>>84589593
My piss bottle exploded all over the floor again

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>worthless foidbabble
time for the chopblock.

yes i want to plow a wet pussy while looking at the round plump titties of some slut who rolls her eyes back every few seconds and guides my hand to pull her hair while i slap her around
I dont care about some prude who wants to lay down like a starfish and doesn't even know how to stretch her legs behind her head

>>84589593
Tits or Gtffo

>>84589593
Yeah I would. I think sexual compatibility is important and not something you can wait til after marriage to figure out. Also I don't care about bodycount because I'm not an incel.

>>84589593
marriage is cuckoldry for guys, if you love each other, what's the point of getting govt involved. it's like going to college just for a certificate and learned material are secondary or irrelevant, everything is cucked

I know something better.


What's that.


I know where it's going to be.
And where is that.


It will be brought to me and placed
at my feet.

>>84589593
yet here you are going to fuck niggers who seem "whitewashed" kys mud shark and burn in hell. fuck you.

>>84589593
>Men
*psychopatic Chads

there are three kinds of men:
good Chads who marry their high school sweethearts and are unavailable
fuckboys that you're obsessed with
ugly men you refuse to consider

>>84589601
can we ssee

>>84589593
I would like to wait until marriage too but your attitude is disgusting

>>84589593
I find the idea of a girl waiting for marriage to have sex to be so sweet and so admirable. But there are practical realities of it that I find the proposition to be just too risky. What if we wouldn't be sexually compatible? What if our sex drives were very different? What if we are into non-compatible stuff? What if we don't find each other attractive naked? There's just so much risk. But I do empathize. I understand it's about one's values. It's what ideally I would want too. It's just not practical, and the consequences could be severe. If we're going to get married, then we better both be sure that we love having sex with each other. I'd be willing to wait for a long time for a virgin girl and to take it really slow. Mostly because I would need to feel comfortable enough around her too.

>>84589729
>What if we wouldn't be sexually compatible? What if our sex drives were very different?
What if we are into non-compatible stuff?
Could you not just talk about it to find out? Plus, even if you're not into something, could you not still help her out unless it's something really harmful?
>What if we don't find each other attractive naked?
I'm sure there are other opportunities to see each other naked

>>84589593
Legalize marital rape and I'd consider it. As-is you're just frigid and chances are you won't put out after marriage either.

>>84589751
>Could you not just talk about it to find out?
People don't know what really works for them sexually until they experience it.

>>84589751
>Could you not just talk about it to find out?
There's many things people may not know about themselves or what they desire until they have sex. Things that may be hard to put into words. It's like not having chemistry with a person you're talking to. You may also not have sexual chemistry. Hell, one person may even be of an incompatible sexual orientation and not know about it. I definitely would go above and beyond to try whatever such a girl would want, obviously with some exceptions and red lines, but even the extent of sexual adventurousness in the context of a committed relationship may be so disparate between people as to make the sexual relationship incompatible. There are just so many potential pitfalls, many of which the couple may not even be cognizant of. But you could figure it out if you two do have a sexual relationship before you get married. It may not be perfect information. People also change with time, so the fact you love having sex with each other now may not be indicative of you loving to have sex ten years from now. But it's better than going into it essentially blind. However, I want to emphasize again that I do find a woman having such a disposition to be very admirable and sweet. If there was a way to figure out sexual compatibility beforehand, I would be fully on board. I myself would never want to have sex with someone who I don't know very well, who I'm not very emotionally intimate with, or who I don't fully trust.

>>84589593
yes, i am struggling so much in dating as a zoomer girl abstaining until marriage. most moids our age expect you to put out very early into the relationship. nobody respects my boundaries. i also keep seeing them simping for literal prostitutes which makes me wonder if men are even capable of admiring a woman for being chaste. i honestly give up.
>>84589618
because it is a safety net for your children.
>>84589680
what about it is disgusting? no, you are not waiting until marriage. you just wanted to seethe for no reason.
>>84589729
>What if we wouldn't be sexually compatible?
this is a degenerate new age meme. if you aren't into weird stuff and can be fulfilled with normal sex, it won't be an issue. if you are a freak, you will never be happy anyway.
>What if our sex drives were very different?
that is just bound to happen no matter what because men and women's hormones are different.
>What if we are into non-compatible stuff?
is it really that important?
>What if we don't find each other attractive naked?
you can tell through their clothes.

>>84589795
>People don't know what really works for them sexually until they experience it.
Doesn't that also mean it's justifiable for someone to sleep around to make sure they really know what works for them? Sex shouldn't be so important. I think some things, I don't mind missing out on, like I don't mind missing out on drugs.
>>84589820
As above, I don't think sex should be so important when you'll unlikely be having sex for like half your life with that person. People say relationships are about compromise, but somehow that goes out of the window when it comes to sex.

>>84589885
>is it really that important?
Yes. Imagine having as little empathy as a foid.

>>84589885
try approaching shy men instead waiting for confident fuckboys

>>84589593
No we just don't trust that a modern woman is waiting until marriage. Imagine waiting and then finding out she fucked 20 other guys.

>>84589885
how old are you, zoomer girl?

>>84589893
>Doesn't that also mean it's justifiable for someone to sleep around to make sure they really know what works for them?
Yes.
>Sex shouldn't be so important.
If it's not important to you then you shouldn't mind me having sex with other people.

>>84589885
>what about it is disgusting?
Her thinking that she is this speshul little snowflake that there is no one else who would share that value with her.
>you just wanted to seethe for no reason.
That's you. I was offered sex twice but I declined them.

>>84589885
>because it is a safety net for your children.
lole, that's a larp relationship, why would you have children if you can't trust your partner loves you and need a govt police force enforce it. also children are suppose to be extra side effect, not the point of relationship

>>84589894
what does this have to do with empathy? you aren't going to die if your wife isn't into vore and you have to settle for normal sex, i promise.
>>84589899
approaching men is slut behavior
>>84589902
why?

>>84589903
>If it's not important to you then you shouldn't mind me having sex with other people.
As in sex shouldn't be the ultimate goal to a relationship. People who sleep around invariably cannot pair bond, because instead of trying to form a bond, they spend so much time doing the opposite. They just end up chasing highs, not building a family together.

>>84589885
>is it really that important?
>>84589893
>I don't think sex should be so important
See, how important you feel sex is is also something that could make the sexual relationship incompatible. There are just so many pitfalls. It's too risky of a proposition, I'm sorry. But again, it's very sweet. Just be careful to not get yourself into a situation you may regret.

>>84589908
well it is factually true that most men nowadays aren't willing to wait until marriage
>>84589912
a relationship without any legal connection to each other is a larp. we exist within a government, you are not anprim are you? if you love them, why can't you make a serious commitment like marriage? you are wasting their time. children are not a side effect and that is such a deranged thing to say, yes they are the point of a relationship. are you a homosexual?

>>84589939
>well it is factually true that most men nowadays aren't willing to wait until marriage
First, it's not just men. Second, don't word like all men do it. Just makes you sound like you have double standards.

>>84589915
>why?
because there are virgin guys here willing to wait for sex even past marriage but you may be too young for us

>>84589885
>zoomer girl abstaining until marriage. most moids our age expect you to put out very early into the relationship.
No theres tons of men who are into that too. You just dont want them
>t.zoomzoom, guy doing the exact same

>>84589915
>approaching men is slut behavior
is walking up to a guy and talking to him slut behavior? are you from Saudi Arabia or something?

>>84589967
i'm not dating women, i don't know what they are doing. i also literally said most, not all.
>>84589971
i'm getting old
>>84589973
i only want them but can't find them

>>84589989
>i'm not dating women, i don't know what they are doing.
Women are still humans and it takes two to have consensual sex. Also, you could have just looked it up.
>i also literally said most, not all.
OP didn't though

>>84589939
>why can't you make a serious commitment like marriage
it's like giving gift because someone really wants to vs being forced to give gift for valentine's day because it's just the requirement

your OP framing
>who believes in sex after marriage
puts it in a compulsory frame

>children are not a side effect and that is such a deranged thing to say
https://youtu.be/zvVa3W8XiP4?si=YbhEKJdfB8iQqynu&t=16
idk why you bother trying to converse if you lack any ability to think for yourself

>>84589915
>what does this have to do with empathy?
>you aren't going to die
Literally has no idea what empathy is.

>>84589920
>People who sleep around invariably cannot pair bond
Wow, sounds like sex is extremely important for bonding. Glad I was able to convince you.

>>84589989
>only want them but can't find them
Lmao no you dont want them. You have prob a dozen around you rn but you reject them all because theyre not rich or attractive enough, stop trolling

>>84589989
>i only want them but can't find them
How many male friends do you have?

>>84589593
No i wouldnt.. what i seek the most isnt sex it is to be loved and feel love. To be the special someone in someones life, to be in someones mind, to be someone would mean the world to me

>>84589989
>i'm getting old
+30 virgin men would wait till marriage and further as they have nothing to lose or expectations to wait for anymore but you're not THAT old

>>84589997
why would i talk about women? i don't care about what they are doing.
>>84590003
well that's your non-committal approach to dating, some people take it more seriously than that. you also think for yourself too much that your whole approach to relationships is extremely selfish
>>84590006
i didn't reject anyone like that
>>84590021
zero. why?

>>84590087
Yes you do you have hundreds of men on dating apps or on here and prob like at least 50 of them who are virgin or wanna wait for marriage but you dont want them

>>84590004
>Wow, sounds like sex is extremely important for bonding. Glad I was able to convince you.
Important but not in the way you're saying. Why are you arguing in bad faith? What is it to you?

>>84590087
>zero. why?
Sounds like you hate men. Clearly you need to work on yourself first. Men can tell when you're only interested in them for their stability and romance, and we don't like it.

>>84590087
>why would i talk about women? i don't care about what they are doing.
Because trying to single out men in that way is disingenuous. The world isn't all about you.

>>84590099
>arguing in bad faith?
I'm not arguing, I'm mocking you.

>>84590096
men on dating apps and 4chan just want casual sex. you only want nudes. you aren't looking for a serious relationship with femanons. before you protest, just look at /soc/ and you will see that i'm correct.
>>84590106
how do i hate men lmao? why would i have male friends? if i did, you would call me a hoe who is leading them on or whatever. real friendships is between girls. men don't like when you are only interested in stability and romance? what am i supposed to be interested in?

>>84590123
>how do i hate men lmao?
>why would i have male friends?
Is this bait?

>>84589885
>because it is a safety net for your children.
How so?

>>84590141
not being friends with men means i hate them how?

>>84589593
>who believes in sex after marriage
had a few friends who married girls that wanted sex after marriage, all of them are divorced now because their wives "realized" they liked sex so much they wanted tons of it, same for virgin dudes, most became gay, people would be happier if they stop sharing publicly they're whores or manwhores

>>84590161
they will not be bastards. their parents will have an incentive to stay together and raise them. they will have full legal rights to their parents.

women only want abusechad even if they consciously know it is a bad idea

>>84590123
>4chan just want casual sex. you only want nudes. you aren't looking for a serious relationship with femanons.
Nope you just made that up as a convenient excuse to reject the hundreds of men you deem unattractive.
You seem to want a very specific kind of uberattractive uberrich man and you should actively take steps to meet him because your supermodel wereworlf mafia boss wont break into your house to date you.
I understand that you find 90% of men unattractive but you gotta thena ctively take steps to move closer to the 10% youll actually date

>>84590087
>non-committal approach to dating
you prefer larp over real relationship and also want marriage as a transactional deal for your children - you want to use a dude for your personal gain, redefining self interest as mutual itnerest. not marrying and staying together is the real commitment. marriage is the required larp gift for valentine's day

>>84589593
>>84589885
Youre just making shit up, litteramy every average man is dying to find a girl, any girl who wants to have a family and wont have sex before marriage.
Hell id date any girl who wants something long term, i dont want sex but would a girl date me? No

>>84590123
Yeah because there aren't a ton of guys here that just want a normal relationship.
Atp I'd be more impressed if a woman was interested in talking without feeling the urge to send me nudes

>>84589627
Nta but genuinely what are you even talking about dude

>>84590219
nope you just made that up.
>>84590227
what even is your definition of a real relationship? i am not learning that from someone who is incapable of any real commitment.
>>84590239
average men only care about sex especially in my age group. see the guy above for a perfect example.

>>84590316
>average men only care about sex especially in my age group. see the guy above for a perfect example.
Are you talking about >>84590260
??
How the fuck did you assume I was only interested in sex from that? I'm interested in literally having a ltr and yet the only women I meet that are into me turn out to be sluts after we break up.
It's either that, or they use sex as a way to avoid discussing relationship issues

>>84590316
>you just made that up
No since you keep rejecying the hundreds of guys who are into you under false pretenses

>>84590316
>average men only care about sex especially in my age group.
Im 23, never had sex, dont wanna until i get married, i know plenty of guys in the same situation as me but i have never seen a woman even remotely interested in anything long term, unless its with a milionaire

>>84589593
i dont think your totally but it does depend on the guy to be honest. outside of hardcore religious types your not going to find anyone who really buys into the idea of waiting for sex till marriage. because its an idea that only exists logically in that context otherwise it comes off like your making them jump through hoops to win for pussy

>>84590282
did you fuck enough niggers that it lowered your iq? seems like it

>>84590316
>what even is your definition of a real relationship
in this context
>mutual permanent literal ownership
>no boundaries
>no dishonesty and
>only other oriented ownership intentions(ie. not with x because it makes me happy/useful for me or it's good for us or it's beneficial for our future children, with x because they want other person to be happy. that they functionally keep themselves persist and remain as they are because of the other person.)
forced self oriented other-expectation and milestone is a larp, involving others in mutual ownership is a larp

>>84589593
Imagine spending a whole year plus exclusively courting one woman and then, only after you have permanently committed to not fucking anyone except her for the rest of your life, you find out the sex is bad.

>>84590112
Damn, why does having a different attitude towards sex cause you to seethe?

>>84590377
eww you are a sick degenerate. good thing me being marriage and abstinence-oriented filters out moids like you.

>>84590400
>only after you have permanently committed to not fucking anyone except her for the rest of your life, you find out the sex is bad.

this is like the least of your troubles
the real issue is she'll still cheat after making YOU wait

>>84590410
Woman telling on herself. Men make fun of things that are funny, not things that cause us to seethe.

>>84590579
>Woman telling on herself.
What? I'm a man and you keep insisting I look at sex the way you do when I don't.

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>>84589593
Honestly I rather be with a pretty girl that is sweet to me and doesn't treat me like dog shit or cause problems in my life....
But apparently that is impossible for women

>>84590316
>especially in my age group
would you please disclose what's your age group since it is important for the discussion?

>>84590567
enjoy your transactional larp

>>84589593
If a woman could wait for marriage while dating me for 3-5 years then that's a red flag to me. Why would I want to be with someone who isn't overwhelmed with desire for me?

You have that right. Men act like they want that so virgin, but the moment one appears and wants to make things special by giving her virginity to him on their wedding night, then it's OMG that's such a bad thing!!! Thank God I got a guy that was okay with waiting and it made everything more special giving mine to him at that time.

>>84589915
And approaching women is fuckboy behavior. Guess you and your perfect potential partner are never going to meet.
I do think that it's a real problem that lots of people will never meet their perfect match because both them and the match are unlikely to approach or otherwise find each other. People that don't like hookup culture want to get into relationships with similar people but since they avoid dating apps, bars and clubs, they have no decent way to meet each other.