Or did you give up on women completely? For example, how can you forget that she's designed to drain all your life forces and resources from you and she'll monkey branch at the first chance? Or she'll bang a thug if she's certain that there's no chance you'll ever find out? It's all so depressing and tiresome...
Why nobody responds?
you're just spreading the meme with human magic, if you want something to manifest you use human consciousness
>>84656464>if you want something to manifest you use human consciousness>>/x/I'm being serious
>>84656250I just do what i always did anyways like gaming and jerking off. You can look at this with a positive outlook that you wont ever fall for the "late glowup" meme and marry roastie while being a virgin. Just enjoy life as is. And if you cant. Hero out for a possible isekai adventure.
>>84656250I'm blackpilled in the sense that I understand looks and genetics are everything when it comes to dating/sex. But I've also realized that women aren't 100% driven by that. Like if you have a relationship with a girl you can kind of nudge her into the directions you want if you are manipulative enough in subtle ways.
>>84656250I dream of ever finding a woman who's better than me and just loves me for who I am. It will never happen though
>>84656513There's no better way, isn't it? Thousands years of evolution and civilization and it all comes down to this? That women are stupid whores, so either you are a fuckmeat for her, or everything she can possibly dream of, or a simp, or a vidya enjoyer loser? There's no way in the universe to have a woman who love you and want to have sex regularly without her being overly energy draining?>>84656535Yes they aren't, I realized that too. It doesn't help much since you must constantly manipulate a being that doesn't really want to be with you out of her own will. You can put so much effort and she won't ever respect you unless you manipulate her into it. It's so fucking depressing like holy fuck.>>84656589I don't want that, I WANT to be better and do beta provider shit on the condition I get adoration back. I WANT to look good and all that attractive shit. But I refuse to commit 100% to a hole and become dopamine-dependant from her.
>>84656676>vidya enjoyer loser?I dont consider fucking these used up whores as a victory personally. Only real winner in my view at least is guys who married highschool love deal and it worked out. Either way lowest on this totem pole is a simp/beta provider for a used up hoe.
>>84656250im actually incel so it makes me happy knowing normies are dealing with this shit
The only way out of being blackpilled is to become whitepilled and TRULY stop caring. Getting yourself to stop caring about something is easier said than done, but after a decade or so of caring you eventually just get so fatigued and exhausted that you really just don't give a shit. Also, bonus tip, doing ketamine completely whitepilled me on women and sex and relationships because it made me feel one with God and completely free of any sexual desire to the point where the concept of sex just seemed alien and bizarre.
It's possible to find a loyal woman but it's like a needle in a haystack and she might be ugly.I've had women be obsessed with me but I wasn't attracted to them and didn't like them in any way.Problem with people now is they wanna watch TV and doom scroll and then still be expect people to be interested in them even though there is nothing to be interested in other than their body and pussy.
>>84656746>fucking these used up whoesI wouldn't be so judgemental, because shit happens for women as well. I just can't cope with the female hypergamic nature I guess. There's no meta in life so you'll never be enough for her even if she's just a mid hole.>>84656785I'm an incel myself for 6 years even though I've been in two long term relationships and had sex maybe like 12 times in my whole life which was highly unsatysfying and that plus blackpill theory killed romance for me. I'd be so much better person if I didn't have any pussy at all, much less bitter for sure.>>84656788I detach from any plans towards women like in an instant, but like 10% of me doesn't want to give up. I need a way out of this state or I'm declaring jihad towards women.>>84656795Loyal in what sense? Too insecure to find a man by herself? So self-conscious that she thinks you are her best option ever? Fuck that. I have many qualities, but women will turn it on me that I am the problem, because they prefer to date other ethnicities, or be a dog mom or whatever and she recommend me or whoever to be gay. Like holy shit, how am I supposed to sympathize with women?> nothing to be interested in other than their body and pussyI'm perfectly cool with that, my bar is set so low, yet it's still to high for some women.
I summon elders of pills
>>84657046>loyal in what sensedo you not know what loyal means? Conversation terminated, don't even respond.
>>84657313Okay, byebye^^ (original comment)
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Write something motherfuckers
>>84658386If you are a normie than good luck, live and suffer. I'm an incel and knew I'll die a virgin since I was 14. You center yourself around women which makes you a bigger faggot than an actual faggot.
>>84658970>You center yourself around womenI avoid women with passion, because all I got from interactions with them is trauma, what the fuck are you talking about. More like I'm a failed normie.
>>84659001Then why do you need to cope? Just dont talk to them and live your life. Go on a hike and then jerk off when you get home, idk.
>>84659019Because I'm still young and have time to do sth about it, it's too early to give up.
>>84659033Im 19 and already stopped caring, you can do it too. You either act or not. Try to be a normie or dont.
>>84656250You go to the gym and try your hardest to improve on physiological level. That's what looksmaxxing is all about. You see the world for as it is. And humans, by design, are very visual creatures. So you go and try to become handsome. The road will be tough, but there is light at the end of the tunnel for most.
I just took the cunny pill and never looked back. 3 dimensional pig disgusting.
>>84659183Only works if you are mtn or higher. I'm 2 years into the gym and I know I'll always be an incel
>>84659033you are concerned because you are still imagining them from your perspective rather than understanding theirs>"a fun time" vs "potential life long mate"Just shift your understanding to them doing cost basis analysis and your 'guilt' for treating them how they should be treated goes away
>>84656403>>84656250I don't know anon, I haven't found a way to fully copeI am just saddened
>>84659209Hence, I said for most. But how has your progress been going?
>>84659183And what does the light looks like? A mid woman that settle for you because she won't find any better? I have no problem with the grinding. The problem for me is, it never ends. And it does not guarantee a success.Also, it doesn't address the problem I stated in the OP. Are you going to forget that the only thing she likes about you is how much you fit into her fantasy of an animal/thug raping her? She doesn't think of you as a human, but rather ATM with a dick. Female "love" is utter bullshit. Are you going to swallow your pride just to coom and feel fizzy in pp for several seconds? My problem is, I see female psyche completely disgusting and inattractive. I'd love to be wrong, but I see no way out of this bitter worldview without gasslighting myself. If I'm wrong, why nobody proved me, or guys like hoe_math wrong? How the fuck do they even cope?>>84659223It's not about me worrying I'll treat them badly, I don't see how tf can I enjoy interacting with them. >"a fun time" vs "potential life long mate"You can be both. And still refused le heckin sex :)
>>84659428problem is you still see them as the potential latter rather than the fact that ALL of them see you as the 'potential fun time thing for now'. As soon as you make that switch in your head you can enjoy them again. The only reason you would want to be around one for a 'long time' is to put a baby in her.
>>84656250I don't care about foids. I know they are worthless useless leeches and that they are irredeemably evil. They hold no power over me and I try to interact with them as little as I can.
>>84659598Are long term relationships possible without children in your opinion? Because for a quick fun, vidya drugs and wanking do the thing for me.
>>84656250I cope by complaining and also bettering my life little by little. I realized if that's the game you can either wait your turn or opt-out. But now I know shit never changes, waiting turns has become not so bad.If she's a pump and dump, then you can get a pass or you can't.There's never been a whore that is better than my imagiantion.
>>84659628its not that they aren't possible, everything is possible. Just that there is zero reason to associate with them for long term beyond some need to procreate. Also 'hating' them for their nature vs recognizing them as liabilities are two vastly different states of mind. The latter allowing you to happily ignore them if you wish the former forcing you to pay attention to them.
