>unintentionally calls women stupid
>>84615435why not discuss all threewhy not read a biography every once in a while
>>84615435This only has weight because Socrates said it.
>>84615462Find proof that socrates actually said it.analyse the idea itself, is it correct?
>>84615480Not really. In reality, ideas, events and people are all intertwined and separating them is for the weak mind that can't comprehend a whole vision of the world. People create ideas, ideas create events, events create ideas, ideas create people (of certain sort). All of them are worth consideration. If you neglect the reality of "people" you are gonna end up on a pike, homeless and generally trashed.
>>84615435women can choose to stop being like that at any time
>>84615510You say this either because you're coping or because you have very limited experience with real life discussion. OP quote is obviously right, regardless of source, as anyone will have seen themselves.
>>84615462you're a gigantic faggot who likes taking cocks up his ass--- Socrates OldYea B.C.
>>84615553in this real life, do you often discuss ideas with the strongtistically minded?
Goku kicks Socrates ass.
>>84615435Socrates didn't even consider women to be people (they are not)
>>84615603>Limits we place on ourselvesa 160 5'7 chud cannot beat a 6'4 chad in a fight or sexual selection
>>84615617>Then you haven't met my good friend Bejita! He's not that tall but he's an incredible fighter.
>>84615630>both get mogged to oblivion and back by a 9'10 chad
>>84615630unless the chad has equal weight or equal training then the advantage always goes to the chad, more swing power with punches and legs due to longer limbs plus range advantage
>>84615435He looks like creepy incel.>Socrates married his primary wife, Xanthippe, when he was in his late forties to early fifties. Xanthippe was much younger, estimated to be roughly 20 to 24 years old at the timeAnd a pedo.
>>84615639Bro got turned into a poop monster in Bio Broly. He got owned.
>>84615553>very limited experience with real life discussion. This is true but this is irrelevant to the topic at hand because 99% of irl discussion are that of weak minded. To have a strong minded discussion you need to meet an exceptionally intelligent person and such experience is obviously gonna be very limited.
>>84615653He was a pederast like all ancient greek philosophers.
>>84615653>>84615701>20 to 24 years old>pedowhat?
>>84615435I came to this conclusion a long time ago just by listening to people's conversations on the bus or in public,.w/e.Yes it seems juvenile when guys start talking sports/hobbies or whatever, but half of the time it's really a discussion about the philosophy of that thing in itself, like what criteria makes one player better than a other usually implies a standard that could be ethical (like discipline/sportsmanship) or essential (physical/genetic), etc., and so if you pay close attention, men are often discussing their values through the medium that they happen to be interested in.Hence why banal discussions like Bruce Lee vs X come up all the time, it's about what Bruce Lee or Ali or whoever represents to the speaker, and often argument against Bruce/whoever aren't about the reality of a fight itself but actually a rejection of cultural narratives and idolising a person to mythic proportions vs the pro cultural mythos which that figure represents.Whereas if you listen to women talk, no matter how more complex it may seem than the debate of Bruce Lee vs Jackie Chan, it is never rooted in anything beyond the literal description of events, and signifies nothing about the speakers beliefs, even all judgemental statements are veiled in duplicity. And if you witness a women get pushback or talk about the same event with multiple people separately, you will see how the overall takeaway of the event is malleable, as in they are happy to change their judgements about something as long as they get to talk about what happened.
>>84615737>50 years old marries 20 years old girl
>>84615783Is this idea, event or people?
>>84615791Team asuka all the way
>thread is about discussing people
>>84615791I always thought about their body temperature, Rei seems cold and Asuka hot or warm.
>>84615827>cold damage bullets
>>84615435Philosophers are high on their own shit. People execute ideas
>>84615791Can you not understand my point? I'm saying that even in within the average discussion of events and people that men typically partake in, there is still the abstract and philosophical alot of the time. But not with women.Or if you're talking about my own statement, it's an extrapolation on gender differences using a general impression through observation. So it's certainly not concrete events or people.It's precisely my point, I'm not actually talking about women on the bus even if I'm utilising the event.A woman will never do that. She wants to talk about that specific bitch on the bus with the trashy clothes on and bad dye job.
>>84615784>oh no! not the scorn of some 20 year olds, oops i mean "children", at a party
>>84615848You misunderstand. There is frequent discussion of people and events in the socratic dialogues, no one is saying that people and events aren't valuable.Of course people are necessary to execut ideas, but it is the stepping back from specific events and people to look at the overall pattern that best informs the ideas that people will later execute.If you spend all your time focused on one war, it's unlikely you could be considered an expert on war in its entirety, because what are you comparing it to?That's what the quote is in reference to. The idea of war transcends any one war, and it is questioning what that criteria is and what is most relevant throughout wars in general that would allow you to best adapt your strategy as a specific person executing those ideas.That's why people read Thucydides, Clausewitz, and Sun Tzu to this day, even their actual warfare was outmoded, the idea transcends the individual and the events.
>>84615783I get you. OP is just there to make people pretentious and sniff thier own farts, because of how they discuss things. Some examples related to clothesPeople can discuss things directly by referencing a specific hoe looking trashyOr indirectly by discussing things like colour theoryNiether one makes one person smarter than the other because in order to make a nice dress you need both groups of people
>>84615897And if you have all your soldiers busy thinking about tactics all day you are going to lose because that's retarded"Thinking" abstractly doesn't make you "smart". Knowing which tool is best for the job makes you successful.
>>84615918>speak the obvious that's unrelated as if it's that a counterargumentAnon, you're retarded.
Is this the part where I am supposed to say "I accept your concession"?If your response is something other than a continuation of the discussion I will assume you have nothing of value to say
>>84615858>Can you not understand my point?Mine point is Rei vs Asuka can be that everything from philosophical idea to waifufagging.
>>84615435basically autists vs men vs women
>>84615435>let's talk about this great person and world-historic event!>ah, I see you are average to weak minded!Socrates was a retard and Athens did nothing wrong
Are there any major philosophers who thought of women as more than cattle?
>>84615435>MUH HECKIN HUWHITE GENOCIDERINO!!chuds eternally BTFO
>>84615435>>84615462Socrates didn't say it and you're discussing people
>>84617245What does that have to do with subject of this thread?
>>84617207Basically not.Interesting how supposedly thinking about things leads to the same implicit conclusions.
>>84617207Weird I never heard of this. Please tell me more
>Weak minds discuss hitlerTrue