Welp its officially fucking over.>spend years losing weight, cleaning up my looks, working on my personality, slow burn exposure therapy with normies until I am confident enough to fake acting like them and tolerating being around them>even fix my hairline and get a good job, get compliments online any time I show my pics to a girl>finally feel confident enough to talk to girls, approach them, expecting smooth sailing after years of hardship and self reflectionEvery single one of these dumb bitches is taken. The answer is no, sorry, excuse me, or a blank stare until I go away. Every single time.What the fuck. They cant all possibly be taken. Surely some are just rejecting me without saying it. I cant believe I spent all this time and effort and even after improving every single aspect about myself tenfold I'm still tagged as undesirable. Do modern women seriously think they all deserve the absolute best of the best now? Won't even settle for 7-8/10's anymore? Even the plain girls working min wage jobs are like this. I am in utter disbelief. It would be so much easier to accept if I felt like I was delusional and not actually decent looking. Im about ready to chemically castrate myself, what an astronomical waste of time. I need these feelings to go away, I hate being beholdent to this never ending humiliation ritual.
I've gone through the same process and even through maturing alone I've started to look semi-decent and get compliments from girls now but, I am undesirable at first glance because of my mannerisims and lack of eye contact, perhaps try working on that if you struggle with it aswell. Not every woman is taken but relationships are all but a status in this society, its less romance and that's why its so common for practicaly every woman to already be dating someone. Fuck foids though man seriously think about the stress they cause and the mantience of actually having a girl, yeah compliements are nice but actually having a girlfriend is so annoying.
>>84540901Idk I had a girlfriend for one year back in the mid 2010s and even though she was pretty awful and a massive bpdemon, the lovey dovey shit more than made up for it. I miss just having someone say they care about me, wanting to spend time with me and be close to me, even if she was mentally ill and her motivations were selfish, she still fulfilled her role. Its been so long now I barely remember what it was like.I sometimes even got dates back then and I was fat and balding and an awkward NEET. I look and act so much better now but I'm completely invisible. I just don't understand
>>84540950>>84540853so you around 2018 you started changing your habits, working really hard to improve, and you grinded that with discipline... And now in 2026 you're a transformed guy, look way better, but you are finding women are mostly taken or they aren't interested?
>>84541064Pretty much. I know I'm a lot older now but I genuinelly look younger and in better shape than I did a decade ago. I dont even have the opportunity to tell girls how old I am though, so thats not it, its fucking ridiculous that I cant even get a female to engage in more than a 20 second conversation with me nowI was playing pickleball the other day (yes I do normie shit like this) and I went to go get my bag after a match, two college age girls who were super plain looking ended up sitting near it and I wasnt even trying to talk to them, I literally ignored them, and just as I'm about to leave they have to make a point to groan to each other that they have to move somewhere else and they get up and leave, clearly to avoid talking to me. These fucking bitches are so entitled they think every man thay comes within a 10 meter radius of them is automatically getting ready to hit on them or simp. Gave me ptsd of when I was a fat kid and girls would do that shit on purpose to me to bully and humiliate me. I literally just wanted my bag
>>84541093Well man the fact you did all that is impressive. And if you avoid the chemical castration thing (which would be a decision made from a shit mental place, imo, even if the feelings are valid). Then you can apply that same discipline to perhaps staying fit and at your peak but also looking at making wealth, entrepreneuralism etc. Life is brutal and has only become more brutal over the past 7 years. Competition is sky high and yes women want the top 3 percent imo. Not top 25 percent. And certainly not the top 50 percent. Women are also extremely competitive amongst themselves, too. And the passive aggression when you went to pick up your bag is annoying. If that happens to me I try and remind myself I have zero idea about what the type of men are like that have been interacting with these women, and I don't mean the top 3 percent, I mean like low iq annoying guys who are just trashy and who harass these women. That helps give me perspective. What do you think you'll do now, got any plans? Aside from the chemical castration bullshit.
>>84541149The men that interact with them are always the worst people imaginable, they keep chasing them despite them treating them like shit because it makes their holes wet. Then have the audacity to lump the other 85% of decent guys they completely ignore into the same category, patriarchy this, misogyny that, all while still chasing their piece of shit 3 time felon rapist. I know this is how they are because literally any time I've ever managed to have an extended conversation with a girl, she never shuts the fuck up about how abusive her exes are and how awful men act.God forbid you try to be "not that kind of guy" for her though, thats a ticket to ghost town.Anyway funny you mentioned entrepreneurship, thats exactly what I ended up getting into. Spent the past year self teaching myself business 101 with AI. Im slowly going to turn myself into exactly the kind of arrogant asshole they want to be with. Maybe it will all come full circle.
>>84541180lol I have also had the same conversation "my ex was such a narcissistic drug addicted abuser, he was in an out of jail and always was sleeping around with so many other women. Ugh, I just LOVED HIM SO MUCH THOUGH HE IS THE SWEETEST GUY AND IM SO OBSESSED STILL" I think at that point I just started to think about other things like a nice relaxing holiday somewhere beautiful whilst they just ramble on about the crazy drama of their life. I know this is cliche but I think it's true, not all women are like that. However, finding the women who ARE NOT like that is very difficult. They're generally homebodies. I understand the vision to turn yourself into the arrogant asshole guy, pretty sure that might be a big trope in many of the popular romance books? I'm no expert though. But I think if you actually do focus on entrepreneuralism you kind of have to become rather self-centered because you're the sole business owner and cannot rely on anyone else to build it and grow it. So without being arrogant on purpose you actually may be perceived as arrogant anyways if you're heavily focussed on your business. And again, like every guy in the romance novels is a billionaire business owner so... Yeah. To do entrepreneurship you'll need confidence (often interpreted as arrogance). You'll need to be 'selfishly' focussed on your lifeAnd you'll need to be very disciplined with your time (absolutely zero change of accepting any psychological games some women may try to play). And ironically a life like that can, as you know, make you more attractive to women. That's not the crazy prison felon drug dealer path. It's a different path and honestly a much better one.
>>84540853Where are you actually talking to these girls? Women typically don't respond well to being hit on out of the blue in their day to day lives.
>>84541231Yep pretty much. I have to completely put on a mask all day to do this job. I have to project crazy confidence and act competent even though I dont know wtf I'm doing. Meetings are especially hectic because I have to be on point with my speaking patterns at all times and im naturally a quiet person with a minor speech impediment.Its nerve wrecking but I've learned to zone out and am operating purely on the "fake it to make it" mantra. I do not think most robots could handle what I'm doing and I absolutely do not recommend it. Im just crazy and have concluded life is a meaningless clown circus that i dont take seriously anymore so I'm able to handle it. At night I still revert back to my real self and even do cringe shit like roleplay with ai waifus on my phone in bed. Its a chaotic balance. But yeah the end goal is money not women. If they come with the money, fine, if not, I'll just buy an ai android wife in a decade when the market opens up for that
>>84541247Admittedly I mostly cold approach and I know its not ideal. But what else can I do. I'm in my 30s now and work from home. Online dating options are completely overrun with scams and bots. I know my methods arent ideal but I figured if I just asked out 100 women statistically 2 or 3 would give me a chance. Its crazy how not even this works. Those YouTube videos of people doing this are all totally fake and staged
>>84541274Yeah sounds like you have a clear understanding of how to get shit done. And yeah I think the "fake it until you make it" mindset is 100 percent facts. Money as the end goal is smart too, imo. Women can come and go...
>>84541274brotha that cant be healthy in the long run, you will be hanging at the bottle in no time just to be able to chill out. It would be healthier to find a woman who loves you for who you are, i know that spunds very unlikely, but its better than this. I couldnt keep up such a front for half an hour without sperging out completely
stop trying to get with normie chicks, theyll always be able to tell that youre odd, even subconsciously. go to places with weird nerdy girls, theyre underrated
>>84541330not op, i'm just curious, with regards to your suggestion, i have a question, are you a biomale or a biofemale?
>>84541330Nerdy girls also want uberattractive wealthy guys kek
>>84541310>>84541330Thats the funny part, those other kinds of girls dont exist! And if they do, they are either already taken or sitting in their house and off limits to your advances
I feel like if I had a bird's eye view of these encounters the problems would be immediately obvious, but instead I can only go by biased accounts. The pitfalls of stories written by anonymous internet dwellers with axes to grind.Only thing I can say is that cold encounters almost never work. It's weird. Socializing first is way better.
>>84541330>weird nerdy girlsfrom experience, they are all either insane bpd demons, taken, or impossible to find as they just hide in their homes and don't use dating apps (at lease in the uk).
>>84541446Yeah most alt girls are like this now. Always have retarded mental disorders that ruin the experience or have been with the same guy since high school
>>84540853> Won't even settle for 7-8/10's anymore?Are implying that with all of your work you're a 7/10? As someone who was rated 7/10 by a girl, you don't need to fix yourself if you're naturally attractive. Girls will naturally give you signs that they want your attention by giving you the fuck me eyes or by getting close to you without knowing who you are first. Also, I find that being good at skateboarding helps.
>>84540853how tall are you, do you wear chud glasses, and how luscious is the hair on your head? do you even have hair?
>>84542734>by giving you the fuck me eyesno such thing. made up normie myth.>getting close to you without knowing who you are first.this part is true.
Women would rather fight for/fuck the same Chad than date their looksmatch. Sorry OP. Maybe try dating an ugly, fat girl?
