Do you think you could life a happy or fulfilling life without a romantic partner for the rest of your life?
>>84560093I don't get why couples share intimate stuff like this. I would want it all just for me. In public, I'd prefer to be entirely straight-laced, no PDA whatsoever, but very intimate and affectionate in private.I don't understand.
>>84560093i think i could. im 25 without any experience so it seems preferable at times. though id be lying if waking up next to someone wasnt a goal of minei think i could get the same companionship out of a good dog, or other animals. in terms of sharing the world with someone.
>>84560093No of course not. You already knew that.>>84560115This is from a movie.>>84560124You'll be dead within 10 years.
>>84560093No, I realized that after finding a good woman. But on the other hand, I wouldn't want to wake up next to a bad woman and I know for a fact that I could be alone for a long time and survive. Not live happily, but survive.
>>84560093I wouldn't be happy with one, so what's the difference?
>>84560149>This is from a movie.Gotcha. Still, though, my point stands. I see real couples share stuff like this online all the time or perform PDA.I can't be the only one who wants to keep all those intimate moments with his girlfriend/wife for himself.
>>84560197I agree. My oneitis set her instagram to private and the post and follower counts haven't moved in years and deleted everything else. She doesn't even have a picture on LinkedIn. It should have been me.
>>84560093Not that I couldn't, but I would feel very unsuccessful in my own eyes if I couldn't have a romantic partner or start my own family, or at least have the chance. A big part of my own personal definition of success is having my own family
>>84560093I used to think no.Then women became something absolutely horrible.>Selfish>Narcissistic>Petty>Uncooperative>Controlling>Deceitful>irrational>attention seekingI see the wisdom in it being better to live alone in a desert than live with a quarrelsome woman.What women don't realize is men eventually get used to loneliness. Women don't. Women scream in agony as the world becomes indifferent to their existence. It's why they collect as many friends as they can, but women tend to back stab each other. You see paradoxically women treat friends who do the most for them as sacrificial to please new friends because they believe there is no way that such an old friend would leave no matter what they do and they seek to expand new friendships to have a large support base.Then they get mad at the person they betrayed for getting upset with them because they view that person they betrayed as a resource, not a person.Then they play victim when they are abandoned.Then it happens to them and they play victim, but no bidy gives a shit over time.They have nothing to offer, no skills, no personality, no virtues or morals, just non stop "me me me" demands and needs.>TL;DR?>Men can but rather not>Women can't but pretend they can
>>84560093Nah I think I'm just gonna an hero after my parents are gone
>>84560093Yes. I dont know if I should have a partner as i dont think i could give what he needs and deserves. I like to be alone and I like space, and i dont have strong desires for intimacy. I have strong religious inclinations however, and I believe that the most meaningful way to spend your life is in devotion to God. The essence of meaning is God. Why not pursue the essence itself? Why not unite with God? Thats why I often think of becoming a nun. The most meaningful life to me would be a life of devotion.
Absolutely. I already live my life operating under the assumption that I will never have a woman express genuine interest in me, so I must live accordingly.
>>84560093I will get through the rest of my life alone in anycase. But will I be actually happy? No. I just want a cute girl to hug with some big titties to suck on. My needs and desires are very simple and basic but human society and mating is endlessly complex and nuanced so it's very difficult to achieve what I want for myself and there's not even any clear "effort" based way to pursue it. Most of dating is luck in circumstances and proximity/accessibility.
>>84560469jews invented nunneries to stop you from having children
>>84560093no. i used to think i could fine because most of my past relationships or situationships caused me pain and i could never feel really good from being with a girl romantically, it couldnt quench the lonely empty pit inside me. i thought i was built differently from other men, maybe because of autism, or being 'black pilled' on women, but i met a girl a few years ago and even tho she fit all the steriotypes of women, she made my heart and soul melt and i felt comforted with her. she left. and then again with a girl a week or so ago. and then she left. and yeah, life kinda sucks, and barely feels worth living when i am alone like this. with one of these girls, if i spent the rest of my life with them, id want to never die. idk. sorry. bye.
>>84560569Not quite true, but monasteries where marriage and reproduction was not allowed were in part founded so that the church could protects its assets from feudal landlords. Since none of the monks would have children, there would be no inheritance and the church would continue to own the monasteries.
>>84560093No. Need to experience it at least once
I am already unhappy. I did something bad, and my religion says that a marriage is invalidated if I hide character flaws/mental illness/criminal history that is severe enough that the other party would never agree to marriage. I do not think I could trust any woman enough to come clean about it, out of fear of throwing everything away. So I guess I have to be alone. Absolutely sucks.
>>84560093Yes, I'm doing fine alone. I'm not really built for relationshits, too autistic.
>>84560093No. I need love and affection for a qt3.14
>>84560093Probably, my happiness is tied to myself.chaining yourself to others for happiness is the most cucked shit ever.
>>84560093Yes, as long as I have hockey. Even though it has me upset right now
I'm happily married so I guess I'll never know
>>84560093Its easy to say you'd die for something. Someone. When you're young, you haven't lived enough life to know its value so throwing it all away is easy. Its even attractive in a self destructive way, to imagine giving meaning to the short life you know. But as years drag on, the soul is burdened. With the weights of responsibilities, the things that keep you around. Reasons to stay. You might just find things worth living for, things you would fight to get back to. Things you hope to find immortality for. Its not sudden, but I wonder if the realization is. That you are dragging so very much with you every step you take, that you would never believe the small accumulations you made over a lifetime could lead to it. But its here now, and while you may yet one day pass the strains you treasure, you hold the reins as long as you can. And you fight to continue holding the bundle of weights that you have plucked and strung together.
>>84560093100%. Whatever one has appreciation is key. Without it even your perfect match will seem dull in your eyes. A relationship, no relationship. Either way we must make efforts to enrich and enjoy our lives.
>>84561820I intellectually understand and even agree. But the heart, the flesh, yearns for completion and wholeness in another. Our Lord tells us it is not good for man to be alone, we are made to share our experience of the world with a woman by our side. This is reaffirmed when He says go forth and multiply.But we live in a fallen world, we are shy of the perfection we were designed for. So the plan, does not always come to pass
>>84560093No, I'm well aware I cannot. Every day is a disappointment.
>>84560093I don't know about happy and fulfilling because life is fucking shit and even if I had a millonaire playboy life, I would still want to leave this mortal coil. But I could definitely live "a" life
I gave up on trying to meet a man, im done. I just dont have much of my soul left to give away. A year ago i was listening to music with a guy in his car, talking about life, but he was a compulsive liar, lied about literally everything. I havent got anything left in the tank now
>>84562349>Our Lord tells us it is not good for man to be aloneThe same book says that it is also good for those who can make room for singleness to do so (Matthew 19:12 et al) yet also stresses taking the time to chart your course carefully (Luke 14:28) even if one chooses to marry one with similar goals and desires (Ecclesiastes 5:4). Above all you can pray for guidance. Even people of war and violence love to have an eye in the sky with a different perspective. All things are possible but never does it say they are all possible at once.
>>84562514>I gave up on trying to meet a man, im doneWhat were you looking for? Has it been that bad?
>>84560093No and I am very inconveniently going crazier and becoming more weird and unlovable by the day because of it
My wife and I don't sleep in the same bed and it's awesome. People think our relationship is bad but it's good and we get better sleep than them
I'm happy as long as I don't have a toothache.
>>84560093I think it would get lonely in older age once friends and family stop being as prevalent in life. Whether we have waifubots to offset that loneliness in the future remains unknown however.
>>84560124I am also 25 with no experience. I have my family but I am worried but what will happen once I get old.
>>84562557>>Matthew 19:12This is about eunichs, no? I'm not a eunich, my genitals are intact>>Luke 14:28Separate thread but I demonstrated my forward thinking in >>84562296>>Ecclesiastes 5:4Sorry, I don't see the relevance of fulfilling a vow made in a timely manner.I absolutely pray for guidance, but more, I beg for peace in my heart.I ask that if this is not for me to undertake, please don't make it hurt so much. That prayer has not been answered.
>>84562669My snoring keeps my wife up. I do not mind sleeping alone so I don't have to deal with her attitude from being kept up.
>>84562701It's not strictly literal, but also considers those who've practically become that way by choose a life course without romance.As for your linked post, you're making progress. Keep going. Even if the door was opened to you to a course that excluded romance, it is still your choice. Assuming we have even "heard" correctly. Remember we are imperfect and much like a radio can receive a signal but not play the audio clearly, we can hear and misinterpret for a time. Then there are times where we may hear correctly... but it's only meant to be that way temporarily.In the end we receive help not usually on outright miracle. Like being ill one can do all the right things from the start and still have to suffer the healing process. So our pain does not just up and disappear, in no small part due to the way we have much to learn about mastering ourselves.I hurt a lot at 18 and isolated for about a decade, healing. I would go on to make friends and meet girls who reached out to me, despite not being in those places with the goal of making friends. I had long-since made peace with just scaling my wealth, preparing for the future, taking care of those I knew and who were in dire need, as we all aged. But I met people who I thought I ought to give the chance, people who were glad to have found someone with more mature thinking. One of them is far more mature than I am. You're 21 now and like me you'll likely be surprised what doors open by time you're 30. Since you're not isolating like I did, they may even open sooner.
>>84562750Eunich is a literal word, and the original Greek/Aramaic has a separate word for those partaking in voluntary chastity. Forgive me, but I believe this passage is strictly about physical eunichs, either born or created, voluntarily or forced.I'll keep listening, and keep praying. But I can't lie and say every day goes by and it weighs on my spirit. Every day I feel less whole as a person, and thusly less worthy of the companionship I yearn for. I've held on for 21 years. I will continue, so long as I'm blessed to live.As to your last paragraph, heres piece of writing from me a few nights ago. It'd be insulting to art to call it poetry so its really just a string of thoughts>>84561825
>>84562819We'll leave literal and figurative aside then, you see what I mean even without it. One of the girls I may end proposing has seen her best friend and a girl who cheated get married before she did. She doesn't pay a ton of attention to the scriptures but she'd like to do so more, along with cultivating many other qualities that'd make her a much better parent. Keep in mind as well that there are billions of people and thousands of cultures. It just is the case that some will be around many who are willing or take the initiative, while others are not and will have to do more seeking. I put myself out there in spaces centered around a particular interest and that lead to meeting people who reached out to me. It wasn't instant but happened over months. For now my priority is still my financial goals (and both girls already understand I'd like to be better off before starting a family) but it may well end up that I fly to another country, or fly one of them here since I happen to live in a tourist destination. Good things just take time sometimes.
>>84562866Yes I see what you mean and it is a salient point.I'm glad you see someone worth thinking about propositioning to. Unfortunately, the spaces I'm interested in, cars and combat sports, do not lend to female interest. And the ones who are interested, generally lack the temparment and values I'm looking for. (They be hoes and shi)My friend ended up marrying a girl from another state, and she moved here after seeing him only 3 times in person. The flying in thing can totally work, and I hope it does for you robot.I'll be here, wallowing with the sinners.
>>84560093>Do you think you could life a happy or fulfilling life without a romantic partner for the rest of your life?Yes, definitely. I am 100% happy with my interests and my family keeps me company. I live away from my family but I call them from time to time, would visit them if I couldA woman is optional
>>84563107>and my family keeps me company.I meant my dog
>>84560093i don't think i could live a happy life anyway
>Do you think you could life a happy or fulfilling life without a romantic partner for the rest of your life?Not in the least. Sex is the while point of existence. The best thing.Though I, and millions of non-Chads, have been excluded from it forever.Unless we pay for pussy, which is useful, but is also ultimately unfulfilling.
>>84562578Looking for someone to share my life with.Yeah, it's that bad. Im getting better at spotting red flags and just avoiding men entirely. That guy i mentioned would lie for no reason and no gain. Other men were insinuating they'd rape me. One guy on a date mentions his situationship. Just gross bejavious all around. No one is normal, and by normal i mean not a lying rapist with commitment issues.
>>84560093yesunfortunately I learned that after I entered a committed relationship that I see no way out of
>>84564442Is it really that bad? I always felt like it would just be the fuck boy Chad's who have a ton of options that act like that.
