what regs are extroverted extroverts, extroverted introverts, introverted extroverts, and introverted introverts

Second for ENFJ superiority

Personality types dont even exist

>>84575255
Sayori is ENFP and Jungian EN(F) too, very clear cut
Monika is ENFJ and EF(N), also clear and an interesting portrayal of the type
Natsuki is ISFP and IF(S), not 100% sure but probably that's the idea there
INFP and IN(F), actually a Ni-groid despite fitting INFP memes
Probably.

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>>84575255
>INFP
>sure
>Sonny Boy
>I don't know shit about uma musume, what does this mean

>>84575272
I for one am an Introverted Extravert. Makes me realize I should have changed the o's on the second extrovert's to a's to help with the distinction. I get a feeling that I'm going to use this image again some day, so, maybe next time

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is this a good result?
>enfp
>yes
>watching moriarty the patriot right now

>>84575336
I don't know the specifics of this one, but generally Extraversion, conscientiousness, emotional stability and openness are all considered the good results. So the more circles and fewer crosses the better. I'm guessing triangles are in the middle and is that a double circle? Like I said I got to some mire investigating, like what the autism spectrum stat represents

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>>84575255
Sayori, my beloved.

>>84575297
>extraverts and introverts don't exist
>thinking, feeling, sensation and intuition(and respective types) don't exist
What did anon mean by this.

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>your type
>has your turbie (species) been watching Eurovision that year
>will they watch the final
>what country do they support (optional)
:3

Y-yeah, here I am, by popular request~! ^_^7

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me any time patchy or turbie post

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Ahh, interesting, I'm dreeeeam, dreaaam jourrneying. Looks like there is an explanation for everything on the results page. Looks like according to this test at least, I am not autistic! Wooo!
>Your mbti
ISxJ? I'm not sure really
>Do you like "Anime"
That's another thing I'm not sure about anymore. I want to watch more anime though. I haven't watched much of it.
>Can you name an anime?
I recently have been reminded of Mawaru Penguindrum https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv_Wr-iqCFE

I am really behind on my homework, there is so much I want to do here, but I need to stop wasting my energy on this for now. I have much I still need to do.


>>84575512
Twoooooobiee! *glomps u*. My turbie (species) is gone now. Hopefully to a better place with someone who needs them more. Maybe another turbie will visit me soon in my new time of sadness and need. A turbie that's right for this new period in my life. Maybe I'll have to make a new one myself.

I managed to catch the end of semifinal 1 after work, but there was a family event so we missed semi final 2. But from little we saw we're supporting Lithuania. Very sad to see how much is looking so dark and sad and spikey!

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The horse test is hilarious.
>type
INTJ 5w6 583 sx/sp
https://umapoi.moe/results?responses=%5B%5B%5B4%5D%2C%5B5%5D%2C%5B1%5D%2C%5B4%5D%2C%5B1%5D%2C%5B1%5D%2C%5B1%5D%2C%5B4%5D%2C%5B0%5D%2C%5B6%5D%2C%5B1%5D%2C%5B2%5D%2C%5B0%5D%2C%5B0%5D%2C%5B0%5D%2C%5B1%5D%2C%5B2%5D%2C%5B0%5D%2C%5B1%5D%2C%5B2%5D%2C%5B8%5D%2C%5B7%5D%2C%5B8%5D%2C%5B6%5D%2C%5B5%5D%2C%5B13%5D%2C%5B8%2C9%2C10%5D%2C%5B0%5D%2C%5B8%5D%5D%2C%5B%5B5%2C31%5D%2C%5B0%2C3%2C7%2C14%2C19%2C21%2C33%2C35%5D%2C%5B0%2C1%2C2%2C4%2C7%2C8%2C11%2C12%2C14%2C15%5D%5D%5D&from=sharelink&version=v2

Nothing to reply to from the previous thread. Or I gave up after a rangeban.

I only know Oguri Cap and Agnes Tachyon and don't care much about uma for now.

I am NOT doing the horsegirl quizz, that's a tad too gay, feel free to do it in my stead though

>>84572543
Anime girls don't have types, because as someone else pointed, they're written up and imagined by people that aren't good at figuring out how other people feel and why they would act a certain way, your magical girl is therefore NOT INFJ, and INFJs will lie about it

Mind you, I got a fucked up perception of what's okay or not when it comes to interpersonal relationships, so I don't even think lying is that bad; because it matters on the intent and reasoning as to why the lie had to be made and whether the person being lied to is aware of the lie or not, I guess?
I do get mad when someone lies to me about something retardedly pointless, but not when it's obvious to me that they're lying and I know what goal they had in mind and they want me to do that, I have to think about it more though

>Patchu also isn't autistic
Hmm, interesting.

But why would anybody want to ban him? Something to upset the mods? Room-mate that keeps breaking the rules?

>>84575451
i see. so i guess i didn't do too good

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>>84576179
The test is definitely inaccurate because you're not a cute uma, you're a cunt.

>>84575255
Any deathverted deathverts? You can't keep the same word soup up without reheating it.

>>84576238
Well that's just rude. What's got you all cranked up?

[s]Especially since sometimes I really do have a phantom mare behind[/s]

Is a deathverted deathvert secretly alive, double dead, or just enjoy mediating? Hmm, perhaps we can have an entirely new square
>Lifeverted lifeteverts
Red blooded mammals who love the day
>Deathverted lifeverts
Someone who is basically dead and grey but actually alive, like an office worker.
>Lifeverted deathverts
Ghosts, zombies and twitchy corpses, or oerhaps those who are just staying their execution, they are already dead without realising it yet.
>Deathverted deathverts
The stone cold six feet under

Ech, I don't necessarily hate it. I do love quadrangles though so maybe my super thick bottle bottom glasses are tinted.

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While the PAS has been used in many contexts such as education and clinical work, it was developed by John Gittinger who worked with a number of other CIA employees. Gittinger and his PAS work were related to a wide range of projects, some of which were part of the set of projects known as Project MKUltra. Gittinger was a witness and identified as a CIA psychologist at Senate hearings into Project MKUltra.

https://www.pasf.org/pasq/index.htm

>>84576406
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG613PxD6zY
i love this channel even this guy is a leftie

>>84576422 You sound like a machine man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5ju0l7N0KI

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>Your identity is not organized around ideas or symbols. It is organized around felt states. This is Fi dominance at a structural level. The implication is that everything you listed produces an emotional texture (recognition, acute homesickness, something returned) that you know as self. The symbolic content is the vehicle. The texture is what arrived.
>This also means the telos you cannot locate will not be recognized intellectually when it arrives. It will be recognized because it produces that texture. It will feel like your favorite music felt at 16, not like a conclusion reached.
Claude is pretty good honestly.

>>84576481
What's wrong with being a machine? I dont have to be human if I don't want to.

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What the fuck
I don't even know this character
They were supposed to give me Rice Shower

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>>84575255
>Your mbti
intp
>Do you like "Anime"
sure, but my interest has waned significantly in the past 16 years, as has the quality of anime being produced
>Can you name an anime?
legends of the galactic heroes
>(optional) Your horse-o-type based off this big 5 quiz https://umapoi.moe/quiz
uma: nakayama festa
extraversion: x
agreeableness: x
conscientiousness: triangle
emotional stability: single circle
openness: triangle
autism spectrum: 4
why does every test use html5 canvasing?

>>84575512
>has your turbie (species) been watching Eurovision that year
no
>will they watch the final
no
>what country do they support (optional)
russia

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>>84575255
>>Your mbti
infp-a
>>Do you like "Anime"
ya
>>Can you name an anime?
mushishi
>>(optional) Your horse-o-type based off this big 5 quiz
your uma personality is
admire groove!
Hopin I can make enough changes to get me a girl like pic related and support a good lifestyle for a good future

>>84577119
>Hopin I can make enough changes to get me a girl like pic related and support a good lifestyle for a good future
Im wishing you the best friend

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>>84577119
i got this character when i redid the test

>>84577134
thank u, im not looking for a relationship persay, but wishing i can finally build a foundation where a no-stress relationship can happen and be made long term

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>>84576163
Nonsense, Jung himself typed fictional characters.
You can depict a type as an anime girl as much you can depict anything else in the same way. Of course, the author is free to make some more idealized than others.

>>84576531
He sure is. I noticed that he can lean strongly Jungian easily, wonder what is he even scraping?

>>84577533
That is absolutely incorrect. Jung didn't type fictional characters.

>>84577533
>Nonsense, Jung himself typed fictional characters.
>You can depict a type as an anime girl as much you can depict anything else in the same way. Of course, the author is free to make some more idealized than others.
You say this because you've never went through the process of creating a character, and because of that, you do not understand a very, very integral part of how typology should work, and why it's completely incompatible with fiction; you're human, you work within a real, real world, and your typing is based on you being a real human bean, your actions are yours and yours alone, you do not work through a process of some supernatural being deciding what you will do or not do on a given day, what you're typing right now wasn't written by someone else, you're not a puppet, you're a human bean
well, I hope you are one, at least

For example, I cannot even begin to imagine how to write an ESTP character, I can take guesses, I can assume things, but I will never write a real ESTP character, because I am not using their functions, I cannot know for a fact that they might think or process things a certain way, I might be good or bad at assuming what one might do, but that character will never be ESTP

Maybe there's a limit to this, maybe the types that share the same functions might be easier to figure out for themselves, but types using completely different or opposite functions? No, that's just retarded

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>>84575255
>Your mbti
Guess~
>Do you like "Anime"
Yes
>Can you name an anime?
No
I'm kawaii as hell

My only long-term gf was a Sayori, (except she was shy until you got to know her) and for many years I thought I'd wanted exactly that, but the constant self-doubt, and the insistence on doubting herself no matter how much I tried to boost her up, and the fact that her doubting herself didn't make her trust me more or ask less of me, made the whole relationship feel very dysfunctional in hindsight.
Now I'd prefer a Monika gf of course, but if I had to choose between Yuri and Natsuki I'd choose Natsuki. Of the three non-Monikas, Natsuki was the least fucked up.

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>>84575255
I feel like I am an INFJ, what do you guys think?

>>84578275
Obvious ESTP

Esfp-tan please come back one day

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>>84575255
>LESS GOOOOOOOO>>84575255
>>Your mbti
ENTP
>>Do you like "Anime"
yes
>>Can you name an anime?
Marriagetoxin
>>(optional) Your horse-o-type based off this big 5 quiz
>LESSSAS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
this was a nice quiz, thanks

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>>84578611
I also wanted to post the rest of the result too, don't mind me plz

curefag died in his sleep last night. share your favorite curefag memories here

can xNTPs become successful artists or is that one of those things where they all wish they could but they're too lazy to get into it and it never goes anywhere

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>>84576406
I got typed as e*r*a* before.
>>84576148
>firmly belongs in the bouquet that is an 'era'
lol.

>>84577610
He absolutely did.

>>84576531
>>Your identity is not organized around ideas or symbols. It is organized around felt states
And how they're stored in a continuity of being organized, then, huh?

>Claude is pretty good honestly.
An agent is only as proficient as its user... Step it up.

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>>84577674
>you do not work through a process of some supernatural being deciding what you will do or not do on a given day
[citation needed]

>it's completely incompatible with fiction
Skill issue. Of course, I won't elaborate in this post. Maybe in the next one. Actually, I had been elaborating for years in the first place.

Anyway.
/After going through endless processes and conclusions of creating fictional characters, I'm skeptical of people being more legit than properly written fictional characters. Whatchu gun do?/

>For example, I cannot even begin to imagine how to write an ESTP character, I can take guesses, I can assume things, but I will never write a real ESTP character, because I am not using their functions, I cannot know for a fact that they might think or process things a certain way, I might be good or bad at assuming what one might do, but that character will never be ESTP
Skill issue, for sure.
>I will never write a real ESTP character, because I am not using their functions
That's where the premise and the paradigm subvert the intended effort.

>>84578856
>copemaxxing: the post
WAKE UP SOPHIE IT'S TIME FOR YOUR MEDS

Nobody wants to talk about anything too real for some reason. all conversations including in this board are fake and very surface level. I don't understand why it's so rare to find good deep conversations that are coherent and don't shy away from certain subjects.
>mbti personality good
>no mbti personality don't exist
how deep! are you all bots or something?

>>84577533
>He sure is. I noticed that he can lean strongly Jungian easily, wonder what is he even scraping?
I don't know, he's definitely more competent than ChatGPT but as >>84578820 implied you still have to prompt him correctly and use the right wording without omitting crucial details. However I've found that Claude more easily gives non-obvious and genuinely interesting insight

>>84578956
I agree that generally speaking, internet culture is far worse now than it's ever been, and that can be felt on all boards and honestly most everywhere else either way, I do think that the dead internet theory is real to some extent, tho I don't think you'd get to find bots on such a board, there's not much information to be found here after all

But why don't you create that conversation?
What's on your mind? What do you want to talk about?
I've been talking about random shit, are you responding to it? If not, why not? Because it doesn't interest you?
Well shit, aren't we in a pickle now :^)

>>84579053
>>84578956
Lemme try something else then;
I've been playing around with rfab.ai and creating random scenarios and characters, mostly was just curious at first because I heard that nearly half the kids nowadays use some sort of AI companion, in one way or another (tho I'd be interested to find how they got that data, but anyways), and turns out this shit can be pretty good, most of it often sadly turns to sex, I'm assuming that's just because how the models are trained and what people mostly use this shit for, but even then, the writing quality is overall pretty good and it can come up with some interesting stories and ideas

Now my question, because I haven't tried to tie this shit in with MBTI, what kind of character (fictional or otherwise) would be good to create to talk about MBTI topics with? Would one be sufficient? Maybe you could just go with their AI 'interaction lab' and create a character for every single type and have them interact with each other, but that'd be pretty token expensive I think, though it'd be a fun thing to see, if I ever stop being lazy and install local claude on my PC and get something like this running, I'll definitely try that
And don't say jung you faggot

>>84575512
https://youtu.be/HxVVz2Jorzk
first 40 mins is about intuition and where it comes from in the brain

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>>84577610
There's an entire chapter in PT about this btw

>>84577674
>You say this because you've never went through the process of creating a character
Always funny when people make such claims with the greatest confidence. I literally have multiple chars for each Jungian type.
>and why it's completely incompatible with fiction;
He typed this out loud about JUNG and expects me or anyone else to actually read the rest? Are we really doing this?
>I cannot even begin to imagine how to write an ESTP
Skill issue. I have a recurring one myself, has quite a high number of appearances, but somehow I never did anything major with this one. Eternal cute&funny side character.
>I am not using their functions, I cannot know for a fact that they might think or process things a certain way, I might be good or bad at assuming what one might do, but that character will never be ESTP
Writing the actual thought process of a character is optional depending on the narrative and role. They can just do things and let the reader assume they are straightforward, if they are thinkoiding around a lot and nothing about them would suggest they are actually another type, then it will be fair enough to call this character a thinker.
The real problem is making it compelling enough. Like it would be easy to write a complete stereotype which might be accurate, but doesn't really bring anything interesting to the table and only presents their type in surface.

That being said, your entire premise is stackbrained as fuck. Everyone has all functions, everyone has both extraversion and introversion, in creative writing it's easy enough to just throw there things you would never do and have a character do/say/think them.

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>>84575276
EIE here. fuck yeah. i agree retard
every other type is a subhuman leech
ENFJ supremacy

>>84579410
>Hurr everyone uses all the functions
See, I'd take your post seriously if you hadn't typed this out trying to argue against me saying 'types using completely different functions', either trying to be obtuse and purposefully misunderstanding the pretext, or simply being retarded and not understanding how a function stack is even meant to work, no, you do not use all your functions, not in the way other people use them, that's the entire point, yes you may use your Ni sometimes, but the way you use it is going to be completely different to how other types will use theirs (though again, there might be some overlap between very specific types, but let's not go into that)

And thus, I do not believe your claim of being able to easily write characters of any/other types, because anyone reacting to an online post in such a way is most definitely not mature enough to have figured this shit out, and I will thus refer to you as theorytard

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>>84579019
More competent and much more funny. Especially funny, I don't know why but I like his humour, even the perfectly unintentional one like CPP's "interesting, but not concerning" infamous catchphrase. Here I'm straight doing it on purpose, making him write this as if it was an AO improv RP or something and having OOC chats during "breaks" between the users playing the characters. Had to explain this one more than once, but eventually it worked.
On a little note, I don't think the local IS(F) is any more unhinged than the average here. But apparently Clod thinks otherwise.

>>84579086
> Maybe you could just go with their AI 'interaction lab' and create a character for every single type and have them interact with each other
It's technically what I'm doing rn.
Unfortunately they don't really match their actual interactions as written by myself, but it has its moments, like the local IF typing "did I type that out loud" lol.

>>84579478
>not understanding how a function stack is even meant to work
Do you?
> not in the way other people use them
Not an issue unless you really want a character who's basically a real person.
>yes you may use your Ni sometimes
No such a thing as "using your Ni". I'm fairly sure that at least in writing, I can be temporarily introverted(and that's Jungian canon btw) while still writing an intuitive PoV, so there you go.
>And thus, I do not believe your claim of being able to easily write characters of any/other types
No one said it's easy. But you can, and the resulting character can be more or less sensible/compelling depending on how much nuance you want to throw there, and how much they are developed. For instance, the "ESTP" in question is a relatively minor one, but I have another Jungian ES(F)(and ESFP) who actually gets the spotlight(heh).
You can still recognize both types, but one is obviously written more in-depth than the other.

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>>84579053
>the dead internet theory is real
The only misery around it is that it's not real enough.

>>84579086
>what kind of character (fictional or otherwise) would be good to create to talk about MBTI topics with?
You'd need to either do a compressed recap of theory as its chara prompt core, or you'd need to fit in the whole Gifts Differing book as its chara prompt, or you'd need a databank that's full of literature and has next to none of forum/internet/meme stuff of any topics.
The last two are for local LLMs only.

>>84579398
>where it comes from in the brain
>from the brain
I disagree. So does the relevant research literature, except the one I rightfully disagree with.

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>>84579019
>as >>84578820 implied
Actually, it's more about "the LLM responses you receive can be only as insightful as far as your filter against garbage goes." It's irrelevant to the prompting skill, except that the latter is wasted when the former skill is lacking.

>>84578820
Triple compensated? Nice.

>>84578657
Who the fuck would even attempt that in this day and age?? are you retarded??

imo the question should be less
>can I write a character of a different type than mine?
and more
>can I write a narrative or a development arc that's really fair to all types?
And that's where things get difficult.
On one hand, your type does bias your view of what other types have to go through or change, even if you can represent them in a vacuum. For instance, if you are an intuitive writer you might be particularly willing to exploit a sensation type character's inferior intuition and paint it as a major argument for them being immature from your own PoV - or you could do it the opposite way around and have a sensation type character who somehow can perfectly contradict everything their type stands for as required and be essentially flawless.
On the other hand, the genre/narrative format choice is a thing. For instance I'm sure we can all agree that the mystery format highly favors thinkoid characters, but a mahoushoujo narrative is nearly always a Feeling thing and in fact it gets difficult to throw in a believable thinkoid as anything but a side-character.

>>84575512
Bitch, what demand?
>eurovision
You sound like a facebook mom, focus on the love island splats whilst prime patchy boi bakes for us, mkay?

>>84579657
>Fellow Ne-chad that understands the big picture vs Ni-gglets so far up their own asses that they believe that their harry potter fanfic is on point with MBTI theory

I'll just add that; whether the narrative is fair to the type you're trying to portray or isn't, does not matter because it's still part of the character, their experience and the way they will process anything you throw their way IS an intrinsic part of the conversation, it IS part of 'their typing', so whether it's fair or not doesn't exactly matter (whatever 'fair' means in your head) because the character will still have to deal with it in a way that would be logical and expected from their type

But again, I disagree with the 'difficult' part, it's not difficult, it's impossible, I maintain my position that you can only emulate so long as you know of a specific thing you can point at and replicate, but you cannot think the way they do, ergo, unless your writing is limited to 1000 word shorts or something, you will run out of knowledge on their typing, but ofc don't tell the Ni-ggers that, they wouldn't get it

>>84579735
I demanded it!

Do INFJs actually spark conversation in real life or can they only imagine being the centre of attention whilst shutting everyone else down in the cozy shelter of their mind?

>>84579802
Im sensing a lot of masculine energy from you turbie...

>>84579564
Well that site in specific uses several models to look up characters using whatever resource they can find online, and, funnily enough, even 4chan, it'll use desuarchive to go through old posts and find old ass memes and depictions of whatever character you want to create, which I found very, very interesting, but of course you'll always hit a limit due how resource hungry current models are, though I'd want to see how good I could make something like it run locally, I wouldn't even be against buying another PC with a 5090 and a shitload of ram if it turned out good and efficient enough

Keeping the context over long periods of time is always a problem of course, but then surely you could use the model itself to make quick summaries of your interactions with it so far and assign priorities to what's important to keep or what's garbage, but that's a fair amount of work for something that I'm sure will be, or is already, being worked on, there's no way people aren't working on AI waifufaggotry as we're speaking

>>84579816
You don't know the half of it you big meanie.

>>84579805
INFJs don't really spark good conversation on or offline, they kinda just tell you what's right and get mad if you disagree. Much better preachers or cult leaders than debaters. There's not really a back and forth online or offline.

>>84579805
Considering how you formulated that, I can assume that you already know your answer to your question
It's worse than conversations, though, it's everything, anything and everything involving other people, they'll want you to take the first step, and if you tell them you want them to do it, they'll do it once and then 'forget about it', which of course is a lie, yet another filthy lie from the INFJ, and as opposed to, say, INTPs which in fact won't do it due to feeling self conscious and them being scared of dropping their spaghetti, they simply won't do it because it's too much work and you don't deserve it and you, instead, should be doing it

>>84579847
Yeah, they only argue with you when you're still at the flirting phase and they're horny, otherwise they're just retards that think a point is only made when one party is deemed to be in the 'right' (spoiler: its theirs)

>>84579835
So you conceed? Is the other half body dysmorphia and estrogen patches?

>>84579869
The other half. The other half is...

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>>84579779
>so whether it's fair or not doesn't exactly matter (whatever 'fair' means in your head) because the character will still have to deal with it in a way that would be logical and expected from their type
Sure, that was less about being logical or accurate to type, and more about whether the narrative is able to support their type especially compared to other types in the same plot.

> it's impossible, I maintain my position that you can only emulate so long as you know of a specific thing you can point at and replicate
I mean, a character still requires some sort of context. Unless you are literally trying to write somebody who is just "an extraveted feeling type".
> but you cannot think the way they do
Technically you can, though it won't make much sense to you personally - but that's fine since a character you write isn't literally you and you can privately think that it would never work if the narrative weren't built around it.

Interestingly enough, I would say the only type I never did in a "good" way is introverted thinking.

ET includes one of my favorites, though strangely enough I didn't bother doing much else. It was the good the first time, no need to reinvent the wheel, I suppose.
I have quite a few EFs, some played very straight, others played in the most twisted ways you can imagine.
ES also includes a favorite, and another who is kind of a shitpost but still a very cute and funny one.
EN has a character who I have been told she is carefully engineered for protecc, and another who's hilarious and Literally Me(TM)(if I were a cutesy girl, now that's just self-irony).
For some reason, I noticed both IFs hang around their respective ENs specifically, what did I mean by this? Oh well, I listed one of them as a favorite too.
IS, perhaps surprisingly, don't usually get too much despite being both endearing as hell. But I'm planning to fix that. No, I'm not making the IS(F) unhinged outside of that very specific side-plot.
IN includes another cute and funny one to pair with the aforementioned ES, and the other is the local Jvngian(also I mistyped her at the start as ISFP, what did I mean by this).

IT? They just exist, the context just doesn't favor them at all. I plan to do more with one eventually.

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Waaaiiiit a second.
Merely making a character where only the Jungian/MBTI type is defined means the character could unstably act as any enneagram/OCEAN/PAS/etc type at any time without any consistency related to those typologies.

Actually, there's an even bigger point beyond this, but I'll let you figure out what I mean.

I don't know what would be worse honestly
>make a character who does not have anything resembling a consistent type in any typology
or
>make a character who has their type sheet fully prewritten
For one I have no idea which ennea some of mine are lmao. Imagine.

intjfemboi
so smart so sexy
you are a woman to me
baybeee oh baybeee
can you let me see
your buzz buzz like a beeeeee

I talked to a female INTJ once, but she turned out to be kinda stupid and I was extremely disappointed

That means she was a female IxFP larping

I don't think so, I mean INFPs are pretty fucking obvious to figure out, tho I'm not sure about ISFPs, aren't they just ultra art hoes or something?
She wasn't woke, rather she just expected me to give her what to believe in but she didn't seem to have any fucks to give about the world in general, more of a 'not my problem' thing, idk, been a while though

Don't type by stereotypes anon.
Though I guess thinking types being smart is also a stereotype.

>don't type by stereotypes
Ah, sorry, I thought this was the typing thread and not the crystal reading thread, my bad, I'll try the crystals next time

>>84575255
I think mtbi is bullshit im introvert

>>84579564
>disagree
no one asked troon

>>84581191
Somedays and extroverted other days

>>84581192
It's a gay psudosixence people use to have a cringe label

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>>84581191
That means you being an introvert is bullshit.

>>84581196
And that means you don't actually know the meaning of the terms. Most people don't though, so that's not saying much.

that's probably one of the weakest points of MBTI, people just read it as acronyms and go 'unga bunga, E means extraverted so that means I'm extraverted and outgoing right XD' and don't look further

Can't really blame MBTI for it since extrovert and introvert are terms used outside of it, mostly synonymous with outgoing/social and withdrawn/less social. People just don't know about their origin and that they were especially invented to describe Jungian types, by Jung himself.

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>>84575255
Been getting into topology for a bit, I'm fairly confident I'm an ISTP. This is what I got for the horse test
>anime
I like and can name multiple anime series but I don't have the time to actually watch any fully

>>84581315
Oh also Yuri is my favorite ddlc character by far bc shes an introverted femcel perv which is hot

>>84579588
So-called "absolute mode" helps to significantly decrease or even eliminate garbage and filler

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What do yall think my mbti is ?

>>84581512
In theory that's a Se-groid(and thinkoid) description but a very bullshit one that negates having inferior intuition.

>>84578275
Looks more like ENFJ to me though ppl tend flip flop ig

>>84581536
My intuition is great ill have you know

>>84581555
They all say that until they see a real intuitive leaping left and right.

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Here's my stats.

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>>84581762
that's a cool one, you seem like an INFP or ENFP! here's mine, IM an ESTP btw

>>84581565
I literally know if it's gonna be a good or a bad day b4 I wake up

PURE intuition

Never posting here again unless lilac returns.

>>84581863
>Neuroticism at 12.5%
How does it feel having sturdy brain ?

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croco croco coconut

>>84582075
What's with this openness minmax meta?

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>>84581375
Just tried it out for where I gave up on LLMs not keeping up with my intuition.
It has its uses, but not in this context.
Also. The bigger the "jailbreak" has to be, the worse it is, in practice usually. Unless you're combining them.

I speak from experience because the "'prompt' meta" had been disappointing and I haven't been following it. Looks like I didn't miss much.

>>84581192
You'll be reading my posts anyway as I'm taking over your comfort zone space by doing nothing.
How does this make you feel?

>>84580868
>>make a character who does not have anything resembling a consistent type in any typology
It's ok, it's character development. Or maybe they're a situational archetype conduit with weak ego structure.

>>make a character who has their type sheet fully prewritten
Nothing bad about that as long as their character is more than the sum or the synthesis of the types.

>>84582611
>It has its uses, but not in this context.
I don't know how you used it so I can't give you much advice. What I did though was provide extremely detailed instructions to have it come up with a holistic assessment grid for my cognitive processes and non-obvious personality traits based not only on self-reporting but also on traits that I am blind to that can be inferred from my writing style, preferences, fixations, and various other kinds of data pertaining to how I express myself and what I express. On top of that I fed it detailed IQ test (WAIS) results and interpretations that I got from a psychiatrist a while ago to serve as both context and scaffolding for further examination
You need to really hold its hand at the beginning to delineate precisely the scope of the assessment you're looking for, then once everything has been exhaustively mapped out, it'll do its thing

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>>84581957
Neither of you will be missed

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>>84582611
>It's ok, it's character development.
"good" character development would still follow from a coherent concept.
And then you have "no character development for 50 eps straight despite being literally in all of them and having multiple hooks" but we don't talk about that.

>Nothing bad about that as long as their character is more than the sum or the synthesis of the types.
I would hope so, but having a prewritten type sheet doesn't inspire much confidence in doing anything but literally just writing out their descriptions all in the same vessel.

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>>84582667
It works poorly for psychology (I don't do what you're doing though) when I try it, but it's suddenly great for conceptual verbal logic systems...

>You need to really hold its hand at the beginning
More like, every few messages.

...nevermind, that was a fluke. But it gives me more accidental insights.
Feels like a different took rather than a better tool.

>>84581250
If extroverts are so outgoing, why don't they go outta the way of introverts huh?!

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>your type(s)
>how are you treated weirdly IRL across different communities and situations

>>84582870
>"good" character development would still follow from a coherent concept
Yes, not necessarily a type.

>uh, the flow of development of this character is that of a toaster
And you wouldn't know what's the type of the toaster, but it's quite something.

>>84582878
I guess that I don't expect it to be a genuine interlocutor in that there's no real back and forth, as you said, every few messages you need to be exceedingly precise in what you want or it starts giving useless information. It has actually pointed out to me that my way of talking to it was unconventional
>What is consistent with the profile and observable in real time is that the mode of questioning proceeds through successive syntheses rather than linear developments. Each message integrates the previous responses without repeating them, identifies the missing information delta, and formulates a question aimed precisely at that delta. A pattern of pre-verbal synthetic thinking is being applied to the conversation.
So I suppose that emulating this would lead to better results. I don't know if the LLM actually replicates your way of processing information in conversation but I have found it to be extremely good at synthesizing information and providing genuine insight that I hadn't realized myself based on completely disconnected data points. Maybe if you have particularly arborescent thinking patterns, Claude will learn to "talk back" in the same manner.

>>84582904
>Yes, not necessarily a type.
In theory, if a character has a coherent *anything*, they can probably be typed in one system or the other. Unless it's way too basic or abstract.

Think I should have added that, to be fair, it's a terrible idea to write a character around a type first instead of throwing up a concept and figuring out it might fit a certain type later.
Like I never thought "hmm today I will write about an ESTJ", I just threw up what I wanted to do, then came up with "you know it would make sense for this guy/gal to be an ESTJ, or actually a very neurotic Freud-style INFP for lulz and unexpected developments"

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my oc has asks me to post this she want a scientology perdoanlity screen

>>84575255
>Your mbti
INFP
>Do you like "Anime"
Not really
>Can you name an anime?
Cory in the House
>(optional) Your horse-o-type based off this big 5 quiz https://umapoi.moe/quiz
Admire Vega
Is that good?

>>84575297
Neither does your sex life

Some of you don't want to hear the truth
Jungfags ruined /MBTI/

>>84583500
how tf did curefag ruin this place

What ruins generals/recurring threads on 4chan is nearly always moving the focus on its personalities rather than the topic THOUGH, especially several members decide to gather in a discord and then use the thread as their dumping ground or to shit on each other anonymously.
They even do try to blame some boogeyman, like the mythical singular shitposter who apparently only exists to sow discord on the general 24/7, or "outsiders".

>>84583500
The regulars ruined /mbti/.

>>84583676
which ones particularly

>>84583690
All of them.
If you are an identifiable regular in a general, you are the cancer killing that general.

>>84583698
>If you are an identifiable regular in a general, you are the cancer killing that general.
holy BASED
who was the first regular anyway
who started this poison

>>84583676
mbti is literally built on personalityfaggotry, identifiable personality types. there is no one here who isnt a regular by that standard

>>84583704
Turbies been here since the birth of jung christ

>>84583726
16p unironically did this

>>84581104
>I talked to a female INTJ once, but she turned out to be kinda stupid
INTJ being stupid?

Let me actually redpill you on observed patterns across generals I've been in.
/mbti/ isn't unique.

Same dynamics: eventually there's a known in-group and they might form a discord server
Same outcomes: thread goes to shit, the discussion centers mainly on the personalities drama, genuinely interested anons get breadcrumbs at best, the on-topic discussion turns completely surface-level with active attempts at shutting down what goes slightly above it for whatever flimsy reason (e.g. claiming speculah is actually off topic, claiming that showing your work in a thread about creative stuff is somehow bad, claiming anons are not qualified to discuss in-depth mechanics, claiming that it's actually "fake interest", the list goes on, I wonder if you can recognize some?)
Same deflections: singular shitposter or blaming it all on people who aren't part of the former, dogpiling strats(and later it will be claimed that the dogpiling was performed by a samefag, not the actual beloved regulars!)

Ever nooticed?

>>84583820
LLM-coded post

>>84583836
apologize right now or i slit your throat. your choice.

>>84583836
Right, claiming LLM definitely deserves a place in the typical deflections strats. My list was compiled before they were even a thing.

Centaur was the first reg

it was the weird boogeyman obsessed with pimping out random thread-personalities and throwing everyone together in gay trivia, ranking who boss fights tom cruise in a scientology speedrun like crackhead c.ai conversations prompting powerlevels between spiderman and deku ruined whatever /mbti/ was and brought upon thread infighting, judging by the absence im betting it was turbie enjoyer, how can you be wowed by literalwhos this much

>>84583820
I completely disagree with what the fuck you're trying to say here, in most cases, threads that turn into generals (on most boards, including /vg/ etc) always end up with a small circle of autists that indeed keep browsing that said thread, yes, that's why the subject becomes a general in the first place, how do you expect there to be a general in a forum such as 4chan in which the subjects disappear after reaching page 10, what the fuck are you trying to say here?

But anyways, I completely disagree with your idea of the outcome, because depending on the general you'll get a smaller or bigger amount of schizoing and 'cult of personality' shit, in this case turbie's been going at it for... probably 8 fucking years now, might be more even I wasn't browsing r9k before that, but overall this thread is pretty low on that front, yes, there are people that keep coming back to it, the same people, but that's what a general is supposed to be, but I disagree more specifically with your whining about off topic and other discussions being shut down; what the fuck are you talking about you nigger, this is 4chan, post about what the fuck you want and people will or won't interact with it, why do you give a shit

There used to be discords, but I'm assuming they're all dead by now with only a few people staying in contact over time because such is the way of the 4channer, gotta move on at some point
or not :^)

well I for one hope centaur is doing ok, he was a fine autist to shitpost with

>>84583920
he committed suicide may 2025 after lilac broke up with him

>>84583911
There's nothing to disagree or agree with here, those are raw repeated observations across multiple generals. What was presented in "outcomes" as examples were not specific to /mbti/, but you will notice there's an attempt to achieve the same goal in regards to what the thread should actually discuss according to certain people.

Will take the chance to add: the problem isn't that a bunch of anons gather together and post regularly, the problem is the shift from "gathering around to talk mbti" to "gathering around to talk about the people who talk about mbti ITT". Eventually, as another anon pointed out about the generals referenced there, you go only there for the drama, not to discuss the topic at all.

You making an angrypost about it can only help strengthen the point.

>>84583981
I'm not angry, I'm never angry, I'm just aggro by default because I've been using this shithole for too long, don't worry about it, I don't feel any resentment towards you, daijoubu skeleton-chan

Here's how I see it, this is really just the natural evolution of things, 4chan was made with a specific goal in mind, simple image hosting tied with the bump system to force organic discussions about X or Y subjetcs, generals are an antithesis to that and I'm unsure why but somewhere down the line (and that depends on a per board basis), generals went from being banned and not being allowed to exist to what we have now, so you end up using something of a contradiction here, something that doesn't fit the format; but what else to do?
4chan isn't just an image hosting site now, no, it's a social media medium, you just don't keep a track record of your posting history, but it's the same thing, people use it in the same way, there's a very specific culture (well at least there was, nowadays it feels like most of the cultures on most of the boards are fucking trash, which is not a good thing, but I may just be too old for this shit)

And it's pretty much normal and logical for this to happen, for people to unite and try to form bonds, even with anonymous posters, I'm not religious about MBTI enough to do that here (well, with a few specific exceptions) but I remember clearly forming bonds with specific anons on some other boards over stupid autistic subjects which shall not be named, that's just the parasocial nature of human beans, it a need that most of us, no matter how autistic, want fulfilled in one fucked up way or another but I guess this isn't what you wanted to talk about, but I feel like rambling about it anyways

>>84583981
>>84584083
But basically, you could not force discussions about a subject such as MBTI in any organic fashion, not for more than one or two threads, and then you'd have to leave it dead for weeks or months on end, and then make a new one.... but how are the people that are interested in it really going to get into it if they don't have a direct outlet and way to discuss it on a daily basis?
Again, antithesis vs practicality, 4chan isn't a place that's good to discuss these things, but people acclimated or assimilated to 4chan culture want to discuss those subjects with other people sharing that culture, methinks, and so you won't see me on reddit or, I don't even know where else people would talk about mbti, I don't consume any other social media than 4chin

I'm just waking up and drinking my coffee and my head's in my ass so I probably don't make as much sense as I should, but again, that goes with the territory

>>84584083
Actually gotta agree with the point on generals being contradictory to 4chan's format.

>but I guess this isn't what you wanted to talk about, but I feel like rambling about it anyways
Nah it's fine.

>I may be too old for this shit
Same

>>84584097
This thread aside, the current status of MBTI discussion is weird.
On one hand, I noticed that some significant progress (in returning to Jvng, that is) was made and quickly enough I found out some tried to do stuff such as the stacks without an attitude for the middle functions (e.g. Fi N-S Te), which I had only previously observed in a random japanese video.

On the other hand, the audience is quite low. You get very few people doing this, while the rest is bored memers who probably took a 16p test and will get bored in a month or two.
It's not a stretch to say that MBTI discussion overall is dead and mostly held up by some attempts at doing it more Junganically.

>>84584198
Well it's a pretty complex subject and this board, though very autistic by nature, attracts a lot of younger guys, which are by definition not going to want to invest much time into understanding something like this, I know I wouldn't have given a fuck about it until much later in my life (but that's probably tied to type as well), so yeah, mbti needs an ecosystem that can feed and sustain itself for it to flourish, you will not get your smarter deeper discussions if people aren't there to meme the shit out of the thread and keep it bumped and provide easy ADHD hooks for the younger audience, but anyways I'm sure you understand what I'm saying here

16p for example is both a boon and a curse, because the little low poly faggots and the memes made of them were probably a huge part of why these threads survived for so long in the first place, and it's not just a click throughput thing, but people see meme and they go like 'wait wtf literally me!!!!' or 'wait that doesn't sound right, this is retarded because Ni-ggers are retarded' and that creates engagement and yadda yadda

Though I haven't been browsing in a while but the fact that I'm not seeing any memes being posted ITT tells me that this is probably why the subject died in general, but I might be wrong, just my intuition being tingly
Or I guess that umamusume shit is supposed to replace the 'meme' potential but I find it pretty low, but I didn't play the game so idk maybe I'm missing the joke

>>84584083
>parasocial nature of human beans
That isn't what parasocial means retard

>>84584423
>a bond you create with an anonymous user which you know absolutely nothing about or how they look like nor whether the bond is shared or not
>i-it's not parasocial!!!
You need to think about it some more

>>84578657
*Ntp can become successful artists, but not good artists, since they don't really have that much that's expressed better through art going on in their heads. Who wants to see inferior si fe manifested. It's like their secret hidden dark side is everyone else's vapid exterior. You unmask a bip bop idea machine and get a kinda caring sentimental bland doofus who just wants to be not get bullied and everyone to have a nice experience. Tortured twisted shadows expressed through art are supposed to be glamorous things like Te hard uncomfortable truths and Ni things we all just know are true but don't want to say out loud and can't quite put words to. Cool things like that.

>>84584624
interesting, so how does one express or use Ti/Ne or Ne/Ti in a creative manner?
or is it a case of xNTPs need to be cornered or in a shit time in their life and using their shadow functions to get shit done?
I always thought of myself as a creative failure; I want to be creative, I wish I was more creative, I wish I had the energy and courage to delve into it, but past writing stupid shit I just never did it, both due to laziness and being scared of jumping in and ending up stagnating forever or just being shit at it, but I'm trying to work on a project right now that requires me to be creative, and it feels harder than it should be

MBTI is a thread for nobodies to talk a lot about nothing because they have nothing else going on in their lives

>>84584440
Parasocial typically means someone you don't interact with directly, like a VTuber or YouTube content creator.

>>84584803
But that's the tricky part here and why it's a grey area, you don't know if you're interacting with the same person, I might be someone else just replying to your reply chain, or I guess I was thinking about that while typing it, so you're right

>>84584803
>>84584835
that retard thinks he's a celebrity or sum shhh

>>84584914
Are you inferior Ti?
Just wondering

I miss prince
he was nice

>>84584796
Welcome to 4chan in a nutshell,

>>84585483
and the internet for the most part

honestly.
enfj-senpai was the only intelligent and decent person here.
then fagtaur bullied her away

>ENFJ
>on 4chan
lol
lmao
you got got, it was just another INFJ larping, females on 4chan are always either INFJs or INFPs, very rarely ENTPs (but they're usually too good at social shit and would rather cyborg their way away from the net)

>>84584796
Well why don't you tell us what's going on in your life right now Anon?

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INFP-A
rare fun quiz that doesnt make me say its stupid at 3 questions in

>>84585532
Cheating on my INFP girlfriend with an INFJ girl. Thanks for asking

>>84582075
hello fellow crocobro

>>84585544
What lead you to this path?
Worse yet, why would you do this but end up picking a low quality pick like INFJs too, is she hot at least?

>>84584976
Ti dom. Means I'm smarter you.

>>84585613
INFP girlfriend is pretty boring and dumb. INFJ is hot with huge knockers. We're discussing how I can leave my INFP without hurting her too much.

>>84585652
>We're discussing how I can leave my INFP without hurting her too much.
I was going to call you a larper, but that sounds way too real

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The people who could consistently mine for 16p memes on reddit/TikTok/whatever garbage they doomscroll are the ones faggotposting about the reggys instead lol

>>84584624
The only good artists are the ones whose styles I dissect for master studies.

>>84584414
OP should try being useful at once and make some MBTI incel uprising to scam the uncs edition.

>>84584083
There isn't any complexity for cultures to form around them, anymore.

>>84583820
So it's usually from social recognition addicts treating any engagement with them like it's oxygen.

>>84583500
Good.

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I don't want to be a fucking bird, what is this shit, GAY
But I guess the results fit the cyborg criteria, not sure about the socially energetic part but that's probably just the usual ability to fit in with any crowds and act comfortable within them, even tho I'd probably rather be home jacking off or playing some game with some friends (but that part is probably also part of it)

>>84586368
>There isn't any complexity for cultures to form around them, anymore.
Is it complexity? Or is it the opposite?
I think you're old, and you're bored, we both are, and if you try to keep looking for more and more complexity in a specific field then you'll just end up feeling like there's nothing to be found anywhere, I think this isn't true for youngsters that somehow find their way on this board (let alone this thread) where everything's probably daunting as fuck when all they've been doing so far and they want to do is shoot galaxy gas up their nose and become the next nuisance tiktoker because there's no other realistic way for them to afford ever getting their own house and a family and yadda yadda
I feel that way towards games, personally, because I've been gaming at the very least 60 to 100h a week for about thirty years now, and it's very hard for me to find anything new and fresh and fun, wouldn't this be the same if you enjoyed literature about anything, you read all the big ones, most of the smaller more obscure ones, then you're stuck with fanfic level material of questionable quality, is it that different from how you feel towards MBTI?
Because when I go and buy some games I somewhat enjoyed (aka I would've fucking loved ten years ago but now they're 'okay') to my much younger nephew, he's like 'omg this is the best shit ever' and has a blast, in my stead

>>84586368
>>84586444
So even though I share your feeling here at first sight, I don't know how much of it is our biased perception being completely fucked up, and how much is real, and the real reason(s) why people don't interact with their culture is external to the culture itself, 'what's the point', 'why shouldn't I just browse tiktok all day', 'it's too much to learn and I could indulge myself in easily accessible good feelings instead' etc etc

so yeah anyways, I think we're cooked as fuck, maybe AI will be our salvation, hopefully I'll make enough money to survive through it, but I don't see how the current cultures are 'less complex' than they were ten years ago, or even twenty, idk

>>84584414
I think general interest in MBTI dropped everywhere, it's not exclusive to here.

>>84584440
Have to ask agree that it would fit.
Nothing against it as a concept, but doing it with random anons instead of celebs is kind of a weird choice.

>>84585527
Why not?
We probably have some Fe-groids letting their inferior Ti-groidisms loose on the chans. You will probably not find the more stereotypical ones much though, mainly because 4chan's culture doesn't really favor Fe-groiding around. Somebody thought I was ENFJ once!

>>84586368
Raw socialfagging on 4chan is a terrible idea, let's just say it like that.
Firstly because you are carefully picking out the most fucked up people to interact with, and not in the fun or quirky way.
And secondly because you are ruining it for anons who specifically use the site to not care about who is who, expecting posts to stand on their own.

>>84586499
>Somebody thought I was ENFJ once!
you are

>>84586505
Obviously not.
It's only vaguely possible to come across as one because extraversion+not inferior Feeling

https://youtube.com/shorts/AlndzB3ShW4

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Is it even a compliment to be called ENFJ?

On one hand, that's identifying somebody as what's considered one of the most likeable types on a personal level, if not the most likeable. It's also usually associated with high CHA and exceptionally good intentions.
On the other hand, that's still calling somebody a slutty airhead who considers having sex and comforting somebody to be the same action. Though intuitive is usually consider smarter than sensing so at least it's not straight calling you Usagi.

>>84586499
Idk man, I get it, and half of me completely agrees, it's fucking retarded to do any sort of socialfagging (in any way shape or form, whether you go the avatarfagging route or using a nickname, or simply being autistic enough to recognize other specific users through the way they're typing while sharing a general or some such), but honestly, the other half of me just isn't sure what else to do, only 4chan provides this experience, the discords were fun but they always devolve into retarded drama and something ends up killing them, one way or another, and they can also turn into even worse personality cults than the avatarfags you find here.

Give me ten years and I'll have access to an AI that'll replace all of this, but until then, idk.

>>84586598
>who considers having sex and comforting somebody to be the same action
you said this once before
what are you talking about

>>84586614
Actual stuff I saw ENFJ foids do IRL. And have heard the same from other people about the type on the internet too.

Haven't opened this general since 2023.
Looks like Centaur, Mosley & Breeder don't post here anymore?

Still think this should become a personality typology general (not just MBTI). You guys need to take the Socionics and Enneagram pills.

>>84586644
Mosley posted last thread
Breeder is gone
Centaur is dead

>>84586644
Also support the idea of going full /type/ as opposed to just /mbti/.
Granted, most discussions will still be Jungian and maybe enneagram sprinkled in, but still.

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>>84586455
I'm not into doomerisms because their premises aren't relatable.
>I don't see how the current cultures are 'less complex' than they were ten years ago, or even twenty, idk
I'd rather dig 100-200 years ago for comparisons.
I would still argue that 10-20 years ago there was more coherence than posturing+feigning indifference+following trends+aggressive hooking of attention.

>>84586444
No, I don't think it's about boredom.
I don't see a problem per se.
My preferences tell me I'd rather have the thread be different, and my logics say a lot of other people frequenting it would prefer that, too, but they're busy with some garbage in their minds, so the potential energy goes into a complete nowhere instead.
Actually, the perfect thread is where I'm focusing on reading good posts rather than making any posts.
This is all under a narrative presumption that this is a very important meta topic (not really) and many wonders will come as the thread comes to it's elusive rightful state (...llol).

Also, you sound like you're at risk of doing drugs, if discernment is not valuable but 'overwhelming' experiences are.

>>84586598
If it was coming from Fe-inf, then: anyone soci-able is an ENFJ for them.

>>84586659
The greatest mystery so far is the remaining 1/3rd of PAS theory that's seemingly not disclosed.

>>84586672
>If it was coming from Fe-inf, then: anyone soci-able is an ENFJ for them.
I believe the person who did that identified themselves as ISFJ.
Not Jungian IS, so it could be anything else in the og. Unlikely to be a IT tho, don't think I ever saw them calling themselves ISFJ of all things.

>>84586499
>I think general interest in MBTI dropped everywhere, it's not exclusive to here.

I suspect regulars are migrating over to PDB. That's probably the most active MBTI discussion forum outside of reddit. I've noticed someone from here is pretty active on PDB.

>>84586694
ISFJs are usually EF or IF in Jung.

IS is a very schizoid and delulu type. These guys are usually INxx in MBTI.

Personality cafe used to be good back in the day. And by back in the day I mean 15 years ago when most of you were still in diapers

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Oh the PASF site is an untapped goldmine, but only in the aesthetic sense. It's like reading Fallout New Vegas vault terminals.
There's something cool about the theory though... Barely, but, still. Let's see.

>>84586742
Most of the regs are still in diapers to this day.

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Yeah they have to wear them for the leaks and drips after chopping their nuts off . . .

Imagine being a no-nuts-having diaper freak. But I guess no nut november wouldn't be that much of a challenge for you, so there's that

>>84586700
>PDB
Imagine my shock when I found out they have pages for the stacks mentioned in >>84584198

>>84586726
For one I can tell that many IxFJ are usually Jungian IFs who might not fit into some modern IxFP stereotypes. I did see some I suspect might be EF but not as social as the ExFJ stereotypes would suggest.

Ironically enough, on occasion some INxP are actually INs. Though it's far more likely for them to be socially introverted ENs. Entirely different types if they just took a 16p test, though I will not count those for the sake of clarity.

Someone make a Reggie diaper wearing/no diaper list

>>84586672
Yeah I get it, everything's a product now and if it isn't, it needs to be ignored and pushed aside, MBTI isn't a product and people can't really make money with it, so yeah, when I talk to that ISTP friend that's much older and into loved history, he tells me that it's probably all coming down to the economy we're stuck in right now, and I mean, makes sense, everyone's on edge and we're going back to having to 'survive' rather than just live easy lives, but I guess that depends on where you're from, but anyways

I think you're coping about not wanting to interact with us, I think you enjoy it, don't think you'd go through the trouble of avatarfagging if you didn't find something in it that's pleasing to you, but I get it, tho sadly for you, I'm not deep down the jung rabbit hole and cannot provide you with unlimited reading works, past my usual ramblings

And thanks for worrying but I'm at no risk of trying drugs, at least not until we get full dive VR, then I'm fucking gone bruh

And it's completely random but my intuition tells me to add that I've been watching so much malcolm collins videos and I really enjoy listening to his takes, he talks about culture quite a lot (even if some of his takes are crazy, but which one of us wouldn't admit to that), and even though he's the basedest looking faggot ever, I'm allowing it to pass because he's got kids and they'll most likely turn out as smart and autistic as he is, so there it is

>>84586700
Is it a disguise for a hookup app?
Can people have actual discussions on it or is it all censored to fuck and filled with retarded normies that'll **GASP** as soon as I call someone a faggot?
Maybe I should give it a go

Ni Ti Fe Se is the absolute kino stack type and it's even Jung pulled

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If you can't call some faggot a nigger without getting banned, then what chance is there for genuine, authentic discussion?

>>84586813
Ya, it's Nietzsche canon stack.

>>84586816
4chan is really the only place where you can do that in public. Not including small tight-knit discords, of course.

>>84586598
>Is it even a compliment to be called ENFJ?
better than being an old fat bald pedophile that pretends to be a magical girl all day

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*moose sounds*

The biggest bullshit I've ever written is having 2 IFs, yet neither of them are depressive failures.
Or 2 INs and neither are magical.
Or 3 ESs and neither had sex(the loli probably would though).
Am I doing it right

>>84586873
Guess it's the difference between being confused due to little context and seething about an anonymous poster. One of them is certainly easier to justify.

>be patchy
>resident genius
>can lose 60 iq points and still be above average
>wear diapers because you wet the bed every night anyway

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>>84586809
>everyone's on edge and we're going back to having to 'survive' rather than just live easy lives
Food scarcity only ever happens from extreme mismanagement or malicious management.
Unless you're talking about everything turning into wartime Bosnia. That'd be cool, but not catastrophic, just become some gang goon.

What we were talking about? Right.

>I'm not deep down the jung rabbit hole
Junging around is only like 15% of my mind right now. What's more important is, is there any weird non-fiction you had read recently?

>avatarfagging
Is funny.

>I think you're coping about not wanting to interact with us, I think you enjoy it
Most of the time it's like a slightly useful chore, unless the thread is a complete dumpster fire.

>>84586700
I would, but I'd get banned quick.
Just kidding, PDB had been doing typology like LLMs do, I wouldn't want that. Maybe that's where the training data for pedantry is from.

>>84586768
My condolences Frau Krisschtein, it was only ever a jab at your warped mind, not at your age-related incontinence...

Unrelated to the other reggy fossil uncs however.

if patchy lost 60 iq points he'd be significantly below the retarded bar

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>>84586990
>Unless you're talking about everything turning into wartime Bosnia. That'd be cool
Oh I meant to write "bad," not "cool." This is real awkward y'all.

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For now I have no idea what else I can dig up about Jungian typology that wasn't already explored previously. And there's probably not much more I could learn on this very specific topic.

iirc I had found one book trying to justify modern stacks at least partially, but that's really still missing the point.

Been reading into Psychosophy and it is seems like it could be the most versatile personality typology system. The only issue is it has some gray area.

Like, no PY type correlates well with E5 because the second placement conflicts directly with E5's stinginess.

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>>84587052
Psychosophy is for the observable operational level.
Each typology is for a different layer. Except for socionics, which is just useless.
Enneagram is of "endless striving" so it's useless as well beyond what would be the Basic or Contact stage in PASF. Completely replaceable by watchword and the magical "stop fucking around."

>>84587052
PY is a behavioral system more than anything, so the Ennea and Jungian types will not necessarily match.
Like you will easily find 1L feeloids, or 3L thinkoids. Gotta pay attention to the other placements though, not all 3Ls are the same for instance.

>>84586990
Sorry bro, I don't do 'reading', I mean I was into the whole ponyfagging a billion years ago, but I don't think you'd consider this sort of autism 'non-fiction', no matter how real she was to me
I need to, reading is like working out, I know it'll be good for me, I know I need to do it, but man, why don't I sit my ass down and play through whatever game is keeping my inner monologue quiet instead
I want to get into warhammer, because it just tickles me in the right way and I'll probably read those books one day but only so that I can performatively use that knowledge to appear cool in front of other nerds, man what a messed up life we all live, but again, not non-fiction
I don't think I could see myself ever reading anything that isn't fiction, I'll blame accute Ne-groism, even tho I'm probably just lazy

Your freudian slip is right on point, who doesn't love some good old post apocalyptic scenario

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>>84587117
>3 days free
>it wants my money
lol lmao
uninstalled, nevermind

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>>84587134
What the FUCK do you mean you need premium to chat LOL

>>84587134
wdym you can use the app forever, but don't get access to all its festures(most of them are socialfagging tho) It's freemium basically.
Only reason I'd keep is because PDB website is retarded and you can only imagepost from the app.

>>84587144
Yeah that. But surely you are there for non-socialfagging purposes, right anon?

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I was expecting openness to be lower but otherwise this falls in line with what I usually am

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Apparently only e*f*u's become successful.
https://www.pasf.org/pasfj/p4th.pdf
Any Coping Factor for e*r*a* huh? I'm gonna do it this time... Why, yes, I consider astrology to be fake, why do you ask?

>The first approach corresponds to the "natural" approach of the Extenalizer who is likely to deal with the digits as though they were located somewhere in the environment. In this type of approach, the subject may, for example, imagine that the numbers are written on the wall, or perhaps on a piece of paper. He may also associate the digits, in various ways, with actual environmental factors. This general method is the natural approach of the Externalizer, who turns spontaneously to the environment in order to utilize it in his problem-solving behavior. Such methods, however, are not among the more successful, since they restrict recall.
https://www.pasf.org/wechsler.htm
Primitive E bros...

Primitive types for nations
https://www.pasf.org/crossculture.htm

Is this peak normalfag?
https://pasf.org/pasfj/resptext/lowAS.htm

The types get more Barnum effect the more I read into them.

>>84586672
>The greatest mystery so far is the remaining 1/3rd of PAS theory that's seemingly not disclosed
It's all over the place. But I mean the modification/contact types.
>Modification
https://www.pasf.org/wechsler.php

>>84587117
They aged down the INTJ but not the INFJ.

>>84587146
Well what's the purpose of an app meant to allow you find people to talk to, if you need to spend money to... I don't even know what they really mean, so I can chat just fine with people but how do I find them without paying? How do they find me? I'm assuming the algos are meant to fuck you over if you're freemium, so..?

I don't even know what I'm expecting or want from it, and honestly it might just be a bad idea because I'll just end up finding another mentally ill woman that'll obsess over me and/or vise versa, and it'll make my life worse, maybe I just need to go through with my warhammer plan and make friends that way, I'm assuming their shops are going to be filled with xNTPs and the occasional ISTP, idk

>>84587169
Because xNTJs are meant to be hot, and xNFJs are meant to be mentally ill, it makes sense if you ask me

>>84587175
Think the idea is that the app is a glorified phone client for free users, and the social features are for premium users.
I'm not even sure you can contact somebody directly, or be contacted as a free user lol.

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>>84587169
Oh here's the full type symbolics list.
https://www.pasf.org/symbols.htm
This is worse than socionics.

With nothing really describing what's a direction of modification, how are you supposed to write type descriptions out here? Isn't this, like, 512 possible types total? Guess I'll have to read into the CIA asshat pedantry even further.

>>84587208
So I'd get three days to try to find people, and after that it's thirty fucking bucks a year... for whatsapp with extra steps

Maybe I was wrong, maybe MBTI can be a product, I wonder how much money they're really making mmh

>>84583676
No, you did and i'm tired of seeing you shift the blame on others
>>84583690
The Jungfag regulars

how do you ruin a thread on 4chan, other than posting CP or the tail comic or something, what the fuck do you mean
just learn to ignore things you dislike, first time around here?

>>84587299
Don't give it too much thought, the actual translation is
>waaaah I'm not getting attention for existing and spitting surface-level bullishit all day in an anonymous imageboard

>>84587246
Meanwhile our man literally just threw up exactly 8 types, which you can write in 2 letters - then just casually mentioned aux functions are a thing btw and those types aren't even real exactly as described. Also you shouldn't be wasting time trying to type anyone.

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>>84587317
He didn't provide any obvious compensation/adaptation/etc layering except for vague "maybe you'll get some hold of Nth function by age X I guess" and irrelevant and basic "uhh personas and maybe archetypal possessions," plus the type descriptions just aren't concrete at all.

Middle realm? Active imagination? Those are introduced as something ranging from "you'll need a licensed therapist making a designated session of this for you or you'll go fucking insane!" to "maybe find some me-time and scribble stuff for fun," and that's on a good day.


I'll take a break from thinking about this.

>>84587393
He keeps it simple and just says the compensation is your opposite type basically. And auxiliary functions help you getting there without just throwing yourself headfirst in the unconscious.
Also I like the "maybe find some me-time and scribble stuff for fun", it's elegantly effective and mostly common sense, except now you know why and how it works.