Bro these threads are retarded.
Maybe making a discord group would be better?

And to stay on topic: I've been sober for years. Quitted because social stigma towards minorities I belong, after hitting rehab a few times.

Wondering if smoking weed now is going to throw My ass into space like it used to do when I was a newbie. I just wanted to feel at least a little euphoric today because My life is a bore but as things are right now all I can get is DXM.

>>84645845
i think most people are on an anonymous imageboard for a reason and don't want to use goycord
yes it would hit hard

>>84645845
i've been chasing the highs i used to have when i first started using, never been able to get them back, even after year long t-breaks.
if you do, maybe smoke double the amount you would

>>84646032
brutal tolerance levels

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>It will never feel like your first time ever again.

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I'm quitting nicotine
would taking shrooms and/or ketamine help get through withdrawals faster? I can white knuckle the cravings but having zero dopamine in my brain is really lame and I'd like to stop feeling like an ADHD teenager as soon as possible

>t. currently trying to read a book
>usually can read for 4 hours without needing a break
>now can't even make it 20 minutes without needing a break
>even staring at a brickwall for 20 minutes to boredom max before trying to focus isn't working.
day 3 btw

I miss taking mushrooms in my van while I was parked behind taco bell in the middle of winter, probably one of the best times of my life
but now I work and have to pay rent so no more of that
at least it's an easy job and I can smoke weed while I'm here without anyone caring much

I don't miss shrooms at all, always felt intoxicated while on them.
Weed on the other hand, i can't live with it.

Shrooms are nice, I haven't done any in a long time though because I'm always loud on them (crying, then laughing, then moaning, repeat) and my mom threatened to kick me out over it :(
I am more quiet on acid though, my last trip involved me watching rick and morty (amazing show to watch on psychedelics) and moving around with a lot of younger versions of me.

>>84647172
I'm very interested in shrooms. A much needed break from deliriants

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Going to try some ket for the first time this evening, I'm guessing a bit over half a g will be fine.
Experimenting with drugs in my room whenever I'm not playing a game or reading isn't how I imagined I'd spend my 20s but it could be worse

Scored some big bum beers niggas, drinking with no shirt in these haunted woods as if it were Tijuana payday, slurring and disturbing mind a whirring, risk is elevated for me, I crave to be the woelds most recently crowned billionaire SO bad but safety is important and I need weed and stuff, of course I don't deserve a good chunk

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happy monday, hope everyone had a nice weekend~

>>84646585
yep.
only once.
i wasted my chance to have a proper LSD trip too because i took pussy doses at first

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>Touch the pot for the first time in 3 or 4 years
>Get too intimate with my body, the force-field dissipates
>Can feel that there's something wrong with my colon/intestines, like really insanely wrong with them
grim

>>84647320
>going to try some ket
Okay, pro tip for ketamine (and dissos in general), don't move around when it kicks in, just let it draw you in to it's wonderful world and you'll have a good experience
also, have a puke bucket ready if you had food in the last couple of hours.

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Aghhhh I love that lyrica makes me productive and all but the suicidal thoughts are really fucking with me rn.
You win some you lose some I guess.

>>84647320
.5g for a first time is a shit ton

I fucking can't with these stomach ulcers man I just end up tossing and turning the entire night away if I even feel tired in the first place. Thinking of doing some pregab to calm it down but I'm also worried that the pregab will knock me out. Gah this is fucking AIDS I just wanna sleep

>>84648414
Actually nah I'm gonna do acid instead, need to wait for my pregabalin tolerance to drop some more.

how the fuck do people get addicted to K? I just did a large done that was still sub K-hole and I feel horrible, threw up twice

The peak was kind of enjoyable, it's hard to describe but it felt like my perception had rotated along a 4th physical dimension, thus making everything feel and appear extremely distorted. I experienced such intense ego dissolution that i struggled to understand why dying or becoming homeless was a bad thing and was okay with the horrible thought that I might have gone into a psychotic delusional state, cool introspective experience but I have zero desire to go see what a full k-hole is like now.

>>84649381
full khole is comparable to a dmt trip but more enjoyable imo

>>84649427
hmmm okay, a full on alice in wonderland experience on K sounds interesting

for me, I just peaked at the point where my passive visual pattern recognition completely broke down, leading to the feeling that I was isolated from the physical world, but as soon as I'd try to look around or focus on something, I could sort of make out what was going on. I still knew where I was

The first high of the day is the best one. Nothing I can do to extend it or get it again, so I just have to wait until the next day all the while I lose my shit from stress and anxiety

Delta 8 weed is soon to be banned in the USA. Fellow illegal-state anons, how do you plan to procure your green?

>>84646986
good work anon, i'm trying to quit kratom while balancing it with work. absolute hell on earth couldn't do it without God. next to quit is vaping

>>84647055
ik that feel, back in the days before we had proper responsibilities. whast your job now?

Is telegram actually effective in finding plugs? I see a few accounts in my area but all I think about is honey pots and end up not messaging them.

>>84647320
ket is great, not really a party drug if you do a lot of it. if you k hole you will see a sprititual reality of the universe. very similar to the CIA's conclusions after Project Stargate.look it up and you'll see what i mean. never had any issues with bad trips.but if you do k hole try to think of and ask for Jesus, just see what happens. doesnt matter if ur athiest, just see what happens.

>>84650098
never used it, best thing is to ask uni students or people at the pub/ bar in the smoking area. just dont dress too fancy or too chavvy or theyll think youre a fed

>>84650098
no, if you are in this thread you order from onion markets and get the uncut stuff for a good price instead

>>84648173
i wish i could get lyrica, best thing for kratom/ opiate withdrawral

>>84650153
ONION MARKETS ONION MARKETS ARE NONE OF YOU RETARDS LISTENING?!?!?

>>84650127
I'm certain that if I asked for Allah I'd see him instead, same goes for Odin or Ishtar or Shiva or whatever the fuck

>>84650169
ordering shit in the mail sounds super fucking sketch. you've probably had good luck but is it really that good of an idea, that shit is addressed to you and goes through other people who can nab it and hand it to the police and then boom your house could get raided

>>84650304
NTA.
I'll keep it brief and simple.
It's the most deniable option.
Anyone can send you drugs.
If you deny you ordered them they won't do shit.

>>84650304
I personally have ordered around 100 times over 8 years and been completely fine. If said onion markets weren't actually useful do you think they would be around? If buying off the streets was genuinely a better option they would have died out real quick because the black markets is the purest form of the free market and only thing keeping people away from buying online is them being afraid and being scared of crypto being tracable thanks to kyc and shit Guess what I've been fine with kyc all these years and the vendors send their shit properly secured because you can leave reviews and if it turns out it is not hidden well enough to avoid the detection and you get caught you can leave a negative review over it?
I understand being scared over ordering to your real address (which ironically enough is safer than po boxes and shit) but as I said it is fine. Your house being raided? Then don't keep the drugs in your hours for the first few orders? Go and bury it in the forest or hide it somehow else and keep yourself "safe" until you can not be a retard and keep buying subpar product off the streets yeah?
Sorry for the crashout I'm drunk as shit and tired of hearing this same thing over and over again, this anon said it better: >>84650373

>>84650373
>>84650385
How do you buy your bitcoin / monero or whatever? Or do you just use your card?

>>84650410
Bitcoin ATM. It's generally recommended to clean your coins via a so-called mixer/tumbler service before use though if you swap from one currency to another (Solana or Litecoin have low fees and fast transfer times) it's already somewhat cleaned.
Most retard proof way would be to buy Litecoin/Solana with your card then swapping it to Monero in Cake Wallet.

>>84650410
Ever since onion markets changed into preferring monero I've done buy ltc(or other crypto, you need kyc anyway and you want to pick one with least transfer fees) -> change into xmr through services like changenow (->maybe have something inbetween for deniability) -> buy droogs
Ideally you want to eliminate any trace of you buying crypto but what I've done is the best you can here realistically
>>84650449
This is probably better unless you live in giga first world country like mine
The authorities would likely find out even if I did buy through cake wallet idk my way has worked so far

>>84646585
I've still never tried E but I need some friends who wouldn't mind a cuddle.

>>84650169
i can't, police have accused me of this crime before, but they had no evidence that i purchased it (because i didnt)

>>84650212
that might be true bro,
try it, see what happens.
compare and contrast with clear goals.

>>84649978
So true. Always the best

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>>84650449
>>84650485
Thanks for the advice, originally.

>>84647095
What shroom variety is best?

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>>84650385
To counterpoint: I've brought drugs irl meeting people off Facebook signal and irl (like actual meeting people in my city, buying up to pounds of weed and around 1.5k worth of MD, pills etc and, but don't get me wrong vast majority it's smaller amounts) and I have NEVER had an issue with cops. Literally not once. This is like over maybe 15 years now. Yes I got ripped maybe 3 or 4 times but that's just part of the game the one time I got in real trouble was when I got in over my head and tried to sell something I shouldn't have and got boxed in by two cars and stood of/robbed for it. That was scary. But looking back that was my own fault running my luck, being out of my depth, and basically I'd rather get robbed for then do 18month minimum if the cops got it. Shit was a fucking liability and I was glad it was gone. But man that situation was scary lol. Ahh to he young and naive again.

And then I brought 15gs of mdma off tor/alphabay and had 3 customs agents pull up to my house a few weeks later wanting an interview, wanting to see my phone etc. They're like we have you on record ordering mdma to this property we've intercepted your package bla bla bla. Basically just told them do you have a warrant for my arrest he said no. Then he's like can I come in for an interview? I told him anyone can send anyone anything and get the fuck off my property. They left. Nothing came from it. Scared me the FUCK off ever buying anything online. Holy shit that made me scared because in my country that's importation of class b for supply you're doing jail time.

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>>84652178
Now to add this was an overseas import and about my 3rd time doing it. I think my issue was my first two were from low risk countries (I'm south pacific and ordered from aus) but my mdma came from the Nederlands which probably why it got flagged by my first came from England which I guess is low risk so no issue. I ordered ice from Australia just a half g to try it, and got sent a fee gs of mdma from England. My country had close ties to both these countries so its low risk, but my border is one of the most effective in the world. My heart was in my fucking chest when those border securities came to my house man holy shit. I don't think they have arrest powers, but if you make any sort of admissions they can get a warrant and the cops will roll you, then you're fucked. And I knew a guy in aus where he tried to import coke, I think around 4-5 oz and the Australian federal police intercepted it, replaced the coke with fake shit tapped everyone's phones and made the controllerd delivery. He and his mate ended up with a 7 year jail sentence. And that was lenient because prosceutors started at an 18 year fucking sentence for him HOLY SHIT aus does NOT fuck around when it comes to importing drugs especially coke/meth. He's still in prison.

I ordered domestic off alphabay a few times and was never worried because it doesn't go through customs but that's the only time I'd ever do it. I'd never do it again though because the risk of scams, interceptions etc is simply just extreme.

And I don't care how tech savvy you think are unless you're like some ultra super nerd taking ALL precautions the forensic computer cops are extremely good at what they do. I was recently in prison on an unrelated charge and a guy in there was getting FUCKED because they accessed his signal somehow and could show his criminal enterprise where he was moving significant amounts of ketamine throughout my country. Forensic accounting fucked him too large innacounted revenue streams.

>>84652184
Want my advice? If you want drugs just buy them the old fashioned way -> ask around if anyone sells weed. Should be easy to find someone. Ask your weed dealer if he knows where to get anything else. Go from there. This way you basically avoid cops, traceability etc. It's all word of mouth type stuff. Look up your countries laws and they will have set amounts where regardless of intent if you possess over a certain quantity it's AUTOMATICALLY possession for supply. This is a FAR harsher sentence. Always keep your stash below. Don't drive with drugs in your car if you can avoid it. Don't discuss drugs blatantly through text. Ideally just call. Pay in cash always. Store your shit in a hidden place. Don't be a retard driving round high with roaches in your ashtray. Look into your countries drug driving laws and what they test for and how sensitive the tests are. In my country people are getting popped days later for thc in their system just from metabolites. Just don't be stupid you'll be fine. Number one thing that's gonna fuck you over is having your car reek of weed. Smelling weed = probable cause for a search = if you have drugs in the car it's getting found. And when you're pulled over be fucking normal, respectful, apologetic, don't be some "I know my rights loser". Hell recently I got let off a $320 speeding fine just cos the cop flashed his lights at me way off coming my way, I knew it was for me so just slowed down and stopped opposite him, got off, had my license, admitted I was speeding and it was stupid in a lower speed limit zone. Had all my rego and shit up to date which helped and he let me off with a warning. Just don't lie, own your mistakes, be reasonable, never be compatative or aggressive. Accept your punishment and move on. Any sort of aggression/being a prick/saying any sort of shit like "I know my rights" "you'll hear from my lawyer" bla bla is just gonna fuck you over.

>>84652325
Cops can just basically fuck you for anything. It's sad but if they want like 70% of cars they can just throughoubly go over and defect it off the road over nothing. Curbed tyre? Defect. Aged wipers? Defect. Etc etc. You fuck with them they fuck with you. Just accept your punishment be honest about it and be polite almost all the time it will go better than showing aggression/being combatative. Most cops actually want to deal with serious crimes like robbery, violence etc and traffic shit is just annoying to them. Just be polite.

Oh and by the way all that "police auditor" shit you see on TV and tiktok doesn't actually work irl. You say 'I don't consent to a search of my vehicle officer' do you think they're just going to go okay sir that's your right I'm leaving now have a good day! Fucking lol no that's when they say okay you're detained till we get the drug dog in which is just total bullshit then the owner says "he's indicating on the car" (bullshit) which is now probably cause so they search it anyway. And guess what even if they do an illegal search do you think it just gets tossed in court? No. You then spend literal thousands in lawyer fees tied up in the fucning courts trying to get it thrown out there will be hearings and appeals and testifying this shit just doesn't go away. Most of the time the judges side with cops and in the end even if you win. So what? You still lost the drugs they took, now you're down thousands in lawyer fees and stress, and what happens to the cop? Almost literally nothing. At most maybe some extra training. If by some miracle he's fired, next week he's employed in the next county. There's no winning. Just try make it as painless for yourself as possible. Be honest, be polite. Don't drive round with fucking 10 years in your fucking boot like an idiot. Don't sell weed because the smell is probable cause. Don't get smart to cops.

This is my advice I've brought and sold drugs off and on like I say for 15 years now.

>>84652178
>15gs of mdma off tor/alphabay and had 3 customs agents
domestic or international?

>>84648559
This is hell. I can't sleep, all I do is toss and turn and worry about uni and any semblance of a future I might have left. I noticed it a few hours ago but I was experiencing terrible vertigo. I can barely eat and I fucking hate doing so already. I think I'm going to go take some pregabalin, try to eat some more and wash my sheets. It's almost fucking 2 am and I will either sleep a couple of hours or until wednesday.

>>84653328
acid is so fucking ass lmao
imagine taking a psychedelic that makes you unbearably sensitive to emotional and physical distress AND also induces insomnia so you end up feeling like shit unless you combine it with depressants

>>84653770
The acid trip was rather comfy. None of the issues I described were from the LSD, they were from a protracted issue with my stomach. The acid is nice because it eases up on my stomach pain. It's a lot easier dealing with things when you aren't barely conscious

>sold my crypto to buy a bunch of legal goods instead
>they're stuck in transit
Say yes to drugs, kids.

>>84652178
>importation
you ordered non domestic, no shit you got caught

>>84654144
What did you buy? I'm thinking of buying a "the handy" to increase pleasure while using drugs

Running out of my Tramadol stash and don't think I'm gonna buy more.
Tolerance has been getting really high and at 400-600mg range it becomes really expensive to keep doing it daily and the SNRI effects can get noticeably unpleasant.
But in general, 1.5 months I've been doing it have been fucking amazing. Man, why can't I be like that sober? I tried a lot of stuff during my sober years but I never got to being this functional, productive and happy. Fuck my brain, man.
What I have left I'll use to make the withdrawals less torturous I guess. At least I was able to finish my work stuff for some time so I can suffer this week without being bothered too much.

>>84654684
Some clothes and wireless earbuds.

>>84655018
>I tried a lot of stuff during my sober years but I never got to being this functional, productive and happy.
This is why I'm terrified of recreational opioid use. Never gonna touch that shit. The one time I was prescribed opioids was during a wisdom tooth surgery, and they gave me tramadol. Sadly I was on Wellbutrin as well as Fluoxetine which completely inhibit its metabolism. I specifically requested no morphine prodrugs but they didn't care. Lucky me I guess

>>84655162
I didn't try Tramadol until recently, so it's not like I was missing opioids during my sober years. I'm just kinda comparing my usual life experience to this. I had good moments during my sober years, but generally I'm an anxious wreck.
To be honest, I'm not much of a fan of the "sleepy" opioid effects. Might be the case that I'd actually do well with antidepressants (Tramadol is SNRI+Opioid), but getting a good therapist who'd be willing to prescribe something that isn't useless garbage is nearly impossible in my hellish shithole of a country.

https://youtube.com/shorts/oZEivOBQ6nc

On a tiny bit of shrooms.
Finally some peace

When I smoke salvia, I turn into animals and plants but never people or machines or other man-made objects.

salvia is fucking wild to me, from what I've read it's literally more hallucinogenic than DMT, totally legal and has no adverse health effects, yet nobody but the most insane psychonauts dare to touch it because of how intense it is

AND EVEN THEY only use it a dozen or so before going back to standards hallucinogens for the rest of their lives

Never taken any drugs, am curious about shrooms. Should I?

>>84645845
Discord bans those types of chats.
https://t.me/+5emO8bk1mRA1ODFh

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>five hours to go before liquor stores open

Oh my fucking Godddd pleaseeee hurry upppppp I don't want to feel anythingggg

>>84656080
Get yeast, a airlock, and some juice. Brew gallons and gallons of wine.

>>84655985
why not

worse that can happen is you have a bad trip and go to hellworld, where you are brutally tormented by your deepest fears for several hours, but afterwards you'll look back and think "wow, that really wasn't as bad as I thought it'd be"

>>84656119
Wrong. You could kill yourself or someone else from being fried by the drugs.

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Can I talk about coffee/caffeine here?

>up at 10pm last night
>really needed to get an early night for work
>can't get to sleep because my caffeine headache was so bad
>desperate for a coffee + want to test out my new coffee machine frother extension that just arrived a few hours ago
>brew a cappuccino
>remember the time my italian coworker called me a retard for drinking cappuccinos after breakfast
>don't get to sleep till 2am
>wake up at 8am in a puddle of my own sweat (it's hot)
>really smelly but go downstairs to make coffee first
>see qt housemate in communal kitchen
>she looks at me like I'm a gross incel because I haven't even had a shower
>try talking to her but can only think about the latest James Hoffman video I saw
>end up missing my bus because I spent 10 minutes filling up my with flask with espresso shots

I genuinely think I need help atp...

>>84656177
Caffeine is a drug so yes.
Though by god you're becoming one of Those people.

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>>84648104
Thanks anon I remembered to keep a bucket handy. Haven't need it and just did some bumps to get an idea of what it is like. Music sounds almost as good as it did on E

>>84648190
It seems like a lot, only used a little bit and I very much feel it. I can see why it was given as a sample

>>84650127
I've never been to a [arty so I'll try to dose a higher amount later. If I see Jesus I'll send him your regards

I took a benzo for the first time since october 2024, 1mg of clonazepam. (I was an infrequent user between 2022-2024).

It's extremely subtle to be honest. No euphoria. That works for me since im taking it for actual anxiety/panic relief from debilitating health issues. But I wonder what I'm missing when I see people describing benzos as euphoric

>>84656872
that's interesting, when i first did ket music did not sound very good to me and i specifically noted that. it's better now and the drug has grown on me in general but i still wouldn't say that music sounds "super way better than normal" while on ket.
how much did you take? only some people need to vomit on it apparently. i only ever do it when i'm getting hungry, otherwise the nausea gets really bad and it feels horrible.

greetings from austria to the big stein you dirty jew
I've had some beers and some benzos, downers are my favorite type of drug

>>84656177
I got a 20 bar espresso machine. It's a robust coffee

>>84648104
>>84656872
You use ketamine to pretend to be mean.

Only beans and people with small peens use ketamine.

Jackasssayimean

>>84657130
>>84657141
huhh???? what the fuck are you talkin about

>>84650169
Daunt.link
Tor.taxi

>>84657065
Guten Abend der Herr, hab mir grad Pilz eingeworfen.

>>84657180
Im surprised you don't know! Really?
You'll find out!

>>84655229
Are you saying you'd find it difficult to get SNRIs? That's unlikely. They're basically first-line medications. The harder shit to get is like TCAs, MAOIs, etc

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caffeine+benzo+weed+caffeome

I'm feeling it right now..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd4srMN02FA

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Na na na nana naaaaa (aaa)nananana nana nanananana naaaaa nananananana naan nana nana naanaaaaa (aaaa) nana nana nanaaaaaa nana nanna an naaaanaaaahhh(aaaaaaaaaaaah)

https://youtu.be/MQoC2xNcd9E?si=KUPXkRQbY69HxcM0

gteing smore blisters tomrow OH fuck momys gota Day off uu

>>84657223
i really don't know what you're even saying or why

>>84657398
Use context clues anonette. I believe in you

>>84657141
this is true ime

any drugs help with weight loss?

>>84656872
Next time you do ket i recommend boofing, it completely avoids the issues of nasal drip. You should also wait a week or two before doing ket again to reset your tolerance.
I have a small 5ml syringe I got for free by asking my pharmacy for one for my "cat". Gotta administer that vetalar somehow :^)

>>84658379
GLP agonists are the obvious choice, but I went down to 15 BMI on fluoxetine and bupropion. If you really wanna lose weight you could also add in a proper amphetamine like speed or pressed adderall.

>>84645377
https://youtu.be/NwtNjvsxnCA?t=325

>>84658786
Lmfao, that's so true.

>>84655018
You're gonna be in hell bro honestly. I found tramadol withdrawals to be absolutely brutal

How bad is benzo withdrawal in reality?

Let's say someone takes it for 6 months to a year during a stressful period, then spends at least half that time responsibly tapering down, with increments of 0.1mg if needed.

Is is really that bad? Or are the horror stories just from people going cold Turkey, rapid tapers, whatever bullshit Jordan Peterson did which led to brain damage, etc.

>>84655958
>intense

No it's more like cos it's fucking horrible lol. It's literally deeply unpleasant, makes you sweat like crazy, feel like you're on a skipping cd Rollercoaster, and then you just get blasted into this nonsensical bizzare hellscape and then 15mins it's over. There's no joy, no takeaway, no lesson. It's basically just like "what the fuck that was absolutely horrible".

>>84659466
Depends on everyone but it's horrible and the idea that you can just taper down super slowly and painlessly with no consqeucnes is a joke. Each dose of benzos does you damage, and each continous dose ups your tolerance.

So if I take 1mg everyday for 4 weeks, my 4 week dose is not the same as my 1st week dose. By then my body is adapted and I'm basically just ingesting exogenous benzos to replace the ones my body stopped making (to put it simply). And so then if I just go oh it's easy I'll just reduce the dose then really slowly. Doesn't work because you are CONTINOUSLY taking the benzo and therefore your tolerance is INCREASING even though the dose is lowering.

So you take a 1mg for a year. Then .98 mg then .9 then .85 etc. Whole time you're just poisoning your body, not getting the benzo effect, then dragging out the withdrawals.

And the thing is the worst part is when you finally jump off to 0 anyway. It's kind of like alcoholics. Does it make sense to taper alcohol? From a 24 pack to 23 to 22 to etc? Unless you're literally going to die your best bet is to just stop, suffer the withdrawals for a week and be done with it. Dragging it out just continues the addiction, with all the health consequences.

>>84659511
>Unless you're literally going to die your best bet is to just stop
Hi retard GABA withdrawals especially benzos will cause all sorts of very dangerous side effects if you don't taper. I remember being stubborn and going cold turkey on kpins and had a grand mal seizure within the week.

Day 7 of the 2 day bender I'm gonna take some edibles and watch shitty movies

>>84659549
>>84659511
>>84659466
all 3 times i tried to cold turkey 1mg/day klonopin i had a seizure on the 5-7th day afterward. i eventually accepted having to do a long, slow taper. the post-acute withdrawal syndrome sucks too, and it goes on forever. though JBP should be out of the range of post-acute withdrawal syndrome, so idk what's up with him.

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>>84645845
my first experience was intense because i didnt know at all what to expect
i was freaking out non verbal paranoid in a library and didnt know how long id be like that
looking back the experience was fun, but idk if i could or would even want to go through that again

>>84656984
there is no euphoria. the people who describe euphoria are using the word incorrectly. they think being relaxed = euphoria.

>>84648104
fuck u nigga i like taking PCP/PCE analogs and dancing for 6 hours

>>84648104
only ketamine, descholorketamine (O-PCM), and 2F-DCK make me nauseated. MXE and 3-MeO-PCP are powerful SSRIs, but they never made me even a little nauseous. there is some kind of unique problem with O-PCM and its analogs that induces nausea after the primary wave of effects wear off. the nausea always hits at the exact same time in the dose-response.

>>84659968
i remember my first time getting high, it was so fucking fun. my friend said to go for 20mg edibles instead of 10 lol so i greened out pretty hard. i went to the university cafeteria and stole a bunch of cookies since he was visiting and couldnt go in
i couldnt stop laughing at everything we did, it was so hard to keep a serious face. good fucking times

>>84660017
20mg on day 0 mustve been insane lmao
did you get any anxiety at all?
the biggest stoner i know quit recently since he also said it gave him anxiety and now im wondering if everybody just deals with it and gets high anyway

>>84660081
it gives you anxiety under certain circumstances. i never got anxiety from weed until i had a bad trip on 25i-NBOMe, completely unrelated to weed. it took me 9 months to be able to use weed again without an immediate panic attack. now, i only panic from weed if i'm under the influence of other drugs and get overwhelmed. i also find that when you're addicted to THC, it doesn't feel the same--like it feels so different compared to how opioids still feel the same and just get weaker as you get more dependent.

>Drug thread

Get the fuck off my planet faggots. You make Kensington look like a dark souls post apocalypse alley.

Your limbs are literally swollen and rotting and you stink like shit in your own feces.

God I fucking hate junkies

>>84660226
i hope you dont drink

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My personal experience with different drugs
>NMDA antagonists (dxm or k)
Used to be my favorite, numb and immune to physical pain and insecurities, genres like EDM ambient or vocaloid sound amazing, and do random shit and have fun talking to ppl but nowadays it makes me forget who I used to be (forgetting your ego and traumas is ackshually a bad thing), contemplate if I'm a bad person based on what others think and sperg out about prison planet demiurge and being trapped in a meat prison.
>Weed
Numbs you but makes you stupid and looksmins you, and can make you more schizo/autistic if you aren't careful
>Nicotine
Looksmins you, dehydrates and high-cortisolmaxxes you
>D2 antagonist antipsychotics (Abilify, Risperidone, etc)
Makes you stupid, fat, shaky, don't care about anything, want to do nothing but sleep
>SSRIs (Zoloft, Prozac etc)
Made me anxious as fuck and heart wouldn't stop racing, causes vasoconstriction. Might make ur pp not work but I still gooned on it.
>Benzos (xanax phenibut ativan etc)
Worry about nothing, sleep just fine, had fun with everything, want to cuddle random ppl but when it goes away you want to die.
>5ht2a agonist (Psilocybin LSD etc)
Will make you confront your trauma and insecurity, and can change your persona for either better or worse or maybe just be a fun trip watching movies or listening to songs
>Caffeine
Coffee and Monsters are a meme, gave me the illusion of being more productive, but dehydrates u, can make you look better or worse depends, makes u piss out nutrients, get anxious as fuck
>Benadryl and Doxylamine
Dementiamaxxes you, see hellish apparitions and visions, feel bugs inside your skin, maybe flatline and wake up in the ER, feel like you're the only human on Earth and you're dying and no one is coming to save you.

>>84660081
I got some anxiety but that was mainly from worrying that someone might notice i was high
I still do get some anxiety when I get a bit too high, it usually makes my anxiety about everything somewhat worse to really bad depending on how much I underestimate the dose but I have prescription Ativan for panic attacks anyways so its not really an issue.
Benzos and weed are really comfy if you get the doses for both just right

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>>84660226
shut up fag nobody cares about your gay opinions

>>84660226
Go back to r/straightedge faggot

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>>84660226
You're awfully mean, I'd never thought I'd become an addict but here I am, wasting my hard earned cash on more pointless speciality beans instead of saving up. It just sneaks up on you and suddenly you're too deep to return normal life, even if you quit, you can never go back in time, the rubicon can't be uncrossed. All it takes is one moment of weakness and you're back to square one.

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I swear I would rail meth till i died if the comedown didn't make me psychotic

>>84661522
i'm thinking of getting some meth for the first time as an alternative to adderall/vyvanse, but i've never done it before. i plan to buy dexmeth from the darknet so i know it's 100% dexmeth instead of 50/50 R/S racemic meth.

how do you deal with the long half-life without benzos? amphetamine already has a 10 hour half life. meth has a 13 hour half life. it would be so much more useful if it were 4-8 hours like a lot of the cathinones and other RC stims.

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>>84660405
>Benzos and weed are really comfy if you get the doses for both just right
damn i just hit this state with klonopin and am now extremely comfy

>>84646986
drop a tab of acid. psychedelics often do wonders for kicking habits.

>>84660352
not done any stims?

>>84661546
>i'm thinking of getting some meth for the first time as an alternative to adderall/vyvanse
why

Had a dream I gave my gf LSD at the same time as a benzo. The benzo was to counter the LSD, but I gave her 200ug instead of 100ug, to counter the benzo.

>>84662186
i don't wanna hear about your gf
why do you even need drugs if you have a gf

lyrica-chan (also know as pregabalin) is my gf

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I don't mix weed with benzos anymore, it fucks up my tolerance too much.
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=F4pytnrA7wI

Nevermind, took 3mg alprazolam with 60mg extract gummies but tommorow i'm staying sober.
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=jhQ4WVJwz7w

Any info is appreciated, I am going to see a doctor soon for this. Going to be a blogpost. I been doing gabapentin for over a year now. Kratom for a few years now. Odsmt I've only been doing for about 6 months. So I use the restroom. Bowl movement happens and I sweat real bad. Then about a half hour after, and about every 2 hours. I will puke, eventually its just dry heaving. Waves of nausea come and go. These epsiodes last 2-4 days. And seem to be triggered when I have drank booze and also stress is a trigger as well. This happens every one to two months. Not sure what to do but this is not a way to live

>>84662478
lyrica chan is my abusive ex, a bpdemon

>>84663406
Sounds like you're dying bro

>>84662465
i wasn't taking drugs, i was administering them.
and it was a dream anyway. pay attention!

>>84663761
that new movie, obsession, is just BPDemon simulator

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My vape carts arrived today. Now that it is summer I have the urge to do dxm in the park like my lonely teenage self used to

>>84657004
I just kept doing bumps of it all night, when the next lot comes I'll do a bit more at once to get a more dissociative experience. Overall it was just a pleasant relaxing headspace

>>84658514
The nasal drip was pretty annoying though I'm used to it from other stuff. I might pass on boofing but wait a little bit before next using

How do people get high on pregabalin? I take 150mg after breakfast every day for a pain I have and it just makes me feel tired, flushed and makes my fingertips twitchy. Not to mention it hasn't touched my pain after a month. If I take more should I expect more of these shitty side effects or would a better high override them?
>>84663406
I feel for you. I've had bowel and intense stress issues since last year. I did see a doctor, got a colonoscopy and all and I'm good but it's like my brain still keeps creating new pain pathways because of the stress and panic I had. A lot of my early symptoms went away after seeing the doctor so I hope you can see one soon

>>84664483
>my brain still keeps creating new pain pathways
uwot

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>>84664483
I'm currently on 1200mg lmao. This is about as high as you should even go, any more is a waste imo. Yes it's a high dose but I wanted to be high as fuck and that's what I got.
I never really got any negative side effects and at least for me pregab has a weird effects where I have more energy and become very productive but if I lie down I feel tired in a comfy way. Also I sleep very well on this stuff which is blessing because I have pretty severe insomnia.
Maybe try 300mg or even 600mg and see what happens? Also taking pregab after food reduces the peak a lot. You might also have some tolerance if you have been taking it every day.

>>84664305
you did all 0.5g?
100mg in one night is already a lot for me even with tolerance, i have no idea how people can take so much

Quick and ez guide on how to half your IQ:
Step 1: Abuse marijuana until your capacity to think gets nerfed
Step 2: Drink a lot of alcohol the day before you want to half your IQ
Step 3: Get very little/no sleep
If you did all steps correctly you should barely be able to remember things/think.

>>84657311

actual heavenly music + god tier aesthetics, didn't know about trinity blood until today
thank you anon

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>tfw gonna do mdma twice over the next day

>>84665258
why would you do that
unless you mean a slight redose 2 hours into it

i'm OUT of DRUGS
feel like if i want to get more, this is the time it will go sour

Can you get the peak rush of nicotine more than once a day? I've tried with cigarettes, vapes and pounches and the limit was always one rush per day.

>>84665302
I'm gonna take 100mg then 4 hours later take 200mg oral

>>84665430
i'm not an expert but that sounds counterproductive
like i heard you want your initial dose to be the main one and then just give it a bump later on

>getting headaches after 15 hours of not taking percocet

I never should have started taking these, fucking spawn of the devil.

>>84654684
handy = fleshlight?

>>84666188
It's a machine that gives you "handjobs" using an onahole. It has a desk mount and vr support and the sequel device has synchronization software so you can get immersed. Getting high and trapping myself in a sex simulator

damn i need to piss so bad how did i get reverse of ketamine bladder

>>84663406
>gamapentin
>kratom
>odsmt
>alcohol

Doc??? Why do I feel so BADDD????

Any doctor with half a brain will just tell you stop all that shit and see if it persists. If it doesn't persist hey presto you're solved. If it does persist hey Orestes bow yourr not a drug addict (probably dying of cancer tho my condolences).

My personal ratings of drugs:

>nicotine
Cringe drug for teenagers (vapes, those weird mouth things, etc). Smoking is ONLY acceptable if it is an expensive brand (and if you live in a cucked county like me where the labels are all hideous deformities, this is automatically uncool. You need to find imported Marlboros or equivalent, and then it is ONLY cool if you do it once or twice a month, maybe after a few drinks. That's it, any other situation you're a gay fagglt and the one exception just makes you a pretentious gay fagggot. Don't even get me started on cigars.

>alcohol
Toxic poison for the poor

>pregabalin
It's good, but good in a way where it's cringe because it makes your social autism and allows you to perform better socially. So if you weren't a gau fucking loser, you wouldn't take this drug

>opiates
Allow yourself 5 times in your entire life to take them. Don't right. Start with pod or seed tea then do oxy heroin and hydromorphone. Only do each one once, enjoy it, then move on in life ticking it off. LOL next minute tour fentfolded in the gutter

>coke Stims etc
Tweaker white trash bullshit. And I wish whites would stop gentrfying coke. The only acceptable way for a white man to use coke is to smoke crack. For equality.

>psychedelics

Cringe and retarded. Omg pretty colors let's all stop killing each other!!! Then the next morning it's like we'll half of you owe me for the trip, and the petrol, and wr solved nothing just ingested poison and thought out blurry vision was profound

>all other bullshit drugs
For nerds and queers

Only acceptable drug to use is zopiclone. My queen.

>>84646986
Doing enough ketamine to k-hole actually worked miraculously well for my stimulant addiction. I had been two months clean from meth and still felt a terrible amount of fatigue and cravings but once I k-holed it was like my brain fully reset and I suddenly felt just like I was before my stimulant use and abuse and totally free of cravings, maybe even better.

>>84666622
thoughts on deliriants?

>>84663406
dude what are you doing thinking you need to go see a doctor. when i was addicted to opioids and weed i had all sorts of digestive hell and threw up at least a few times a month, usually upon waking up in withdrawals and taking my first dose to get out of opioid withdrawals.

>>84666622
zopiclone isn't even as good as zolpidem you faggoid

>>84646986
never, ever do psychedelics while in withdrawal from some other drug. the best drugs to use for withdrawals are dissociatives. they work for every kind of withdrawal and are awesome. the only problem is they block you from sleeping, so you still have to let them wear off to sleep.

drank 200ml whiskey and vomited now i'm going to play videogames what are you guys up to

Did vyvanse too late like an idiot and stayed up all night, should i take another 70mg just to get through today and then sleep tonight and take a big break?

>>84667601
i'd recommend trying to get through the day on half that. if you take too much again and stay up way late into the night it'll still create problems for your schedule. i have this problem a lot because of the annoyingly long half life of amphetamines

>>84667672
Ok ok, I do have the day off at least and it's early enough that it should wear off late evening. Don't start work til 4pm tomorrow at least so hopefully manage to smash out 12 hours sleep or something

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I will soon begin reducing my valproate dose. I was previously taking 500mg of sodium divalproate, but starting today I will begin taking 500mg of valproic acid for a few days, then reduce the dose to 250mg, and finally stop taking it completely.
I hope I don't have any seizures during the process.

I think I am pretty much over my kratom addiction chat. Im down to only 1 gram a day

>edibles kicked in so hard i forgot that i ordered mcdonalds
>go out to pick it up 6 hours later and someone took it
damn thats actually 40 leafbucks gone im pissed at myself

>>84668792
good job. i had to quit opioids cold turkey from a 100mg+ oxycodone per day equivalent and give myself PTSD so badly that i never wanted to do them again.

>>84668798
That's brutal dude. I think food delivery apps are a scam but I got a McDonald's across the street.

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Today I yelled at my brother for buying BF6 on my credit card when in fact he didn't buy it, I gifted him last thursday while high on klonopin and totally forgot about it

>>84668825
Yeah Im glad I never tired real ones because I would have liked them too much. I am sick of it tho

>>84668835
Yeah I sadly don't have any restaurants nearby probably the worst part is that this was the first time ive ordered any food delivery in over a month

What's a good drug to take daily?

>>84669129
I would get by with weed gummies daily

>>84664523
what do you think about gabapentin?

>>84667210
>>84666753
>>84661833
>>84650048
thanks a lot for the advice anons
I took some ketamine, not enough for a k hole but still a pretty big dose, that seems to have completely eradicated my cravings and now I can focus pretty well again

K is honestly god tier medicine, both for the body and the mind <3

>>84667210
yeah, I thought taking shrooms while suffering withdrawals might be brutal, hence why I made that post instead of just doing it. Your advice was sound.

>>84667210
>never, ever do psychedelics while in withdrawal from some other drug
what happens if you do?

>>84669237
I slightly prefer pregab over it but I just love gabapentinoids in general. Only issue with it is the bioavailability thing and having to stagger doses to achieve the max absorption which means the peak won't be nothing like compared to pregab.
>>84669129
Just do polyaddiction. That's the best way, otherwise you will inevitably get tolerance to whatever you're taking daily.

>>84666622
>nicotine
agree, trash, F tier, no reason to take whatsoever, I literally started vaping in college thinking I'd make it easier to stay lean and focus and it had the opposite effect because I just ended up feeling shaky and craving more nicotine constantly, nicotine withdrawals show up so quickly that you literally end up in a constant state of stress/anxiety unless you're dosing nicotine constantly, at which point your natural emotions become completely blunted.

>alcohol
disagree, a drink or two is a great social lubricant, between strangers and between close friends. Drinking at home alone is trash though yeah

>pregabalin
agree but it's more of a chill out and relax at home kind of drug imo

>opiates
agree Just don't even it once imo, jfc i'm so lucky I'm one of those rare retards who doesn't get euphoria from opiates or otherwise I'd be a fent zombie too right now

>stims
stims feel fucking amazing, but yeah they're genuinely life ruining, especially since you can appear sober whilst on them as long as you don't talk too much (very hard not to do on stims lmao) after a while my brain just started rejected stims and I now I come down extremely quickly and crash super hard.

>psychedelics
agree that hippies and schizos are completely retarded
but they can be useful for speeding along introspection
also they can be pretty enjoyable too
honestly psychedelics are the defacto "I'm on drugs!" experience, everyone should try them a couple of times.

>benzos
trash, I keep them around as emergency medicine, but I absolutely resent using them because they make me feel so braindead unless I take a dose high enough that I also stop caring about feeling braindead.

>dissos
ket is great, it's like the hallucinogenic equivalent of alcohol, at low doses you just feel kind of relaxed and smoothed out, high doses are full on trips that are very easy to manage but still fascinating
dunno about other dissos though

>empathogens
never tried because I'm a loser

>>84669129
Weed with a dry herb vaporizer
It's a very cheap habit once you get past the initial costs, even heavy use is affordable and I'm unemployed with no NEETbux.

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>>84666622
>>84669363
>nicotine
Agree with the other 2 anons, easily the most retarded habit, fleeting high that you stop feeling completely once addicted, It's an F tier drug you'd only do as a teenager.
>alcohol
As the second anon said, great social lubricant (on par with pregabalin in my opinion) and it has the added benefit of being commonly available, that's where the upsides end because diminishing returns creep up fast with this drug and it also has the added downside of giving you a hangover the next day, E tier.
>weed
Very comfy reward drug, the biggest downside is that chronic use makes you painfully stupid, but I like it nontheless, B tier.
>pregabalin
It's alcohol but better in every way because you're not just performing better socially, you're willing to bust your ass too, I consider this drug a true anti-depressant and I won't hold back on giving it the S tier.
>opiates
If you're only using it for (physical) pain relief, S tier, If you discovered they don't just alleviate physical pain, F tier because you can't stay the fuck off until you've looted your entire medicine cabinet.
>Stims
haven't tried and never will, therefore I can't rank them fairly.
>psychedelics
A double edged sword that can make you feel the best you've ever felt, but can also equally make you feel like you're dying and in purgatory, if you know how to navigate the highs on these they're an S tier drug, but depending on how busy you are and depending on if you live alone or not, you might barely ever get the time/proper setting to actually do these, A tier.
>benzos
I don't feel anything recreational from them so I strictly use them for their practical purposes like easing anxiety or sleeping, D tier.
>dissos
Like psychedelics but instead of having to navigate a trip, you just lie down and let it consume you instead, S tier.
>empathogens
haven't tried, though I wouldn't be against trying them either, also can't rank fairly.

>>84669363
I feel like I'm the middle part of what you wrote about stims, I can literally do them on a work night, not sleep and then still go to work the next day by slightly redosing some 5mg Dexies but I can feel my brain slowly cracking with every all nighter I'm pulling. The most annoying thing is in order to stop I just have to stop drinking because I get literally 0 stimulant cravings when I'm sober but as soon as I start having a few drinks my mind just gives up and goes to the pill bottle

>>84669331
it'll either be an underwhelming experience compared to what it could have been, or depending on your condition, it can be an actual nightmare (as bad or worse than an ordinary bad trip).

taking psychedelics in weed withdrawal causes unusual muscle tension, a "dark" sensation to the trip, it's even harder to focus, less euphoria, and far more nausea and greater risk of vomiting. a lot more sweating too.

all the symptoms of opioid withdrawal become far more extreme. it's excrutiating. when tripping i had to stay well out of withdrawals to enjoy it. as soon as i started falling back towards withdrawals the trip would immediately become a bad trip until i redosed. i also got a ton of stomach pain.

benzo withdrawal + psychedelics dramatically intensifies all seizure-like activity, muscle tics and jerks. but beyond that, it also makes your eyes go utterly crazy. shaking violently to the point where you literally cannot hold them on one point because the muscles will force your eyes to jerk away practically every second, almost like nystagmus, but it's not nystagmus. i'm pretty sure pushing this even a little bit would result in full grand mal seizures.

stim withdrawal will just result in a generally underwhelming and tiring trip, but it's not too painful or scary compared to the others. stim withdrawal makes me feel like i can't do anything and taking a psychedelic doesn't really give the energy back. and SSRI withdrawal causes anxiety and a different kind of "dark" sensation to come over the trip. it also reduces the euphoria considerably and makes me feel sadder than it normally would. normally SSRI withdrawal just makes me feel flat rather than anxious or sad.

>>84669129
you have to rotate. the only other option is stimulants (responsibly only). even just using THC once each night will result in tolerance/addiction/withdrawal, because a 3-4 hour half life means you're still spending most of the 24 hour cycle above baseline, so receptors downregulate.

>>84670130
i forgot to mention: if you take psychedelics while in weed, benzo, opioid, or stimulant withdrawal, ALL 4 of these withdrawals + psychedelics will force you to yawn over and over and over. it's super weird. without psychedelics, opioids are the only ones that do that, and to a lesser extent, weed and stim withdrawals will also make you yawn an unusual amount.

but this is totally crazy. like i couldn't keep the water out of my eyes when i was in deep THC withdrawal and tripping.

I'm high ASF at my uncle's lmfao.

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This day isn't going to be an easy one isn't it?
Anyone else feel like they're clocking into a 16 hour shift of being alive as themselves every morning?

>>84670542
yeah and i hope i don't wake up tomorrow every night unless i have my drugs
i'm sober for most of the month regardless

>>84670542
it only feels like that if i've gotta go through some kind of withdrawals. if i don't then it's fine.

Lexapro withdrawal sucks, it's like there's a void in my chest

>>84670863
Lexapro is fun tho

don't even have alcohol
bored out of my mind
bitch stopped talking again

I'm liking ket too much now it's no good at all, but running out soon. i should not get me some more of it for the sake of my health and addiction but the temptation is great

>>84671128
>Lexapro is fun tho
How so? Is it even recreational?

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>>84664683
I did it all over like 8 hours, just little bumps. Got some more coming so I can get the "real" experience. At one point I think I went to an arcade so at least I had a good time

>>84671262
some people like SSRIs. some don't. it's just like how different people prefer different recreational drugs. some weirdos even like deliriants. but SSRIs are just the methylphenidate XR to MDMA's amphetamine so it's not surprising a lot of people like them.

sertraline is better than citalopram though.

>>84664683
it's ketamine. it's very easy to do a half or whole gram if you're doing it for hours on end. it's very short acting. if you can't handle more than 100mg in a whole night there's something unusual going on.

>>84671541
But I mean, can you get high on escitalopram? I took it for around a year so taking tolerance into account, can ya?

>>84671553
i'm the anon who gets intense nausea from it

>>84670542
4 people tried to ram their vehicles into me independently on my way to and from the grocery store. Today is dangerous so far. If I weren't aware, I would've been in accidents 4x over

oh boy here it goes again
existence revolves around pussy
all humankind is driven by it
it is the most underlying force of life
men and women getting together is the entire point of life
and i am not part of it
i am not alive

>>84672334
what are you talking about? what are you on?

>>84672379
>what are you on?
k
>what are you talking about?
isn't it clear?

BUMP?
it's thursday, it's when you get high because you can't wait till friday

>>84673913
I'm going to get pregabalin

>>84674392
at the pharmacy? out for a little stroll?

>>84674641
yeah at the pharmacy, it's otc here

>>84672334
nu-existence is hedonism until you die
theres no risk of humanity ever dying out, so your only purpose as an individual now is to enjoy your time
go buy a bitch for a night, youll realize women are not the end all be all you think it is

>>84674813
you enjoy your time by doing that which brings most joy
love brings the most joy
love is about a man and a woman

Anyone know how long ADHD med withdrawal lasts. Usual dose is 36mg of concerta but ended up on 144. Its been 2 weeks and all I can do is sleep and binge eat. Put in 10lbs so far

>>84675404
it only lasts a few days, and after 2 weeks you're 100% out of cannabinoid, stimulant, opioid, SSRI, etc withdrawal. the only withdrawal that lasts forever is GABA withdrawals.

you just forgot what your actual baseline is because you're so used to abnormal stimulation.

>>84675404
Don't eat.
Just drink sugar free isotonic drinks.
The hunger will sharpen your brain.

>>84675793
glucose is the conjugate molecule our neurons use to deactivate glutamate in excitatory synapses. low blood sugar results in less available glucose in the synapse and the reaction rate slows down, causing symptoms similar to the sensitivity some people show to monosodium glutamate.

hunger always causes brain fog. it is mechanically unavoidable, because it induces signal firing that wasn't supposed to happen, which is why people often get hand tremors from low blood sugar.

>>84675404
i've been taking only about 72mg daily recently and i'm only sleeping a few hours a day. you're way overdoing it and wasting it. might as well just get meth if you're gonna be silly about it.

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>>84663406 here
I stopped smoking cannabis (daily user for years). The carts and dabs I need to stop if I do have pic related. Used ketamine today to dissociate from the pain and it worked! It does feel like mania mixed with thinking you will die puking during a episode of this shit. Seems like past 5 years or so hospitals been seeing a influx of these cases since weed has gotten so potent, and don't get me started on cannabanoid analogs

>>84675404
The acute withdrawal stage is over in 2-3 weeks, but you can experience post-acute withdrawal syndrome beyond that point, which can last a few months or longer depending on how long you were medicated.

>>84675850
The body creates glucose using gluconeogenesis. The levels you're describing are only attainable by hormonal fuckery, such as type 1 diabetes or side-effects of drugs or poisons.
Silly

>>84675857
Are you sure? LoI

>>84675340
Eating brings me happiness

>>84676040
i don't understand this. why don't they just call it "cannabinoid withdrawal" because that's what it is. there's no such thing as this syndrome. it's just cannabinoid withdrawal's obvious consequences since cannabinoids make you hungry and block nausea, so naturally the withdrawals cause the opposite effects.

>>84676228
post acute withdrawal syndrome from benzos is measurable. you can observe the abnormal muscle behavior. there is no other kind of PAWS. anyone claiming to have it from other drugs is experiencing a psychosomatic reaction or doesn't understand their own senses.

>>84676242
that's not true at all. i've done extensive testing on this. just because diabetics incur a severe, life-threatening reaction doesn't mean ordinary people don't experience these effects.

additionally, even the wikipedia page for excitotoxicity says you need to immediately get people out of low blood sugar if they're experiencing excitotoxicity in order to prevent neuron damage, which makes stimulants extra bad about it because they suppress appetite. people don't eat and then their glutamate receptors get overstimulated due to the lack of glucose conjugation, and over time this makes stimulants far more damaging than they would be if you made sure your blood sugar never got low.

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>>84676040
THCP has a 2-3 day half-life and it's 33x as strong as d9-THC. i got all the way up to a 50-75mg/day addiction to vaping THCP from mellow fellow (it's cheap at least), and the withdrawals were utterly astonishing since i was essentially consuming the equivalent of like 5g+ of pure d9-THC daily.

it took weeks of tapering because the intensity of quitting cold turkey would make you feel like you couldn't breath fast enough and i couldn't stop the hyperventilation (which only made the severe anxiety and physical symptoms harder to deal with). i lost 20 pounds over a month from not eating. you know how your joints crack sometimes? well apparently extreme cannabinoid withdrawal causes all of your muscles to lock up and my joins and muscles cracked nonstop practically every time i moved. every few steps the muscles in my calves and ankles would crack. i've learned this is a neurological phenomenon, and it has nothing to do with gas in the joints or whatever. it's the muscles themselves. and there was constant tinnitus. all the time. unending. but it would change forms constantly. i got the typical weed withdrawal headache, but my skin burned all over constantly. that was a strange symptom. and once i was mostly through it, the burning turned into just itching.

THC seems to be about 10x as strong as d9-THC and only lasts about 3x as long. it's way more usable than THCP. THCP is honestly insane. most people never use the pure stuff. they use blends with less than 5% THCP. pure THCP made me feel like i was gonna stop breathing like from opioids because i was breathing so slowly. i spent entire days just laying there doing nothing. mind blank, utterly chill. i don't even know why. it was weird. i've never touched it again since i overcame the withdrawals. i still use THCH very sparingly though. and THCB is just barely stronger than regular THC so it's pretty useful. THCA feels identical to normal weed so it's great too.

>>84670542
Yeah.
It didn't used to be that bad but nowadays I don't have enough quiet time to wake up before my brain gets assaulted by bullshit

>>84676990
Wikipedia scholar over here doesn't grasp the basics. Shocking

>>84677332
i've tested this on my own body. say whatever you want. you don't have to believe me or understand anything.

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it's Gabapentin Friday bros

I just met some guy in an SUV to buy some mdma. He's tweaked to the gills lol and sent me like 8 different voice messages on signal telling me his eta, what hat he's wearing wtf lol. Also he's one of those weird dealers where they want you to get in their car and not just through the window. So I hop in and he's all stressed because he's got a queue of customers all over town (it's Friday night here) amd I started laughing and chatting with him cos I used to do the same and basically dealing drugs is ZERO glamor you are essentially an uber eats driver, except with the possibility or arrest and robbery. Then he's like yeah I got in debt bad with some gangsters on my gear habit (gear is meth here) and he's lime I couldn't pay it off so they're like well you're dealing for us now to pay your debt bahahahah so he's like their little slave having to run around town selling mdma meth and ket. He's like yeah I guess it's not too bad cos they kinda pay me in meth lol. I was just cracking up then he was so tweaked he almost gave me a full g but I just paid for a half g of MD so I figured out the transaction for him and wished him well. Poor guy really, like some meth slave for some gang lol. Also this shit is hitting fucking hard.

>>84677463
Take 600mg every 40 mins it works better than all at once

>>84677703
I've been doing 300mg every 30 minutes, just read that was a good way

I've gotta start controlling my edible doses better, maxxed out at 120mg last night and it just makes the t break so much more needlessly longer

>>84677703
>>84677709
why does it work better that way?

>>84677793
that's not terrible. i see people talking about being addicted to 250-500mg/day all the time. i use about 50-100mg of THCB a day, and there are significant withdrawals if i don't vape, but i have tons of this stuff so i've been avoiding a t-break.

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>>84677799
>i see people talking about being addicted to 250-500mg/day all the time
Holy fuck how do you even afford that? For me that's the more serious issue. 120mg is 5 bucks and I'm on a student budget so it's usually kinda shit to have to wait for a while.
I am planning on ordering this massive bag of edibles which are roughly 3~ as cheap and are of good quality.
The thing I am worried about though is the fact that ordering 3 of these is only 50% more than ordering a single bag due to free shipping and that this summer I would just overindulge myself way too hard. I almost feel like it would be good to stick to my current supplier to keep me in check, though I already overindulge with the expensive ones. Fuck it I might as well

>>84677834
I also don't really have any WDs from weed, the most I get is the day after getting high I will feel this deep and aching nostalgia which will make me want to never get high again but then that goes away and I do it anyways.

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>>84676971
>there is no other kind of PAWS. anyone claiming to have it from other drugs is experiencing a psychosomatic reaction or doesn't understand their own senses.
Why didn't you show the logic you used here? Are you suggesting that subjective experiences are all fake and psychosomatic?

Physical pain is a subjective experience that can't be measured. Is physical pain fake and psychosomatic?

>>84677418
>i've tested this on my own body.
How did you control for the obvious conflict of interest in this methodology?

>>84678056
>Why didn't you show the logic you used here?
because my reasoning would take a lot more explanation than i care to write out.

>Are you suggesting that subjective experiences are all fake and psychosomatic?
no, but this specific one is.

>Physical pain is a subjective experience that can't be measured.
we can measure physical pain much like we perform polygraphs. it's not extremely accurate, but it's more accurate than guessing. we can also measure the exact level of substance P in a given location in the body. and we can look at an fMRI that shows where pain centers are active in the brain.

but that's not an accurate comparison anyway. you cannot fake physical symptoms that can be observed externally, and the physical symptoms from both intoxication and withdrawal are measurable. when you're high on THC, your mouth gets dry. when you're in weed withdrawal, you experience hypersalivation (i also notice my spit's taste and texture changes). you can't speed up or slow down bowel movements just by thinking about them. you can't resist the hyperventilation from opioid withdrawal--you will hyperventilate, just like people will indeed just stop breathing in an opioid overdose. these are measurable phenomena. there is no perception or speculation involved.

>>84677463
HelI yeah. Enjoy anon

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I did more than a little bump of K this time and man was that intense. Similar in some ways to dxm though it felt much more sedating than the former.
As a side note maybe I should buy a better scale.

>>84678992
and ketamine is legit like the weakest dissociative too. i don't even think it's very euphoric compared to the dissociatives i would call "the good ones"

all the PCP/PCE analogs are better. i didn't like O-PCM and 2F-O-PCM (2F-DCK) was eh, but fluoroxetamine, and basically every single 3-substituted PCP or PCE variant is also awesome (MXE is a 3-sub PCE variant).

it's soul-crushing how hard they are to obtain. there is no harder class of recreational drugs to get your hands on besides non-ketamine/DXM dissociatives. i wish more people did these or even knew about them so there'd be greater demand. all the labs just keep synthesizing more psychedelics and stimulants because they sell well and aren't deadly or hyper-addictive like opioids and benzos, so they don't attract as much heat. and millions of retards are bought into the nonsense propaganda that PCP makes you violent or whatever. all it does is make you do whatever you were gonna do anyway. if you're violent you'll be violent. if you're not you won't be. and i'm pretty sure the big lurch story was literally completely made up to get media attention and sell CDs. it's all so frustrating.

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Gonna finish lord of hatred and do all sidequests, my gummies stach is going dry.

>>84679154
MXE is one I'd like to try if I can find it.

>>84678992
i think i'll finish the rest of what i have today. try to do way more than i usually have i want to experience this too. i've only just done some yesterday... and last week multiple times... so my tolerance won't help much.

"i'm running out of drugs therefore i should do them all today" who knows this feel

any of you guys have tripped on dramamine?

fuck it's too much
not even 100mg
how do you guys do it?
i'm a floating robot right now don't know if good or bad

>>84679859
you're just not used to it. you'll be used to it soon and what you're doing right now will feel like a typical dose to you eventually.

>>84680138
i've had this experience before several times i don't think i'm getting used to it
it even starts feeling physically unpleasant at a point

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lol. lmao.
Got seperated from his wife for the 84th time too.

pisses me the fuck off that drugs give me crazy eyes and everyone knows I'm high. it's such fucking nosy bullshit losers all want to know if I'm high.
that's why I need good classy sunglasses and contact lenses I guess.

>>84680683
>Got seperated from his wife for the 84th time too.
Nigga needed to just... Not.

Anytime I take a weed gummy or take percocet, I eat 1 or 2 tablets of sennakot out of fear of constipation.
How much can I fuck up my natural ability to shit without stool softeners if I do this 2-3 times a week?

i'm just an ant among billions
my life has no meaning whatsoever
everyone in my family is also just an ant and their lives also don't matter
there's no meaning in being fucked, it just is, and then you die

>>84645377
Finally, got 4 packs of Clonazepam 2 mg 30 tab each after a break. I also gained a source for bonafide speed, it works wonders with benzo as a background support. Of course pregabalin and buprenorphine are also going strong. Finally, I feel fucking GOOD. Last 3 weeks were a torture, I overdid it with benzos and took them way too long, so even after tapering I felt like shit incarnate. Be careful with GABAergics, kids.

>>84646585
On the bright side of things, there are so many things I haven't tried yet!

>>84646986
Nicotine is the most basic bitch drug both is the way it works, but also in how easy it is to drop it. Unlike other substances, it's not nicotine people are addicted to, but must often to the social smoking. The act of getting a cig ready. People love rituals, same with people who inject drugs - the moment they begin the preparations to shoot, they already feel sorta high.

>>84647172
Your mom is right. You sound like some unbearable manchild. "Rick and Morty" Holy Fucking Reddit.

I really hate how good diazepam feels, I feel so free from my thoughts, I have like 18bmi, hate splurging on food, just took 10mg and am now feasting on the leftovers of a swiss roll which I would otherwise find bad and unnecessary to eat now since I could've saved it for for dinner, though this will certainly be the last one for the time being, I remember well how bad it was stopping clonazepam after taking it almost daily for a while... ugh this crap sucks

>>84681380
I said something like this to my therapist and she kept swinging her head back and forth for an empathetic "No", that I thought her head was gonna fall off.

>>84681770
>swinging her head back and forth for an empathetic "No"
yeah i'm sure she has the answer to life
anyway if i was to have a woman therapist i'd probably fall in love with her instantly and she'd have to drop me as a patient

>>84681365
what are you doing that for? THC makes you constipated too? and unless you use large amounts of opioids more than one day in a row, you won't get any serious constipation. drink more water too. but that's obvious.

>>84680730
the only way anyone knows i'm on drugs is from how i'm talking and how i'm moving. nobody ever looks at my eyes.

>>84681380
you're the one who decided this. i decided something else. have fun with your nihilism.

>>84681407
there is no circumstance in which you will feel better taking a daily benzo after you've developed tolerance to it. even just maintaining your baseline will be inferior to how you'd feel if you never did this. i don't understand why any of you do this.

>>84681531
>I really hate how good diazepam feels
>ugh this crap sucks
???

>I have like 18bmi, hate splurging on food
>am now feasting on the leftovers of a swiss roll which I would otherwise find bad and unnecessary to eat now since I could've saved it for for dinner,
>I could've saved it for for dinner
???????

wtf are you doing planning to eat a half of a swiss roll for dinner. you are fucked up. the reason you like benzos so much is because you're fucked up. it's that simple. if you weren't broken then you would find that benzos rob you of your ability to achieve euphoria. relaxation and freedom from stress are not euphoria. euphoria requires stimulation.

>>84681452
i don't buy anything you said. not a single sentence of it.

>the moment they begin the preparations to shoot, they already feel sorta high

this is just ordinary anticipatory excitement. it happens for everything awesome. the more awesome it is, the more anticipation builds up.

>>84681908
>THC makes you constipated too?
I think it does, I'm typically very regular in terms of my shits but when I use THC I feel like it disturbs it alot. I suppose the jury may still be out on whether its the bad eating that comes whenever I get high off THC is the problem or the THC itself

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>>84678335
>we can measure physical pain much like we perform polygraphs.
Not very well, and measuring this way has little to do with the subjective experience of pain, which is the part that actually needs to be managed. That's why doctors don't use that sort of objective testing when managing pain. Particularly complex pain, which is its own specialization altogether.

You have a weirdly myopic and black and white understanding of how health works lol. No doctor alive evaluates patients the way you're pretending they ought to be evaluated.

>>84681835
I've only had 3 sessions with this therapist but she is pretty attractive. Unlike you though, I'm incapable of being in love with anything or anyone so I just briefly imagine what sex might feel like, go home and jerk off and then forget about everything until the next week

>>84682020
do you have shizoid or something
also count yourself lucky, maybe? if you don't need love

>>84682036
I had a brief schizo episode but no psychosis or grounds for diagnosis of it. Outside of the episode I had, there are no delusions or whatever. Still seeing a therapist because it was suggested and I have health benefits to use

>>84682086
i meant schizoid, which is an aloof person who doesn't need love or friendship

>>84681908
>you're the one who decided this. i decided something else. have fun with your nihilism.
i didn't decide it. it's just the conclusion of all my life knowledge and my perception of reality. i can't help seeing the world this way.

>>84682132
Oh then maybe. It describes who I feel I am so maybe it will come up at some point in my therapy, we haven't really gotten far yet outside of characterization the before and after of my incident

>>84682214
what incident anon

>>84682224
>>84682214
sorry you mentioned it already
if you can describe the symptoms of the episode though?

>>84682012
when i said it was like a polygraph, my entire point was that it's insufficient and inaccurate, but that we do not have no diagnostics whatsoever, which is what you originally asserted.

my original point was about drug withdrawals and their duration. you're pressing a tangent that had nothing to do with the original point.

there is no such thing as post-acute withdrawal syndrome for any class of drug other than GABAergics. and the post-acute withdrawal mechanism for GABAergics may be confined to benzos.

i will repeat exactly what i said: if it cannot be measured, it isn't withdrawal. the post-acute withdrawal syndrome from GABAergics involves muscle tics you cannot prevent just by thinking your way out of them. they aren't a feeling. it's a forced mechanical action. and the focal seizures that accompany them show up on EEG and fMRI.

people who claim they're in PAWS because they're depressed after being opioid addicts, weed addicts, SSRI addicts, stim addicts, etc, are in fact just people who lack awareness of their own senses. i have experienced all of these addictions. the withdrawal timeline is exactly the same. the rate at which the receptors return is exactly the same. all have a ~72 hour hump upon the complete removal of the drug, and it takes approx. 12-14 days to return completely to normal.

the only other possibility here is that i was born with superior genes that resolve without PAWS. but that seems absurd. it makes far more sense to me that most people in this world are presumptuous about things they don't understand.

>>84682007
>I suppose the jury may still be out on whether its the bad eating that comes whenever I get high off THC is the problem or the THC itself
consider the possibility that you're not drinking enough water to process vastly more food than you'd normally consume, and thus, you become much more dehydrated than you realize, and this causes constipation.

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>>84681908
>for dinner.
no, before dinner, it was supposed to be the dessert but became my afternoon snack
>euphoria requires stimulation
Like the fuck ton of dopamine benzos release? :) I hate how good it feels because thats what makes it addictive, if it was just anxiety relieving it would be much less of a problem

>>84682224
>>84682235
Had a caregiver related meltdown. Walked out of my apartment after screaming and breaking a few things, kept shouting to random people about how pointless everything is and they should give up going to work or going to school (don't fully remember, this is just what was reported by the people who saw me).
Started walking into the street and continuing my screaming, it looked worse than what it was because I had no socks or shoes and no shirt on. Smacked a dude's car hood and coerced him to come out and fight me, saying to him "that's what you want to do to black people". Again I don't even remember most of the stuff I said but this is just what was relayed to me.

I had oxycodone, thc and alcohol in my system when I was at the hospital so that plus the stress was deemed to have caused the mental break.

>>84682370
this is meaningless because you're ignoring the GABA-A wipeout of general activity across the brain. first off, i don't believe there's dopamine release on any significant scale, because benzos make music sound more boring, which is the opposite effect you get from dopaminergic agents. but even if there was, it wouldn't matter if you globally depress the brain and suppress the total downstream activity from dopamine transmissions. the signal cascades matter far more than the single transmission point that initiates them.

i reject the premise that you're experiencing any kind of significant dopamine release. it's far more likely you're a dumbass bartard who's developed post-acute withdrawal syndrome such that you never feel good unless you have at least some benzos in your system. or you're a current addict in which case it's obvious why you need them to feel good.

i do not feel good when i take benzos. i feel a complete absence of anxiety and less generalized discomfort. that's it. i do not believe you are experiencing euphoria. i do not trust your own perception of your senses, let alone your ability to describe them to me. i do not trust them because i have known people who enjoyed benzos recreationally versus those who only ever used them for functional purposes. their behavior and personal problems taught me everything i needed to know.

>>84682415
i've never done anything like any of that. i've never committed a single non-drug crime in my life.

people who cannot behave normally because their brains are fucked up should be pressed into slavery, not indulged.

>>84659978
3-meo-PCP & original freebase dipper PCP cigs are my favorite drug experiences alongside LSD & Mescaline

>>84666622
My personal ratings of drugs:

>Nicotine
never wanted to try it, saw it as a useless habit

>Alcohol
regret trying it, used to binge drink alcohol mixed with benzos, its a waste of time and its only value is crossfaded with weed or potentiating other downers. I hate how enabled it is by society and alcoholics are the worst addicts

>pregabalin
never tried

>cocaine, amphetamines, stims general
My favorite class of substances. Coke is overrated but profitable because of high turnover, it feels good when IV, but Meth + Adderall are my stims of choice. Meth was my favorite drug for a long time, I've had DL-Meth & superior D-Meth from L-tartaric acid washing, along with D-Meth from ephedrine reduction, its the peak definitive stim experience, unbeatable rush. Tried Ritalin/Methylphenidate, good for stim fapping but nothing else.

>Opiates
I hate fent analogs, tramadol, nitazenes, fully synthetic detached from poppy derivatives that activate these receptors. However I love pure natural opiates or semisynthetic Hydros, Oxys, Heroin. Codeine was my first, Hydrocodone my 2nd, Heroin my 3rd, Hydromorphone my 4th, Oxycodone my 5th, I want to try Oxymorphone apparently Heroin is between Oxycodone & Oxymorphone. S tier class if you get clean access. China White #4 H is my favorite substance.

>Psychedelics
LSD is what made me fall in love with Drugs, Psilocybin mellowed me out and solved my anger problems, Mescaline & 2c-B are the best for recreational purposes. I've tried 2C-E, had a bad experience.

>All other drugs, I like PCP and MDMA(but this is a stim, I've used MDMA about 30x throughout my life but I want to try the superior MDA.

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Is any other anon using Tramadol as an antidepressant? I only got 36 grams left and I worry how long the withdrawals will last once I run out of it, the gov banned tramadol here.
Turns out that I was really depressed and needed something to help me out, I've started drawing, taking my job more seriously and generally being content with my life. I just know the withdrawals are going to be hell.

>>84682492
I've been intoxicated worse than that in the past, I don't think it was just the drugs but the mental break that came before and during the intoxication. Even afterward, I've been doped up and didn't experience any of those emotions/actions again so it was just an isolated incident

I feel terrible. I snorted half a gram of mdma last night over like 3 hours. I was so fucking high. I was watching porn, fucking myself, and then I started fisting myself. With some effort I can get to NY wrist, but I can't really move my hand around. It's more like the idea of it really gets me off, that my entire fist is deep inside me. Then I was just getting SO horny I went on grindr for hours, chatting, sending pics (extremely explicit) to people. Eventually I then drove to this random guys house, it was like a little sleepout. When I walked in it was pitch black I was still semi rolling but kind of coming down so I had took 600mg of pregabalin. Anyway I just stepped in we met and the I immediately got completely naked and we had a nice long sex session. I ended up jacking his cock all over mine then using the cum as lube to jack both our cocks together. Then I left and went home (I was WAY too intoxicated to drive), and I'm STILL watching porn (straight German gangbang porn) but the comedown is seriously hitting now. Plus I have a family dinner this evening. God I need to sober up. Normally I'm straight and have had gfs in my life but it's like everytime I get high on meth or MD or equivalent I just love being gay. God that was dumb really -> I spent almost all my money on drugs, now I have 12 dollars to last until Thursday. I have food thank God. Fuck I love this kind of porn so much -> just one girl and like 20 guys all fucking her pussy and mouth raw. What an absolute total slut.

>>84683017
you're not straight. you're a faggot and you're apparently insecure about it, such that the confidence you get from the meth rush gets you over your weird issues with yourself.

a normal heterosexual man does not become gay when he takes drugs. this is such a common meme.

>>84683017
top kek anon
>Plus I have a family dinner this evening

and they're not even fucking her in the ass? what kinda softcore stuff are you watching calling her a slut

>>84683030
I said "normally" I'm straight, as in romantically inclined ONLY towards females, not other males. But I'm not insecure at all, I literally love gay sex. Call me straight gay faggot whatever I don't care. Labels are gay anyway and I have no issues with myself. You're the one that seems insecure making a post trying to insult me lol.

>>84683017
even half that amount of MDMA is dangerous, also snorting HCL salts is stupid and all the MDMA I'm aware of is HCL

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>>84683017
cute faggot

>>84683068
Atm I'm split screening this:

>https://spankbang.com/5794y/video/sperma

And:

>https://spankbang.com/7wb0s/video/german+milf+creampie+gangbang

>>84683085
>I'm straight, as in romantically inclined ONLY towards females, not other males. But I'm not insecure at all, I literally love gay sex.
your feelings on romance are irrelevant. if males sexually arouse you you are not straight. curious that you would even make this distinction.

but beyond that, the "my sexuality changes when i take drugs" thing is what annoys me. i hate liars and you are a liar.

>>84683017
>>84683085
Brother accept who you are

>>84683152
I used to read vore erotica smut on that site aryion while binging meth years ago

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so, after a long time, and a few disasters, i've finally determined that 3-FL-PCP is literally a stimulant, probably about 1/5th the strength of adderall and approximately the same long duration. and since it's a weak dissociative, you have to get hard into the stimzone to also get enough dissociation to really get dissed. i'm all out of them now, but when i had it, i was doing it with 3-OH-PCP, which is about as strong as morphine, and 5x as strong of a dissociative as 3-FL-PCP. the 3-OH-PCP enabled me to diss heavily and use much less 3-FL-PCP for color on top. since i know the 3-FL-PCP is a stimulant now, i now see that i was basically doing a mild speedball + a PCP high, which explains why it was legit the most euphoric thing i've ever experienced in my life. the tiny hint of opioid effect from 3-OH-PCP never gave me withdrawals, even when i was doing it a ton, because 30mg of morphine isn't a ton, but 30mg of 3-OH-PCP would make you black out for a few hours if you did it all at once. and the 3-FL-PCP i added on top was never more than a small amount of adderall in intensity. then if you can get yourself to a high 2nd plat level diss, the additional side-effects of these 2 specific PCP analogs creates an insanely euphoric disso-speedball high. other dissociatives are fun, but this was a very unique experience, and naturally, was pretty psychologically addictive. makes me so sad it's so hard to get arylcyclohexylamines other than ketamine (which is really not that great imo compared to the "good ones").

>>84683539
actually, i'd say my best psychedelic trips were still more euphoric--but 40mg of 3-OH-PCP and 120mg of 3-FL-PCP over the course of the night was still guaranteed to be absolutely epic, every time, no matter what happened. the 3-FL-PCP really does make you act a bit crazy though. you have to be very careful with it. also, it gets your blood pressure insanely high. when you're at the peak and the euphoria is crazy my resting BP was 150/110 with 80-90 HR. 3-OH-PCP alone wouldn't do numbers like those, just some high blood pressure.

>>84682332
>if it cannot be measured, it isn't withdrawal.
Which reputable healthcare institution uses this definition?

>>84682332
>the only other possibility here is that i was born with superior genes that resolve without PAWS.
How did you determine that was the only other possibility?

>>84683558
>>84683539
Bro aren't you worried being a guinea pig for these random alphabet drugs?

When I was younger I was like you, trying all kinds of random shit. I think I've tried over 50 different drugs. Looking back this was complete idiocy, and incredibly risky and damaging to my health.

As I've gotten older (I'm 34) I'm really starting to see why classic drugs are classics. They have a long history of use. I'm talking the main ones-> coke, heroin, alcohol, LSD, etc. Why take random alphabet drugs when the classics are better and safer?

>>84682477
Well, the medical ltierature disagrees but you do you