Getting an older gf as a non-submissive younger guy is surprisingly difficult.I'm well-off, conventionally attractive, and (I hope) interesting to talk to. Plenty of women my age or younger have been interested in me but older women generally show no interest in me.The few women I've met who are interested in younger guys either want a completely submissive bf or a bf who's only sexually dominant. Despite wanting an older gf I still want to be the man in the relationship and for her to be submissive to me.
>>84539776I can't relate. I seem to only attract women significantly older or younger than me.>The few women I've met who are interested in younger guys either want a completely submissive bf or a bf who's only sexually dominant.That part has been my experience as well.
You're trying to date women who have experience with men, they can tell what you're doing dude.
>>84539793>they can tell what you're doing dude.What am I trying to do?
>>84539776>The few women I've met who are interested in younger guys either want a completely submissive bf or a bf who's only sexually dominant>>84539788>That part has been my experience as well.Holy shit, where do I sign up? More accurately, where does one find these kinds of women?
I was with a woman 7 years older than me for many years. Don't do it. Any woman willing to date younger men is fucked up
>>84540030Wdym by fucked up?
>>84540427this is purely based on my own experiences but women with strong bpd traits sometimes pursue younger but more importantly inexperienced guys because theyre more likely to become attached to them and are easier to bully and manipulate
>>84540839I can confirm this. My only gf ever was 5 years older than me and she abused and manipulated the shit out of meWas a real joke too because she was a tiny petite little redhead that looked like she was still 17
>>84540908>she was a tiny petite little redhead that looked like she was still 17How tf did you let someone like that bully you anon?
>>84541079Because I loved her, I fell for her hard. If she wasnt an insane narcissist we would have been perfect for each other. We even met because we were both tf2 addicts back when that game was in its primeBut eventually enough was enough yeah, I made her gtfo of my life before she gaslight me into killing myself
>>84539776>olderwhat does this even mean
>>84541143It means older? OP clearly means women whose ages are greater than his
>>84541140>she gaslight me into killing myselfDetails please. Why was she trying to convince you to kys?
>>84541248She never did that directly but she had this way of twisting reality so she was eternally the victim and she always was finding ways to belittle me. She would tell me things like "you dont know how to treat girls right, you are being abusive towards me, you're terrible for [justified reaction to her manipulative behaviour]" etc. Etc. And she would paint herself as my saviour too, always saying shit like how I'm just inexperienced and I have a poor personality for not groveling at her feet but its okay she was going to fix me, teach me how to be a good little submissive simp. She demanded I be her eternal caretaker and that I tiptoe on glass at all times to avoid setting off her hair trigger to her emotionally unstable misdirected outbursts. It was shit like "BLA BLA MY EX ABUSED ME BLA BLA ALL GUYS ARE TERRIBLE I HAVE SUCH A BAD LIFE IM ALWAYS SICK ALL THE TIME (which was true tbf) but she used this to literally excuse all of her insane behaviour. She demanded I even blindly support her manipulative and scammed antics against other people too. God she was such a bad person.bUt sHe wAs cUtE so my brain tolerated it for far too longPic related is not her but someone who looks exactly like her (minus the shitty piercings)
>>84541323How young and inexperienced were you compared to her?
>>84541370She was my first gf ever. I think I was 25 or 26, she was 29 (thats literally what she looked like at almost 30 yo)
>Getting an older gf is not easyI just wish I could get one as a fuck-buddy.I keep hearing how some of them love to fuck, and are more straightforward when compared to young foids.Despite getting matches with over 50s, they are just as silent, or they are never direct, or they ghost anyway. FFS.If I could get one, I'd plow her for years, however long her fuckability lasts, and be very happy about it. I wouldn't want to deal with woman bullshit.
>>84541323Borderline Personality Disordersame spectrum as Narcissistic Personality Disorder and sociopathy btw. everyone seems to forget that all these can overlap
>>84541458What app are you using? I tried the Pure app but the zoomers on there are too sensitive, like trying to take me to meet their friends after 2 hookups clingy. It'd be embarrassing to be out with a guy 15 years younger than me I wanna keep it between the sheets
>>84541748>15 years younger15 years? How old are you?
>>84542134I'm 37 and into college aged.
>>84541748>What app are you using? Tinder (dead), Bumble (dead), Fakebook Dating (meh).A couple of other apps that are supposedly more DTF (and still shit for getting anything).I was on OkC for 17 years until they randomly banned me. I went back to PoF after moar than a decade away.I get most of my matches from FBD and PoF; but of course, they never speak or are DTF.I must have gotten a hundred or more matches in the past decade, and none of them led to sex. I have still never escaped inceldom.>I wanna keep it between the sheetsI wish I could find the same. I hate dating/socialising. I'd rather just come over for some drinking and fucking; have overnights together.
>>84542178I miss okcupid, plenty of fish always felt like it was for country people. >none of them led to sexDo you not push to meet quickly? I learned after getting back into dating after a long hiatus a LOT of men are just using the app for validation with no intention of meeting. I was strung along so much with men just using me for an ego boost
>>84542152Do you think you can pull off 25?
>>84541748Do you ever do anal with them?
Damn, she's younger than me. TFW no foid like that in my teens.One big reason that I go for older women is that they can't baby-trap. I want to creampie. My trouble with arousal and sensitivity is definitely not helped by rubbers. Sure, I'd hook up with foids in their 30s and younger, but they only want Chad. Shit, the older ones are the same now.I may be about to turn 40, but I am sure as shit not getting any action from this 'daddy' phase.>>84542193Bold of you to assume they even really talk to me, let alone even want to meet, and fuck.I certainly want to meet quickly and fuck, obviously, but they usually get super-offended and block. I hate the talking stage. The very few who ever insinuated that they wanted to bang (and still wouldn't be direct about it), all ghosted me anyway. So from the matches I have gotten over the years that never led to sex, all I can take from it is the supposed validation that I am not ugly, for a bald manlet autist.Sadly, foids certainly DO use it for validation. Why talk to me and fuck me, when they can get a dozen Chads on cycle. FML.
>>84542232Do you play with your ass?
>>84542247>I want to creampieOnly the nastiest gutter slut would let a random fwb creampie her even with a clear std test logged into your std test profile seeing it for herself.
>>84542232>>84542255I'm a never anal queen
>>84541323>twisting reality so she was eternally the victim>paint herself as my savioursame anon, same. and mine was actually younger than me, but significantly smarter and her best friend is some wretched faggot who hated me on sight and all but openly brags about being manipulative.the thing is that after that experience i really want to meet another girl like that to learn as much as i can from her.
I'm an older woman who is open to dating younger men.My dating app filter goes up to 3 years younger. I use hinge.The fear a lot of women have is the younger guy isn't serious about us. Oftentimes it's from experience.
>>84542320>3 years youngerUnless you're relatively young yourself (in your 20s) 3 years younger isn't really that much younger
>>84542330I'm 26.And in the past, going any younger at all ended up being a possibly significant issue.I think oftentimes younger men are the most physically attractive (as not everyone ages well), but I am wary, because they are more of a flight risk. I also and much more proactive about looking for a guy with the same intention as me (finding a life partner).Fortunately the divorce data shows the risk isn't too bad if the gap is about 3 years or smaller, and maybe now that I'm older, up to a few years won't be too bad.
>>84542348When dating younger men are they still the dominant/masculine partner in the relationship or do you tend to take the lead?
>>84542358I think the majority were either equals or on the more dominant side.I definitely loved it if the guy acted dommy in a gentlemanly way.
>>84542320Just open or do you have a preference for them?
>>84542348who would be the breadwinner in the relationship
>>84542372There are pros and cons.Physically speaking they are usually more attractive than older guys are. (Not always! Just like I said, often people don't take the best care of themselves as they age.)Personality tends to improve with age, and dating intentions also get more serious. So, it depends where they're at physically and mentally. I think if I were to create a theoretical perfect partner, he'd look early 20s but behave older.
>>84542348How much experience do you have with dating and dating younger guys specifically?
>>84539776I dunno man, I've only dated older women, not because I chased them, but because they landed on me
>>84542386We would have to figure that out together. I don't make enough to do that yet, but I probably will within the next few months. (I just got certified in a decent income field with a masters degree. I've applied to dozens of jobs already.)My personal ideal is that we are a power couple. We can both make money and start businesses together.
>>84542408A decent amount of experience with dating, and it's hard to say, but if I had to guess, it's about an even mix or older versus younger. Maybe more so older, but I have dated (not always had sex with) several younger guys.
>>84542435*Of older versus younger
>>84539776>want a completely submissive bfI need to find these women
>>84542211I say I'm 26 online sometimes and I pass for it I think. I've fucked a college guy in his dorm rooms it was fun I loved how anxious he got at any bump like he'd get in trouble
>>84541323Classic bpd demon. Many such cases. I had one for 5 weeks before I got sick of it and told her to fuck off. She kept calling me from new phone numbers every time I blocked her the annoying cunt.
>>84539793>they can tell what you're doing dude.What does this even mean?
>>84542152GOODNESS ME WOMAN, what is so attractive about younger guys? that is one hell of an age gap
>>84543749they can pump 10+ nuts a day into her dusty ol cooch
>>84542320>I'm an older woman who is open to dating younger menoh thats cool, tell me more ab->My dating app filter goes up to 3 years younger. I use hinge.oh nvm
when i was 20 I dated a 27 year old but she would get pissed off at me when I didn't know how to do stuff or know certain things like bitch, youre the one dating a 20 year old, tf? but she got a coil so I could blast multiple nuts in her daily so it kinda balanced out...
>>84539776>I'm well-off, conventionally attractive, and (I hope) interesting to talk to.This means you're not funny. Step up your humor game.
>>84539776In my experience all the women I get the hots for are lesbian anyway.
>>84544770Nigga wants OP to jestermaxx
Because anon unless you're hot enough for them to use as a sex toy (you probably aren't unless you can get a job as a male stripper somewhere) then there's no reason for them to seriously date you.
I was talking to a woman the same age as me and, being autistic, couldn't suppress my instincts to math: given a below-average amount of sex weekly (to be conservative), the person she casually pretends didn't matter is the same person who she took about a half-marathon of dick from, laid end to end, over a decade of being married.Tell me again why an elevated bodycount is worse than this?
>older than Misato nowfuck
>>84545689Wasn't Misato like 28 or something? 29 or 30 isn't terribly old in the grand scheme of things
>>84545557This to. If you're ugly they don't care lol.
>>84546094She was 29, meaning anon is now in his 30s
>tfw never got to have an older gf and now I'm old myselfIt's so depressing
>>84546097Right. Like if she wanted an ugly dude there are plenty of ugly divorced dads they could choose from.
>>84544389There's a difference between going for an older woman and cougarmaxxing
Dating is getting more brutal with each passing year. Men are getting so desperate they're chasing hags and inflating their egos. All foids are basically Chad only in 2026 and beyond.
