A man could expect sex after the first date and go to bars to find his weekly hookup, and no one bats an eye. If a guy, however, values the exact opposite of this, deciding to go to a church to find a virgin for marriage, society considers this the most wicked of crimes. And what difference does it make if the guy isn't a virgin and wants a virgin wife? You can be a hypocrite on height, money, looks, specific personality traits, valuing something else in a partner that you yourself do not possess, and no one bats an eye. Why is there so much stigma towards men who want virgins?
You really, really should be able to figure this out on your own. It's the simplest explanation.
>>84621673This thread was made by a man.I don't fucking care. I just want her to have big tits, you stupid retard.
>>84621673Women want to waste their most fertile years choosing sex partners that won't marry them, and then settle down at 30 with Mr Right. It's the vanity and ego of women that spoils their future, being addicted to cheap attention from men and wanting to extend their carefree high school teenaged years into their 30s.
>>84621682What is it?>>84621703I understand why women would rage at this, the ones who are older and have to compete with younger women, but why do guys also jump aboard this bandwagon of shaming men for wanting virgins?
>>84621673Because, women who want to commit but aren't virgins will look for non virgin men as well, then will proceed and insult modest men calling them incels to feel better about themselves and their 300 heartbreaks over the years. Simple logic really
>>84621710>why do guys also jump aboard this bandwagon of shaming men for wanting virgins?simps
>>84621710I haven't noticed men doing it as much, but there are some men that prefer the idea of a slutty sexually active woman for various reasons, whether they think she's going to be easy to screw or he won't have to treat her with respect.
>>84621673Because almost no women are virgins so its an attack on women as a whole because youre not allowed to not want them, its them whos supposed to not want you
>>84621673>Why is there such visceral hatred towards men who want virgin spouses?Because a man who wants a virgin spouse is ruling out women who aren't virgins. Such women are thus going to be somewhat upset, since it's basically an insult. This happens to be most women.Naturally, their simps (basically all the married men plus a lot of the single ones) will defend them.
>>84621673>wanting a virgin wifefine>wanting a christard wifenot fine, you'll raise brainlet childrenyou should go for intelligent women, not cultists
>>84621710Firstly you're misusing some terms like "society" in ways that don't apply to the right groups.I'll keep it short as possible, men wanting virgins is actively excluding whore women, whore women are mad, simp men want whore women, simp men do the bidding of whore women to amplify their petty anger over chad wanting a virgin instead of a used up failed onlyfans reject. When you can't improve your quality your other option is to try to bring down others instead. It's like how old women hate that younger women are more attractive and better in nearly every way and try to socially engineer men to pick washed up emotionally mangled chad-chasing hags that couldn't tie any down despite their long history of situationships while being a side-piece.They're finally ready to settle down with a 5-7 man instead of 8+ but now those men no longer want them, the only way to get some of them back is to attempt to socially engineer them via societal shame. Do not listen to these whores, just do what you want.
>>84621763Hey, cultists can be smart too! I'm gonna find myself the smartest sexy virgin cultist wife and you can't stop me!
>>84621763Where in actuality would you even find a secular virgin wife?
>>84621786At the bottom of the barrel, one might suppose.
>>84621786im catholic, secular at most. youll never find a wife, give up like america did to the soilders deported to vietnam. its officially over
>>84621786Same place you'd find a Christian virgin wife. I.E., definitely not a church lol, those are full of "born again virgins" who "found Jesus".
>>84621800I get the impression that you have not been to all that many churches in your time.
>>84621786I'm a secular KHHV fembot.
>>84621898Is that intentionally so, or was that just as the dice were cast? And if it was intentional... Why?
>>84621916I suppose I could have lost it long ago, it wouldn't be hard as a woman, so it is intentional. I'm waiting for the right person. I want to be in love with the person I lose my virginity to.
>>84621834Been to quite a lot, actually, that's how I know it.
>>84621673>Why is there such visceral hatred towards men who want virgin spouses?Cuz it reflects the collective male incompetence of not being able to control women. That is also why most men have a visceral hatred towards men who managed to bag a virgin wife who wasn't ran through by other dudes as those men who had to settle down with sluts know deep down they are cuckolds who will give birth to pseudo bastard children carrying slut-cuckold ancestry.
>>84621923Good choice, tough to make it that far with all of the poisoned media out there. Have any other good values? Properly racist against those that want you harmed or do you harbor suicidal empathy like too many women?
>>84621942I don't really care about what people say, it's my life. I'm pretty degenerate outside of my family values to be honest.
>>84621673You know the answer the whole time.
>>84621923The one who asked here, I was just wondering because as a "crazy cultist" myself I have a very different perspective on these kinds of things than the average population, so even seeing that we agree on some things we might have wildly different reasons for why we agree. So I asked.
>>84621960Oh? I also value family but could be considered fairly degenerate, I create my morals and values from my own reasoning and experience instead of listening to the popular opinion of morons.In what ways do you consider yourself degenerate?
>>84621925How curious. My own experience has led to nearly the opposite conclusion.
You are not a virgin out of virtue. Your eyes are completely corrupted and deflowered. How can you claim to want le epic tradcath wife whilst posting a skimpy woman and getting off online.
>>84622052>TradcathNot a chance! The creeds were formed without the divine authority of the keys given to Saint Peter.
>>84621994I have a lot of piercings, I'm into a lot of kinks/fetishes. I'm also a leftist, which some people would consider degenerate.
>>84622089Well it does depend on what kind of leftist, doesn't it? If you're genuinely directionbrained then yeah you're degenerate. But if it's just a matter of your opinions on government policy, like you want free healthcare and shit then no you're not necessarily degenerate you just don't understand economics.
>>84622089Oldstyle reasonable leftist (feels almost conservative these days) or orange-man-bad+immigrants are our strength leftist? What kinks and fetishes?
>>84622146>What kinks and fetishesHe's obsessing over the sexual behaviors of an anonymous poster claiming to be a woman! Get him!
>>84621673>>84621682>>84621703it's a ridiculous expectation.women aren't going to sit around waiting to be some fat loser's bangmaid and they definitely don't want children with you losers
>>84622207men with some spine and self-respect aren't going to wife up some ran through loser whore as a wife, unless of course she has plenty of monetary assets she can bring to the table or top 0.5% genetics at the very least.>muh wombplenty of cheaper surrogates are available. Of course, these good-for-nothing loser women will try to ban it but they can keep crying like the good-for-nothing losers they've always been like their whore mothers and cuckold fathers
>>84622207>they definitely don't want children with you losersThey kind of do, it just happens a few years later once you aren't an awkward teenager. At that point though... well you can see guys might be carrying a scar or two.
>>84621673I don't think it's stigmatized that much for men who are virgins themselves.It's just that it's not logical unless you're a highly desirable man *and also* value that particular thing highly for several reasons:1. Being a female virgin is very rare unless you're super young, and if you're not, shooting way younger increases divorce risk and risk of being "used" anyway.2. Female virgins are rarer and also far more sought after than male virgins. Even if a guy says it's equal, it's obviously not, because he's a virgin in a very different circumstance. (Usually guys are virgins because they don't get nearly as much sexual attention as women, and if they did, they wouldn't be virgins.)3. Virginity isn't completely within one's control. A woman may have been the victim of rape. (Not saying all standards have to be within the person's control, but it's worth keeping in mind.)Basically, virgin-only guys have very strict standards. It's the equivalent of a woman who wants a guy in the top few percent of wealth or looks. It means that you may not get what you want, and if you do, you may have to compromise on several other dimensions to do so.Which, you do you, king, but you might select yourself out of the mating pool. It's just reality.
>>84622324*Being a female virgin is very rare unless she's super young, and if you (OP) are not around her age,
Imagine how many of the problems mentioned here would be fixed if women were not artificially incentivised to divorce their husbands, creating an environment where the top n percent of men can't risk getting married but can get sex whenever they want
>Islam was right #6873403784
>>84622324I think it's just far more honourable & dignifying to die single rather than wifing up a ran through slut like a desperate cuckold. One not only brings infinite shame to oneself, but also to their parents and future children, that is of course one even has any sense of shame & honour that is. I mean the avg western male was birthed by a cuckold dad and slut mom ffs, so you can't expect much.
>>84622487> of course one evenof course assuming one even*
>>84622324>shooting way younger increases divorce risk and risk of being "used" anyway.Not as much as marrying a non-virgin does. Marrying a non-virgin boosts the odds up to 50/50 if she's been with one other guy, and it only gets worse as she's had more partners. You are far better off getting a young virgin than a non-virgin who's the same age as you.I for one do not much fancy flipping a coin on whether I get stuck with half my paycheck going to some old woman for the rest of my life.
>>84622487It's better to have future children at all than cuck yourself out of reproducing and them out of existing so you can die on this hill imo.You can moralfag though. It's a free country.>>846225411. This data is completely wrong on divorce stats.2. That's almost never how alimony works even if you don't have a prenup.3. Just do it and get a good prenup that you can both happy with. (Most people have next to no legal knowledge unfortunately, including you. Lawyer up dude.)4. Large age gap is a bigger risk than nonvirgin past some point (est. about 7-10 years is the crossover according to grok). Going way younger to secure a virgin is a bigger risk since she is more likely to use you and then leave you for someone younger that she's more into. (Of course not always, just more likely than someone your own age.)
>>84621673Because there's so many women that don't fit the criteria, and they're bitter about it
>>84622695>1. This data is completely wrong on divorce stats.The CDC is right, you are wrong, and you are retarded.
>>84622705Give the CDC data that shows what you're saying. (Hint: it doesn't say what you think it says, and you're showing the dunning-kruger effect.)
if men started to value virgins againnon virgin women would lose their value (which is correct and natural)
>>84622052Because I am a man and can control my vices and dedicate myself to my wife. A non virgin woman on the other hand is going to the roulette table with my life and wagering half of it.
Retroactive jealousy is a real thing. The thing is that man and woman are concerned about different things.Woman are concerned about the present and future - that's why you do not hear woman complain that their partners had other lovers. They just want to make sure that somebody doesn't steal their man.Man are concerned about the past. And I can't pretend that it doesn't matter. But there are situations and situations, you can't generalize. My friend self reported having an 8 inch dick and got with a virgin woman since she was 14 years old. Yet, 17 year later, she cheated on him in a brutal way. This should not have happened right?I have a gf that had 1 single bf before me. And i managed to outperform him on every possible level imaginable. I even gave her her first orgasm. And acted cool and never asked any questions about her past and demanded she treat me like the only man in her life ever. And in my case the comparison makes her like it more I guess. But at the same time what if he had a dick twice my size and fucked her like crazy? People gaslight you that she is with you and that is all that matters, but don't take into account that maybe she couldn't be with her first choice. And she always thinks of somebody else when thinking about her best sexual experience. Nightmare fuel! Also, imagine her with someones cock in her mouth and you kiss her on the same mouth.Also a lot of woman in churches especially the older singe one are massive whores that convert to maybe get a virgin man to simp for them. Life is suffering. Everybody suffers, the woman and man too. Even Chad most of the time - you can have 1000 woman have sex with you and still not feel ok you woman had sex with 1 guy. She was not your before, she will not be your afterwards, even if you make it to the end death will separate you. and even in Christian views your are no longer sexual partners in heaven.
>>84622695>abstinence is cucking yourselflol. lmao evencuckmaxx all day you want like your cuck daddy who had to cuck himself by marrying your slut of a mother, but count me out Mr Cuck Cuckson. Besides, you'll eventually reach a critical mass of spineless cuckolds, sickos and psychos who'll gurantee the extermination of your species. If anything you're already seeing signs of mass social decay already.
>>84623024Except it is though, figuratively. I used it as an expression.Unless you're not paying taxes, you're paying for the benefits for everyone else's kids. You just aren't having any yourself to benefit.In fact, it's even worse than. A lot of literal cucks, like actual, genuine cucks, at least pass on their genes. Their wife has both their kids and some other guy's. It's a strategy guys use in some circumstances, and why so many men are turned on by it today.TL;DR: Cucks often successfully pass on their genes. So, maybe I was too kind comparing you to actual cucks.
>>84623150I don't pay taxes bud>muh genes survivalall to get btfo'd in an asteroid impact or civilizational self-immolation. Brutal end to have indeed, but something you parasites deserve. How do spineless, honourless cuckolds like you even cope with the notion of having to take care a ran through prostitute who's going to bring shame to your children? Of what use is your genetic survival when you only manage to churn out children with a ran through parasitic prostitute who taints your legacy forever? I understand your urge to defend sluts as your carry the weight of your cuckold dad and slut mother, but c'mon m8, how much in the depths of desperation do you have to be in order to defend something as disgusting as this?
>>84621673Its usually the doble standards that annoy , where the man is used up whore who wants a virgin wife
>>84623185>do spineless, honourless cuckolds like you even cope with the notion of having to take care a ran through prostitute who's going to bring shame to your children? Of what use is your genetic survival when you only manage to churn out children with a ran through parasitic prostitute who taints your legacy forever?This is drivel. I said from the beginning: you do you, king. But we still have natural selection. You can select yourself and your views out of you want.
>>84621703This show you have no theory of mind..If you were only fertile till you are 40, you would also understand what it means for women to have shorter time than men to spend on new things and to experiment. Women have only their 20s to experiment and live their youth and try different things cause they are forced by biology to have to pick a partner in their 30s or they will never be able to have a family
>>84621713>insult modest menNo such thing. Bet these men look at porn. Men have no modesty in them
>>84623226Thank you Cuckson, but what will your future genepool look like when spinelessness, debauchery, infidelity, etc., is selected for en masse? You end with a critical mass of back stabbers, parasites, and absolute trash of human stock who'd rather watch the world burn if it means it can save their ass.
>>84623266 the avg foid literally goons to textual CP and beastiality. Besides that, even women are catching up to men in porn viewership stats. The avg foid is indeed far more nastier and vile than the avg moid indeed. Brutal
>>84621673Because women don't want that expectation held over them.They want to be slutty, slutty whores and slut around as much as possible.They don't want to be accountable. Not to you, not to themselves, not to anyone."Girls just wanna have fun."
>>84621673i was about to defend your opinion as a virgin fembot but then you ruined it with>And what difference does it make if the guy isn't a virgin and wants a virgin wife?it ABSOLUTELY matters. you are allowed to prefer whatever you want but most women who are abstaining until marriage will judge you for this. as a virgin, a man not being a virgin shows me that he does not value chastity. if he prefers virgins, it is a fetish at most. he used other women before and he could do the same to me. then all my abstinence was for nothing. if i got played i wouldn't be the first. us virgin women want to save ourselves for the love of our lives. we want them to be our first and last. you could never appreciate a virgin truly when you fucked other women before. also, for religious abstainers, you committed an unforgivable sin.>>84621786i am abstaining for secular reasons. most of my friends are also virgins but not religious. you can find us hanging out in the library, bookstores, cute cafes, ramen shops.
>>84623257They can "experiment" all they want, they just can't expect anyone who isn't a soi cuckold to want them afterwards
>>84623274>spinelessness, debauchery, infidelityI actively select against those things.Premarital sex isn't the same. A lot of good people have sex before they're married, even with multiple partners.I won't say body count means nothing. It obviously correlates to things that matter. However I get to know the whole package. Intelligence, heart, education level, appropriate age, cultural background, values, personality, etc.
>>84623324Yeah he's being ridiculous imo, especially because it's way easier to remain a virgin as a guy, hence more guys being virgins.Virgin women have more than their picking of virgin guys.
>>84623340>I actively select against those things.you literally don't oh my sweet sweet bastard child. If anything you select for impulsivity, infidelity, and what not. Tf you even yapping? Don't couples who were virgins before marriage show the least divorce rate? Look m8, I understand it sucks to have a whore mother who was ran through by dudes other than your own dad, but there are limits to defending this retardation and you seem to have none and feel proud of being a proud slut-cuckold offspring. You ought to have a name that indicates you were indeed a child of hoe mommy & a cuckold daddy and let's see how proud it is to have that heritage. Worse, let's see if you are even going to be proud enough to have children with a ran through slut yourself.
Islam is exactly what western women deserve.
>>84623379>you select for impulsivity, infidelity, and what notI don't.>hoe mommy & a cuckold daddyYou seem weirdly obsessed with this idea dude. It seems like it's a you thing. Again, select yourself out if you want.
>>84623353>it's easy to remain virgin as a guylol. all it takes is a visit to the brothel or asian massage parlour.>that doesn't count thoughhuh? so foids getting easy sexxo with some drunk retarded chad, no strings attached counts then? If anything it's far easier & less dangerous for men to get sexxo as the man pays with a few bucks whereas the women pays with her reputation. It must be noted that a woman's reputation only matters in a patriarchal society though and not in a spineless, gynocratic hellhole we live in where the avg man was birthed by a hoe and a cuck, so I guess women do have it easy as men are too sissy, faggy & just spineless from the get-go
>>84623397I'm obsessed with your lack of self-respect & dignity bud. Perhaps cuck dad indeed churns out cuck cuckson
>>84623408You proved your own point. The man has to go out of his way looking for it usually. The woman doesn't.The only real equivalent to a woman remaining a virgin is a Chad remaining a virgin, because he gets sexual attention without going out of his way, like women do.And the proof is in the numbers. It's easier for men, especially not so attractive men, to remain virgins longer.
>>84623414You seem weirdly obsessed with cucking. It's some sort of strange pathological fixation.
>>84621673women are experts at manipulating men to do what they want and they consider men to be basically their slaves. Men should spend their lives doing everything to please women, work, die in a war, etc. They manipulate men mainly through 3 means, sex, nagging and shaming.And what women want right now is to have sex with tall athletic men and then later settle down with a wealthy provider.If you say you want a virgin wife, you are going against the current female cultural climate and you WILL be shamed by women and their simps.
>>84621673because everyone can see through it and know you accomplish basic fucking skills as a man if you need a woman with no prior experience. after a certain age if a woman's a virgin and not waiting for marriage, there is something wrong with her same as you but she still wouldn't go for you because she can do better
>>84621673Men who date me want me to sleep with them 2 weeks into dating, but get butt hurt when I've slept with men previously? fucking retards
>>84623513know you can't accomplish*
>>84623287>the avg foid literally goons to textual CP and beastialityLol so imaginery? Men watch naked humans have sex, often also children. Its funny how men try to compare words on a paper to real people
>>84623331Yes they can and they will. Most women marry nice men in their thirties. 20s is for trying out different things and partying
>>84623353>Virgin women have more than their picking of virgin guys.All those men watch porn so they are not pure like I am. They are worthless
>>84621673>And what difference does it make if the guy isn't a virgin and wants a virgin wife? You can be a hypocrite on height, money, looks, specific personality traits, valuing something else in a partner that you yourself do not possessJust because you can be a hypocrite doesn't mean you should.
>>84622052Pope already said masturbation wasn't a sin
>>84623584and all of these same women ride the cock carousel. Also the graphs underestimate female porn viewership
>>84623496>The man has to go out of his way looking for it usually.so does the woman twat. woman's default is not to have sex with strangers. man's default is to have with anyone and everyone. woman going out of her default to have sexo with stranger is just as equivalent as man paying a cheap hooker. Both get easy access that way and it's not something for both of them to be proud about. If you want to play muh free market goypitalism wordplay in the realm of sex, c'mon on then whore.>only equivalent is chad remaining virginlol. keep coping clown
>>84621673Never think that a rule or value society has comes from genuine thinking or integrity. Everyone is a fucking chromagnon and dumber than a pigeon.
>>84621673This one is really easy.A woman can't be virgin anymore.And by saying you only accept virgins, you explicitly give very high value to virgins, and very low value to non virgins.So any woman that is not virgin (so not all women, but close) will instantly understand that they worth nothing.So either they cry accepting reality, or yell and fight to try to maintain the lie.That's why the reaction is so epidermic.Personally, I don't care, I just want low body count (5 or something). I'm older, so I can't ask for perfection either.But even that is seen badly, because lot of women are above that, and thus know they have no value to at least some people.
>>84623640Nah thats all your fantasy. Men who watch porn don't qualify for virgin brides
>>84623928foids who've gooned to smut don't qualify to be virgins either, of roastie my roastie.
>>84623956>ofoh*
>>84623918>I'm older, so I can't ask for perfection eitherAt some point you can't really ask for anything though, right?
>>84623968I would argue you can ask for more as you get older, as long as you are doing the responsible thing, accumulating wealth, bolstering your confidence, and staying fit. I am far more likely to marry a virgin now than I was at 20, simply because I corrected a lot of my flaws
>>84624007Generally you see less virgins as you get older, not more anon. And even aside from that, people lose their looks, have a history of relationships and kids and maybe trauma, etc. And at some point they die. The self-improoving isn't the answer to everything.
>>84623968>At some point you can't really ask for anything though, right?At some point women can't provide anything of value rite? I understand the supply shortage of high quality women who're worth anything. I wish women could stay young forever, but alas they end up being useless as soon as they hop on to just one cock. They could however be useful if that one cock happened to be that of their husbands though, but their usefulness is only confined to their husbands & children and no one else
>>84621673>if the guy isn't a virgin and wants a virgin wife?Because it's disgusting and has different implications from everything else. I don't mind it when virgins want other virgins but with manwhores it's like they're on a woman degrading spreeThere's a reason why even backward religions don't condone men being promiscuousI'd only be with a non virgin if he would have been okay with me if I weren't one.It's a matter of preference and women are saying no to men who fool around and waiting to settle with a virgin just the same they are saying no to the women they sullied
>>84623324It is a male gutteral brain thing to value purity and devalue promiscuity but for females it seems to be more of a tit for tat, or a logical argument. And those do not really matter when push comes to shove.
>>84621673Because it forces women to realize they have failed at a basic qualifier for marriage.>You see a man can't control height, hair loss, bone structure, body hair distribution, or any of the many icks that they consider instant deal breaker.>But every woman can control 2 things. Being a virgin and their weight. And nothing triggers women more than when they are held accountable for their actions.
>>84624840Why do men keep pretending women can somehow miss out on being moms we can do it anytime we want we just choose not to. You get mad because we don't have to be forced to anymore. Mean as hell using a random older women and calling her rotten eggs she's actually very pretty >>84624513This. Men are hypocrites and entitled. They never practice what they preach.
>>84624873>we can do it anytimewomen really all children who live in a world of no consequences
>>84624817And you could say females instinctively value the exact opposite, which is the sexual validation of other females, that maes it even more absurd to argue equality in the matter.
>>84624873>Men are hypocrites and entitled. They never practice what they preach.I'm a virgin by choice. I've had plenty of women who'd shown interest in me. I was even molested(deliberate butt rub) a couple of times in public transit by hideously ugly women and once by a mid tier becky. Sure, my supposed mate value is going down the gutter every day as I let opportunities slip(I'm 25 right now), but in no way am I going to lose my virginity before marriage as I don't wish to be hypocritical. Three years back, one of my classmates got so fed up by me for deliberately turning down her retarded choosing signals that she openly chose to interact with 2 to 3 other dudes in a rather touchy, lovey-dovey fashion, all in my presence only and never in my absence, all to induce jealousy. That shit really pissed me off and I'd come to the conclusion that she was another closet hoe with undiagnosed bpd and it turned out she was a hoe alright. She ended up having 2 affairs that very year. Thank goodness I managed to dodge that dangerous bullet.
>>84621673robots aren't virgins because they have willpower waiting for marriage, they're losers that still expect a 10/10 stacy to be a virgin for him despite accomplishing nothing in life to deserve it. No woman deserves a misogynistic porn addict
>>84623011You are an esl faggot
>>84623257>live their youth and try different thingsThis is retarded. Who the fuck cares about "muh youth" grow tf up. You hafe your whole life to try whatever the hell you want you people just don't want to commit to anything because you're scared. Fuck off
>>84623515Sounds like you're just bad at picking men
>>84623588You need to kill yourself immediateIy,
bumping for interestspy israel canuck
>>84621673>Why is there such visceral hatred towards men who want virgin spouses?When a man says, "I want a virgin wife", what your average woman hears is: "I wouldn't marry a used up whore like you." So she react negatively. It is the implied rejection that she dislikes. Even if you don't know her, even if she wouldn't date you, you have still implicitly rejected her.
>>84621786A middle schoool lol :3
>>84626622Is there something wrong with me that this attitude makes me desire a virgin even more?
>>84626622hot take but a ran through slut is inferior even to a poor, ugly crippled man. This is of course only true in a society where men are men though and not giga cuckolds like the those who live today. It's ok to be a cuckold by being forgiving to a ran through slut, but collectively speaking would men die defending sluts especially when they know they know that foids are traitorous, treacherous, evil incarnate parasites?>ukrainethere has been massive propaganda to suppress anti-foid voices so as to not lower the morale of their men, but deep down resentment is boiling and when the war ends we may end up witnessing an incel rebellion from young ukrainian men against ukrainian whores who betrayed them.
Women hate truth. That's why they are obsessed with mirrors. They have subverted the mirror from unvarnished truth teller into a conspirator, an agent for telling lies using makeup, filters, and angles.
