>your mbti type>preferred conspiracy theory>(Optional) What is one seemingly innocuous piece of evidence (as song lyric, a meme template, an urban legend) that you believe proves deep systemic corruption/control?>(Optional) If given the chance to delete one type of technology forever (e.g. GPS, facial recognition, wi-fi), which would it be and why?What do you think of algorithmic control (e.g. TikTok feed, Facebook echo chambers, Kiwifarm threads made about you)?Are they benevolent guides or insidious cages?>Actually, and I confess this to you with a struggle, I have spent so much time researching these patterns that I sometimes feel like I'm the one being analyzed. The sense of paranoia isn't actually external; it's internalized, an echo chamber built from too many linked theories and late night wikipedia dives. It feels less like believing in a conspiracy, and more like remembering a fundamental law of physics that everyone else seems to have forgotten or been deliberately conditioned out of. This feeling, that I know something inconveniently true is exhausting and makes every random piece of internet culture feel like potential evidence.Turbie's Whirbular funground of tests and linkshttps://pastebin.com/vedM4v6rPrevious thread: >>84606077
1st 4 INFJ-T! :3
Second for glomping turbocharger
>>84634023D-do you look anything like Parg?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHkZWLld-pw
>>84634039>Turbo charger sexo....
>>84634039(>^_^)><(^_^<)>>84634052No! ^_^>>84634065W-what...? :OBangaranga is the new skibidi?! ^.^;;;
>>84633974>>your mbti typeENTP>>preferred conspiracy theoryThat everything will be alright
>>84634104Bangaranga is too antisemetic for me >_<
>>84633974>your mbti typeIS>preferred conspiracy theoryThat there are no conspiracies.
Mid 20s INTP,I've McFucking had enough, I'm psychopomped to the max and ready to die.Return me to the void this instant, Blind Idiot God! (please)
what is your favorite thing about each reg
OMG hi, so like, I'm basically a walking constellation of identifiers and it's super important you get them all right before we proceed. I'm, like, a Pisces sun but Scorpio rising (obviously), which explains everything about my aura and also my texting style, and I'm an INFJ-T but only on Tuesdays when my serotonin is aligned, otherwise I'm more of an ENFP with avoidant tendencies, depending on my attachment wound phase. I'm also, like, queer but in a very nuanced, intersectional, fluid-but-not-too-fluid way that I can explain better in a 14-slide story post. Clinically speaking I do have anxiety, ADHD, and "possibly-but-not-yet-diagnosed-but-I've-read-a-lot" OCD, but in a quirky way, not like a sad way, more like an aesthetically distressed way. Spiritually I'm basically a cosmic empath starseed with Capricorn moon energy even though I already said Pisces, but charts are complicated and I contain multitudes. Anyway, that's just a little about me, but like, not all of me, because I'm also a work in progress, obviously.
>>84634104Would you wear his leather pants?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jnCcejkpjg
>>84634172Accurate ENFP post, well done.That's what Kokoro would say if was into typology instead of idles.
where is my centy boi
>>84634217Probably in hiding while he waits for the storm to pass.
But she is like 13yo so you can still course-correct her into an EN(T). She has her thinkoid moments.
[11] The recognition and taking to heart of the subjectivedetermination of knowledge in general, and of psychologicalknowledge in particular, are basic conditions for the scientificand impartial evaluation of a psyche different from that of theobserving subject. These conditions are fulfilled only whenthe observer is sufficiently informed about the nature andscope of his own personality. He can, however, be sufficientlyinformed only when he has in large measure freed himselffrom the levelling influence of collective opinions andthereby arrived at a clear conception of his own individualitySo let me get this straight, since joong never actually figured out his own personality type so we shouldn't trust him on anything he says about psychology? That is, according to the man himself. This is almost as offputting as him saying like 5 times in all the forwards that nobody should read his book in the first place. Why is he like this? Also, you should never listen to other people? Does that include Jongus?
>>84634284>since joong never actually figured out his own personality typeHe figured out he's introverted and a thinkoid, that's all he needs. Only changed the auxiliary at least once.
>>84634307But people here say he was an INFJ sometimes, who do I trust!
>>84634316The one who knows what his own typology means is a safe bet.
>>84634316You shouldn't trust anyone here (expect for me).
What MBTI is centaur?? and is he sexy?
>>84634316Can confirm you can only trust >>84634336>>84634340My intuition says IF(S)
>>84634331Fair enough, maybe it was an attempt at a low blow. A little bit uneasy to think that the rest of the book is contingent on Jung actually being an IT type. But regardless it's good to clarify this sort of thing
>>84634365>A little bit uneasy to think that the rest of the book is contingent on Jung actually being an IT typeWorse than that. A lot of the book is contingent with Jung believing there were only two types: IT and EF. Not fully though, I remember some instances of also comparing IT and ET before chapter X, and we have Nietzsche who's supposedly IN first and foremost.
>your mbti typeintj 5w4>preferred conspiracy theorythe elite pushes crazy and shitty conspiracy theories on purpose to make people who believe in real ones seem insane
[12] The further we go back into history, the more we seepersonality disappearing beneath the wrappings ofcollectivity. And if we go right back to primitive psychology,we find absolutely no trace of the concept of an individual.Instead of individuality we find only collective relationship orwhat Levy-Bruhl calls participation mystique. The collectiveattitude hinders the recognition and evaluation of apsychology different from the subject's, because the mindthat is collectively oriented is quite incapable of thinking andfeeling in any other way than by projection. What weunderstand by the concept "individual" is a relatively recentacquisition in the history of the human mind and humanculture. It is no wonder, therefore, that the earlier all-powerfulcollective attitude prevented almost completely an objectivepsychological evaluation of individual differences, or anyscientific objectification of individual psychologicalprocesses. It was owing to this very lack of psychologicalthinking that knowledge became "psychologized," i.e., filledwith projected psychology. We find striking examples of thisin man's first attempts at a philosophical explanation of thecosmos. The development of individuality, with theconsequent psychological differentiation of man, goes hand inhand with the de-psychologizing work of objective science.Mmm mm, so psychology is a new thing because the idea of the individual was only invented recently. Jung believes that since people had no concept of psychology that they instead projected it onto everything else. Am I getting that right?
>>846344615w4 is cool
>>84634481>Jung believes that since people had no concept of psychology that they instead projected it onto everything else. Am I getting that right?Basically. Must be the alignment of planets and stars or something.
She honestly deserves being struck in an argument, if it even happened. Glad to see him grow up and take the Sean Connery pill. Now that he got the practice bitch out of the way, maybe he can find a worthwhile lady this time while she peruses the general for a rebound lmao
>>84634365This, at the end of paragraph 7, is what anon is referring to>Each of these types may, moreover, be either introverted or extraverted, depending onits relation to the object as we have described above. >In my preliminary work on psychological types. I did not carry out this differentiation, but identified the thinking type with the introvert and the feeling type with the extravert. >A deeper study of the problem has shown this equation to be untenable. In order to avoid misunderstandings, I would ask the reader to bear in mind the differentiation I have developed here.Anon is a fucking retard.
>>84633974intpdont really have any conspiracy theories and idk about the rest. thank you
>>84634549Not sure what you are trying to say here anon, Jung himself never changed his position on being an introverted thinkoid specifically.He did however initially say that sensation was developed in him, and then in an interview you can watch on YT said it was intuition actshually.
>>84634582I'm saying the other reply to that post>A lot of the book is contingent with Jung believing there were only two typesIs misleading at best.
>>84634599That's still true though. Most of what's written will follow this because he initially gathered material around that theory.
>>84634613What do you think that last "here" refers to?
>>84634629Acting obtuse on purpose only works if you are a cute girl and your type is a feeloid, anon. Both of these things are non-negotiable.
I believe every poster here is an honorary cute girl. They can be a feeloid if they so choose.
>>84634641>acts obtuse
"Everyone on 4chan is a little girl", valid.>>84634660Too late now.
>>84634344>My intuition says IF(S)Why's that? what's your experience with him?
>>84634677It's what I can vaguely recall from his posts and him describing a lot of feeling/sensation-related stuff.Back then I had figured out he had to be some sort of ISFx in MBTI terms. No other experience other than reading the posts tho.
>>84633974>INTJ>rothschild island>what?>AI
If one is struck by coincidence,how many flicks of the light switch does it taketo find the dirt swept under the rug?A lost art of weaving the lightin your mind with just a slight-More than you could count on both hands.
[13] These reflections may explain why objectivepsychology has such a meagre source in the material handeddown to us from antiquity. The differentiation of the fourtemperaments, which we took over from the ancients, hardlyrates as a psychological typology since the temperaments arescarcely more than psychophysical colourings. But this lackof information does not mean that we can find no trace inclassical literatureof the effects of the psychological pairs of opposites we arediscussing.[14] Gnostic philosophy established three types,corresponding perhaps to three of the basic psychologicalfunctions: thinking, feeling, and sensation. The pneumatikoicould be correlated with thinking, the psychikoi with feeling,and the hylikoi with sensation. The inferior rating of thepsychikoi was in accord with the spirit of Gnosticism, which,unlike Christianity, insisted on the value of knowledge. TheChristian principles of love and faith kept knowledge at adistance. In the Christian sphere the pneumatikoi wouldaccordingly get the lower rating, since they weredistinguished merely by the possession of Gnosis, i.e.,knowledgeAnd there you have it folks, he's onto the G word already. Can't hold back from shilling his preferred woo cult genre for more than two pages of the actual text. G n * s t i c f a n f i c t i o n t i m e
>>84634811>Gnostic philosophy established three types,>corresponding perhaps to three of the basic psychological>functions: thinking, feeling, and sensation. The pneumatikoi>could be correlated with thinking, the psychikoi with feeling,>and the hylikoi with sensation.Apparently intuition types weren't real back then.
>>84634666It's never too late. Now, get behind me, Satan.
>>84634461Based, l'm a chud
>>84634833Interesting he also called the thinking type the pneumatic, wheras I'm pretty sure that it's usually intuitives that claim this nowadays, and also for jung to be an intuitive.>Pneumatikoi: The pneumatics were, in Gnosticism, the highest order of humans, the other two orders being psychics and hylics ("matter"). A pneumatic saw themselves as escaping the doom of the material world via the transcendent knowledge of Sophia's Divine Spark from inner revelation coming from the highest point of the subtle "nous" in the head or crown region. Hmm, awfully suspicious that he just happens to identify himself as part of the highest order of humans at the time he was writing this. I ctrl f'd and the word intuition doesn't appear until paragraph 78. Also I am just now realising that he only gave us the two type thing warning because he couldn't be bothered to edit his book and so it's a mess of drafts kinda just jammed together. Lord save me.
Also it's not like he introduces intuition, he just starts using the word as if that's a perfectly normal thing to do
>>84634907>Also I am just now realising that he only gave us the two type thing warning because he couldn't be bothered to edit his book and so it's a mess of drafts kinda just jammed together. Lord save me.Welcome to reading Jung, enjoy your stay.Yes that's basically how the whole thing feels like, and PT is especially bad with this. That's also why I told anon he's being obtuse, you will quickly find out either way.
[15] Type differences should also be borne in mind whenwe consider the long and perilous struggle which the Churchfrom its earliest beginnings waged against Gnosticism. Owingto the predominantly practical trend of early Christianity theintellectual hardly came into his own, except when hefollowed his fighting instincts by indulging in polemicalapologetics. The rule of faith was too strict and allowed nofreedom of movement. Moreover, it was poor in positiveintellectual content. It boasted of few ideas, and though thesewere of immense practical value they were a definite obstacleto thought. The intellectual was much worse hit by thesacrificium intellectus than the feeling type. It is thereforeunderstandable that the vastly superior intellectual content ofGnosis, which in the light of our present mental developmenthas not lost but has considerably gained in value, must havemade the greatest possible appeal to the intellectual within theChurch. For him it held out in very truth all the temptations ofthis world. Docetism in particular caused grave trouble to theChurch with its contention that Christ possessed only anapparent body and that his whole earthly existence andpassion had been merely a semblance. In this contention thepurely intellectual element predominates at the expense ofhuman feeling.Good Lord, I'm a hardline atheist and Jung's Fedora is too powerful for me. I... I kneel.Btw does Jung ever actually provide a citation? A source maybe? He's been making a lot of big claims about history in this chapter.
>>84634962Sure, the only good source.
>>84634987this meme but unironically
>>84634907>awfully suspicious that he just happens to identify himself as part of the highest order of humans at the time he was writing thisHe points out right away that mainline Christians would have it the other way around between the pneumatikoi and the psychikoi.>he couldn't be bothered to edit his book and so it's a mess of drafts kinda just jammed together.It is edited and there is an intelligible structure to it, even if it doesn't seem like it at first. >the word intuition doesn't appear until paragraph 78He takes so long to mention Intuition because the book is primarily about attitudes, not functions. Functions are only secondary to Psychological Types, which is first a foremost a book about attitude types. >it's not like he introduces intuition, he just starts using the word as if that's a perfectly normal thing to doAll the definitions are in chapters ten and eleven.
>>84635042why would you write 9 chapters where you use words before defining them?
>>84635042>He points out right away that mainline Christians would have it the other way around between the pneumatikoi and the psychikoi.He also immediately points out that mainline christians are dumb and stupid. It's not really a fair comparison since it's apparent that he is pro-Gnostic
>>84635059Wait until you realize that certain words used in previous books were defined in PT for the first time.
>>84635059He tells you where to find the definitions in the introduction. >>84635074It only seems like that now.
He isn't pro-gnostic.
>>84635111>It only seems like that now.Now that sounds like some sweet juicy fruit if true. I can't wait for the Gnostics btfo moment!>>84635128then why did he say >It is therefore understandable that the vastly superior intellectual content of Gnosis, which in the light of our present mental development has not lost but has considerably gained in value, must have made the greatest possible appeal to the intellectual within the Church.?
>>84635111But those definitions don't actually mean anything unless you've read the rest of the book first?
>>84635152He talks about why that is in other books, it's because he believes that the Gnostics were speaking in unconscious metaphors. He believed they were describing not a religious belief, perse, but their understanding of psychology.He has the same belief about alchemy. He talks about this stuff in depth in mysterium coniunctionis. It's all a metaphor for psychology and psychological differentiation. But, that's why he thinks they're very intelligent, because he believes they were effectively the first to discover, or at the very least, detail in understandable metaphors, the process of psychological differentiation.
>>84635181I see, so is that because the Gnostics were talking about the most abstract bullshit possible at the time, and so when they projected psychology onto it, they got pretty close to "pure" psychology? I guess that makes sense
>>84635205The gnostics were definitely talking about something very, very real. But it's all very symbolic.
>>84635232What was that? I thought they were just a christian sect that believed in ascenscion through knowing stuff or something. Although wikipedia seems to think it's more of a collection of traits that early christians could have.
Also don't Gnostics hate real stuff anyway, so like, what do they even mean when they say something's "real"?
>>84635248The short answer is people and the world. The long answer would take too long and I'm in bed. Soooo.>>84635267They definitely didn't hate real stuff. The whole demiurge and flesh being corrupted stuff was a late addition around the time of original sin being added to Christianity. Both ideas do not fit the original teaching.
I deserve bloodletting from Tulpamoney aka Alchemie Green aka my Lower MenschHow was that first kiss with Lilith btw? Already happened. Knock knock joke you'll understand if you steal the names of the kids we were supposed to have (Hunted at your family's own holiday away stay place)Kurokitsune
>>84635308you don't deserve anything after posting that unreadable image
As You Wish, Wumbocrapster
Beep boop*Archetypal whrrrrring*
>>84635168So either read the definitions first and come to understand them as you read the main text, or read the main text first and have it clarified by the definitions at the end. You could even take notes, or read it twice! It's not a novel, so don't treat it like one. >>84635152The other anon is right, i just want to add that he reason he says that there, what he means in that particular context, is not a value judgement, but a simple observation that Gnostic thought has more for the thinking part of us to chew on than Church doctrine.
Me thinking about Luciel/n aka mySelf while get what you get and don't mind a bitchfitSelah, brotherlicker
Astral operator, put me in contact with []
my entire workout routine is focused around expanding my ass
>>84635300Ok have a nice nap. I'm only confrontational about this because it's how my brain works. I'm having a fun time learning and reading The Jung with you.Maybe I'll be inspired to do some more research on early Christian history, but this is a long enough project as it is. Cooking pork chops and cabbage rn.
i wish lilac was dead because every time i hear her voice i have to cope with the fact that we aren't ever going to have sex and I don't want to live like this anymore
I hope Lilac lives a long fruitful happy healthy life because she is a wonderful lady who deserves the world and more.
The sentiment is mutual but the Feels are not, bot.
>>84633974>>your mbti typeESFP-T>What do you think of algorithmic controlNot a fan. YouTube has disabled my comments section twice because I got flagged as a minor, and I suspect that I'm being algorithmically buried for the same reason (though it's probably more likely that I'm just not that popular).
You reap what you sow from someone with a Hades-Persephone complex, Elektra Amalejitters.
I deserve sex with lilac I've listened to every vocaroo she has ever sent at least twice and I demand every second to be paid back to me in the form of semen extraction (I'm caged and only cum from anal)
>>84633974INTPThat the term "conspiracy theory" was intentionally spread by the CIA (& friends!) as a rhetorical weapon to silence discussions and program normalfags to shut down their minds the moment they read it somewhere. "Conspiracy theory" is just the theory that there's a conspiracy, but it's practically synonymous to "schizophrenic nonsense" in common parlance.
>The Femme Patchouliman:Take a look around you at the thread we've come to knowDoes it seem to be much more than a crazy circus show?But maybe from the blandness something beautiful will growIn a brave nu threadWith just a handful of regsWe'll start-We'll start all over again!All over again!All over again!All over again!I've got a plan!Can't you just see it? Serialisation starting all over again - a second chanceWe'll even build a template and put it in a paste, go there for our OPsNothing can stop regs like usI've made a thread already. Come on down here and have a look>Narrataur:On the board was a general scarcely ten posts long, that had taken him a day to reach. I could have had that much in an hour, and I suddenly had my first inkling of the gulf between his dreams and his powers...>The Femme Patchouliman:It's doing the readin' and the contributin' that wears a femboi out. I'm ready for a bit of a rest. How about a drink eh? Nothing but pu'er tea, now I'm the boss!>NarrataurWe puzzled, and then he insisted upon reading Jung. With our general on the edge of discorderisation, with no prospect but a horrible thread death, we actually read Jung!Later, he wrote more of his plan, but I saw replies flashing in the deep blue light. Weed heads blabbing, discord faggots posting incessantly - and I put down my copium cup. I felt a traitor to /mbti/ and I knew I must leave this strange memer...>The Femme Patchouliman:Take a look around you at the thread we've come to knowDoes it seem to be much more than a crazy circus show?But maybe from the blandness something beautiful will grow...
Raping femme patchys butthole
>your mbti typeINTJ-T I last time I checked, I'm just over the edge to J>preferred conspiracy theoryhttps://youtube.com/shorts/eu20uCmPIuo
>your mbti typeintp>preferred conspiracy theoryelites perform ritual child abuse for non-human intelligences for power>(Optional) What is one seemingly innocuous piece of evidence (as song lyric, a meme template, an urban legend) that you believe proves deep systemic corruption/control?I don't think there is deep systemic control in that sense elites are extremely incompetent, corruption I guess I'd say Tideland by Terry Gilliam it's a movie>(Optional) If given the chance to delete one type of technology forever (e.g. GPS, facial recognition, wi-fi), which would it be and why?Satellites>What do you think of algorithmic control (e.g. TikTok feed, Facebook echo chambers, Kiwifarm threads made about you)?What does kiwifarms have to do with algorithimic control.I think what matters more is the net effect over the medium over any particular content, it's not what the algorithims do it's that it's algorithims. Basically conditions you to be a gambling addict and not be rational.>Are they benevolent guides or insidious cages?It doesn't matter if the content is good or bad it disrupts your relationship with reality
https://youtu.be/oztVGKW-9Po>Your type>How would you contribute to this song/MV?
>>84633974INTP. >preferred conspiracy theoryThe problem with conspiracies is that the ones that are worth believing in are already well backed and practically proven true as just standard government practices. The notion of the Deep State is laughable when their description is generally just how politics already work. As a result, I'd say the greatest active conspiracy "theory" is just psyops where they sell people on a absurdly retarded theories. What I did notice is that following the internet's polticial polarization, conspiracies became far more tied to one side or the other rather than a general anti-government stance.Not to say no one actually believed in it, absurd conspiracies can serve as a coping mechanism for those who are hurt, hence why divorced men were overrepresented.I kind of miss flat earthers compared to what we have now. Also fuck AI for making conspiracy videos too easy to make. Shit used to be an art.
All of it was a dream.
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Also the holes in my wall and br00tal trauma empirically and empyreanlly disprove that sneedling
https://voca.ro/17vIIlwwYfvF
>>84636908>Presented by the Democrat and Republican parties
This faggot keeps trying to steal my personality and posting style.
>>84636883How do you convince an INFJ to get their fingers out of their asses and do things rather than procrastinate all day?
>>84636216ENTPI'd add 'God I fucking hate nigger culture' at the start and the very end of the lyrics
https://voca.ro/19Jh9DviXoSTAbba, forgive Him he ate my!SmilefrieboisIT G MA
>>84637948https://youtu.be/DPC9erC5WqU https://youtu.be/WU54WpQNYicHop on Dubtrack with Meilly for ol TINE's sake eh bluhhhds?>Join a gvngcult
Hey. EFG. Where did Slowpoke go? I told him to watch my icanhazcheeseburger book?
stop whispering and own up to your cringe you bitch, why the fuck are you whispering like that, just tell them you're shitposting
>>84633974INTJ>They are ruining my sleep>j*bs>silicon chips until 4000 AD
>have to make progress on making my video game each day or i feel insanely depressedis this enneagram type 5 or type 4 behavior
>>84633974>>your mbti typeINTJ>>preferred conspiracy theoryI'm a practitioner.>>(Optional) What is one seemingly innocuous piece of evidence (as song lyric, a meme template, an urban legend) that you believe proves deep systemic corruption/control?This question is retarded.>>(Optional) If given the chance to delete one type of technology forever (e.g. GPS, facial recognition, wi-fi), which would it be and why?All the electronics.>What do you think of algorithmic control (e.g. TikTok feed, Facebook echo chambers, Kiwifarm threads made about you)?>Are they benevolent guides or insidious cages?Your brain is slop.>a fundamental law of physics that everyone else seems to have forgotten or been deliberately conditioned out of.No, you consistently reject it entirely out of your own choice.
>>84633974>p1Probably INFJ but I distrust personality systems once people start using them like astrology for LinkedIn. I think humans are too context-dependent and spiritually recursive to fit cleanly into 4-letter containment units. Still, "visionary burnout cryptid with pattern-recognition problems" is close enough.>p2That modern society accidentally created a machine that optimizes for emotional extraction instead of truth, beauty, or wisdom, and now almost every institution serves engagement metrics before humanity. Not really a secret cabal thing. More like a distributed egregore made out of incentives, algorithms, fear, advertising, and loneliness.>(Optional)The "this meeting could have been an email" meme. People treat it like office humor, but it quietly reveals that millions of human lives are being consumed by systems nobody believes in yet everyone obeys because the structure itself became self-preserving. That is way scarier than most conspiracy theories.>(Optional)Facial recognition. The human face should not become a barcode. The moment anonymity in public fully dies, every culture starts psychologically reshaping itself around permanent observation. People become performances instead of souls. Harvest your local CCTV/Flock cams for the Glory of Christ
>>84633974That is a very great picture.
>>84638099>People become performances instead of soulsYou're extremely late to the excessively dramatic worry.
>>84636908Cute voice and original
>>84638112Would apply well to all NFs*, but true.*Intuition is always a function that doesn't let you easily settle, since its purpose is to look at what's still not established and a "possibility". It sees reality as dynamic.Feeling mostly deals with personal relations, what moves/charges people, and criteria for attraction/repulsion. It's also referred as "dynamic image" to counter the formulaic "static" nature of Thinking.Put these things together and guess how the resulting personality looks like.
I shouldn't be shamed as an INFP male for wanting an ENFJ girl to be my hero of a gf
>>84638144People have ego structures each, usually.>Put these things together and guess how the resulting personality looks like.Taxpayer cattle #66,274,573,776 (double flow type)
>>84638181"The only stable part of your personality is being consistently unstable." is something I'd probably tell to a NF.That technically counts as a Ego structure
>>84638144INFJs are a special breed of stupid.
>>84638199An ego structure, per processes, technically predates what you'd perceive as a personality.Dude... Non-hierarchical causal layers... Lmao... Whatever.
>>84638220Wait until you see INFP. Or IF(N) in Jung, just so we are clear since an INFP can easily be actually IN(F)
>>84638044Are you making your video game as a way to escape the outside world or are you making it for emotional exploration?
Making games is based, ganbatte senpai
I sure hope he's using MBTI somehow, maybe to add flavor to the characterization if the game isn't abstract?
Can't a guy have separate hobbies?
Having hobbies give me the ick
I'm not sure how I'd go about integrating MBTI in any way into a video game, and not make it an absolute bore to play or just an uninteresting product NTA tho, but if I ever reach that point, I'll definitely use MBTI to try to create diverse characters and dialogs, but that'd be as far as it could go (and I wouldn't ever say I based those characters out of you retards either)
Lilac sent a smooch in her vocaroo and I almost came
Yeah in mechanics I wouldn't try that either.That aside, what's your opinion on making the types explicit?(even without going all the way into pic rel, but there could be things like in-game profiles/bios).
>>84638244I don't particularly care.>You have been muted for 2 seconds, because your comment was not original.You have been muted for 2 seconds, because your comment was not original.
>>84638583https://vocaroo.com/1lsnQBGPnUwG
Obviously, the way you integrate mbti into a bideo jame is by turning the types into a diverse class system where each function represents a trait.Your Se types would be hunter-esq types with high perception, for example.
>>84638583I wonder what nails she's having
Well I'm only ever going to make games for males, males with penises, with guns and gore and cute waifus with huge tits, so I couldn't see a way for me to include something that, at first sight, looks like 'astronomy for nerds' without it getting in the way of the product The one way I could see it, is if I was to simulate a karentocracy in the game (aka player is just a grunt and he has to deal with the redtape of the women in charge or something), and then MBTI could be mentioned that way and used by the corpo for... reasons, I think that would be an okay way to include it, but it's derogatory, so it depends if you mean you'd want to find a way to include it that doesn't imply you're making fun of itIf that's what you're looking for then surely you could make a team based game (whether JRPG or tactical, or even a mix with idle mechanics, maybe even Xcom) and have some sort of squad cohesion % with bonuses that would heavily rely on MBTI and a type assigned to each character, player could also pick them and depending on what the team looks like, the dialogs and how the story plays out could be different, but that's a LOT of work (but maybe AI would be okay at that, if it's just dialogs)
Mmmh, the ideas flow easily but I'll never ever act on them>world is NotLoliHitler's world, very totally extremely legally distinct>player plays as major/captain, organizes squads and give them orders>HQ "comes up" with this new revolutionary method that supposedly can be used to figure out the strength and weaknesses of soldiers and provide ways to further optimize squad creation through cohesion metrics>it's just MBTI>player has to figure out what types are best suited at what tasks, game 'rounds' could play like an FTL text encounters, with a story developing and you getting different text dialogs depending on the squad composition, so if a hostage situation occurs then maye ENTxs might be good at diffusing that situation or maybe INFPs might make things worse and might break down and panic or something, and on the other hand, maybe INFPs can affect the surrendering chance of enemies (or even make them defect for your camp) through the power of friendship and music, and drugsI mean idk, I'm not sure MBTI would add that much depth to the system as opposed to something even simpler like the fucking pokemon natures or something
>>84638618In-universe explanation for a modern setting should be easy enough, since corpos unironically use it.But it's more fun when it's not too explicit or a corpo setting imo. e.g. assigning types to magical things like elements without saying you just did that. Attentive players/readers might notice there are certain patterns related their personality traits and could type everyone from their elemental affinities.That's the kind of thing you casually confirm later as intentional, in a dev blog or whatever.As for 100% explicit but not vidya in my case, I have 4 characters who could reasonably get official types because they are asian idols. The in-universe explanation is already there, that's something they actually do IRL.
>>84638675>>HQ "comes up" with this new revolutionary method that supposedly can be used to figure out the strength and weaknesses of soldiers and provide ways to further optimize squad creation through cohesion metrics>>it's just MBTIJesus Christ how horrifying.Fund it.>>player has to figure out what types are best suited at what tasksDidn't you say lolihitler world? Just make it around magic types where you'd have to differentiate, as a commander, trait combos into what you'd see as classes, with no game system handholding around this.
>>84638278>it's what i'm best at + don't want to have to work a "real" jobdamn that's a very 5 line of motivation huh
>>84638799>>84638864>But it's more fun when it's not too explicit or a corpo setting imo. e.g. assigning types to magical things like elements without saying you just did that. Attentive players/readers might notice there are certain patterns related their personality traits and could type everyone from their elemental affinities.I agree, no matter what I (personally) wouldn't make it a main integral part of the game; but it could be a clue that players could figure out later is a nice and easy way to find out the sort of potential (in your idea, magic type) for each new recruit or something, or just as a little aside joke that doesn't matter too much too, could also come out as an interest for a side character, think mei ling from MGS but instead of her stupid chinese sayings, it'd be MBTI related musingsBecause honestly I'm making it about squad cohesion because I just finished going through my yearly xcom run, but anything like that would work just as well (going back to pokemon, it's basically what they did after all; it's not explained directly to the player but it does have a (slight) effect on the mon's stats etc)At the end of the day, you're most likely to hit the target audience of MBTI and not cause any potential negative fuss over it if you just made a gay romancesim or something instead, then the MBTI types will fit right in>>84638889Congrats on being a 5
>>84638926>it'd be MBTI related musingsKino.Also the loliHitler is an INFJ isn't she
>>84638940ENTJ akshually. and its a HE
>>84638864>>84638864>Didn't you say lolihitler world?when did that become a thing?
>>84638957Wait then it means it's shotahitler.>>84638958Japs will throw an anime girl into everything.
>>84638940Nah, and she's not hitler at all, people just started calling that because she's evil and she got isekai'd in notww2germany and people didn't look further than that, but she's the absolute opposite of a feeler, she's peak thinkoid, it's even the reason she got isekai'd was because he was so good at his job that some feeler got big mad at him and killed himI love that show, tho not for the reasons anyone assume; it's the tale of an atheist thinker forced into a position in which god himself (or something akin to it) tries to make him play ball and start believing and seeing what he's not seeingI love it a lot, the 'loli' part is honestly something that could be completely removed from the show and it'd be just as good, which makes it even better
>>84638961>shotahitlerNo, he's a salaryman stuck in a little girl's body, he is a loli
>>84638970Fair enough, happens all the time. At least half of the time it's not an accident however
Shotto a minute kudasaiiDoes it mean Tanya is just living our ENTP dream AND gets to keep his thinker brain and not have to deal with the usual femoid retardation
Maybe. He definitely sound like he won bigly.
wait until they realize tanya is also a magical girl
Are sensors actually dumb or just pretend to be dumb to piss you off?
I don't know about other sense anons but I absolutely do do that
Sensors are smarter than you. You just have a massive ego.
What made you think they are dumb, pretending or not?
I sense that there's some bullshit going on
He thinks they're dumb because they say things he doesn't like or agree with. Obviously.
>>84639054https://youtu.be/iligHP13808&t=6
>>84639675Usagi really carried her entire show, and possibly half of the anime industry.
>>84639675How important are the transformation scenes in general?I don't care much for it, so isn't it just because of the lewd aspect? I remember that one show showing nipples during the transformations and that was kinda hot, but otherwise... meh?Sakura's outfits were great tho
>>84639734Did Card Captor Sakura have a transformation?The lewd aspect might be for 12 yr old boys that get to see the outline of a girl
>>84639734>How important are the transformation scenes in general?Very iconic to the genre, can't think of examples that don't really have one.>I don't care much for it, so isn't it just because of the lewd aspect? Not really but arguably they tend to be fanservice-y.>>84639757Sakura transforms her key, but not her costume.But her friend makes her dress up in various costumes anyways and records her while fighting. She also literally spends most of her day making costumes or watching/editing those videos by herself.
All women are Queens thas why all little girly is mahou shojuul shr1'mpncessas mhm mhm
>>84639803In the 80's there were transformations even in the westhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAYXdblTBG0
Le filesnitch tripling
Measley as one two three>Your type>If you had to fight one poster to the death who could you beat and who would make you falter in the final moment and do you think they would spare you or kill you?
>>84639803Right, iconic, so is CCS not a magical girl show then?And if she is, then is Tanya a magical girl too? Or maybe Tanya isn't because others can use magic as well, mmmh>>84639820>bro you're telling me we could sell TWO toys instead of one??>>84639808I think it's got nothing to do with Fe and everything to do with you being schizoid ngl famalam
>>84639837WewIad. Sommer down, Midtier
>>84639837I'd fight myself to the death and whoever won would consume the other.
>>84639842https://voca.ro/18uwiYSAqKvJ>>84639851Honorable and touching and trve, 55secondsago.
>>84639842Tanya - linking to unique, or hiddenMoldiver - Molecular Divahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDv1vFZf6W0
>>84639842>Right, iconic, so is CCS not a magical girl show then?CCS fits in an odd spot between being self-aware/vaguely "deconstructive"(becomes a little more blatant as you go, it's hard to tell at the start other than Tomoyo being Tomoyo) while also attempting to be a throwback to the pre-Sailor Moon era(probably why they specifically avoided having Sakura transform in the same way, even if SM didn't really invent that)
>>84639886Apparently the first transformation was Sally the Witch in 1966https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KHz2nFedvc8
>>84639928Never watched Sally directly, but I've heard it called the "first" quite a lot.That's also probably why some call the classic format "little witch".If you want to hear something fun: the recent Idol Precure is also a throwback to a whole subgenre of magical girls where, instead of fighting against stuff, the girl transforms into an idol.
Being schizo isn't real
Being schizo is real, but it usually means you just shouldn't be listened to or taken seriously when it comes to the things you're being schizo about.
>>84639942Jem and the Hologramshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtNPFSz9-5c
Someone told me long agoThere's a calm beforeeee the stormI knowIt's been coming for some timeWhen it's over,So they say,It'll rain a sunny day.I know.Shinin' down like waterI wanna know,Have you everseen the rain?
People who go out of their way to be horrible to others are sick in the soul and people who excuse that just because they mistakenly project their wrathful compassion are enablers.
It's perhaps the most beautiful day of the year, but I still find no motivation to go outside. I was hoping becoming a wagie would help with this but it appears not. After all, I'm still a NEET on my days off.
Some people deserve it
>>84639857>checking against esoterica
[16] Perhaps the struggle with Gnosis is most vividlypresented to us in two figures who were of the utmostsignificance not only as Church Fathers but as personalities.These are Tertullian and Origen, who lived towards the end ofthe second century. Schultz says of them:"One organism is able to take in nourishment and assimilate italmost completely into its own nature; another with equalpersistence eliminates it with every sign of passionateresistance. Thus Origen on one side, and Tertullian on theother, reacted in diametrically opposite ways to Gnosis. Theirreaction is not only characteristic of the two personalities andtheir philosophical outlook; it is of fundamental significancewith regard to the position of Gnosis in the spiritual life andreligious currents of that age.">1Schulz, Wolfgang; Dokumente der Gnosis p. 29 Woo, a citation for a quotation yeeaaah! So much for Joong never cites. But also I did check and it Wolfgang saying the whole thing in 1910. I assumed it was Jung taking over half way though but it seems accurate enough. But yeah, church history time woo! Also calling a gut named Origen an organism is funny. >Origen the introverted organismIt rolls off the tounge!
https://youtu.be/hC_rEpFVOIQ>>84640103To be abused? To be enabers or to be enabled? Sounds like summit someone perpetuating patterns of abuse would say. Mm https://youtu.be/hC_rEpFVOIQ
It's all hot and wet here. Not nice, but at least there won't be so many people out. Still, i won't go. There's really no point anymore. I've been everywhere interesting that's within day distance.Maybe if i had a dog i'd have a reason to go outside again, but i worry i'd just neglect him, and he'd end up like a doggy version of me.
>>84640122CLIQUE CARTEL YUH YUH YUH
>>84639861>Sci-fi with ships and mecha>and magical girlsI'm a huge sucker for moe gap tbqhMoe gap might in fact be one of the most important factors for me to enjoy fiction, it is the spice that brings anything to life and the lack of it more often than not can only make it blandProbably why frieren is shit tbqh>>84639886I wonder if it was a case of them trying to stay relatable to little girlsWhen you see the average mahou shoujo transforms, she gets super powers, she gets super strong or she can fly or she can do a bunch of shit, with sakura it's all external; it's her staf that does the transforming, it's her cards that did the magic, she's still just a little girl that's gotta run around (well, I guess she can use her staff to fly around but she doesn't always do that iirc)
https://youtu.be/TOGWAUwvLRwY'all ponder, we plunder and give to the pure. You not like usKeep thread safe and happenin', Deggy. TT4N
>>84640149Yeah we only get Anya Taylor-Joy correct eye spacing nowadays. Make anime girls look like FAS babies again
Well I for one did shit today, I finally went to the store and got shit to fix my leaky AC unit (well, fix is a big word, I just mcgyver'd that shit and made it so that the water is spilling outside the window now rather than having to deal with fucking buckets of water and emptying them) Tho I'm being a bitch and I can't focus on my UE courses and I keep jumping back to youtube and/or starting a game and I fucking hate it, some days I wonder if maybe I should go see a therapist and get some of that magic ADHD drug or something, but I'm too fucking scared of it fucking me up in some other way
>>84640129If you like your religious, historical, mythological, literary etc. references, PT is going to be very fun. Most of the book will be about relating two similar figures to his two main types.>>84640149Sakura is the most ES magical girl ever, so much she isn't even magical because that would be too unrealistic.Kidding, she actually isAlso>sci-fi and magical girlsYou watched Symphogear right?If not, pick it up right now. That's one where I actually liked the /a/ threads, and right now they are still on /m/.
> 84640160> 84640151Is this typology?>>84640129When are you going to learn how to paste the PDF extracts into the URL field first?>>84640051At least this is psychology enough.Anyhow. This is a naive expression and you're likely not informed enough on such matters, but you're right. You're extremely accurate, actually.>>84639837Have I been training for nothing? I'm fighting all of them. Of course, the ones I like enough aren't labeled as posters.>>84638958I really can't enjoy non-interactive fiction anymore without straight up derailing my consumption into an alternative version of the work.>>84638926Papers, please! but you don't allow in the mistyped ones.
>>84640137oh i didn't know druids had customizable forms now
>>84640160Exercise helps me focus. The mind works best when the body is tired. I would recommend trying that before you do anything drastic with drugs.
To perpetually ponder the preponderances particularly perched, pecking at positions preliminarily peaking through peachy prims.
Tadpoil>Love yourself? Y/N
Alastor on the other side of red door red tape blank like WHERE'S MY WIFEFUCKER NKA Vaggi
[17] Tertullian was born in Carthage somewhere aboutA.D. 160. He was a pagan, and he abandoned himself to thelascivious life of his city until about his thirty-fifth year, whenhe became a Christian. He was the author of numerouswritings wherein his character, which is our especial interest,is unmistakably displayed. Most clearly of all we see hisunparalleled noble-hearted zeal, his fire, his passionatetemperament, and the profundity of his religiousunderstanding. He was a fanatic, brilliantly one-sided in hisdefence of a recognized truth, possessed of a matchlessfighting spirit, a merciless opponent who saw victory only inthe total annihilation of his adversary, his language a flashingblade wielded with ferocious mastery. He was the creator ofthe Church Latin that lasted for more than a thousand years. Itwas he who coined the terminology of the early Church."Once he had seized upon a point of view, he had to follow itthrough to its ultimate conclusion as though lashed by thelegions of hell, even when right had long since ceased to beon his side and all reasonable order lay in shreds before him."2 His impassioned thinking was so inexorable that again andagain he alienated himself from the very thing for which hehad given his heart's blood. Accordingly his ethical code wasbitterly severe. Martyrdom he commanded to be sought andnot shunned; he permitted no second marriage, and requiredthe permanent veiling of persons of the female sex. Gnosis,which in reality is a passion for thinking and knowing, heattacked with unrelenting fanaticism, together withphilosophy and science which differed from it so little. Tohim is ascribed the sublime confession: Credo quia absurdumest (I believe because it is absurd). This does not altogetheraccord with historical fact, for he merely said: "And the Sonof Goddied, which is immediately credible because it is absurd. Andburied he rose again, which is certain because it isimpossible."3
>>84640180>When are you going to learn how to paste the PDF extracts into the URL field first?What would that do?>>84640179Oh do I! And I don't really come accross it casually on the internet very much, and it could be quite useful in my job. Hopefully not being religious myself can help seperate me somewhat from the material, but as a double contrarian I'm very clearly biased against things like buddhists, gnostics and the like. Anybody who acts like a smug not like the others religious pickme I suppose. Somebody who doesn't actually believe in any of it gravitating towards establishment or mainstream church doctrine probably isn't much of a coincidence. I make no pretence that if I lived in that time and been in the right position I'd probably be declaring things herasies like the rest of them. After all things that are actually true don't need rules of engagement now do they? It's people like me who need a mainstream church to give a shit.
https://youtu.be/ddz72iejwf8Shushiits, Ruby skreepign on Bluto[CLICK]
>>84640242>What would that do?Fucking SSS+ magic. Now that's a [REAL PVZZLE DIFFICULTY 999] right there. Shall we solve this, /mbti/?
>Maddawgunghttps://youtu.be/bxlstslSrhYhttps://youtu.be/sdOKYbjgKn8XxFJs rule!!! Ownerb0ner
She is widely typed by personality experts and online consensus as an ESFJ (Extraverted, Sensing, Feeling, Judging). Known as "The Consul," this type perfectly aligns with her highly organized work ethic, nostalgia, and profound dedication.
>>84640259Pasting a full paragraph from Psychological Types in the URL box is like an unique password system to gain access into the hidden Jung's Library website, where you can obtain copies of his unreleased works.
>>84633974>mbti type conspiracy theoryAngels are INFJ and demons ESTP.
>>84640311I read "profound retardation"And saw no issue with that because >ExFJ
>>84640336That's what we call projection, a prime example, even.
>>84640339ESFJs are all dummies.
>>84640339That's just the typical portrayal of the type though.
https://youtu.be/zSC96S9CWMcChocolat is an ESTP/noms honehone bones and donates to the Queen Myrthyr's Throne
>>84640241>Tertullian was a giga chad who sacrificed babies to moloch until he settled down and accepted Christ post twink death.>500 IQ>Started the trend of babbling about Jesus in Latin.>When he said something he would fight to the death on that hill even if it made no sense.>Thinks you should do the same.>Demanded that women be covered up.>For seemingly no reason at all he didn't like my donut steel super speshul interest Gnosticism.>Known for his iconic catchphrase "That's so retarded it might just work", which remains to the day one of the smartest things a Christian has ever said. Well that was a fun one to summarize>>84640259I tried that and it just gave me an AI summary of Tertullian when I pressed enter.
>>84640329No=>Well, yes=>Actually, technically, you're correct, but in the "butterfly flaps its wings, a tornado follows sometime later" way.I already said before what PDF formatting=>URL field=>text field does however.>>84640368Anyone wants to call out the posts being boring? No? Are we all looking down to the ground and pretending there are parallel worlds of post types that don't intersect? Pussies and hussies? Huh?
>>84640330this is the gayest and most INFJ thing I've ever read
>>84640354Checking against the Astrological chart:>An ESFJ wears their heart on their sleeve and initiates conversations easily. In contrast, this astrological combination calculates social interactions, preferring quiet control over loud, highly interactive social crowds. You observe and analyze before letting people in, which is the opposite of the open-door ESFJ.
Yes I figured so.
>>84640330Angels are ESFJdemons are INTPan angel told me this
>>84640387>the gayest and most INFJ thing I've ever read:)
>>84640412>>84640412If you'd likehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWTM652P3t0
>>84640419Neo is a faucking intp
>>84640386Kobayashi is too smart for /mbti/.I prefer notepad++ and the replace tool because I can delete both the line breaks and swap non-ascii characters>>84640387Why did you say INFJ twice
Cartography is for /s4s/ jobberGODS
now post this everywhere fore i send another tastewithfeets guilder up yo bootyhoelMake fresh biofem while at it perXHampst
>>84640412>Angels are ESFJMaybe in your movies.https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1779642628820880.webm
>>84640426He's not. Neo is spiritual.
>>84640488Then why does every MBTI corner of the internet type NEO an intp
>>84640488770+ people disagree counting in the second-place ISTP votes, INFJ isnt even considered
I said that as a joke, but then I rememberd anons really failed to solve episodic mysteries(read: the easy ones, not the big twists) in a show for 7yo girls *multiple times* and tried to convince me there was no way to do it.So yes, Kobayashi is indeed too smart for this website. Despite being a pink cure and an ExFJ(likely N but not sure) who larps as a detective.
>>84640496Because they're INTPs themselves and think that's cool. But INTPs are usually dumb atheists who think abstract logic is an awesome skill, lol.
>>84640507>770+ people disagreeProof of my superior wisdom, I would say.
>>84640517>INFJ not even considered btw
>>84640517>But INTPs are usually dumb atheists who think abstract logic is an awesome skill, lol.Is the mbti indicator your codex?
>>84640507To be fair I can't remember which type he would be, but INTP doesn't sound so wrong.
>>84640553*sigh*Sometimes I'm tired of winning. It's not even a challenge any more.
>>84640488>Neo is spiritualSo are ESFJ, INFP, ENTP, ISFP, etcetera >>84640577>im winningkeklmfaoyou are definitely winning on the spectrum
>>84640593>ISFP>spiritual
>>84640602Harry potter BITCH
>implying type has anything to do with spritualityq[(it doesn't)]p
Some Socionics bros argue that Neo is LSI > ILI. I guess he's not really that intuitive other than seeming a bit spaced out every so often.
>>84640553The pfp make me crack
>>84633974>>your mbti typeINTP>>preferred conspiracy theoryThat I can be loved>>(Optional) What is one seemingly innocuous piece of evidence (as song lyric, a meme template, an urban legend) that you believe proves deep systemic corruption/control?>>(Optional) If given the chance to delete one type of technology forever (e.g. GPS, facial recognition, wi-fi), which would it be and why?Cellphones. I need one to access my bank account, for some fucking reason, same with a bunch of Government servicesFrom 16 to 17 years old, I didn't have a phone. That year felt great, I remembered almost everything, was aware of my surroundings more, interacted with a lot of people and thingsThat demon slate makes you retardedAnyways, where da INTPcelchasers at?
>>84640661Oh yea yea..Oh yeah yeah oh yeah yeah oh yeah yeah i love mr maximillianmus
>>846404885w4 INTP, socionics ILI can be spiritual just fine. 5w6 and so6 are more of the less spiritually inclined, pragmatics.
>>84640386Well OK the truth is that it makes it easier to read the passage and write a post at the same time with the PDF formatting, especially since I'm currently stuck on a 14'' laptop.
but why do you wanna know?
[18] Thanks to the acuteness of his mind, he saw throughthe poverty of philosophical and Gnostic knowledge, andcontemptuously rejected it. He invoked against it thetestimony of his own inner world, his own inner realities,which were one with his faith. In shaping and developingthese realities he became the creator of those abstractconceptions which still underlie the Catholic system of today.The irrational inner reality had for him an essentially dynamicnature; it was his principle, his foundation in face of the worldand of all collectively valid and rational science andphilosophy. I quote his own words:I summon a new witness, or rather a witness more knownthan any written monument, more debated than any system oflife, more published abroad than any promulgation, greaterthan the whole of man, yea that which constitutes the wholeof man. Approach then, O my soul, whether you besomething divine and eternal, as many philosophersbelieve-the less then will you lie-or not wholly divine,because mortal, as Epicurus alone contends-the less thenought you to lie-whether you come from heaven or are bornof earth, whether compounded of numbers or of atoms,whether you have your beginning with the body or are laterjoined to it; what matter indeed whence you come and howyou make man to be what he is, a reasonable being, capableof perception and of knowledge. But I summon you not, Osoul, as proclaiming wisdom, trained in the schools,conversant with libraries, fed and nourished in the academiesand pillared halls of Athens. No, I would speak with you, Osoul, as wondrous simple and unlearned, awkward andinexperienced, such as you are for those who possess nothingelse but you, even as you come from the alleys, from thestreet-corners, and from the workshops. It is just yourunknowingness that I need.4Wait so this guy's an introvert now ... and so is the Catholic church? My mind's gone all wrong. And now his inner reality is irrational?
>>84641150I don't think I can do this, I consulted my soul and it says I'm tired already. My depression makes me lethargic. And this is not a healthy book to be reading in that state of mind. I want something hopeful and fun, my joy is faded. I want something truth to believe in, something beautiful. But this is just >source, I made it upall the way down. Maybe this is all already just another failed experiment.
Bitch, you contact your soul like this?">>84640944It's ugly.>>84641175>I want something hopeful and fun, my joy is faded. I want something truth to believe in, something beautifulDo you? You'd drop your care as soon as you'd have gotten it.>>84641150I'm not reading that.
>>84640944>I'm currently stuck on a 14'' laptop.You sound like you don't like it? You should donate it to me.I should be thinking of making an account to link here where I can "prove my identity" first, so to speak. Obscure puzzle rooms accidents should do it, for sure.
>>84641234>puzzle roomsSounds like somebody wants to spend all day building magical girl puzzles
>>84641150You can... er, summon your inner world to testify even as an extravert.
>>84641217OK OK, I'll fix it for you. I also did another watchword for you to laugh at since I got the urge from the feeling of sadness and I realized it's been two weeks already.Even though I meant "break from work" when I wrote it down I still immediately forgot that after lingering on if I wanted careless or accident for the Battle word, and then jumped at the oppurtunity to use the one I hadn't already picked for my destiny. Just thought that was kinda interesting.>I'm not reading that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MMKB6zYbrc>>84641234It has caused me immeasurable distress since the day I got it. You probably wouldn't want it either though, it's coming up to 7 years old and half the keys don't work so I have to use an external keyboard. I generally trust people are who they say they are here since they have no reason to lie, and even if they aren't the fraud is probably just as good.>>84641217I don't know what I want, maybe that's a good thing since knowing what I want would ruin that too.
>>84641150What made you think he was an extravert?>and so is the Catholic church?No, he just brings them up to drive home the point that this is an important guy he's talking about. >his inner reality is irrational?Irrational meaning it's not something that is arrived at through a logical progression. It's something empirical rather than theoretical.
>>84641313gosh dangint not again. >>84641302I glanced a little bit ahead and Jung says >Tertullian is a classic example of introverted thinking.at the dawn of paragraph 20 and that Origen is a classic example of the extraverted type. a little later on.
>>84641325I assumed when he said that Tertullian and Origen were examples of introversion and extraversion that he put them that way around, and then there was nothing in the bit describing Tertullian that made me think otherwise. But maybe I should have known since Credo quia absurdum est is peak navel gazing bullshit. So I can see the relation between that and Kant which will come up later. I was too busy finding it funny to really consider it
>>84641333Just saying though. After all we got the Freud example of an extraverted PoV despite him being supposedly introverted
how tf do you know if an INTJ is sexually interested in you?
>>84641325>>84641354Also he described his pagan life as lavacious so I was thinking ESFP chad, and also he was an establishment church figure and Jung had just finished complaining about mainline christianity being anti-Gnosis and therefore anti-introverted thinking.
>>84641379Can't be ESFP because Se-groids won't be real until chapter X.
>>84641373He asks if he can take your old laptop off your hands. Small gifts/favours like this are objective ways of show they care about you subjectively. INTJs also like to prove useful and maximize your efficiency in small ways. Also something about moving objects between you, with all their psychic baggage or something.
>>84641365Shut up, heartfag. You've already been btfo'd, and i'm not going to do it again, now matter how bad you want it. It is finished.>>84641313Even when you accidentally forget to fill in the background, if you open it in a new tab it's fine.>AccidentThose can be good. This one seems the most hopeful yet. Or, if nothing else, it's less anal than the two before it. If you picked Accident instead of Careless, and remembered that the Break was from work, what do you think the final word would have been? >it's been two weeks alreadyThat gives me a feeling of sadness. >>84641175>Maybe this is all already just another failed experiment.Is there another book you might want to read with the thread?
>>84641410nta, how about INFP and INFJ?
>>84641413idk what you mean, but whatever you managed to convince yourself of - it wasn't anything Jung claimed, that's for sure.But since it's a dynamic that people haven't fully understood apparently, I can drop this: covering both Freud himself and what's the logic behind it.>First of all Freud, as a creative personality, had a definite extraverted point of view. In his personal psychology on the other hand, he underwent a tremendous change in his life. >Originally he was a feeling type and he began later on to develop his thinking, which was never quite good in his case. He compensated his original introversion by an identification with his creative personality, but he always felt insecure in that identification, so much so that he never dared to show himself at the congresses of medical men. He was too much afraid of being insulted. >Adler, I suppose, was personally never a real introvert, therefore as soon as he had a certain success he began to develop an extraverted behaviour. But in his creative work he had the outlook of an introvert. >The power complex which both of them had showed in Freud's personal attitude, where it belonged. In Adler's case it became his theory, where it did not belong. This meant an injury to his creative aspect. As a matter of fact Freud was the far greater mind than Adler. Freud is a real view, Adler a sidelight, though of considerable importance. >The diagnosis of a type is extremely difficult when it is a matter of a neurosis. As a rule in such a case you see both, introversion as well as extraversion. But the one belongs to the ego-personality, and the other belongs to the shadow- or secondary personality. As is often the case, these two personalities can succeed each other in life. Either you begin your life with the shadow (putting the wrong foot forward) and later on you continue with your real personality, or vice versa.
>>84641397Well sure but there's still the objective Extraversion Sensation Feeling. It just looks naked without the P.Also I'm pretty sure the earlier chapters have been edited a little just not fully. Se-groids are real in chapter XI, and since that's referenced in not just the introduction but also chapter II it means they're canon from at least then!>>84641413>Is there another book you might want to read with the thread?You sound like how I imagine a therapist is like. Supposedly my job comes bundled with one of those E-counselling things, maybe I should look more into that, but I can't remember the exact credentials and don't really want to alert my superiors that anything might be wrong by asking them about it.My reading list is both full and empty. It feels like there's no point reading one book unless you read all the books in the world for context. Maybe I'll eventually forgive Ancient Greece: A Social, Political and Cultural History for moving beyond the Iron Age and yawn through the Penelophenylalanine wars, but that doesn't seem very relevant to the thread. And I won't.I'm already pretty bright for a wagie, what I should be doing is thickening my skin and my wrists so I can be a more effective man rather than thickening my glasses even more. It's just a shame I'm a social coward and lacking the general infastructure to get TOUGH. I wish there were PDFs on the internet that could make you strong by complaining about them.This is an important book for the general so I'll just suck it up, have a bath and keep going tomorrow, it's bed time very soon after all.
>>84633974>>84638926>Congrats on being a 5I think I figured out my depression maybe>be type 5>basic fear is incompetence>be incompetent at everything so be depressed 24/7>spend all day thinking because i feel more in control in my head>avoid trying stuff IRL because it usually results in failure>failure feels like super depressionbut>if i actually gain competence at something the depression should just go away>if you have this personality type you will probably just always be depressed until you find major success
>>84641413If you picked Accident instead of Careless, and remembered that the Break was from work, what do you think the final word would have been?Oh right, I forgot that bit. Probably "oppurtunistic" or something like that. Something about being a rat that sneaks after weakness to compensate for his own pathetic nature.
Or just the word oppurtunity in general, since I am that rat, playing hope chess with reality
>*sets rat trap*that'll show those dirty rats
>>84641566Acting obtuse on purpose only works if you are a cute girl and your type is a feeloid, heartfag. Get behind me, 2/3s Satan.>>84641354Well, maybe your concepts of introversion and extraversion aren't quite aliened with Jung's. He described what he considers the introverted reaction to Gnosis first, which is to forcefully reject the foreign object. The passage is confusing at first because he wants to surprise you and make you consider what he means, i believe. I don't want to sound too critical, but i hope i haven't over corrected and now sound too patronizing. I don't want to scare you off Jung, and i really do think you're doing a fairly good job with him. >>84641379>described his pagan life as lavacious so I was thinking ESFP chadFair enough. It'll come up soonish, why he mentioned that.>Jung had just finished complaining about mainline christianity being anti-Gnosis and therefore anti-introverted thinking.That's an understandable assumption to make, but Jung doesn't seem to consider Gnosis as introverted thinking.
>>84641763Counterpoint: my creative personality is feeloidal and cute, sensoidal even!That makes me wonder if you can flip the concept on Jung, and claim that his "creative personality" is properly typed as INFJ.
>>84641741>major successWhy does major success matter to you as a 5?
>>84641802Because the 5s whole thing is independence and self sufficiencyMajor success = financial independence and no longer having to sweat about losing your job, getting on your boss's bad side, etc.
>>84641741>>846418023 or 1 or 8 whatever in his 5-based tritype.>>84641373You don't remember the last week but you're very sore for some reason!
>>84641763It makes sense in retrospect that he's trying to be shocking/suprising. And you can't really blame him for what feels like being machine translated from his own swiss dialect of german. It's hard to know if it would work better in that language. The jokes and wordplay might work better if the pacing wasn't thrown off by needing to read every sentence three times. I'm someone who enjoys playful negativity so I don't mean that much by constantly negging jung either, it keeps those parts of my brain engaged. And being btfo after being smugly wrong about something is a good way to learn. If you enjoy traumatising your brain I supposeI attributed introverted thinking to gnosis because he compared thinking to the best gnostilogical type. But now I suppose intuition might have been saved from attatchment to the pneumatic, because it could be being saved for gnosis in itself. Or something absurd like that.
>>84640452https://youtu.be/mh4AQkw4JjcI'm retired from making threads.
>>84641723>Also I'm pretty sure the earlier chapters have been edited a little just not fully. On that I wanted to say, yeah of course.Still a shame, because many of the things related to function-types, or those fancy definitions like the "dynamic image"(Feeling) won't show up in PT. No circles either. If the book was written after he came up with these things instead, it would have been really interesting to see.At very least I wish he decided to write a summary of all he said about his typology, all neatly arranged in the same place.
Not as interesting as the "Lung" one, but there are some obvious things for me to talk about. I guess with the more intresting ones there tends to be less to talk about, where as with ones like these it's easy to talk about them. It's a nice even spread. Some charts are obviously dominated by one corner over the others, or one word, or idea, but this one was nice and even. Almost too even...>carpetThe other word was color, but "Stained Glass" comes up in these for me so often that i had a bad reaction to it and went for the very next thing that came to mind, which was Breaking Glass by David Bowie, which gave me carpet.>LowThe album that song is from. The other words that came to mind here were "sharp", "hidden", and "shoe", but those were all pretty forced so i just admitted that "carpet" might as well have been "Bowie".>Weeping WallAnother song off Low. It's about the Berlin Wall, not the West Wall, thank God. If i had gone with my normal "stained glass", this likely would have been Castle. It would have worked out the same, which is funny considering how different my gut reaction is to each word. I have more of a reaction to Weeping Wall, even if it isn't a pleasant one, so i guess it was the better route after all.>horns, stormStorms and sea can only be captured musically by horns. It's sort of stormy here, and that often results in some trafficlights failing.
>breakfest, penisBoth things one takes in bed. But more seriously it makes me think of a very intimate early morning between a man and a women, centered on the bed. The hearth was the center of the home, it used to be, but these days it seems to be the bed. That's rather sad, if you think about it. >twinsI've been following the Monster storytime. German word plus "pair" made me think of Anna and Johan.>outgrownI'm too big for a twin bed. Getting a new mattress at that time: It's a strange thing to stick in my memory, but it does.>hostelHostel over hotel, because that particular instance of bed has an intimate air about it, and hotels feel very impersonal, where as hostels have at least this idea of community.>crowsSomething to do with Odin, i guess. It had to be some kind of bird. Pelicans are too parental, albatross too lonesome, eagles too imperial.
>deerThey shed their antlers, which aren't horns, but i guess that sort of thing is blurry enough that my mind can jump to deer. Boars also came to mind, but deer had a stronger pull. I guess antlers are more like horns than tusks, even though it didn't occur to me until just now that boars don't have horns. I guess there's some part of me that doesn't want antlers to be horns. One key distinction between horns and antlers is that antlers are shed, where as horns are not.>snowI was reminded of this painting. At first i was going to put murder, but i quickly determined that it was this Russian painting which, along with some other things, reminded me of Dostoyevsky, which, along with some other things, quite naturally reminded me of murder. Snow is the word that i felt best represented my mental imagine of the painting. Had i put murder, the final word would have been trap, or snare, which would have been... inauspicious.>hunter Hunters in the Snow is another painting, and that's what i had in mind more than anything. Influenced, no doubt, by snows connection to murder. Perhaps without that i would have come up with something more along these lineshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mUeCIF_EjABut probably not considering there was also the painting connection. When i saw the hunters in the snow, their abundance of beagles reminded me of my own lack. I was also reminded of my hunter/fisher analogy.Man, i really seem to want it to be winter forever, or at least not summer.
>>84642032https://youtube.com/shorts/W-F1W0t-iS0
>>84642032Why's that? too much drama?
>>84642185https://youtu.be/ATrY8CHY6qg
>>84642092To be fair nowadays people live in studio apartments, where there's really not much more than a bed in the first place. The home has become a safe place to sleep in between work days. And screens certainly change how we interact with our surroundings. Ironically maybe our desire to stare at screens is directly correlated to our past of staring into the fire for hours. LEDs are like little fires, so maybe not much has really changed in the last million years or so. I suppose the biggest difference is the individualization of our screens, now we can have little fires all to ourselves, that show us things so personal we can't bear the thought of others seeing us choose them. Maybe it's an example of too much freedom making us more miserable. Maybe that's sad. Maybe that makes it nice to think there's another hominid staring into the same vision.>An ABUNDANCE of beaglesis a pretty amazing concept. like they're water. I suppose you're on the prowl for something in the freezing wasteland, some kind of animal either has quarry or company. Probably a mixture of bothI'm sure you'll be glad to know we're having our summertime in bongistan at least. It won't last long though.
>>84642412I have a hard time understanding these posts that are just youtube videos sometimes. I wish people didn't feel the need to be so cryptic.
>>84642423>I have a hard time understanding
Pay mind to the silence between the bells, because the loudest truths often arrive disguised as pauses.Close inspection of the old photographs reveal tiny distortions in the corners, as though the room itself had shifted when nobody was looking. Attention drifted across the ceiling while the storm pressed its fingers against the windows like an impatient visitor. You might think the hallway ends at the last door, yet every night the shadows arrange themselves differently along the walls. Could it be that the strange buzzing beneath the floorboards only begins after midnight, when everyone else is asleep? Miss too many details, and the pattern disappears before you ever realize it was there at all. Something waits at the edge of recognition, patient enough to remain unnoticed until the precise moment you finally understand what has been watching you.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNfF_k8QbOg&li
You know, at some point, there is no more headway to be made with abstracted, purely theoretical discussion as it pertains to typology. Eventually, all the words have been defined, the concepts laid forth, the types described in innumerable depth. And, for what? To what end?Not a moment closer to actual differentiation, no closer to your own soul.What benefit does it serve to memorize words? A detailed verbosity does not aid oneself in the discovery of oneself.In fact-It may even do quite the opposite, alienate the ego from the symbolic life of the unconscious, placed behind a safeguard of steriley defined words with their concrete understanding of superficial ideas proclaiming depth.
"feel the need" said the obsession-compulsed
>>84642640I don't care about differentiatcringe. I just want to categorize people. Maybe you do have a point though and we should shift the focus more to general psychology. Or maybe something actually useful, like socialism.
>I just wanna be the arbiter of everyone else instead of integrating my own bsNever do the real Manly Mushrooms, then, pimpsqueak. Xtreme ojos karma return on the agenda
>>84642677Maybe you should put some effort into understanding your desire to categorize people. Or don't. It doesn't really matter.>>84642721Your reading comprehension is abysmal, heartfag, abysmal.
>>84642744That's not heartfag..
>>84642775All animefags are the same, and I'm tired.
>>84642802>I'm tiredYou have very low pattern recognition and or long term memory.
>>84642814All that gay ass anime looks the same. It's almost like they.... have bad tastes.
>>84642830>looks the sameYes, because you have low pattern recognition.
>>84642721This picture should be part of a meme>fictional INFP: [pics of Tsubomi being shy and stuttering around]>actual INFP: [your comic]
>>84642848It is pretty difficult to differentiate ugly slop from ugly slop, I have to agree with you there. It's almost like... little girl anime all look like trash and have retarded styles and the people who watch them have terrible tastes.Couldn't be!
Uhm should I wear panties to bed or just sleep naked I'm a boy
>wtf you can't tell the difference between [little girl with massive bulbous head, purple hair in pig tails and gigantic, dead ugly eyes #7147] and [little girl with massive bulbous head, purple hair in pig tails and gigantic, dead ugly eyes #7267]!? U MUST HAVE BAD PATTERN RECOGNITION I LOVE [little girl with massive bulbous head, purple hair in pig tails and gigantic, dead ugly eyes #7267]
I can tell the difference between a nigdian and a Chinese tho
>>84641723>You sound like how I imagine a therapist is likeI hope not too often. >E-counsellingI recommend against it. I know first hand, it's just a poor substitution for the real thing. I don't know what kind of a bitch it is to find a decent shrink in bongland, but if you're going to bother with that at all you should commit and do it properly. There's really no point in half assing it. And if you ever do go you should go with some set aim. Don't fall for the """check-in""" scam. It sounds like you got a cushyish gig: I have to say, i'm as surprised as i am pleased. But thinking about it, i've heard places like Starbucks have pretty highfalutin handouts, and i've seen youtube videos that are sponsored by E-counseling sites, so it would not be surprising if in Soviet Britain, your Bojangle's equivalent has such benefits packages. Even if it doesn't seem to come to anything, i think you have a certain thoughness. So, i think the trouble for you, is more about applying the toughness you already have to something, so that it comes to something. So, so long as you're doing something, i think you're alright enough.>It feels like there's no point reading one book unless you read all the books in the world for contextI get that way sometimes, but with writing. I think the beauty of fiction is that you don't have to worry about that so much. The best fiction creates it's own context.>This is an important book for the general so I'll just suck it up, have a bath and keep going tomorrowThat's good. I like seeing you read it, and look forward to when you finish. I'm very curious to see how this all plays out, and what comes after.
But can you tell the difference between making an observation and trying to tell people what to do?
>>84642951>>84642869That is the very definition of low pattern recognition thoughbeit.
>>84642993Yes, I've already said differentiating ugly, uninspired slop from ugly, uninspired slop is difficult.It's like trying to differentiate a cat turd from a cow turd by taste. Just tastes like shit.
I'll be the first to admit my sensation is not differentiated enough to parse out the defining qualities between gray 19 and gray 25. It's just gray.But maybe your sensoid brain is better attuned to spot those differences. :^)
So uh... why are we arguing that a picture with Tsubomi does not have Tsubomi in it?
INxx anthemhttps://youtu.be/Oz_1lFKlGhAAlso sorry janfrens but mutiny at the mental ward doesn't constitute flooding we just like three feet away from each other on the same mobile IP and I COULD have told you that on IRC so
>>84643304What kind of chips do you like
>>84643016I wish to take credit for this post and call all girls that aren't me funny but cruel namesPSYCHE
>>84643338Poker.And yourself, shameless little thing?
You're such a WING five, you probably think this homage is about you. Overanalyze it under my boot.https://youtu.be/NxfOfsdd8jg
>>84643361Are you saying you want to be me because I'm your type, rare and unique, and you're just an Extroverted Sensor who won't consneed to total loss?
>>84643422Why are you replying for me?>>84643361Bbq. Poker is fun though.
>>84642951>>wtf you can't tell the difference between [little girl with massive bulbous head, purple hair in pig tails and gigantic, dead ugly eyes #7147] and [little girl with massive bulbous head, purple hair in pig tails and gigantic, dead ugly eyes #7267]!? U MUST HAVE BAD PATTERN RECOGNITION I LOVE [little girl with massive bulbous head, purple hair in pig tails and gigantic, dead ugly eyes #7267]how do they keep their heads up? wouldn't they overbalance?
