Antinatalists/Pessimists: "People hate, kill, beat, take advantage of, and abuse each other. Suffering is intrinsic to being alive so having kids is immoral."Pronatalists: *Mindless screeching and mental gymnastics*
>>84611832true or falseOP being born is better than not?
>>84611832it doesnt matter if its wrong or immoral as it will continue to happen, probably even moreso if the people who think this stuff is bad dont have kids
>>84611905Retarded argument
>>84611832suffering happens. Stop being a fucking sensitive pussy. You will die alone and mad. My children ( I have 2) will continue the human race. Anti natalists are always the biggest fucking losers and pussies.
>>84611930Children end up resenting their parents 90% of the time assuming they don't have low iq. You are retarded
being leg-locked feels good though
>>84611832>retarded people choose to be selfish instead of having kids because of completely unrelated things that have nothing to do with them>normal people: "ok bud, let me guess you still eat food to keep living life though"in the same breath that you talk bad about the things that make quality of life bad, you are revealing that life itself is a good thing that should be preserved. by saying that killing or abuse is "immoral", you are also saying that not having children is immoral by definition, you just don't want the responsibility of moral behavior in a world where immorality happens (having kids, preserving life, helping others, spreading joy)
>>84612056All of those bad things come with life, retard. That makes life bad.>By saying that killing or abuse is "immoral", you are also saying that not having children is immoral by definitionThis doesn't even make sense.
Yeah I wish i wasnt born this is fucking awful
>>84611856False.I never asked to be trapped here.Existence is both a gift and a curse.Just because I value my existence continuing now that I have it, dose'nt nesicarlly mean existing is preferable to never existing in the first place. If you never exist you can never suffer and die.
>>84611832antinatalists: I hate my life and want to killmyself therefore my kids will also hate their lives and want to kill themselves. There's NO WAY that people could enjoy their lives and feel happy about existing, NO WAY!
>>84612075Yes it does. Why is killing immoral? Because it ends a life?I thought life was bad though?
>>84611832Well the thing is most people who are born don't mind perpetuating the cycle while those who mourn their existence are like collateral damage >>84612138It's bad because it's the thing that makes you experience loss, including loss of lifeYou could say life is bad because it precedes death if anything because being is what implies not being
>>84612118Happiness is a delusion. You enjoy entropy and bite the shit with glee. Not OP.
>>84612118I recognize that it is possible, but most people tend to have a bad time. Their entire purpose for being here is to produce loosh, suffering makes you're nipples ooze loosh.
You do you man.I just hope you are not white.
>>84612258I am.But that doesn't matter since race is another social construct to further divide humanity. Dumbass.
>>84612287It doesnt devide shit it unites tribes that can survive vs outsiders.Muds have it right with their saying "me against my brother, us both vs out father, our family against our neighboors, our village vs the other"Its more about islam as a whole but still applies.
>>84611832>bad things happenSo what? Good things happen too.
>>84612203>Happiness is a delusion.So's suffering. Good or bad, these things exist only in your head.
>>84611832>F-fuck breeders!