Is wh!te national!sm possible to do without becoming naz!s or offing all browns? Seems like naz!sm or white christianity could accomplish it, but naz!sm doesn't care about non german whites, and white christianity needs to become un-cucked to accomplish it. Or maybe a nordic religion could lead it? But in the end it has to be a movement that isn't satan!c because whites' virtues are wasted if they fall for the demonic route. I didn't post this in /pol/ because I don't want agenda pushers to jump on it.
>>84644984/pol/or /lgbt/
>>84644984eastern Europe are white nationsMy family is from Poland and they never saw a black person until they were in Gdansk or Warsaw as a teenager. You can find Eastern European countries that are over 95% white
>>84645002I'm talking about how to unite all white people around the world to stop globalismization of white first world countries. Yes EE seems like a good base, if only countries like Russia can be tardwrangled into behaving and not always trying to invade. We can start by expelling globalists and globalist sympathizers from EE. But we actually need a (non hateful) philosophy to unite around.
>>84644984>nationalismyou need to have nations first. america any most other places are just economic zones.
>>84644984Racism is cringe and globalism is inevitable.
>>84645557globalisatism will collapse under its own contradictions only blood bonds endure.
>>84645557I'm sure this post will age well in the upcoming years
>>84645557Begone racemixing chud. Multiculturalism has proven to be ineffective and bad. Its not racism to want a 1 ethnicity 1 religion country.
>>84645624>I'm not racist I just want everyone who doesn't have my skin color to be gone
>>84645002Not anymore, once word gets out westerners are going to move in, and following westerners? Browns
>>84645557>mrw the darkest dungeon fleshy polyp has to suffer more low effort polposting
>>84645663>I'm not racist I just want everyone who doesn't have my skin color to be goneYes. Clearly non whites want and love racism based on their actions against whites. I spent years trying to treat everyone the same even after so much bad treatment. I don't hate them, that would be lowering self to their tribal warfare bull, I just want them to go away, and if they won't stay away they should be killed. Enough is enough.
>>84645763>I'm not racist>"Yes you are">Yes I amGreat argument.
>>84645038The only real way to get a pan white nationalist solution is if the far right stops being a de facto obstructionist bloc in the EU and start shaping it towards a federation based on shared white christian heritage.
>>84645770>You not fucking a std ridden landwhale black hooker is sexist and discrimatoryThis is what you sound like. Everyone is entitled to boundaries and safety. Racism implies hate, something I don't want to waste my energy and time on, especially against certain people.
>>84645796>std ridden landwhale black hooker is sexist and discrimatoryWhat are you even talking about? Boxing with shadows dude, go to sleep.
>>84645795That is if the globalists and sellouts are purged. Would it not be more efficient to let some traumatic event occur that stirs the people, enough to snap them out of complacency, that they beg for someone to take over and strengthen their borders and kick out the non whites? Because if theyre stuck in "nothing ever happens" mode theyll just fade away, no matter how many vids online they see of anti white racism.
white nats are just some other problem that in reality society doesn't like
>white nationalism>jewish goth outfit>nigger weed
>>84644984Yes. You just do a South Africa, but only let humans voteCreate an enclave
lmao did this faggot use ! to censor the wordsthis isn't reddit, newfagyou can just say what you want to say
>>84645856>random sand nigger does european 9/11>the problem was clearly not enough state security not the sand niggers>governments expand their powers and crack down on white nationalists even moreThis is what happened over in america and it will happen here. The only way you can get political change is by the ballot or by the bullet, not by waiting for people to suddenly adopt your beliefs our of nowhere.
>>84645763living in a country where people "hate" or treat each other so much worse based on their race sounds so fucking miserable to meand i say that about both sides, like both blacks hating whites and vice versai can't even fathom how shitty living in a place like this must be and I'm not trying to support race mixing here, I'm taking about day to day lifei'm glad it didn't happen to me holy fuck
>>84644984White nationalism as a vague pan-european movement is great, but only to the extent that it motivates people to revitalize their own existing ethnic group. It has to develop within a country from the basis of that nations ethnic identity i.e. English, Polish, Italian, etc. And beyond that, the unique cultural elements that make that ethnic group feel at home in their own country and enabled to thrive and prosper.Without that, white nationalism is a hollow movement. White nationalists would be wise to cut away the fat and excess "alt-right'" idead that prevent real ethnic awareness within a group. You can't be going around hating "Anglos" if you're an English-speaking european from a white, English speaking background. That's just the vestigal remnant of an attempt to be counterculture that exists within the alt right.
>>84647751>You can't be going around hating "Anglos" if you're an English-speaking european from a white, English speaking background.Irish BTFO how will they ever recover
>>84644984The problem with Christianity is that it's roots are in demon worship since it's tied itself to the old testament god. The first thing the non jewish gentiles did was try to remove the demon, Marcion, the gnostic groups ect. They're now all viewed as heretics since you know who always wins. Almost like they made a supernatural pact or something by cutting the skin off their dick in a blood covenant ritual.
>>84647382>by the bulletSo I guess start in countries where hunting guns are legal for citizens>>84647406Yeah its been basically literally all of them from blackest blackest to pissest yellow, from physical damage from medical malpractice to grape to sabotage at school and work to literal pimping and attempts at life. These people are not fit to exist around whites.>>84647751>can't be going around hating "Anglos" if you're an English-speaking european from a white, English speaking background. Yeah they've got to realize they have bigger issues than what white phenotype they have.
>>84648038i mean miserable as in living in a diverse country and not having to deal with any of this racial tension bullshit like it happens in americamy country is diverse as fuck and yet we don't have to deal with this shit over here
>>84648053Let me guess Brazil? Trust me I find it just as retarded as you.
>>84644984>Is wh!te national!sm possible to do without becoming naz!s or offing all browns?Yeah, just enforce the existing laws. actually arrest people for rape, actually arrest people for murder. arrest people for incest. don't let them out or excuse it because they are brown retards. Suddenly the country isn't as attractive to these people.
>>84648073>don't let them out or excuse it because they are brown retardsDat be racism and shiet
>>84648073Also cut off all gibs for non native borns. >just enforce the existing lawsThat would mean firing all non whites from police and army to get rid of the corruption.
>>84644984There will never be white nationalism. You have no precedent in history that proves it has ever worked, it has no popularity with the white masses, and there's no path available to bring it into reality.
>>84648117>proves it has ever workedNazism. >has no popularity with the white massesScratch the pc facade and most people would love to only live around their same race. >there's no path available to bring it into reality.False, many paths exist read OP.
>>84647382>random sand nigger does european 9/11I was talking about some event that would actually effect most people personally, not an event like 2 towers being crashed and the media pretending like it was a horrible suffering for all of society.
>>84648174>NazismYou know the political party had nothing but snakes in it right? Everybody viving for power leading to constant backstabbing and nothing being done for the long-term health of the country? In this Germany's case, Hitler never really delegated at all. He was just obsessed with killing Jews. That's it Nothing more, nothing less.
>>84648174>NazismShit that failed in 10 years and was never tried again >Scratch the pc facade and most people would love to only live around their same race.Most people don't care and have no problem interacting with people outside their race, most prejudice comes from the false idea that other races are causing them economic hardship anyway >False, many paths exist read OP.It says nothing about how you would ever bring it into reality. Like just imagine trying to create a little israel for white people in 2026. You'll never get anyone in the world on board to making it a reality
>>84648275Fake and gay.>>84648276>most prejudice comes from the false idea that other races are causing them economic hardship anyway They literally are.>Like just imagine trying to create a little israel for white people in 2026Its called Utah.
>>84648064yes unfortunately kekit is a shithole but i'm glad we don't have these problems
>>84648318Well atleast your mutts are hot and in good mood kek.
>>84648312You can go to utah then if you think it's already the embodiment of the white nation
>>84648312>Its called UtahBy the way, I just want you to know Mormons also did the same thing that killed everybody that was against them, even amongst themselves. I believe the founder used his sons like assassins. And by the way, I just want you to know this too Mormons allow black people into their religion now, most likely because of college basketball
>>84648312Mormons are mostly white, but they operate like a maffia/cult and have started wars in america killing americansThey are also not christian
>>84648344>>84648362Fake and cringe and gay
>>84648446Show me what your web searches show then
>>84648446You are brainless
>>84644984Christianity is fundamentally anti-white, no white nationalist movement will get very far on such a base.Also, putting whites first has never implied extermination of non-whites. That is Jewish propaganda. Another aspect of the racism (white guilt) brainwashing where in group preference is demonized.
>>84645663its called staying with your own kind. dogs do that, wolfs do that, its natural.
>>84644984>offing all brownsThe West is multicultural. If you want a white nation at scale you'd at least have to deport the browns somewhere else. There are no completely white nations anymore. The past 20 years have destroyed Europe. The people coping ITT and saying Eastern Europe is still white and totally isn't completely flooded with Muslims and Jeets are delusional. You definitely couldn't do it in America. It just wouldn't be possible. If you want small white communities then that's more feasible, but chances are it'll be infiltrated and subverted by feds before it ever gets off the ground.>Nazism doesn't care about non-german whitesThe Nazis were a failed state that only lasted 12 years. Fascism is more versatile and could be adapted to any nation's needs. Spain, Italy, Turkey, and Greece were all fascist nations that believed in preserving the national identity of their people.>white christianityChristianity will never not be cucked. Slave morality and multiculturalism are baked into the foundations of the religion and they're the reason why Christianity is as big as it is today in the first place. Christianity is for everyone, and it always has been.>nordic religionA complete larp. You might as well larp that you worship the gods from Skyrim at that point. Trying to revive a dead religion never works. Religions require tradition and institutions in order to continue their legacy. if that gets cut off, they are dead forever. They can't be brought back. You have no concept of what a nordic society was like. You just like the idea of it because social media told you it was le based and le white.
>>84648640>dogs do that, wolfs do that, its natural.Dogs don't do that it leads to inbreeding and wolves only do it because it's only wolves in the area
>>84645002I'll redpill you on eastern europe as a romanianWe don't particularly guard our borders better than western Europe. It's just that there's much better countries to be a parasite in than here. The people aren't exactly 'traditional' either. All my female highschool classmates love feminism, lgbt and multiculturalism. Few people actually attend churchOnce the niggers and arabs completely destroy western Europe, they'll probably move here next>Russia is muh traditional countryThey lead in divorce rates and HIV cases, and have like 25 million muslims
>>84645663Yes, I'm racist, just like you and everyone else. Except instead of anti-white, I'm pro-white.
>>84648631>Christianity is fundamentally anti-whiteVast majority of white countries that haven't been jammed by globalist jews are Christian, you need some kind of religion or faith to keep out the demonic and their bioweapons. >putting whites first has never implied extermination of non-whitesObviously. But people call you racist just for wanting freedom of association and act like youre killing browns by not letting them into your white country.>>84648701>The WestNo such thing since they mass imported nonwhites and gave into globohomo. The founders are crying.>Slave morality and multiculturalism are baked into the foundations of the religionLiterally all you would have to do is update it with equal rights, and turning the other cheek not necessary for soldiers and officials and multiculturalism not necessary. Its the most recent white man's values (honor, piety, humility, chastity, etc.).>nordic religionDon't know alot about it, but would be hesitant to apply since they focused so much on nature and demons (fey, etc.). >>84648803>It's just that there's much better countries to be a parasite in than here. The people aren't exactly 'traditional' either. Came from Moldova, and basically yeah. If youre a capital in trafficking and have gypsies running around and your noncity streets are compacted pebbles, that doesn't appeal to a street shitter, whomn needs a actual street to shit on. >RussiaThey don't care about their people and are enslaving and invading neighbors regularly throughout history.
>>84648925>>Christianity is fundamentally anti-white>Vast majority of white countries that haven't been jammed by globalist jews are Christian, you need some kind of religion or faith to keep out the demonic and their bioweapons.I personally believe that Christianity might be better than pure atheism without anything else, but it has many limitations as a framework for white nationalism> 1. International, non-exclusionary>There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus> 2. Meekness, loving your neighbour, turning the other cheek as core values> 3. Thou shall not kill and other appeals at restraining from violence, in order not to lose access to heavenIf we'd actually have a "race war", how many christians would probably sit it out, because they fear losing access to the awesome jew heaven?> 4. The very concept of heaven itself + everything ending when Christ comesAt the end of the day, whether you're successful or not in creating a better life for the generations that come after, it doesn't *really* matter. Win or lose, you're gonna have a blast in heaven, and the universe is gonna end forever anyway so who cares that the jews win. The ideal religion for this sort of stuff would be one that believes in reincarnation into one's bloodline, in which case, you might have to live in niggerhell again if you fail
>>84648925> But people call you racist just for wanting freedom of association and act like youre killing browns by not letting them into your white country.This is exactly why the Jews invented the subversive concept know nas racism. It was specifically created to be used as a weapon, and its worked incredibly well. Possibly their best innovation.
>>84648986Anon do you not remember British Christians colonizing almost every country at one point? Take the practical things that are necessary for building nations and ignore the rest. Or are there other religions or beliefs that are similar to nation building abrahamism. >>84649007I really don't understand globalist jews who want to get rid of whites.
>>84649046>Anon do you not remember British Christians colonizing almost every country at one point?But couldn't you say that it's kinda just circumstantial/correlation, but not causation? Unless there's some bible verses that I'm unaware of that say it's cool to colonize nons, I'd just assume that it's something that happened independently of christianity.It's just human nature to be selfish and yoink resources from weaker people
>>84648701If it's possible to import them all in 20 years, then it's possible to deport them all in 20 years, you fucking idiot.
>>84649289>then it's possible to deport them all in 20 yearsNo it's not. Letting them come here voluntarily and fast-tracking their citizenship is much easier to do than forcefully removing them once they're fully established here.
>>84649087Abrahamic religions basically prime a people for being good nation builders. Things like stopping spread of disease and degenecracy, promoting obedience and order and hard work, etc. But nowadays its more about talking than physically leading your men into battle. The Jewish religion turned into a mostly mercantile moving class who has to depend on a host nation, they've incurred too much Ill will with their tactics and Israel has yet to become a great nation, maybe because they literally rejected their messiah for scolding them. Islam while better at self defense in modern world than Christianity, and less dependant than jews, is almost impossible to convert modern people into or to develop higher advanced tactics or tech like whites or jews, and just depend on over (inter) breeding and oil. Oil which could be phased out and replaced overnight if you had access to certain docs, and we know over breeding bad genetics doesn't get you far other than easy masses to exploit. Christianity seems to be virtuous enough to not incur so much Ill will, whites have good genetics, and they're competent enough to compete with jews on inventions and tactics. If you bring back pagan stuff you would have to edit out stuff like homos and demons and bring in new gods of tech and stuff and make it less nature focused. But then it would not be that faith anymore so you might as well just make a new one while youre at it. >>84649289Most would leave by choice once gibs dry up, and their racist hiring tactics exposed and punished. Just make sure to grape their finances on the way out for retribution and compensation. Understand that the only reason theyre there is because leaders made deals to let them in easily, they have never conquered shit and will leave at any pushback.
>>84649354>they have never conquered shit and will leave at any pushbackThat's very optimistic. Their kids who grew up here and never knew the old country won't leave. Even if you do give them a hard time, they'll jump ship to other Western countries at best. They won't go back to where they came from because where they came from is infinitely worse than the worst you could possibly put them through as a Western leader.
>>84649373Most of them came over in the last 20 years and their children aren't assimilated enough due to only wanting to keep within their culture. >infinitely worse than the worst you could possibly put them through as a Western leaderThats the point of organizations like ICE.
>>84649409>their children aren't assimilated enoughThey're assimilated into a new culture of ghetto immigrant children, separate from Europeans and separate from the culture of their home country. They wouldn't fit in if they went back. They grew up in Europe.>Thats the point of organizations like ICE.If I was Indian or Somali, I would do anything I could to never go back to India or Somalia. I wouldn't care if I have to be in a concentration camp or move to a lower-tier country in Latin America or Eastern Europe. I got a taste of the good life. I'm not going back. ICE is dysfunctional and can't even get deportation numbers higher than they were in the Biden years. I guess we get some funny videos on the internet sometimes? And they shoot white people too?
>>84649467>new culture of ghetto immigrant childrenI guess yeah.>do anything I could to never go backThe perfect class of people to poke and prod to violence and use as examples of how much we need stronger borders. Or just to sterilize and enslave if they physically refuse to leave.
White nationalism is just nordicist. I've seen many saying that if they can establish an ethnostate that's only phase 1 and they want to ultimately kill all Polish and Italian people to create a Germanic reich so that there are only Germanic people on the planet. Slavic people and med people should be suspicious of racism, you are the next targets of it whether or not you realize it but they need you as bodies and voters for now in the period before they gain power.
>>84649319>pass law saying they need to gtfo>most leave voluntarily due to socioeconomic pressure>the stragglers get rounded up and booted outHow is this difficult, retard?>>84649354Exactly. Seize all their assets and tell them to fuck off, and they will go. It's as simple as that.>>84649373>Even if you do give them a hard time, they'll jump ship to other Western countries at bestWho cares? If another country wants to be cucked, that's their prerogative. As long as they gtfo, it becomes someone else's problem.
>>84649673>Slavic people and med people should be suspicious of racism, you are the next targets of it whether or not you realize it but they need you as bodies and voters for now in the period before they gain power.Exactly why I don't subscribe to nazism. They betrayed their loyal inferior genetic ppl. They could have easily accepted all whites even inferior whites, as a 2nd caste to join their cause, they would have basically won through numbers alone back then. They could have kept their first caste racially pure and second caste as soldiers workers etc. They could have even betrayed them after they won, if they were so set on having on pure dna nation spanning Europe. Their ego and absolute racial idolatry didn't let them see the chance. Who's going to toil their fields and work their factories, perfect DNA gassed up germanics who believe its their God given right to never do grueling humiliating drudgery work? Slavics are called that for a reason, known mostly for their hard work and until globohomo, piety. And meds, had Rome and produced someone like Jesus. Unless they are willing to welcome high achieving and old bloodline non German whites into their Reich (long term, not just as sacrifices) theres no point in non Germans giving them a 2nd look. Especially with what happened with all that gold stealing. >>84649752>If another country wants to be cucked, that's their prerogative. As long as they gtfo, it becomes someone else's problem.You think other pale countries would accept them after they saw what happened in the last 20 years?
>>84649752>Seize all their assets and tell them to fuck off, and they will go. It's as simple as that.Exactly, getting basically nepo'd by globalists to be their bioweapon doesn't count for cow shit. A cowardly demon worshipping people never prosper long term, their evil tactics like scamming stealing and graping bring so much Ill will from others that their ill gotten gains don't matter at some point.
>>84648276>other races are causing them economic hardshipThey are though? And retards like you keep voting for more
I don't want white children. Truth is I've never felt like white people had my back on anything. Quite the contrary, I feel like white people have tried to fuck me over to appease outside groups. White women are nasty whores that sleep around with ethnics. White men are cucks that never do anything but talk shit about other white men online. Why the hell would I want to bring a son up in this? You have no solutions either. Just have children so the son can live an even more miserable existence. Have a daughter so she can get fucked by foreigners. Yeah. Good solutions. White nationalism is a joke.
>>84650827You sound like a massive fucking faggot and cuck.
>>84650841Your son will be a minority who worships nigger ballers and rappers and the white daughters will get fucked by foreigners until she is maybe ready to settle down with your cucked loser son. That's white people now. Imagine as they decrease further in population share. There are zero benefits to being a white man. Just extreme downsides. Better off breeding with a Jew girl. At least Jews actually have each other's back and see themselves as God's rather than niggers as God.
>>84650827Woah buddy might be time to close pol and go outside some.>Why the hell would I want to bring a son up in this? You have no solutions either. Just have children so the son can live an even more miserable existence. >Have a daughter so she can get fucked by foreigners. The solution is kick out the demonics (practicing jews, demon worshippers, globalists) and darks and cut off the internet from nations that have those people and become food self sufficient. Thats literally it. You want to build something while the enemy is killing pillaging and graping? Kick them out or kill them first. Then get to getting rid of systemic and bio issues.
