This image is currently wreaking havoc on online feminist circles as they simply cannot bring themselves to answer without changing the terms
May I see the havoc?
>>84555653Do you ever get tired debating with foids? It will never change shit. I'm just telling you now. >t. 32 year oldcel
>"UM AKSHUALLY THE SHORT GUY IS JUST A TOXIC ''''''''''NICE GUY'''''''''' AND UHHHH THAT'S WHY HE'S AN UNFUCKABLE CHUD"
>>84555662and btw, all you do in effect is make them feel powerful. Which women really want to feel powerful. Look at the media they consume. Look at the shit they brag about. They want to feel like they have power over men. So when you debate them, you are putting the chips in their corner. Which they love. Just move on. Stop interacting with foids.
>>84555659https://x.com/Wisdom_HQ/status/2053812638845428186https://x.com/_nomadic_soul/status/2053886582948790557https://x.com/mfnprincesa/status/2054067845290512573
>>84555653The funniest one is the image where they swapped the sexes and all the men were saying they'd obviously want a relationship with the less attractive uglier woman.
>>84555653It's funny how if Joe was also 6'1 they would all simply choose Joe
>>84555690I know the height pill is pretty brutal but idk if it's nearly that strong. Joe is still 5/10 in looks at best, and looks boring and timid. He'd need at least 1 other major positive appearance factor to actually tip the scales. Maybe be fit, or have better hair.
>>84555653Moids will whine and moan about how women choose to be fat then present you with a choice between a fatty and a model and think it's a gotcha>>84555686The funniest thing is when they don't mention that they wouldn't mind a casual, short term involvement with left, which would be what women who choose left are essentially getting into as well
Damn is this bitch saying Jews made this trope to get white women to fall in love with their ugly mugs?
>>84555771It's true. White men need to stop falling for Jewish tricks and looksmaxx. Also, do your best not to breed someone like RFH. She is one ugly bitch and your sons will be ugly because of her.
>>84555653Joe will age better, but Jack feels good right now which is all that women care about. There is no logical conclusion to this debate without revoking women's right to choose.
>>84555683>https://x.com/Wisdom_HQ/status/2053812638845428186>https://x.com/_nomadic_soul/status/2053886582948790557Lmao the absolute seethe is hilarious
I got to admit she has a point
>>84555653>bottom userHYPER TRVKE
>>84555771>>84555822>>84555825The sooner you stop interacting with women, the better your life will be. I hope you do realize this.
>>84555825That actually is nutsThat said, twitter women are negative outliers. Like these bitches get to the point of narcissism where they call babies parasites, they've left humanity behind and become monsters. No point in interacting with it observing them at all
This is true. I'm tall and I'm great
>>84555822>>84555825>>84555855women literally cannot imagine a short guy being a good person.I'll be honest, I'm 5'3" and I'm a pretty shitty person with no morals but I don't speak for every manlet.
>>84555653I don't care who the fuck she chooses, I'm the one who's supposed to have options
>>84555771Kinda based though.
>>84555928Yeah radical terfs give me a big boner, especially when they're naming the Jew
>>84555855This is simply correct.The Napoleon complex is real and it's exhibited even in other animal species for example dogs.A larger size relaxes animals on an instinctive level because they naturally feel less threatened and more secure.I even think fat people exhibit similar behavior to a certain extent. Despite the fact they may be self conscious about their weight they still often appear instinctively relaxed in social situations.
>>84555653I bet if they were both 6 foot one left guy would get a lot more love. I also bet if they reversed the heights left guy would get all the attention.
>>84555653As every days go by,I start to see he was right,The man known as Lepine,Who put up a great fight,He saw the hypocrisy,He rose up against it, yes!We should have a statue of him,And to not genuflect to it, a sin,Seig heil!
Woman here. In reality the ugly guy treats women worse. Beautiful men are nicer even in one night stands
>>84556011>Beautiful men are nicer even in one night standsTell me about your favorites
>>84556011Yeah, the ugly guy starts out nice and then when he gets treated like shit by the world and ignored by women he decides not to be nice
>>84555653The fucked thing is they are being so harsh when the guy on the left isn't even ugly he's just average or slightly below with dogshit clothes and glasses. 5'6" is brutal obviously but swap their clothes and you close their rating by two points at least.
>>84555653women absolutely owe me sex because i'm nice to them (i don't punch them in the face or the back of the head upon seeing them)
>>84556024>tell me about your favorites.... noYou give me bad vibes
>>84556025This. It's just foids' lack of empathy trying to spit on someone who is already down Pretty deplorable people
>Here's a hypothetical: Would you rather date a good but unattractive person or a toxic but attractive person?>Women start screeching, ignore the hypothetical and just claim attractive person = good person and vice versaHonestly incredible.It's fascinating how women tend to just conflate looks and demeanor because they can't stop thinking using their pussies.Then they wonder how could they ever be betrayed because it's inconceivable to them that a good looking man could be a manipulator, then screech all men are awful yet don't even learn their lesson and fall for another good looking manipulator that comes along.The fact that they can't even accept the notion of a bad looking good person and vice versa in a fucking hypothetical is just silly at this point.
>>84555855kinda what happens when heightism is so prevalent and there's obvious heightist bias in our society-maybe if height wasn't rewarded as often short men would feel less insecure>>84555958smaller dogs were bred as hunting animals/ guard dogs and so are obviously more vocal. larger dogs are for pulling sleds n' shit. the napoleon complex was made up by a jew called alfred adler to support the jewish concept of insecurity in freudian pseudoscience. aggression in short men is just punished in heightist anglosphere societies, because shortness is seen as low status and aggression is seen as high status>>84556011exactly, because he's discriminated against by the world
>>84556035What do we think brahs?
>>84556065Foids are retarded and think looks = personality. Shrimple as that
>>84556065But I did eat breakfast this morning, your post doesn't make any sense
>>84555822Do they not get hypotheticals? In a hypothetical you assume that what they are saying is the case, like would you rather have sex with a woman who looks like a man or a man who looks like a woman, you just imagine if this were the case, that's how hypotheticals work. Really reminds me of>how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast
>>84556069Subtle improvement to his facial structure
Yeah, I really wonder who men would pick...
they'd rather sleep with a chad that goons to small children getting raped lmao. pic related.
>>84555653>online feminist circles>>84555683>it's just xitterbabble Anyway, I've tried to add one more dimension to the hypothetical >>84556065>It's fascinating how women tend to justThese aren't 'women' these are ipad babies addicted to twitter who you will never see IRL
>>84555653both are shit. just kill me instead
>>84556097There are entire communities dedicated to worshipping fat chicks, no such thing exists for fat men. Also both look like trannies.
>>84556106>men having shallow fetishes is meaningfulwow
>>84556107Men fetishize every body type. Women fetishize 1 and pretend its not a fetish.
>>84556106>There are entire communities dedicated to worshipping fat chicksNo one gives a shit about what some disgusting coomers think
>>84556104Your image says they all have a good personality but a toxic, narcissistic, or a nice guy can't have a good personality because those are all bad personality traits.
>>84556069At this rate someone's gonna imagine them fucking each other so I'd say you're on the right track.
>>84556120>this nigga thinks that men having porn-sick fetishes that dehumanize women are somehow a good thingBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAlmost all fat chicks who get together with a "fat chaser" share how they literally just become his fetish object, where he keeps feeding them even if it makes them sick so he can get his rocks off and plus they cheat a lot trying to get with more fat chicks to fulfill their fetish rocks.
>>84556097I think I have made a good robot equivalent.Who would you choose moids?Girl on right named Jane>bpd>toxic>narcissist>will cheat on you but not as far as having sex>body count is 0Girl on left named Jenny>loyal>caring>funny>nice girl>body count is 2
>>84556132girl on the right ALL DAAAY
>>84555653You guys hyped for that one repetitive troon reply were they are drawn kissing each other, so as to blatantly deny the original social implications of the opposing sides, that's gonna posted soon? I can't wait, woohoo...
>>84556097>>84556132foid on the right looks like a bitch, so neither
>>84556127The point is that having a good personality or having inherent value as a human is not meaningful. In the original image both characters had a "good personality," so in good faith, you can assume everyone is inherently good. That's why the Jack character was said to have a good personality even though he was toxic. Also what? Being nice is bad? >>84556132I don't think this is an equivalent at all
>>84556140That will only be done once the female equivalent is settled on
>>84556069Now he has a good personality
>>84556150>I dont think this is an equivalent at allWhy not?
>>84556097Men would go for left when they hear she has a nice personality (introverted and nerdy, just wants to stay inside and watch cartoons).This would turn off women.
>>84556132Right, I mean you're downgraded left from a 5/10 to a 3/10 by faceswapping and retaining masculine features and given her a higher body count than right so clearly I'm not going to love either of these women, I might as well go with the one I can have sex with and otherwise detach from to the extent possible.
>>84556172I don't know why whites stopped thugmaxxing. They were good at it. No one can be more psychotic.
>>84556181The absolute majority of men would NOT go for left even if she had a personality and if they did, they would absolutely jerk it to hot girls in porn and fantasize about hotties and never be fully fulfilled.
>>84556132Left. I can help Jenny lose a bit of weight and she'd look just fine. You can't change anyone's core personality however and cheating is 100% a dealbreaker
>>84555653WaowWhat would the guys version look like
>>84556097Left looks wrong because she's fat with no tits. That's a massive debuff, would be like making Joe bald or have no chin. Fat chicks usually have big breasts too.
>>84556041>.... no>You give me bad vibesYou whore. I was just being nice. Bitch
>>84556187Gotcha. Let me make things a bit more fair. Girl on left named Jane>bpd>toxic>narcissist>will cheat on you but not as far as having vaginal intercourse>body count is 0Girl on right named Jenny>loyal>caring>funny>nice girl>body count is 1
>>84556132>>bpd>>will cheat on you but not as far as having sex>>body count is 0She will fuck another guy and she lost her virginity as a child, literally
>>84556189The gubmint infiltrated and broke up all the white gangs. Shame.
>>84556097Honestly neither but if I had to choose that would be the right, however that's only because the woman on the right had barley any femenine features and appears to be a stuck up lesbian camp counsler from 2010.
>>84556228I'd probably have to go with right then and stomach the cuckoldry of non-virginity. Left isn't even that hot now it's like 6/10 vs 4/10.
>>84556176Instead of text I'll try to explain with my own picture This is based off the template here >>84556104I'm trying to make it as equivalent as possible while factoring in that men and women have different priorities, so it's not perfect, but it's a start Personally, top left, any day
>>84556260Top left or top right, if I had to choose any bottom option I'd rather be alone
>>84556260Nah you gotta add the moid equivalent to height, which is body count. I find my rules much more fair. Suppose the girl on top lefts body count is 2 and the bottom right is 0, and when bottom right cheats on you she will not have vaginal intercourse. Which would you choose? Also top left girl is way more attractive than the guy in the OP pic, so I still dont think it is that fair.
>>84556275Nigga that's like a 5.5/10 chick. You're blinded by the female attractiveness bias. They're not far off from being lookmatched
>>84556260Its actually insane how much the bottom right looks like my ex and she is in the correct corner too
>>84556288Are you fucking retarded? Both girls on the right have makeup on while the left clearly does not. If top left had makeup on she would EASILY be a 7/10
>>84556262It seems from the male perspective, we only have the bottom row options and from the female perspective, they also think that they only have bottom row options, besides the delusion case that said the bottom row toxic guys are actually always top right >>84556275Bodycount is alluded to with the term "past" and "baggage," because men and women have different priorities.Because carrying baggage is an aspect of character, not of physicality, the good character option is sorted into the top row, just like the good looking option is sorted into the right column. The choice is supposed to be asymmetrical by design. >>84556288It is really funny how blind people are to bias, the chimp part of his brain is thinking ooh ooh woman woman pussy ooh ah ah The term "looksmatch" should not be used by anyone with an IQ below their shoe size >>84556295You know that makeup doesn't actually change your face shape or the heaviness of your facial features or proportion, right? Why can't the bottom left just look like either picture on the right column then?
>>84556301Isnt it funny that you are acting exactly like how the women did with the original OP pic? Instead of answering any of my would you rathers, you moved the goalposts just like how the women did with the male image. My job here is done.
>>84556313I wasn't primarily interested in your examples because I wanted to make my own in response to OP. I was focused on fleshing out the concept and making it better. This doesn't revolve around you. But sure, which ones ITT are yours again? If you point me to them then I'll answer yours in particular and give you my reasoning for my decisions.
>>84556260Top left. Top right will have other men vying for her attention & she'd eventually leave me for someone else because I'm not special, bottom right is a nightmare, bottom left is a less tempting nightmare.
>>84556097I mean, I'm honest. I would pick right. I'm not gonna lie, gaslight, say "uh but left is a cat lady serial killer." I know it's not a good choice, and I'm shallow, and it'll end badly. At least I can admit that though, I'm not in denial.I want the bad bitch. I want the girl out of my league. I want her, I don't care. I won't grandstand or pretend otherwise, and women should be honest too.
>>84556295I don't know that that's true but its not really relevant to her being 5.5/10 in the image provided. Unless you think she mogs the average woman on the street of her age?
>>84555743fat women have the same absurd standards as thin women. it doesn't matter what the woman looks like, she is still delusional.>which would be what women who choose left are essentially getting into as wellexcept men understand the meaning of "wife material" while women don't.men don't seek tingles and endless excitement, while women do
>>84556320>>84556228>>84556132>>84556275 With my specific parameters please
>>84556335Asked chatgpt to put makeup on her and do her hair
>>84556228Neither Jane or Jenny gun to my head, then Jane>>84556132Neither againgun to my head, then Jane>>84556275This isn't a hypotheticalNow can I criticize the logic or lack thereof you used? Or am I still in Karen timeout>>84556358Notice how it just enshittifies her and makes her look worse like the bottom left lol
>>84556358Cool. AI is truly an interesting tool
>>84556011Type of woman who'll date serial killers of rapists just cause they're handsome. Chad does what Chad wants.
>>84556364Im saying use my same perameters on your post. Would you go top left or bottom right. Seems like you would prefer Jane each time.> Notice how it just enshittifies her and makes her look worseNow that is just being disingenuous and you know it.
>>84556260bottom left has the best face you dumb foid
>>84556381Your posts only have 2 choices between the Jane and Jenny options, not 4 choices on a grid. It isn't possible to use your "perameters" on my post. Can you make a graphic with your parameters instead so that I can choose from it, and then I can be allowed to criticize your logic or lack thereof? >Now that is just being disingenuous and you know it.The original photo looks better than the ai edited one, idk what to tell you
This is image makes no sense he can't be good personality if he is toxic, this is the high iq misogynists I am supposed to be intellectually intimidated by ?
>>84556401Im not making four different hypotheticals. Bottom left and top right girl do not exist. Just suppose that top left is Jennie and bottom right is Jane. the girl on top lefts body count is 2 and the bottom right is 0, and when bottom right cheats on you she will not have vaginal intercourse. Which would you choose between these two?
>>84555822>>84556091>>84556065>not hot = bad personnotice how women never apply this same logic to other women
>>84556104>>84556127replace "good personality" with "exciting personality"(retarded women, which is most of them, will still choose the exciting toxic guy)
>>84556129>porn-sick>t. retard
>>84556097Probably neither
>>84556172pic related makes it all simple
>>84555855>does cognitive bias / halo effect and then justifies itdo midwit holes really
>>84556415Oh it's because you're a phoneposter, so not much effort is even possible. Got it. Tl;dr --- Jane if the choice doesn't matter, Jennie if I'm forced to stick with one of them. I will explain the rationale behind the choice like promised. 1. Jennie is ~5/10 with baggage and exes. 2. Jane is >7/10 but plans on making me her baggage and ex. Both options are women of bad moral character, so in terms of personality, they are equivalent. So therefore, the choices are:1. ~5/10 with bad character (Jennie)2. >7/10 with bad character (Jane)Because both options are bad, I'm not impelled towards either. And in this scenario as it is laid out, neither choice ultimately matters since I could just terminate the relationship before it moves beyond dating. If the choice doesn't ultimately matter, then I would choose Jane, because she's slightly better to look at and maybe go on a few dates before breaking it off. So, I will assume you mean that I must actually be compelled towards moving past dating one of them. With this assumption (correct me if I'm wrong) then I will have to choose Jennie, because it doesn't even make sense to enter into a binding contract with someone who is forthright about intending to breach it.
>>84556512Dang, your explanation was detailed as fuck. Thanks for the response.
>>84556537What must confuse male readers of the apology for the OP image is that both options are only bad if looks are non-negotiable and the chooser doesn't plan ahead into the future. They should just be forthright that looks are non-negotiable to them and that they also do not care to plan ahead into the future, then I think there would be less drama.
>>84556578Completely agree. Well said.
>>84556132Joe in the OP example is just 5/10, why did you make his supposed female equivalent a 3/10 that's also old and fat with no tits
>>84556065women are not human and not capable of any kind of self awareness or higher level thinking. even the "booksmart" ones are complete and total children upstairs.
>>84556091>Do they not get hypotheticalsThey get it but know anseering the hypothetical would make them look terrible and refuse. Not realizing refusing also makes them more terrible. Women are very stupid.
I wouldn't even hold it against them if they were honest, I mean it's their life, so they should do what they want. It's the flight from honesty or good faith interaction at all that's so depressing.
>>84556132I have to choose between two transgender women? This isn't an equivalent.
>>84556132Why did you give the ugly one a bodycount? There is no reason to choose her now
Women like attractive men. Boohoo grow some fucking balls. I like attractive women.
>>84557320Your disingenuous retardation makes me think you're a woman. This entire thread has been about how women are reframing the argument and not being honest. If they were honest about their inability to see sub-8 men as human beings the world would be a better place
>all the men choosing Emmalmao women will never recover
>>84555958False. There's been studies that actually show Napoleon Complex is just a case of Lookism.Tall men have been shown in studies to be more aggressive than shorter men.
>>84556132I would have a one stand with the right for a self esteem boost and then use that to look for a normal girl who isn't bpd and puts the bare minimum in basic hygiene, if that isn't an option I jerk off.
>>84556106>No such thing exists for fat menIt does exist buts its much smaller, also BBW is a marketing term used by pornography companies to normalize this fetish with men specifically which is why women are more prominent
>>84556260none of em, top right doesn't exist outside of modeling
>>84557686Emma is authentically better looking in the face, ignoring all the traits I would still pick her A tall forehead is extremely attractive to me. It always correlates with intelligence. That tiny forehead white and ethnic girls always lack depth. I wouldn't look twice at Jax for a serious relationship
>>84556122except those very fat women who benefit from it
>>84557686Emma is unironically a 3/10 and that's still good enough for men.
>>84557051This is literally just ai genderswap. She didnt add anything that wasnt there.The original guy is also old (30-40 range for both), fat et ceteraIt is just that yes men are that hideous. Much more terrible looks are forgiven in men. His female equivalent has no chance at all
>>84555771>screenwriter-americansStealing this.
>>84558571added nothing that wasnt there but 100 pounds lmao
>>84557686emma is a 5 and while jax may rate higher, she isn't as attractive. women will never understand what this means.
>>84557686The cigarette automatically disqualifies Jax without reading anything else, I wouldn't kiss an ash mouth.
>>84558571You can't just swap a male face with a female face. Men and women's body types are different and men and women like different things. The guy in OP doesn't have a terrible body for a man. He's broad, wide shoulders, thick neck. All of these traits are good for a man, but horrible for a woman. She also has no tits, and she's wearing men's clothing, so she looks like a lesbian.And even despite ALL THAT, I would still pick her over the bitch on the right, so that's really saying something, isn't it?
>>84555653The problem with the womens responses is not that theyre lying or reframing it to look better, its that theyre instinctively going outside the hypothetical and projecting negative traits on to joe simply because he is ugly.
>>84555653Halo effect. When they see attractive men they are compelled to tack good qualities onto him. I haven't even seen what they said yet, but I know what they said.Even as a hypothetical where it is laid out that this guy is a 100% a shitbag, the first thing out of their penguin mouths will be "You're lying, he looks so sweet"and the second thing will be "that guy on the left looks like a grapist. He looks like one of those fake 'nice guys'.... erm ick much !!!"
>>84557686>>84556097The right is female gazey in these examples. Most men aren't into these striking biker dyke types.
>>84556260I would get every single one and start mackin
People making judgements of someone based on their appearance makes me think back to covid and hearing accounts from men getting more attention from women when they were wearing masks.Maybe a lot of people will be wearing masks in the future
I want to debate these women, but then I get the feeling that it'd be like debating with a child. It just feels wrong, like I'd be stepping on a sandcastle. They don't know any better, they physically can't.
Extremely retarded pic. The written down details of those two men do not match their pictures. At all.
>>84556132That is not an equivalent
>>84559175Oh so good looking guys are always good and bad looking guys are always bad? Even assuming that's true it's a hypothetical, to see if women would choose looks or personality first.Instead every single woman immediately seethes and says good looking guys can't be bad, and bad looking guys can't be good. Or they dance around the question/change the question/just insult the creator of the image etc instead of just answering. Honestly if women just answered honestly I'd actually think more of them since they would at least be being honest.
>>84555653Theyre the same image, just one is ugly.
>>84557686Try finding real pictures instead of using perfect AI generated faces. Your current example doesn't work because Emma beats Jax in looks.
>>84555653Pffft! Hahaha! 6'1", that's not good enough for women these days.
>>84555653Unapologetically Jack. Joe can go hang himself that ugly moid.
>>84555653Joe looks cute I dont know what people are on about
>>84556132>>84556132>>84556275>Nah you gotta add the moid equivalent to height, which is body count.Body count is not a physical trait, unlike height. The point of the original hypothetical was that all the physical traits were in right's favor, while personality traits/past behavior favored left. So if you include body count, that should favor Jenny. Maybe weight could be used as the height equivalent?
>>84559876Weight is a choice, the female equivalent to height is breast size
Call me crazy, but I believe height is the male and female equivalent to height.
>>84560065>>84559907Men do not give a flying fuck about height, breast size would be more accurate, but even then less men care about that as well compared to height for women. I agree with anon that number of sexual partners is probably the male equivalent to height for females, even though height is not something you can change.
>>84555653>Cheater>Toxic>Narcissist..But has a good personality..? What?
>>84556260I tried for top right when I was young. She never wanted me, the one time I thought she did, it turned out that she was bottom right.From the ones who did want me, I had to go through a lot of bottom left before finding a top left and stopping.
Let me clear this up for everyoneThe male mind only cares about the following things in a girlfriend/wife>Not fat>Not a cunt>Not a cheaterThat's it. That's literally it, and even the fat thing is negotiable. Any other positive qualities are a bonus.Height, money, status, none of these things really matter for us. When they make these comparatives "what would he choose?" they're just projecting their own biases onto us. They'd rather pretend reality doesn't exist rather than admit they're shallow bitches.
