I love whores so much its unreal, original!!

i am inclined to believe that all celery is mental celery, but more often than not the juice ain't worth the squeeze. like if i work at a restaurant i can try my luck with the women there but the more girls i flirt with and ask out the more i'm likely to be seen as a sex pest. the same rule applies everywhere. you only get so many tries with the local women before it starts to look bad.

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>>84593031
They're beating around the bush in essence
>oh so you're involuntarily celibate? Just rape someone then. See, you're not involuntarily celibate
>oh so you're an incel? Have you tried fucking an animal like a sheep or a dog? No? Then you're not an incel
>oh so you're an incel? Buy a pocket pussy. You can literally get pussy but you refuse to, interesting.

When someone refers to themselves as an incel, especially if they're self-referring and not using it as an insult, it's pretty clear what the meaning is. Like when you read my post, it's obvious that I'm not talking about literally hitting a bush, so we can stop pretending we don't understand what an incel is.

Incels choose to be incels.

>>84593031
Sure, I guess, but it's also illegal in many countries so you are asking for them to break the law.
But in any case, that's about sex. Sex doesn't matter as much, there are more important things.

>>84593031
So you pay, and then you see nothing but repulsion coming from the stacy you just bought, and she can't wait for you to leave, how are you still not an incel?
I have zero chance of getting laid without paying. Fuck sake I paid a girl to kiss me and when it came down to doing it, I pussied out. Having sex is a whole next level of being a human, I can only imagine. Rejection fucking hurts imagine a stacy letting you have access to her body, this is some impossible shit.
At least we have the internet, there are many ways you can live an easy life even as an incel

the prostitution route is basically like taking out a big loan and then saying youre rich

>>84593197
Ah yes, you can choose not to have women interested in you
>>84593031
Because those arent arguments. Those are troll posts at best
>"incels don't exist because hookers/prostitutes/sex workers exist"
Thats not a consenting, legal relationship. Thats an illegal forced practice, thus you can still be an incel. Its like saying incels dont exist because they can stick their dicks in trees
>"incels aren't real because just be nice to women, that is all it takes
Doesnt work and being nice to women is an ick to them and gives them major creep vibes

>>84593031
>"incels don't exist because hookers/prostitutes/sex workers exist"
I guess. But go the prostitute route is still soul draining since you're doing it with someone who doesn't give a fuck about you nor be in your company unless your throw out enough cash. Plus, there's the varying quality of these broads who may or may not be walking STD trasnmitters.
>"incels aren't real because just be nice to women, that is all it takes"
Blatant lie. If you show someone a pic of a guy who's a fatass or otherwise disheveled who's not getting women, people will immediately change their tune to "Oh, he should hit the gym/work on his style more!"

>>84593287
Incels choose to actively avoid doing anything that wouls get them a gf.

>>84593371
Which is? You do realize most people on here socialize. Go to bars, hobby groups and so on right?

>>84593031
I'm not a psycho. That's my rebuttal. Only psychos are insane enough to engage with literal and figurative whores. STDs and violent chimpouts aren't fun. "You're big fat pussy!" Yeah, I know. Deal with it.

>>84593385
Incels never talk to girls or ask them out or sign up for dating apps.

>>84593385
Most people on here don't leave their rooms and live with their parents while on neetbux anon....

>>84593882
>>84593860
>>84593371
many incels tried to get pussy and failed, and kept failing. they failed so much that they gave up hope. people dont have infinite willpower. it's hard to just keep going when you see no signs of success. that's human nature, that is not a flaw of the incel, that's a flaw of being human. many of them, myself including, would be happy with literally one woman showing romantic interest in us
>>there's someone out there for everyone!
well she sure is taking her sweet time appearing and I do not have infinite time to wait either. Truth is humans arent as individualistic as you think. millions of people can share the same opinion. millions of people like coke cola. billions of women dont find me attractive.

That's the thing with pussy. it's a The Rich Get Richer situation. If you can attract one woman then you can get another

So ffs stop spreading this false narrative that incels just arent trying hard enough, when normal people dont have to try at all. Incels are tired of trying in his blatantly unfair dating market

>>84593031
The funniest part to me is the "just be nice to women" bit, since it proves that most people are uncomfortable with the idea of someone doing everything they're supposed to and still ending up an unlovable loser, so they have to mentally portray them as must being bad people to end up that way.

>>84593882
Thats a strawman. Most of the people on here have jobs and do a lot of social stuff like hobby groups and so on. Women just dont attend those

>>84593031
There's no point arguing, women will never get it. Men literally appear lile magic for them, they can't understand that doesn't happen for us

>>84593938
Incels never try. They only make up excuses for not trying.

>>84594144
Again never try what most people here
>exercize a lot
>attend many spcial events
>go to hobby groups
>groom
>have proper haircuts
>dress well
>have stable job
And cannot land a single date but please tell us how thats not akshully trying

>>84593031
>>"incels don't exist because hookers/prostitutes/sex workers exist"
Yeah, I guess I could also just rape someone.

>>84593031
>What is your rebuttal to "incels aren't real because....." arguments like those for example?
Standards.

>>84593031
>hookers/prostitutes/sex workers exist
No they don't. They're literally illegal and if you try to find one you will go to prison.

>>84593031
female sexuality create incels. no debate

>>84594375
only if you live in north korea or something open for example euroescort and you get thousands of pussies


there is no rebuttal because it completely destroys incel rhetoric
>muh feelings
then you are something else. just a loser for lack of a better word for now but you can still have sex

>>84593031
they are rights, incels can pick up local 80 year old single granny anytime. as an identity it's retarded

>>84594445
female sexuality really exists in post coupled state or social scenario that simulates it

>>84594121
i feel like the board keeps the actual demographics vague or else the board logic falls apart.
but there are definitely enough successfags that are actually just picky instead of incels

>>84594340
Incels do none of those.

>>84594942
I have an office jobs, make twice the average wage in my yuropoor shithole and go to all the meme activities spammed on here (muh hobby clubs, muh volunteering, muh sunday school, muh dance classes).
Never had a girl be into me ever

>>84595011
>exercize a lot
>attend many spcial events
>go to hobby groups
>groom
>have proper haircuts
>dress well
>have stable job
I do all of those and I am an incel. Never had a single date or have a single girl be interested in me.
Not bald, baldikg, fat, brown or below 6ft either

>>84595014
>be into me
did you flirt and try to court anyone? women don't usually just hand it over unless you're chad

>>84595033
Yes, as much as i can.
Never had a single date. Didnt get a single match on dating apps either

>>84595041
are you just really ugly? i'm kind of like this except less successful. you're mostly likely doing something wrong or hitting on the wrong women, but i'm not gonna act like maybe you haven't just been terminally rejected by women (as you know, they are a hivemind and share everything)

>>84595020
Have you ever asked a girl out? Or signed up for a dating app?

>>84595011
But I do, and the only answers I get from women are

>sorry, you're too short for me
>sorry , I don't date Indian guys

>>84595062
I am ugly but not super ugly
>something wrong
Not being born an attractive upper class model probaably

>>84595068
>asked a girl out
Multiple times. Never worked
>dating apps
I am on 2 dating apps + 2 language learning apps. Never had a single actual match or convo with a girl

>>84595098
if you're legitimately making double the avg wage in your country you can definitely get a relationshit, emphasis on the shit but still. it's just a matter of deciding how much time you invest into finding one
alternatively, you can take the open door pill which argues for most people it's just a matter of asking politely, but for this to work a certain subset of people need the closed door

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>>84594887
>you're not an incel. Just rape the elderly.
>>84594877
>you're not an incel. Just rape the poor.
>>84593882
>Most people on here don't leave their rooms and live with their parents while on neetbux anon....
>you're not an incel. Just become rich and neurotypical, so you can then rape poor people.
>>84593197
>You're not an incel. Incels are volcels.
>>84594942
It's true. But the ironic part is that successfags are only successful because they gave up on Disney love and sex. They're like Clavicular, except they didn't shoot for looks. Now they're in their 30s and can finally get women, but are socially autistic and don't really understand how to not get eaten alive by foids or set healthy bounderies. They aren't suddenly Chad. They just go from being incels to being mentalcels, where they're too fucked up to get sex and just get increasingly more salty that it's not what they want and they follow Kermit down the slide in the sewer.

They can rent infinite onaholes. But at that point, they might as well buy one for cheaper, and those ones can be washed, and they don't need to be fed or taken care of, don't have STDs, can't blackmail you, and don't complain.

Half of it is the incel stuff, that getting a woman is like getting a job. It's borderline impossible and a full time unpaid job to even try. The other half is that there's no male role model to follow. Who are we supposed to be? Most moids just want sex because of the shame and despair that comes from not having it.

Sex is like food or water or clothing or air. Once you have it, you don't care about it anymore. Moids spend their whole lives chasing sex, and what develops by the time they jump through all the hoops is not a man, but a child, since he did not have the opportunity to grow up. He was stuck at the bottom rung of Mazlow's higharchy. He was never himself and might never be.

>>84595088
Shouldn't have been born a jeet.

>>84595130
Making just double is not impressive. All you have to do is just not work in my country but work in a neighbouring one.
> deciding how much time you invest into finding on
I invest about 8/10 hours a week into finding one.
Never had a single date

>>84595110
Your profile must be really shitty and low effort if you don't get a single match.

>>84595174
No, its just an average one with pics of me at work events, with my dogs, on hikes... the usual stuff.

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>>84593031
>hooker
it's not really about sex

>just be nice to women
they are not nice to me, like whatever I say or do they act dismissive, they in fact verbatim say it is wrong to "bother" women, even though I am far less pushy than their current boyfriend when he was courting them

I mean, cut the crap, you must have seen chad pulling off girls' swimwear or straight up slapping their ass at the club and every one laughs, I'd never do anything like that, I try to talk to women first and try not to say anything cringe or creepy, yet I am "bothering" them, I am "harassing" them I am making them "uncomfortable".

I'm tired of the gaslighting. Many boys are ostracized as early as age 11 or so and left to rot by society alone as teenagers. Now as adults it is almost impossible to socialize with our peers, at least in the mainstream modern western communities we grew up in. We are locked out. You look at young people having fun and every girl is there and only the top 60% of men, and of those maybe a third are huddled in a corner hoping they can mingle with the women and if they do they are subject to high school tier bullying turbo judgmentalism for every tiny thing they do. All while the popular fashionable men act like jackasses. Everywhere you go it's the same thing.

It is still possible to get a gf, but you have to fucking move town, you have to cheat the system, you have to veer to the right, find traditional christian women who hate ethnic minorities and abortion, you have to do sleazy shit, you have to "bother" women. You basically have to do everything the feminists and normies tell you not to do.

>>84595191
their last boyfriend rather

>>84595180
Average men get plenty of matches

>>84595146
take the open door pill

>>84595171
it could be that you just need to learn how to socialize better. if you are finding yourself in groups with women and get LITERALLY zero chances or dates it's because you're kind of weird, which you need to change. groups actually enjoy it when their members go on dates because it's kind of like additional dirt and vetting and insight into who they are. so most groups will let people date with fairly little resistance initially, but you only get so many chances. but if you're in groups and literally not having any luck you're obviously doing something very, obviously wrong

>>84595200
Not really. Theres a lot of average men on apps and women have hundreds of options

>>84595236
Theres no such groups. My city is litteraly dead and women are pnly on apps. Ive tried with some colleagues and some people i met in bars or a few events but never had a any luck

>>84595278
Men have hundreds of option.

>>84595287
it's very unlikely there are no groups whatsoever. you mostly just don't know where to look and how to get in... which granted is not easy. or hell just grind out the apps, you'll get a match eventually.... it just takes a lot of time. or, you know, you might be doing something terribly and obviously wrong. or someone sabotaged your identity

>>84595331
What are my hundreds of options then. Where are they?

>>84595351
>you mostly just don't know where to look
Ive looked everywhere. Litteraly everywhere. There isnt a single one
>grind out on the apps
Tried for 2 years, i think ill just delete them and give up on truing to find someone at that point

>>84595174 Get the f out of here. No one chooses to be this way. You will never understand our pain so stop harassing us with your nonsense.

>>84593031
>poor people don't exist because you can just rob a bank.
>unemployment isn't real because just be nice to the HR women.

pretty whores have a no blacks policy

>>84595409
2 years is not a long time in app time. i've been on apps from 2011-2021 and got one date ever from it

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>>84593031
Giving a universal prognosis for an absence of something is always going to fail - there's a reason why the hardest programming bugs to solve are the ones where the expected behavior doesn't show up in any form, or why searching for your keys usually turns into a frantic delousing of the entire house.

If you put all the 'incels don't exist because <x>' reasons together you'd probably end up with a statement that's entirely true but entirely useless as actual advice. My understanding and intuition tells me that the majority of incels have a path to finding love and fulfillment, but the prescription needs to come from a full understanding of their life and psyche, which is, unfortunately, impossible to gather from isolated forum posts.

you the type of nigga to just shrug when i ask why you don't just ride a bike

>>84593031
Inceldom has to do with being genetically undesireable. Yes you can pay a prostitute some places but it won't make the prostitute desire you, she's just doing her job.

>>84593031
> hookers/prostitutes/sex workers exist
This is basically just masturbation but more expensive and grosser.
>"incels aren't real because just be nice to women, that is all it takes"
I have no context in which to interact with women.

>>84593938
>there's someone out here for everyone!
Statistically untrue. Theres twice as many single young men than women. With population growth going downwards, it only gets worse from here.

>>84593031
>What is your rebuttal to "incels aren't real because....." arguments
To remind them that disabled and mentally ill people exist; that 50% of incels when surveyed admit to having autism and 30% have anxiety and/or depression.
I remind them that there are people who spend all of the formative years in prison like environments completely away from any sort of meaningful interaction with female peers which likely had some detrimental effect on their social development.
I would remind them that there are plenty of men to have lived huge chunks of their lives in near total social isolation.
I would remind them that not everyone realistically has access to hookers just because they exist somewhere abstractly in the world.
I will remind them that there are quite a few men who grew up from being abused boys and might still be being abused even as a man which would effect them in a number of ways that would make it difficult to connect with others, form relationships, or properly socialize.