wants" is that why males from all political spectrums end up being domestically abusive, mansplaining, demeaning and authoritative once they actually end up with someone? it is NOT just chad. ALL males are like this. porn-rotted leftists AND wife-beating rightoids BOTH hate women, and it's literally just because for some reason males can't get past this point of knowing that women are the one group they have control over no matter what so they want to retain it. PLEASE stop pretending that you're any better or would be different, especially when you're already generalizing women and explaining to me what i go through instead of being empathetic and thinking that means you deserve a chance just because you're supposedly "egalitarian and leftist"
>>84536987you will never be a woman, troonigger.
>>84536987We don't hate you enough yet
>>84537041ummm, "enough yet"??? you already do, you already have, and you already will. males literally have NEVER loved women, EVER
>>84536987Many incels want true equality but you just don't. You complain but you'd hate a world with true equality and liberation. That's why you act like it's impossible despite so many men wanting it. You just want to be mad. You hate equality so much. You don't want men to support equality, you want superiority.
>>84537073frankly i dont give a fuck abt "equality" or "liberation" the only definition that i am going to use in terms of what i want from relationship dynamics is for males to no longer: domestically abuse their wives, use their status as a male to win favor in society, use their status and influence to hurt vulnerable groups (this is unique to males because they desire hurting innocent beings much more than women do), not use manipulation of people and events to change people and things into either ruining their lives (like the metamorphosis manga, which is akin to going out to other countries to marry some asian woman just so they can abuse them instead), to actually be accepting of women and their interests without framing it like (male good and women bad look at how stupid she is for doing this and how smart i am for doing this), to listen to women when they say they want abortions or need help with motherhood, and to actually be interested in helping women when they have a desire to achieve academically or in the workplace for areas that matter (without demeaning it because ewww a woman girlbossing for a career in this day and age?)
>>84537096>use their status as a male to win favor in societymales are useful. esp the very intelligent and competent males. females are useless.>actually be interested in helping women no. fuck other people. don't give a shit. kek.didn't read. debooonked two fundamentally wrong things.nta btw.
>>84537111>fuck other peoplethen you're obviously not the target audience are you? I AM TALKING ABOUT INCELS COMPLAINING ABOUT ROMANCE BUT THEN PUTTING NO EFFORT INTO WHAT ACTUALLY MAKES UP ROMANCE. also what does >useful/uselesshave to do with a discussion about males literally not being capable of love? yeah i guess males are so useful at being worker drones that go into factories and build the same products over and over again and go out onto war fields and die for ideologies they don't understand because they've been brainwashed to kill themselves for a cause by males more intelligent than them that use them just to create harems for themselves. and as for women being useless, i guess that's why in the 70 years of having "equal rights" to males, they're outpacing them in education AND getting into work? >b-but males created everything!!!! wow, it's almost like 10 random male geniuses that gave us the foundation to society AREN'T you
>>84536743By uglu she means literally any nonChad not just the truecels. Foids are genuinely defective female animals at this point.
>>84537096>and to actually be interested in helping women when they have a desire to achieve academically or in the workplace for areas that matterwhy would any man do that if you're supposedly capable of achieving that on your own?no woman is ever going to help a man out with anything
>>84537153because you care about her and want to help her? just exactly like she would for you???? how many of the incels here were raised by a single dad? case in point, fucking none because males don't give a shit about staying with their mistakes
>>84537167Shut up subhuman we know Chad flexing fries your brain and makes you accept anything from him.
>>84536869Typical "femcel". Every one of her posts is just assertion on assertion on assertion of what she "feels" like is the truth. There's no reason applied whatsoever. No evidence behind what she says.
>>84537172no it doesn't lmfao if you knew me you would know this is definitively not the case
>>84537132>then you're obviously not the target audience are you?I am the Chad. I choose and gatekeep the resources. I'm not even thinking about getting into a relationship with a female. but you will cope that there are no reasons for it. kek.>blah-blah lovedefine love.>yeah i guess males are so usefulsee you're not completely braindead yet, but you're close.>they're outpacing them in educationbest joke I've read today. Yeah, so hard to get through a system designed for women to go through. lol. lmao even.> AND getting into work?all those big girls jobs of being absolutely incompetent and useless even in the office settings or ruining countries with braindead political views, while men with tools do all the work everywhere anyways.>wow, it's almost like 10 random male geniuses that gave us the foundation to society AREN'T youit doesn't matter, because keeping shit up as it is, alone, by itself, without even moving the world forward in any capacity, keeps hundreds of millions of men busy every fucking day. And I suggest to never go full retard, anon.
>>84537178hold up let me just webcrawl incels dot is with AI to scrape all data items with relevant titles and posts to prove my point, because there REALLY REALLY has to be scientific studies done on males complaining about "lack of love" in the modern day
>>84537167i do not care about women nor do i care about helping them.do women care about me and do they care about helping me?
>>84537179>NO BOYIM I AM NOT A SLAVE TO CHAD!Mentalcels on discords confirm incel mindset with cute face is totally ok
>>84537187>i am the chad, etc. okay? don't get in a relationship then.>define lovein this case, something that isn't revolving around incels complaining about their lack of sex and then framing it as a moral wrong done against them by women and saying that it's because women aren't capable of love, when in actuality, it's just males complaining women aren't forced to have sex with them if they don't want to anymore>a system designed for womenactually, NO, the education system wasn't. it was designed to create people to go into work based on standarized tests that can be used for testing intelligence. i guess males just aren't intelligent then if they can't even pass standarized tests and have to get new ones passed into law because the new generations of males are just so incompetent that they can't even compete anymore? these tests were LITERALLY designed when women had no rights too... lmfao>big girl jobs actually, women make up the majority of roles in healthcare, education and childcare. not to generalize about roles here either, even though there is a statistical difference between what males and women choose career-wise, but if women didn't work either society would literally collapse. it is not as simple as "lmao women just sit behind a computer doing nothing all day">keeps men busy every day which is sad. all of this advancement for what?? and wht do you mean by full retard... how do u know what im planning??
>>84537191Let's look at it this way. Which option do you think incels would choose?>sex any time, but you will never be in a relationship ever again>wife who loves you and will stay with you forever, but you will never have sex againYou assert that men only care about sex and do NOT care about love, which would imply incels would overwhelmingly choose the first option. But even asking this thread I would guess people would choose the latter, maybe slightly more than 50%. Of course it wouldn't mean much considering I'm trying to make a point out of it but you seem so certain about your assertions when you neither have evidence behind them nor are they intuitive.
>>84537245incels would undoubtly choose the first option, no ifs and buts, because they do not care about a wife or an asexual woman. "nor are they intuitive" yes, because you are not a woman, so you have not faced discrimination, harassment or abuse at the hands of males that think you are lesser than them, or been at the forefront of the psychology of a male when he is attracted to you.
>>84537219>in this case, something that isn't revolving around incels complaining about their lack of sex and then framing it as a moral wrong done against them by women and saying that it's because women aren't capable of love, when in actuality, it's just males complaining women aren't forced to have sex with them if they don't want to anymoreI don't know what this is, whatever the fuck this is, it is not the definition of love.>actually, NO, the education system wasn't.>tests were LITERALLY designed when women had no rights too... lmfaoeverything is designed to brainwash the weak and to make femoids graduate. the system isn't a single test, it's the subjectivity, the rule bending, the cheating, and everything else that gives a young female a free way into the enslavement with debt and wage, I mean college, of course. You took on bad debt to become an expert on the Bactrian Camels in the U.S. Who is a smart girl?>roles in healthcarefinancial pyramid. do nothing, collect money all day, every day.>education and childcarenot my hecking female biological function! getting paid? not for le care for toddlerinos!!!a fucking joke. not even a funny one.>if women didn't work either society would literally collapsewe know that it doesn't, wouldn't, hasn't, and won't. Afghanistan is fine. The greedy ass blackrock banker or some businessfag might lose money, but the system won't fail. You've been brainwashed and bamboozled by the very system you went through, that was designed to do so. And now you're citing "muh brainwashing, I mean education" stats. Ha! Ha. Ha...
>>84536743kek I love that subreddit, the tears of ugly foids getting upset not because they're alone, but because Chad doesn't want them.
>>84537283>standarized tests are "subjective, rule bending and cheating" what???>healthcare, where you are expected to work long hours because no one wants to go into the field and you can expect to work from 6am until 7-8pm is doing nothingjust say you're not interested in the field and know nothing about it >education and childcare don't matterthese are quite literally the pillars for child development nowadays and you're demeaning the work for what? do you want everyone to just become apes running around???>wouldn't, hasn't, and won'tsome other thread mentioned this but already news headlines are complaining about society failing and somehow you believe that women not working wouldn't impact society?? "afghanistan is fine" afghanistan is a literal shithole with backward-ass apes going around worshipping a literal desert demon and sawing people's heads off
>>84537331>what???you're stupid.>just say you're not interested in the field and know nothing about it right, my bad. You did not mean insurance. You meant being a slave like a nurse. Well, your own stupid fault then. Could have dressed as a nurse chained to a hospital bed and made a million on OF without having to go through the "suffering" of having a wagie cagie job.>these are quite literally the pillars for child development nowadaysexcept we have very few children. and almost all of them are mentally ill and profoundly retarded. all that stats say, that zoomies and gen alpha are barely literate. I wonder who is at fault for fucking things up this badly.>you're demeaning the work for what?what work? brainwashing and repeating what the books say? showing films, travelling, and executing in group female bias? so very hard. "education system" school teachers are incompetent and so they're paid like shit too.>do you want everyone to just become apes running around???that has already happened whether I like it or not. Best I can is to segregate and arm myself. And the literacy stats indicate that unless AI takes over soon, the things will get much worse.>news headlines are complaining about society failing and somehow you believe that women not working wouldn't impact society??yes. society is failing because men have checked out of society. Like I did. There is no point of being on a sinking ship. I'd rather fuck off before midwits even realize something is coming.>"afghanistan is fine" afghanistan is a literal shitholegive it 20-30 years and the U.S. and the Europe will be exactly the same.
>>84537255I don't know, bro. Searching the archive, when this question is asked it is pretty evenly split. You have literally nothing behind your statements but vibes.
>>84537399>youre stupidmore like you are for not even being able to pass a standarized test and somehow surmize that up to being "subjective" when its a formal metric of understanding and memorization>being a slave like a nurse and "coujld have dressed like a nurse and gone on OF to make money" the point was that nursing, healthcare, educationa nd childcare are necessary fields of discipline, not just "male-dominated" ones. OF doesn't actually make that much money, women earn less than $300 a month on it, which is less than on welfare, AND less than a wagie job, AND healthcare actually provides at LEAST $1000 a month. >wonder who is at faultyes, i wonder who is as well, especially with the conservatives that have taken over since 2016.... wow. i guess we can never know since the trend started in the 2010s... ALSO this isn't really related to politics because it's moreso just technology, but also lower taxes being used for the public system and lower wages for teachers played into it>they're incompetent and that's why they're paid like shitlmfao no, it is literally the other way round. government isn't willing to pay more so the only people willing to go into it are people that are willing to work for less because they have no other options, which usually means people who have less training or credentials. thereby, because women's labor isn't being valued, society is quite literally falling to shit. people can't fucking read because women are not being paid enough.>the U.S and Europe will be the samei guess that just means civilization is going to go extinct then, because i doubt people immigrating from Afghanistan and other countries, bringing their cultures here, are going to solve global warming if they are headstrong on returning these countries to what their own was like
>>84537489>the conservatives>2016>the trend started in the 2010s>ALSO this isn't really related to politics>taxes>global warming>just means civilization is going to go extinct then>people can't fucking read because women are not being paid enough.All of this is why you are stupid. Parents must teach their children how to reach. Smarter kids start reading by the time they're 3 years old. They have some skill by 4. They're decently fluent by the time they're 6. School is not there to teach a human to read.
>>84537536not the ad homiens because you don't have an argument anymore
>>84537543argument about child development is not ad-hom. you larp as a female and you don't even know how a baby and then a child develops. I'm a single Chad and I don't even want children, but I do know how children develop, because among o ther things, guess what "genius", I used to be a child too. It's actually funny, that you don't know that a mother, and a father, have to teach their child to read without getting paid for it. It's really funny to me.This dialogue here is the perfect example of why females fail society. And why males can quit and not be bothered.
>>84537568>without getting paid for it the only reason why your parents can read was because of the education system. people, prior to schools, could not read, because their parents had never been to school and "indoctrinated" into learning how to read.
>>84537579this is not true, because learning to read isn't actually that hard. and quite a few people have taught themselves how to read.You attempt at bringing up the past is completely irrelevant, because literacy as a parameter is not set in stone. What was considered a bare minimum literate person 300 years ago is borderline a drooling retard by today's standards. And, also the most important thing is how literacy itself is defined. People who knew Latin used to be considered literate in Europe. Everybody knew their local language and most people could read it, easy peasy, but the standard of literacy was defined by the knowledge of Latin, for example.So the stats aren't reflective.>the only reason why your parents can read was because of the education system.they have started reading before the school system, which is why they made me do it early too.>people, prior to schools, could not readpeople learn to read before they reach the school age.>because their parents had never been to school and "indoctrinated" into learning how to read.don't really need it. reading is not hard. reading very fast, while comprehending, and memorizing, using techniques might be a skill, that is not easy. But some basic level reading is super ez.
>>84537096>frankly i dont give a fuck abt "equality" or "liberation"Well equality and liberation are morally correct and good, it's fucked up to not want them. Without equality and liberation, you are just a conservative who wants to privilege a different group rather than those traditionally privileged. A just and proper society doesn't have privilege or hierarchy at all>the only definition that i am going to use in terms of what i want from relationship dynamics is for males to no longer: domestically abuse their wivesPlenty of us wouldn't be abusive. Also the whole concept of wives and marriage is patriarchal bullshit, it's dumb to want to be a "wife" in the first place, trad shit is trash>use their status as a male to win favor in society, Again plenty of us don't want that> use their status and influence to hurt vulnerable groupsPlenty of us want policies to help rather than hurt the vulnerable groups>not use manipulation of people and events to change people and things into either ruining their livesBut it's called manipulation whenever we support good things, anything we do is called manipulation. Actual manipulation is bad of course>to actually be accepting of women and their interestsPlenty of us are accepting, and we get called unmasculine weird performative losers for it>to listen to women when they say they want abortions or need help with motherhood, and to actually be interested in helping women when they have a desire to achieve academically or in the workplace for areas that matter Plenty of us support all that, and again just get called performative predators or something over it. Plus increasingly feminists are embracing the "reactionary feminism" of people like Mary Harrington et al to act like actually these things are bad things that benefit men rather than women anywaySo there's plenty of men who are compatible with the things you listed here. We just aren't attractive and refuse to make effort to become a Chad
>>84537536I was lucky enough to have a parent who taught me how to read when I was 2, but not everyone is privileged enough to have someone who knows what they are doing and has the free time to do that. Many parents just have to work a lot so the child might only learn via school
"overweight, unkempt, fucked up teeth"Is she being hit on by giant dentures?
>Real femcels don't exist Yeah, it's why everyone, including women, has been saying forever that it is trannies who say they are femcels. Quit posting it over and over.>It's amazing that people act like MEN are the shallow gender, when women make it so clear that they are far more shallowHoly shit, anon. I cannkt read the rest of your post because it's obvious you are chronically online. People IRL say women are the most shallow because they have to be picky when choosing a bf. This is allowed since they can easily lose all of their reproductive years.I didn't read the rest. Just two sentences in and you show why you are made fun of. Enjoy it, retard.
Girl femceldom is different. It's getting played by the same shitty men over and over while being a general useless piece of shit. Even if you had sex you can still be an incel deep down.
>>84536763women don't even need to hop online for this. All you have to do is go to some local meetup about nerdy hobbies and hang around until some decent looking but boring guy meekly hits on you. Too bad just the mere thought of pairing up with a low-ranking male gives you the ick.
>>84536830Don't take her seriously, guy. She's coping.
lol why are you arguing with a 2012-level tumblr teen feminist?
ITT: the "nice guys" show their true colors...again
>>84539474>>84539538OP is right tho
Women will settle for their equivalent, only in recent history did that change. They infiltrated politics and weaponized the legal and tax system against men. Between all the gibs, affirmative action, and general preferential treatment the state supports women by enabling the jewish daycare larp. The government is their husbands and they use the state to rob men at gunpoint, wealth redistribution. They get financial support from men but men get nothing in return.Just look at the sad state of things. The very same year woman's suffrage passed suddenly legislature to skyrocket taxes started passing one after the next. America went from a not terrible tax system to a tax slavery rape farm where White men are the only group to pay more in than they take out over the course of their life.I have become radicalized after sustaining decades of abuse from this system. I no longer believe in equality. Women and minorities should get less, and they should have to pay it all back with interest what they have stolen from us. The traitor that enable, facilitate, and benefitted from the abusive system should be held accountable and face justice. Anyone who hires foreigners should be punished especially harshly. They should be jailed and assets seized. Farmers say immigrants do the job Americans don't want? They can think on that while spending life in prison no possibility of parole. Only principled and ethical people should be feeding the country and running the farms. Americans will work near any job provided the pay is right. Anyone hiring a foreigner whether they are "legal" or "illegal" is stealing from the American people for personal gain, worse yet, they are using American land and soil to do it, and they use extremely harmful destructive practices while they are stealing from Americans and misappropriating land and soil. Tilling/plowing, fertilizers, herbicides, pesticides, fungicides, these have no place whatsoever in agriculture. They are raping the land.
>>84539538If you tip your fedora any harder it's likely to fall off
>>84536830It's amazing actually, you wouldn't even be here if most males had high standards like women. It's just the way nature works.
>>84539538I am genuinely a nice guy and it's fucked up that no females will settle for me because I'm an incel rather than a Chad. I am right to be mad at women and their high standards
>>84539770You can't be mad at women for having higher standards, that's just their nature/natural selection and blah blah. If you make some effort and with some luck you may meet a girl who is into you. What you can be mad about is women being hypocrites little cunts complaing about men having high standards. I have way more respect for women who accept their true nature than those hypocrites bitches
>>84539814>that's just their nature/natural selection and blah blah.This is just social darwinist nonsense and a defense of eugenics. The reality is that men and women are equal. Women are just as capable of being loving and tolerant as men are. The fact that women aren't doing that at the moment, it's not them acting in their inherent nature, it's them actively *choosing* to be a bunch of hateful eugenicist wretches. The fact that they actively choose this despite not needing to do it, it just makes it even worse
>>84539828It's the truth and has been since forever, this is something not even exclusive to humans. Why so mad about it? I really doubt you are as bad as you think, you can still make it. The quicker you accept this truth, the happier you would be.
>>84539770the word 'settle' is like a slur for them. For a woman to accept her looksmatch he has to trick her and make it seem like he's valued by some other women at least. Unlike men, they are not able to accept that their partner is a low quality one.
>>84539856This is just the same old excuse that's been used to support every inequality and dumb aspect of traditionalism. And it's been wrong every timeAnd I absolutely am as bad as I say, and females should accept me anyway >>84539870>Unlike men, they are not able to accept that their partner is a low quality one.Except they are ABLE to accept it, they just choose not to.
>>84539828They get money just for existing, preferential hiring, and infinite safety nets. They don't have to try because they aren't even playing. It's not a glass escalator it's a glass rocket ship. They just get everything for hotpockets. Birth control has nuked their sex drive and made them all crazy, all the antidepressants, antipsychotics, mood stabilizers, and anxiolytics certainly don't help matters. Nearly all women are currently on drugs or have been in the last six months. You probably can't find a woman who's never taken drugs at some point in life. They fucking love taking antibiotics for some reason, even when they don't need them. Their brains are as rotten and tainted as their hearts from all the pills they're constantly popping.
