Im 27 and I am extremely bitter that I will never get to have sex with a lot of attractive girls. Its really hitting me that I wont be a "late bloomer" in any sense. I am 5'10, average looking, and have no sexual options. Its really annoying. I just want a lot of sex. Im sick of pretending like thats not all I care about. Im sick of pretending I care about love. Im sick of pretending that it doesnt bother me.
I'm 28 and bitter that I never got to be a cute femboy that takes a lot of cock :(
>>84577262you can fuck 20yo exactly like that pick for a couple $100 if you want. go do that or stop whining about it please. its not that deep bro
>>84577262Why be bitter? the fantasy is alive BECAUSE you haven't had sex. It's better this way.
>>84577301Prostitutes are usually ugly, the ones that arent cost about 1k for an hour, you have to wear a condom (if they let you not, they let everyone not), you get zero ego boost, there is zero sexual chemistry.Its a totally unfulfilling simulation of hot sex
>>84577349>Prostitutes are usually uglynot asians>the ones that arent cost about 1k for an hournot asians>you have to wear a condom not asians but its extra and you will catch something>you get zero ego boostshe's bad at her job>there is zero sexual chemistrybad at her job prostitution is paying for the fantasy that a girl wants to have sex with you the same way having a girlfriend is paying for the fantasy that females can feel love
>>84577262As a 26 year old volcel, why are you bitter about not corrupting yourself and getting STDs?I don't envy man-whores, personally. To them, sex is meaningless. To me, it still means something. Stop worrying about whether or not you missed out on sex. Think of it like eating. Most people are having too much sex, just like most people eat too much food. They ruin any of the flavor hunger brings to it, and mostly treat eating like a drug. Don't make sex like a drug, anon. You'll miss out on the full experience.For all things, there is excess, and there is defect. Sex is good, but not with the way people do it. Find somebody you've come to love, and have sex with them. Loveless sex is slop. Don't stoop that low. It's like you have no self-respect.>>84577301This is not healthy.
>>84577390>This is not healthy.why? agreed if you're spending thousands a year but every once in a while can't be that bad for yourself. I'm not getting any ever anyway.
>>84577301Are you serious? If you are, you have massively unrealistic expectations. Why the hell isa pretty girl going to go for you, damn you're delusional
>>84577386>Prostitutes are usually ugly>not asiansYou delusional weeb. most of them look like the old asian ladies that work at fish markets. They might be the least ugly pound for pound but that's about it.
>>84577443they really are not if you're not going to an asian massage place but okay lmao whatever you sayit's not about being a weeb, they are just a million times better at making you feel good about yourself than white women. last one I was with just winced in pain the entire time. walked out of there ASAP and that was the last time I was with a white woman
>>84577262I'm 24 and I'm over it, how my genuine attempts at loving weren't requited at all during the prime of my life You meet a girl and it feels like God personally sent her to meet you and you get to know her and you like her so you ask her out and she's like>it's not you, it's me, I'm just not ready to date at the moment, you're so sweet, let's be friendsetcAnd then you look at, what, just someone else, not even bringing looks or mentalshit into it. Someone similar to you. He got teenage or college love for free, for nothing, no drama, no rain dance rituals to appease some psychologist, for him god actually does send him a gf with no effort or even a single thought on his part. And this is just life over and over again. I went through this cycle like 4 times before I stopped asking "what am I doing wrong" and whatnot, it's nothing. I am just like this. They are just like that. Women have agency to pick whoever they want. I wasn't picked. There is no improvable goal to reach to someday magically earn a gf ticket with cosmic goodboy points. If a girl ever likes me then I will get picked. I was never picked. Nothing else to it
>>84577399>I'm never getting any ever anywayThat's why. You think so low of yourself. You deserve love, yet you justify avoiding it and making your problem worse by telling yourself that you can't succeed anyway.You're like a little gen alpha kid who only watches tic-tok because "I can't read anyway." They'd be better off even just without the Tic-Tok. It's sad.No sex is preferable to paying for it. You're basically asking for a std ridden human fleshlight at that point. You'd be better off just buying a sex toy and VR headset.
>>84577443mfw ugliest old asian lady that work at fish markets
>>84577496Brutal>>84577512>You deserve loveLove is a something freely given, if you're somehow deserving/entitled to love then you're not getting love and somebody doing some kind of loving act for you in order to appease you is pretty much the same as prostitution in spirit >don't pay for sex, buy an onahole and a vr headset that will sit around your room and make you want to kill yourself when you look at it, now you can pay with your time washing and douching a hollow silicone tube in the sink and try and imagine what a woman's touch feels like absolutely brutal
Too bad. Only Chad Thundercock gets it.
>>84577512>That's why. You think so low of yourself.Well I recently had an epiphany that I'm basically a junkie but with self-pity and feeling like my life is a tragedy (my brain tumor I got last year was basically the biggest drug hit I've ever gotten). That kinda took the edge out of the self-hatred. I'm in a much better mental state these days.I did give up relationships, though. I'm 28 and even the odd woman who makes it clear she's interested I can't handle. For a while this was an incel view covering it. Now if I'm honest: I'm just not made for that part of life.>You deserve love, yet you justify avoiding it and making your problem worse by telling yourself that you can't succeed anyway.Thank you for saying that. Sincerely. I don't know how to get this across, I'm a math autist. The only sort of constructive interaction I've ever had with a girl was one of the TAs in one of my first year math classes, but that was totally focused on the math. Regardless, she seemed really happy to talk with me after class. I remember it fondly. I finally got to feel how it feels to make a pretty woman smile (I totally disarmed her when I guessed she wanted to be a professor, she asked how I knew and I just said she was in her environment when she was teaching, so she should be one. ear to ear smile). But you know, that was a totally platonic relationship that ended after the summer. I don't speak to women unless they come speak to me first, which does happen here and there.>No sex is preferable to paying for it.I know. I've pretty much gotten out of it now. I said I'd quit after my last one and I did get an STD (thankfully nothing too serious and cured with antibiotics). Now whenever I feel the urge I say "okay, you can, but you have to jerk off first. If you still want to after, then you can go" and I've never wanted to after I jerked off.
>>84577496>>84577563>>84577576>>84577262I'm 22 and never been with a woman. I know it's over so I trooned out. I think my parents won't care because they already know it would be a miracle if I ever got a gf, let own let me impregnate her and have kids. So my parents have already given up on me having grandchildren for them.
>mass reply>I know it's over so I wear women's clothes nowWhy
>>84577627I don't wear women's clothes I just take HRT and boymode.
>>84577739And this non-sequitur follows from this thread discussion why?
>>84577760if you failed as a male maybe you can partially succeed as a trans woman.
>>84577386Asian girls genuinely arent attractive to me. Only if they are, like, half white can they be hot.
>>84577777'Failing' assumes agency on your part has anything to do with a woman choosing you Taking the money you could spend on a prostitute or a massage on pharmaceuticals makes zero sense, you might as well start taking adderall, since women are still the ones choosing you or not, you just did a pointless rain dance ritual for nothing and are out money now
>>84577800estrogen is really cheap dude. It's $60 for estradiol vial that lasts 6 monthsif you can't beat em, join em. You need to join the female gender and start having sexual ownership over men.
>>84577824That's expensive as hell for a PED that mimics the effects of beer, you might as well just drink beer And the fuck do you mean beat em, what am I competing with them for exactly?
>>84577496Agreed, I am a 27 years old khv, there is no light at the end of the tunnel
>>84577262Just leave the house and go to clubs you retard. It's that simple.
>>84577262What a fucking loser. Sex is literally no better than masturbating. Jerk off and stfu faggot
>>84577512>That's why. You think so low of yourself. You deserve love, yet you justify avoiding it and making your problem worse by telling yourself that you can't succeed anyway.This dude is correct. You gotta go out with the boys with a king mindset. If you go out and people see you having fun it naturally attracts women to you. Just hope you are the best looking in your group (like me) and watch your mates fumble as you do nothing and the women flock to you.
>>84577262Have you tried sexdollmaxxing?
You guys are simply ugly. You need accept it as a cold fact. Do not be hysterical about it. It happens, everybody rolls a pair or dice for looks and you rolled like 4. It's not your fault. It doesn't make you a bad person. It just happened to you, is all.You think you're not? You can't judge your looks. People complimented you? They tried to be nice or wanted something from you. You have the ultimate evidence. A woman looks at you and discards you as a possible partner in about 0.35 seconds. As soon as the video signal reaches the brain. Perhaps it's even decided in the neural network inside the retina lol. So the brain just gets the signal "ugly male at X=35 Y=15" from the eye.So yeah. When you fully accept it you will see it clearly. You won't get a girl "for free" like the average man gets. Wail all you want, it won't help. You will need to win her with resources, social status, something that others are not willing to give her.
>>84578211that, unfortunately, is not possible for me. basic regular person advice will not work with me, though I do agree my low view of myself does not help. However there was a time where I didn't have that, and it didn't change much
>>84578272>You guysYou're one of them too buddy
>>84578272I'm at most a 5 on a good day and women have approached me. Not often but it does happen. Don't ask me why; I don't understand it either. I'm suspicious of everyone and have an "what do you want from me?" attitude when strangers try to talk to me, so, that doesn't really work in my favor though.
>>84578280well enjoy permavirginity you lil bitch nigga lmao!
>>84578211And if you're the ugliest in your group?
>>84578342I wouldn't know. I guess you can be ugly but still tall. Or if you're not tall try and be decently good looking. If a girl gets on with you like you would get on with one of your mates, you've got a good chance at fucking her if you play your cards right. Women are not difficult, talk to them like regular people and say dumb shit and make them laugh. If you are a virgin you will inevitably become too attached and scare away some women before you get a hold of your emotions and become a sigmachad and start attracting them.
>>84578372You're hilariously naive
>>84578376Okay then, retard. Tell me your advice.
>>84578393I have none, but obviously you're a normie who has no idea what it's like to be an ugly autist
>>84578401>ugly autistI know what it's like to be a decently good looking autist. I walked so E-boys could run. Girls used to hate video games when I was in my early 20's. I am the type of man that E-girls got into gaming for. I am a dork but I went out at weekends and smoked weed and drank and went clubbing like normal 20 year olds and I succeeded without too much effort.
>>84578417Exactly, you would kill yourself if we had to trade appearances
>>84577262Im 28 and feel exactly the same way. I dont even understand what the problem is or how to fix it. It seems supernatural in origin, like a curse. I see guys less attractive than I am getting with hot women, so I cant fully embrace the blackpill. On the other hand, all the "just be confident, focus on yourself" bullshit doesn't make sense either because I do legitimately like myself a lot and spend 90% of my time focused on my hobbies/interests and talking to others about it. "Women can sense neediness" even though I crack jokes and make people laugh and have great conversations with people about what im interested in. And they can sense neediness but cant sense that a guy is a boring and/or a psychopathic abusive sack of shit.I honestly just think it's a curse. Theres no logic behind it. They will fuck less attractive boring videogame addicts and abusechads and im just sitting here absolutely befuddled this is my life even though I did everything right and still failed.
>>84577563>Love is a something freely given, if you're somehow deserving/entitled to love then you're not getting love and somebody doing some kind of loving act for you in order to appease you is pretty much the same as prostitution in spirit Yes. I never said it was easy to find love. But it is easier when you let yourself give it.>>don't pay for sex, buy an onahole and a vr headset...I mean, instead of buying a onahole, you rent one when you pay for sex. I never understood how tf prostitutes ever made a living in the 21st century. The only advantage is that you don't have to clean the onahole you rent, which is eveb more grose imo.>>84577582>Well I recently had an epiphany that I'm basically a junkie but with self-pity and feeling like my life is a tragedy (my brain tumor I got last year was basically the biggest drug hit I've ever gotten). That kinda took the edge out of the self-hatred. I'm in a much better mental state these days. That's intense. Impressive limonade, though. >Now if I'm honest: I'm just not made for that part of life. You have the body for it. We're all made for that part of life. It's just like how we're all made to exercise and build muscle. It's extremely rare for someone to genuinely not be built for exercise.> platonic relationship that ended after the summer. That's okay and a good thing.>I don't speak to women unless they come speak to me first, which does happen here and there. If you're looking for someone you love, you gotta talk to people. If you can socialize with more people, like with the math girl, you will eventually find someone you can then form an attatchment with.I chickened out on anything real because I don't want more responsibility rn, but I even got chances in the first place when I gave up on making friends or getting a gf and started fucking around with people while talking with them only for my entertainment. People are like cats. When you don't want them, you get them. When you do, they're gone.
>>84578211I'm the dude, and that doesn't work like that irl unless you're Gaston. I was more so saying it because getting prostitutes because you're "not getting any anyway" makes your life worse. There's no good reason to stoop so low. It's like an alcoholic saying "I'm drunk anyway, I'll have 1 more shot of vodka" over and over. The problem itself somehow becomes the justification for intensifying the problem.
>extremely bitterSame anon. I'm almost 40 and still incel. The late bloom never happened. Fags would worship me, but I cannot even get a mid or old foid.Likewise, I also just want to have a lot of sex, and do not believe love is even possible with these disloyal mercenary foids of today.I also despise the whole dating and outdoors/travelling meme. The best thing in life is sex, and I will never have unpaid cunt. FML.
I'm 40 never had sex and I was disfigured in an accident last year so realistically I'm now like a 1/10 I would give anything to go back to being a 27 year old virgin