A decent amount of Pope's had children - some from multiple women. Lots of Christian Clergy had concubines until 1550.I never heard atheists skeptics talk about this. There's so much discussion on religion (remember when Jordan Peterson was popular?)Somehow i never heard them debate this. I never knew about this.You'd think a bunch of annoying atheist skeptics would've made youtube videos about this or brought it up in debates. It just never happens?
>>84572337You'd expect at least ONE guy to bring it up during debates with Peterson and other religious people as a big GOTCHA. No?
>>84572337No one is bewildered that this isn't brought up in discussions? That Atheist youtube skeptics haven't made videos about that side of Christianity?
>>84572337>>84572626Even militant atheists know there's no point enumerating the degeneracies of the popes.
>>84572337What do the sex lives of Italian Kings have to do with whether or not there's a giant golden Jew living in the sky watching us?If the implications are that the Popes are magic. They aren't. I invite any pope to perform a magic spell of any type at any time.As the most annoying atheist on /r9k/, I can safely say I don't give a shit about a pope and/or who he fucks. The Vatican is teetering on total irrelevancy. It relies heavily on support from South America and Africa to stay in the media.
>>84572337As far as I know they never said "god suddenly told us to do it this way", it was a strategic decision to ensure wealth and resources stayed in the church. Completely understandable from an institutional point of view.
>Chief goyim of the Jewish cattle movement is a fraudwoweeee next you'll tell me these Abrahamic monsters can't stop themselves from fucking kids.
>>84572337Because the immediate retort will be "hurr durr not in the bible"
>>84573100The pope who ruled when they enforced for real it was caught with a boy sleeping in his bed.(Pope Julius III - they nicknamed the boy ganymede after the myth of Zeus abducting a boy)
>>84573198While discussing marriage, monogamy, polygamy...
>>84574271They always say "it's not in the bible" or "it's not meant to be taken literally" or the new favorite "you didn't read it in full context" whenever they know they're cooked. It's all so predictable.
>>84572337I'm an atheist but I don't see how a pope boinking some sluts 500 years ago matters? Or even if it happened today. Nowhere does it state that their belief system is immediately invalidated if the pope cooms. He's not supposed to, yes, but that doesn't mean the whole thing ends if he crosses a line.
>>84572337I've seen you post this before, but you never say what this proves. And why did clergy suddenly stop having illicit relationships after 1550 (which obviously isn't true)?
>>84572337What are you talking about?The New Testament doesn't establish monks, discusses marriages extensively, and Catholicism was already debunked by Martin Luther 500 years ago.What is there to discuss?
>>84572337As an atheist I am more surprised very few people talk about Jesus having 4 stepbrothers from Joseph having a previous marriage, you cannot tell me that chad wasnt fucking around with the virgin mary
I find it so wild how most of us are going to hell and no one cares. If you don't think everything was created and it's all some blind dumb coincidence you are a manchild. Two factsThere is something instead of nothingYou will die one dayThis information is your main tool to not go to literal fucking hell and be a decent person.
>>84574395Look at this chud virtue signaling on r9k
>>84574395Explain why hell would be a bad place. Why would Satan/the devil/Lucifer/whatever punish you for doing exactly what he wants? The logical answer would be that he would reward you. Hell would be heaven just with a different clientele.
>>84572337I don't bring it up, because I don't bring up anything at all. After you get some experience you understand how the psychology of religion works and you stop "debating" them.
>>84574478Insane bait. Lucifer wants you to be there burning alongside him and you're too much of a midwit to see you're being fooled into going there. >why would hell be bad?The infinite degrees of hotness and fire and brimstone maybe but what do I know.0.0000001 milisecond and everyone who goes there regret it. The wager falls on you. The chance for there to be just blankness after death and no God would mean everything just stuck together and decided to make reality possible. People believe that and call themselves intellectuals? Lmao even. Takes way more faith to believe that
>>84574597Hell doesnt even exist in the bible or in true orthodoxy. Jesus supposedly died for everyones sins if you could believe that. Its all bullshit to me. The catholics invented hell to grift more money to buy forgiveness
>>84574597>Lucifer wants you to be there burning alongside himShow the evidence in the bible where it says that>0.0000001 milisecond and everyone who goes there regret itAgain, show your proof.
>>84572337Yahweh was a pagan god btw>>84574654
>>84574621So you just don't believe anything about christianity. You think it was made up that Jesus said it's better to gauge your eye out than to go to hell, that's your opinon, or to not fear someone who can kill you but to fear God who can destroy your soul and body in hell forever, or the multiple people talking about the lake of fire where the smoke and torment goes on forever, it's all lies? What do you believe in then?I mean come on there must be SOMETHING. You can see the world's made comprensible and interactively created enough for us.
>>84574822Jesus also said "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God". Guess what, even a homeless person today would be considered rich back in those days. So nobody is going to heaven.
because atheists are literally subhumans
>>84572337>Why do Atheists Skeptics not talk about this?a lot of the people atheists debate are evangelicals who are protestants and hate the pope
>>84574845Well yeah that means if you're rich and don't help people poorer than you, you won't go to heaven. Milions of people sitting idly in people's bank accounts while people next to them are starving, yeah checks out. And yeah more people will go to hell than to heaven.
>>84574368The Bible says they were Jesus's brothers, not stepbrothers, because it was written by people who denied Mary staying a virgin forever. After she got knocked up by the Jewish storm god, she was knocked up by Joseph and birthed a few more kids. Amusingly, there is actually both Biblical and historical evidence they tried to lead the church on the basis of being Jesus's family, but the goyim recruited by Paul muscled them out of it and they got too tied up with other Jews who emperor Hadrian smacked down so lost their secular power.
>>84575059Did i really say people instead of dollars
>>84575059No, you're adding a modifier. It clearly just says that the rich won't get into heaven. It says nothing about them being able to if they help those poorer than them. Again, even a homeless person today would be considered rich by the standards back then. No 1st worlder in the last 60-70 years is going to heaven.
>>84574597>2 hours>no evidenceMan I love when they get BTFO and refuse to respond.
>>84572337Why would we need to bring up an obvious biological fact like Popes are just human men with normal human male emotions/needs? Does Christianity even refute this anywhere? Why would we need to bring it up?I'd rather keep mentioning how absolutely retarded and caveman-logic the idea of putting 2 of every animal on a boat during a flood, is.
>>84575129>Again, even a homeless person today would be considered rich by the standards back then. No 1st worlder in the last 60-70 years is going to heaven.Jesus also said that the poor will always be with us, so poverty is relative.
>>84575196>bible contridicting itselfWhat a shock. It's almost like it's all mostly bullshit that was written several decades after Jesus' supposed death, copied by others, translated & copied, etc. Not a single religious person has ever been able to prove their god exists, not a single one.
>>84575129There's literally a story about a guy begging for a drop of water on his tongue in hell after not helping a poor guy. 2026 and people still pretend they're totally oblivious to the bible.
>>84575240I think it's more probable that your take wasn't thought out very well.
>>84575250Prove your god exists. You won't because you can't. If you can't then your entire religion is made up bullshit.
>>84574368Yeah it's kind of weird that the truth is clearly that Jesus was a rape baby. This being the opposite of the "virgin birth" stuff is impossible to handle for the Christian mind. They love saying that Jesus was a good man no matter what when they're on the fence, but recontextualizing to a secular experience leaves some horrible lingering thoughts that breaks them.
>>84572337Why would they? Priests being "celibate" is only a recent choice, doesnt really have anything to do with a god existing or not
>>84575296I'll stop believing in God once you prove to be that America doesn't exist.
>>84575337So you can't prove your god exists. Thanks for admitting I'm right and you're wrong. I accept your concession. Filtered. Reply more, I'll never see it.
>>84575371You're the one who retreated to "prove God exists to me right now." for some reason. I'm just pointing out that your posts are nonsense.
>>84572337>>84572399>>84572626Cause the sexual abuse of children is a much bigger topic against Catholicism. Sexually active priests is just whatever. A lot of protestant pastors already do that and/or cheat on their wives (since celibacy is less of a thing in Protestantism).
why would anyone give a shit if the pope was fuckingfeels like everyone knows leaders have lots of children historically
