To put it simply the vast majority of incels are actually people with extremely poor social skills, self esteem and mental illness with the focus on dating issues either being a side effect or a way to express their own belief that they are unloveable. This is often caused by social ostracization and rejection at a young age (usually due to a combination of factors that effect men such as stigma of mental illness, being seen as dangerous, etc combined with neruodivergence, abuse or mental health issues). This results in a feedback loop of worsening mental health and social skills that eventually leads to bitterness, misanthropy, paranoia, nihilism and bad coping strategies. Despite a lot of discourse talking about how incels want s*x the truth is they want to feel wanted and accepted (which is why ironically taking pity on incels is actually seen as offensive by incels).A lot of what people consider to be incel ideology is actually the result of nihilistic catestrophizing or actual experiences. For example frustration over how men are given very little support/sympathy (ironically trying to tell incels to not be misogynistic results in more misogyny as it furthers these frustrations) (this is also why so many incels say that society caters to women not men), frustration over how male insecurity is stigmatized and a genuine fear of feminism as they consider it to be perpetuating the stigma that led to their issues in the first place (it really does not help that a lot of these people are borderline schizophrenic). They will also just straight up agree with any sexist or racist statements if they are inherently nihilistic even if they are not racist or sexist themselves (eg X groups problems are their own fault).
Now to finally answer your question.... the reason why incels don't try to moderate themselves is because of two reasons. First of all they actively seek deregulated niche spaces on the internet as they have intense social anxiety (this is also why they tend to use dark humour and irony instead of talking normally). Second of all inceldom itself is a form of self harm, they are not trying to get better, they don't think they can get better and they don't think they deserve to get better. Incel fourms are first and foremost suicide forums. Incels are not mentally well people, their association with the far right and school shootings is the result of them being the perfect group to target for radicalization by bad actors which is why studies consistently show them as being less violent and more left wing than most men.All of this does not apply to all incels though, infact recent studies suggest that a lot of the right wing incels are just.... straight up psychopaths, without any link with mental illness or neruodivergence.... just... literal psychopaths...Sorry for the wall of text, this stuff is really difficult to explain, we really need to acknowledge that that these issues exist and stop trying to compare the experiences of men and women or have a zero sum mentality on gender equality (thankfully this is slowly changing). We also need to create targeted messaging towards these demographics by mixing nihilistic dark humour with more hopeful left wing messaging (The only good example I can think of this would be the video game Disco Elysium).
>>84631944Wonder if he has little hormone ice cream cone shaped bottle tits yet or they're just male nipples still, the HRT process on this one seems early.
>>84631944This is true in a lot of cases, but not all.
>>84631953Spoiler: he isnt early just built like a brick and has a little poon girlfriend
>>84631944>To put it simply the vast majority of incels are actually people with extremely poor social skills, self esteem and mental illness with the focus on dating issues either being a side effect or a way to express their own belief that they are unloveable.Correct.Put it simply, though. You should not have to write anything after this sentence.>>84631952>All of this does not apply to all incels though, infact recent studies suggest that a lot of the right wing incels are just.... straight up psychopaths, without any link with mental illness or neruodivergence.... just... literal psychopaths...Psychopathy is neurodivergence.I doubt these studies actually demonstrate what you claim that they demonstrate if they exist.Good on you for establishing that this isn't a purely right wing phenomenon, though. Quite a low bar, really.>We also need to create targeted messaging towards these demographics by mixing nihilistic dark humour with more hopeful left wing messaging (The only good example I can think of this would be the video game Disco Elysium).Disco Elysium is not even remotely incel coded. You are faggot.
>>84631953Thate just how non surgery trannies look like
>>84631944well yeah, this is obvious enough to me. having a girlfriend is far far away from what i think is possible for me, if i cant get a job or friends either, if i walk down the street and feel oppressed by being visible to other people, then its obviously more feeling like im a bug and not a person.
>>84631952>their association with the far right and school shootingsgotta admit, you had me going there at first. but I see you are just a faggot
Me gustan los incels, me excitan en caso de que sean explicitos con su estado fisico y mental, siempre me dicen "no, no te gustan" solo porque onions mujer.
Siempre me corrigen con cebollas, es muy raro, en fin, mi genero es femenino
I wish for the times when we could all just openly acknowledge that society is not healthy and that it is in fact bad. Especially since society is worse now than before but now somehow we are supposed to "grow up and realize it was just a phase" even though the trajectory is literally downhill.It is seen as cringe now and will be seen as even more cringe in the coming years to say:"I think most people in society and its systems are bad and oppressive and we are not living the way we should, im sad"In the future these statements will be silenced by freezing people out who dare to express that.In the past it was more accepting to have these opinions even though in the past society was "better", relatively.
>>84632843i hope it will get better as the boomer generation die off and people who grew up on the internet are in their 40s and 50s
>>84632843everybody under the age of 40 knows its bad, but no one has a way to fix it, we cant help doing things to perpetuate the sickness, and so people just keep trying to pretend we aren't collapsing.I truly hope there is some sort of global catastrophe (you know, like we were promised with the coof) so things can be reset
>>84631944why is mommy built like that
>>84631944>>84631952incel = uglynothing else matters and nobody will read your post
Nor do you need to be a hypersocial martyr in order to be a good dad.Your whole OP is just another episode of >Woman good. Man bad.
>>84631944Women's social skills are just as dogshit. You literally cannot interact with a women if they won't even give you the time of day.
I am a burundian dwarf with a norwood 3 hairline and this post inspired me to ask out my crush. You are right. Its all in my head. I just need to hold frame.
I dropped out when I was 12 from being too poor in a rich neighborhood, and my mom didn't value socialization. Then I was a NEET for 10 years.I'm turning 40. No kids, have lived alone for over 15 years. Have always paid the financial price of being alone which has held me back. I'm the one paying $2000 rent by himself while others live with their parents and fuck around creating debts. I don't tolerate anything anymore and it keeps me alone. Every single fucking person LIES and I can't talk to them after they lie anymore. Even the people at church are completely hypocritical... There was a Christmas dinner where we had to pay $40 to reserve our spot, 2 days before this dinner the pastor says a long sleeve shirt is required... Don't own one because I'm a social outcast and only a worker. So the church excluded me from a dinner I paid for, and then the church got angry at me because I didn't go. Shit like this is why I'm never invited in.
>>84631953Pretty impressive face, tho -- quite passable. If "she" wore a padded bra, I wouldn't suspect anything.
>>84631944Tranny ozzy?
>>84632601Disco Elysium is trust funder trooncel coded
>>84633156is taking estrogen worth it for having simps pay for stuff?
>>84635225yes (speaking from experience)
>>84633156>muh palestinePalestinians deserve genocide
>>84635234>speaking from experienceare you famous?
>>84635271no but i have received a bunch of stuff from men
>>84635287are you one of the two trannies I have bought stuff for? I resent one of you, you know who you are
>>84635409i dont think so mister! didnt take anything from r9k users
>>84635287how did you do that? how did you receive stuff?
>>84633183THANK YOU.The constant gaslighting of normies that have to vilify incels as being something other than just not physically attractive is amazing. Men that are abusers, wife beaters, liers, alcoholics etc still have women. Incels don't have women because they're not attractive.They'll also vilify incels for "not trying" as if these people weren't forced in social interactions all throughout school where things didn't work out for them.
>>84635469it was mostly games on steam lol
>>84631952>Incels are not mentally well people, their association with the far right and school shootings is the result of them being the perfect group to target for radicalization by bad actors which is why studies consistently show them as being less violent and more left wing than most men.Not quite. Their association comes from most shooters complaining about loneliness and since men have their loneliness reduced to "he just wants sex" then the public discourse corrupts the intent.For example most women who would insult a man by calling them virgin are now calling them incels. It clogs up the discourse because now there's ~3-5 times as much stigma instead of it just being a matter of not having sex, not being desirable to women, etc.I identify with incels in a similar manner but I do not identify as one. It is social suicide to do so, and I do not share the overarching ideology it is associated with. We really ought to stick to more separate terms for clarity. Misogynist? Yeah sure, I understand men's gripes with women in the same way that women gripe to each other about men. School shooter? I felt that rage early on, but I discarded it, it leads to a shorter lifespan and that isn't ideal. No blood would be enough to sate me, and I am a different person than the one that felt that bloodlust. Virgin? Yeah, and I don't even care about that. I know relationships aren't all roses and sunshine.Most of these terms have been thrown out the window because it's easier to just call someone an incredibly derogatory something, even when it makes no sense. Like a white man calling another white man nigger, there's no logic to it, no meaning attached to the word, it's just hate. That hate overrides all critical thinking. It is turned into a meaningless buzzword. "Incel" has been obliterated as a thing with meaning no different than the word "fuck" has been. It's no longer a word with a set definition, it is purely an emotional response. A catch-all insult and more.
>>84635541how did get them buy you stuff in the first place?
>>84635094>the pastor says a long sleeve shirt is required... >Don't own one because I'm a social outcast and only a worker. Did you talk to anyone about this at your church? Surely they could give you one
>>84631944Ah, I understand it now. This is a good explanation.
>>84631944>it's your fault and that's a good thingcool thanks
>>84631944>>84631952Personally I can't wait until slavery becomes legal again.
>>84635182Aint nothing passable about that face lmao
>>84635182You are sex blind and cannot tell a male body apart from a female
>>84632601Why she look like she tryna not laugh bro lmoa
