>God will never leave me nor forsake meThe woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRXDYvpA020
>>84615307Why do you promote the most edgiest pastor? Steven Anderson.
>>84615307One cannot live in any moment other than the present, recent trends feel like they'll last forever, and what has been normalized tends to feel like it has always been common.
>>84615324He got me saved, has an effective preaching style, therefore I think he can be used to save other robots. Jonathon Shelley is probably a little edgier.
>Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.Missed an opportunity like this today, despite being able to and wanting to help. Being prepared and aware of your surroundings is important. I need to grow up, embarrassed at how often I mess up opportunities (in general).
>mfw jew worship cults will end in your lifetime
>>84615503>declineMust be even worse in Europe
>>84615503I don't view Lutherans, Catholics, Orthodox, etc as Christian, what I view as biblical Christianity is growing.
>>84615682Furthermore, questioning is good. Christianity is a circular system (self authenticating) If the loop is incomplete, either it's false or your own understanding is lacking. I would not have people half believe in something."Prove all things" should be a Christian motto, not something atheists who've never questioned why they believe in abiogenesis can champion. This sort of cultural victory for lazy, easily countered beliefs such as atheism won't ever reoccur, as long as mass communication remains in the hands of the common people. Therefore internet crackdowns are a cause I am also against.
>>84615307Why so raped?
>>84616091I remember you Nazi-anon, here was my reply from a couple threads ago if you didn't read it.>>84600388
>ONEE-SAMAAAAAAA!Sei is a sex fiend.
>>84616258Seriously, look at Sei. Groping Yumi out of nowhere.
>>84616257If one holds that the bible is true, then, aside from their core doctrines (mode of salvation) contradicting what the bible states repeatedly, then the only reasons that Germany lost the war, and was heavily punished would've been >1. That what they were doing (public knowledge) was wrong, and they were being punished for their behaviour until now>2. That what they were doing (not historically known) was wrong, and they were being punished for their behaviour until now>3. They were not Christian, and God did not regard their prayers for victory.I see it as a symptom of them not being Christian, as I stated in >>84615682 You would see WW2 was the prayers of Anglicans and Baptists overcoming Catholics to some extent (the Orthodox in Russia also suffered under communism).
>>84616284And to a lesser extent, the woes of South Africans and Calvinism (although some who'd claim that name are saved)
>>84616284An easy counter for Catholics/ Catholic variants (Lutherans, etc) would be that Germany was being punished by God for the holocaust, or being militarily aggressive, and I wouldn't argue further, seeing as this is merely a supplementary point against them (primary the issue is that the core of their religion is incompatible with the bible)
>>84615307Currently reading the Bible blind as an atheist. My father and mother are atheists so I have zero knowledge about Christianity. I read Luke first, then Acts, then Genesis, which I finished yesterday, and plan to read Exodus today. I'm surprised about how real Genesis sounded once Abraham was introduced. I thought it would be a bunch of ridiculous magical stories but it feels like a manuscript of history that more or less actually happened, even if you remove all the God stuff. Enjoying it so far, would appreciate any tips. Probably the biggest thing I'm worried about is read order. I couldn't find an order on any website to read book by book at my own pace. Just gave in and asked Gemini to make one for me, starting with the books in the Protestant Bible then finishing off with all the books that are only in the Catholic Bible. I have a New Catholic Bible if it matters.
>>84616314What was suggested to me when I was trying to read it is start with the NT first. Then, read the OT asking "why we needed Jesus." You can attempt to put yourself in the mind of a Christian to figure that out. There are themes in the OT that relate back to what Jesus did during his ministry, like the crucifixion being the final sin offering.
>>84616314I don't think there will be any lasting benefit if you don't start with John, it's the book written to convert nonbelievers. In general, the bible is a living book, and can't really be understood without faith, regardless of your thoughts on Christianity, it's better to start with John.>New Catholic BibleGenerally people who read the bible regularly read the King James Version, because what it's translated from is more reliable bases (Textus Receptus and the Masoretic texts) than the modern versions (pic rel is a poorly presented, but you get the idea). The thees and thous seem a bit daunting at first, your brain will adapt to it pretty quickly (similar to reading Shakespeare, or any literature from that period). If it really bothers you, you can read the 21KJV instead, but the NKJV is trash and should be avoided. If you read 3 chapters a day, you'll get through it in a year, I find anything more than this is tough. Once you hit the tabernacle section, and the sacrifices (around mid Exodus-Numbers), I recommend outright just skipping those sections, or reading out loud. It will take a few read throughs of the bible to start understanding the symbolic significance of this stuff (the ram in gen 22etc), and it will kill your motivation to progress, so I think it's better avoided if you plan on doing a once over. Most of 1 Chronicles is the same. Job is probably very readable if you've ever sat through anything by Plato, but it's another book that kind of drags, because most of the book is Job's friends mixing truth and lies (which takes some discernment). You can outright skip the apocrypha.In general it's good to remember, what the narrator says is always true. What human characters say isn't necessarily true, but it's true that they said it. Judges and Ecclesiastes are some of the best reading, John and Romans keep a lot of verses core to understanding salvation. Sorry to snow you with text, reading the whole thing is an undertaking, good luck to you.
>>84615709>Christianity is a circular system (self authenticating)>"Prove all things" should be a Christian mottoare you fucking with me? or actually just that retarded?
>>84616512The KJV is way more available than the 21KJV (the most printed book in history), which is why I suggest it, despite some of the archaic language. The singular you (thee) also helps translate some of the language more directly than just using 'you', which can be singular or plural.
>>84616527Both are true anon, the bible is true on its own, and reality agrees with it as a result. Anything untrue can't be self-authenticating, because it would contradict with itself, or reality.
>>84616547>it would contradict with itself, or reality.it does. it does both of these. multiple fucking times
>>84616512Appreciate it anon. I do plan on reading the KJV after I finish the NCB. Certainly not immediately after, but eventually, probably after some medieval period lit as a precursor. I tried reading it first but a lot was lost on me, so I figured reading something with modern English would be better for a first read.
>>84616630It doesn't anon, if you think it does, post the occurrence, going to sleep soon, but I'll correct any confusion in the next thread.>>84616635Medieval or early English is closer to French, totally unintelligible. Jacobian English (technically the start of modern English) is read in highschools through Shakespeare. It's rough to read for like 15 minutes, but then your brain starts to convert it somehow, I wouldn't waste too much time on a bible that ruins key verses, but it's better to do as one pleases when studying.
Do you know our Holy God?It is a pure white lamb, raised with the smallest possible penis that does what it's told, the object of our salvation.>If you call on Him as your Father who judges impartially according to each one's works, behave with reverent fear and deep respect for Him throughout your sojourn on earth. For they know that they were not redeemed from their vain way of life, inherited from their ancestors, with perishable things such as silver and gold, but were bought with precious blood, like that of a sacrificial lamb, without spot or blemish, the priceless blood of Christ. For He was predestined before the foundation of the world, but He has manifested Himself in these last times for your sake, and through Him you believe in God, who raised Him from the dead and gave Him glory, so that your faith and hope are in God.All who inhabit the earth will worship the beast; all those whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb, the Lamb who was slain from the foundation of the world. - Revelation 13:8 _
"For God so [greatly] loved and dearly prized the world, that He [even] gave His [One and] only begotten Son, so that whoever believes and trusts in Him [as Savior] shall not perish, but have eternal life." - John 3:16
