They have no problem fucknig psychopaths, sociopaths, serials killers, drug dealers, abusers, drug addicts, niggers, or even mentally retarded males. But god forbid that a male is born with autism. Women will see a male with autism and be absolutely repulsed by him. They will call the cops on him for the crime of existing near a female while being an autistic male.I just don't fucking get it. What's up with autism being the ultimate pussy repellant? What makes autism in males so utterly abhorrent?
>>84656898I'm adhd so I don't know how empathize with you I can fit in to either side if I want to
>>84656898because you don't need them to be happy and you can see through their toxic behavior. Women fucking hate that shit
>>84656898Women acquire power through social skills and mastering ambiguity. They weaponize uncertainty so they can keep men at their mercy as the decision makers/sexual selectors. This doesn't work with autists, they require direct communication with no room for you to asspull some bullshit after you say something that could go either way. You can't use "um you should just know" with an autist.
Autism is preantedromal inverse why blind (toil) latter niggers are retards fastfix for sex genius hacks otherwise large issues of retardation with nonspecial needs and drug use reported by others is cataclysmic and the genius of it is that is easily replicated by disco stick and pill mill John/Mom/GF. Anti autism allege neverending ludicrous punishments until you know what
>>84656898Because autism is "off". Even mild autism is really obvious and a bit off-putting and upsetting. I was diagnosed at 12 and have spent nearly 20 years pushing against my own brain every day, and people can tell. They just know. Not only that, because autism comes in different flavours, it's mostly associated with IRL versions of Sheldon Cooper, but without the intelligence.I work with autistic kids and teens now and most of them are basically just harmless weirdos, but a decent portion are truly fucking unbearable. Loud, cruel, narcissistic, and worst of all, really stupid and inept. Unearned ego. Women normally love "unearned ego" and cockiness, but not from humourless weirdos who walk funny and gold their hands like velociraptors. Sometimes when I am working with them, I wonder if that is how people see me, and it terrifies me.
>>84657061>Sometimes when I am working with them, I wonder if that is how people see me, and it terrifies me.It's even worse, they don't know how to "see" you since you're obviously "off" but not easily dismissed as just a retard who makes raptor hands, so their brains melt down from not being able to tell why you just won't do the needful and redeem the social rituals like a proper normalsaar.
>>84656898Social skills are a general intelligence proxy
women are retarded in general it's just part of their niggerishness so they hate timmies that's uncool
>>84657121Group leaders are usually only between 1 and 2 standard deviations above in IQ. When the gap gets too wide, you get basically the same issue as autism, a double empathy problem, because the high IQ person considers a lot of shit obvious that the rest can't just gloss over.
>>84657093This is actually quite true. I struggle to maintain jobs and personal relationships/friendships because I really cannot do social rituals. I don't gossip or form into cliques, I don't lie for personal gain (though I do tell absurd lies for fun then come clean). Hierarchy based on social position (as opposed to competence) is deranged to me. When I was younger and good looking, I had no trouble getting dates and hook-ups, but I could never keep a woman around me for more than a few months.Interestingly, as a white guy, non-whites like me the most. They tend to be kind of drawn to me, male and female, probably because they can tell that I am also "different", or they can't tell just how weird I am due to the language and cultural barriers. Most white people tend to view me with quiet unease and palpable anxiety.
>>84657149>only between 1 and 2 standard deviations above in IQ.>onlyThat's actually massive.
>>84657155>They tend to be kind of drawn to me, male and female, probably because they can tell that I am also "different"It's like how being a foreigner in Japan lets you escape their fucktarded social labyrinths because they don't expect you to "just know", but if you're born Japanese and autistic, then lol, lmao even.
>>84657165>>84657149Yeah, two standard deviations is the gap between a normal person and an actual retard, or a normal person and a university professor, or a university professor and a once-in-a-lifetime genius.
>>84657121I work in a research group that researches the maritime economy. Two of my coworkers are autistic and have a PhD. No, it is not a proxy for actual intelligence
>>84656898Because autism is the direct opposite direction of Chad Thundercock. Their holes will close at the sight of anyone non Chadly, while gagging on his thunder meat
>>84657187I've noticed this to be mostly true. I've been tested. Most actual tests don't give you the actual numbers, but rank you to know if they should discard mental illnesses as causing your mental issues. So I've got around the 95th-98th percentiles.I usually think of my brother and my mother as not that intelligent, and they both score above average. I used to get on better with my father because he was close to being gifted, so I would often find myself more satisfied with his explanations and conversations, though he was a male BPD, and that's another can of worms
>>84657188If you were a phd in bio instead of econ you'd probably know that trait proxies don't need to be perfect to have a significant and positive impact in aggregate selection.
Because it doesn't really exist, you're basically repurposing their own weaponized victim pathology against them and the resent you for it
>>84658494*they originally
>>84656898autism is a form of retardationtheyre retarded in the realm of social interactionnobody wants to wipe a grown mans ass
All of the examples you've presented has one thing in common: dark triad.Women are attracted to aggressive, assertive, dominating and so on.Autists are coy, and women hate coy.
>>84657187Wouldnt a once in a lifetime genius be 100 iq lol
>>84658494It's the opposite, non-autistics don't really exist. No one *seriously* believes that it's efficient to communicate with bullshit mind games rather than using words to convey specific meanings. They're just playing pretend.
>>84658548Normies have no self-awareness. They don't know they are doing that at all. They are retarded.
Autistic men are insufferable. Any woman who has tried to love an autistic man will tell you the same thing. The incidental narcissism. The special needs. The complete inability to connect emotionally.
>>84656898in my experience they like my autism :)
>>84658628>The complete inability to connect emotionally.You also have a complete inability to do that, because emotions do not transfer information, they're an internal subjective mental state. Non-autistics are clearly psychotic. Non-autistics are full of special needs too except they don't even agree to express them verbally. And they refuse to even try to look at things from the perspective of someone who doesn't think exactly like the way they hallucinate what they think someone else's mind is like.
>>84658628It's really difficult to not make everything about yourself but it's often since we spend so much time in our heads. It's intuitive to just use ourselves as a reference, but it does come off as very narcissistic, sorry.
>>84658695My man listen to yourself right now>"Nuh-uh! I'm not the weirdo one YOU NASTY MEAN NORMIES ARE!Grow up, retard.
>>84658695Great example of the kind of shit that women have to put up with from autistic men. So clueless lmao
>>84658711Non-autistic people are objectively really fucking weird though, it's undeniable. Imagine being born in the only species capable of language, taking it for granted and acting like dogs sniffing each other's assholes as "social interaction".
>>84658695the autistic faggot it chimping out! point and laugh!
>>84658715>>84658736Great example of how non-autistics are completely insane. They can't articulate any points and get defensive when you poke holes in the things they say, because they refuse to commit to detail and precision. It's like talking to an animal that has a machine with an LLM attached to it rather than a person who can properly exchange information.
>>84658735>Non-autistic people are objectively really fucking weird though, it's undeniable. Imagine being born in the only species capable of language, taking it for granted and acting like dogs sniffing each other's assholes as "social interaction".kek
>>84658735>>84658751Case in fuckin point LOL.You will NEVER get it. That's why you're DISABLED, REEEETAAAARD!
>>84658751Maybe you should just talk to LLMs. They will be more on your level of consciousness.
>>84658776>You will NEVER get itThere's objectively nothing to "get" you just have mild baseline psychosis. If there was something to get, you'd describe it.>>84658789LLMs are more akin to non-autistics because they also fundamentally do not understand language, much like non-autistics.
>>84658789Giving autists is AI is like giving black people crack because cocaine was too expensive for them lmao, poor dipshits never had a chanceOh well, some one needs to pay for those datacenters!
What people call normal behavior is just a cluster of unexplained rituals that you are meant to perform. A normalfag will expect something fuck-all arbitrary, like "wear green shoes while sipping iced tea (with lemon)".If you question any of this, they will get really mad. "DO IT BECAUSE I SAID SO, YOU'RE A FAGGOT IF YOU DON'T DO IT RIGHT NOW"They will especially demonize you if you mess any of this up e.g. "wore blue shoes, sipped iced tea (without lemon)"Notice how ESLs also get treated the same as autistics. Not one normalfag knows an ESL. That's why they can't name five countries on a map.That's why autistics become billionaires, because once they realize normies are just inputs disguised as people "PRESS X Y X X X Y RIGHT NOW" they just give the exact result and then collect some money for it.
>>84657155Holy shit, you're describing my exact experience as a mildly artistic dude, however I'm Norwegian and was raised in an environment with very few minorities whose acceptance/interest I rejected due to my desire to fit in with "my people".
>>84658803>language models dont understand language Now youre just being silly
>>84658258The thread is about autism. Functioning autistic people have an average intelligence with a higher comorbidity for being gifted.So your answer is outside the scope of the thread, mixing all the population with low IQ with a small subset.Basically, you're mixing drooling retards with the spergs who are the subject of the thread.What's funny is that they fuck regardless of their low IQ and EQ. So your answer is wrong from two different angles.Not to forget that most EQ tests are a complete joke that test people on things like their understanding of literary motives and sayings.
>>84656898Ball-less men cannot protect them. They want lions.
>>84658838Being mildly autistic in a Nordic country (except maybe Denmark) is basically easy more, they're the best countries in which you can be direct, asocial, private and quiet.
>>84658857>matrix multiplications understand languageMachine learning doesn't work on symbolic logic.
We are making fun of you for reaffirming our suspicions you are an insecure man but to conceited to admit it. You're acting like a child who throws the blame on others.>>84658838Was it worth it? Do you even FIT IN with "your people"? Or are you still the weirdo outcast?
>>84658889>reaffirming our suspicionsIt is not my fault that you are psychotic and reaffirm your own made up beliefs.
>>84658695>emotions do not transfer informationYou're an idiot
>>84658949>neurotransmitters binding to receptors inside your skull transfer information outwards
>>84658918I'm yanking your chain, chill. Are you sure you should even be posting on 4chan, dawg? Really think about it.
Women despise manlets too.
>>84656898Because autists are judgmental, sexist, racist, obsessed and horrible, retarded awful human beings just like your post confirms. Plus no one wants their kids to inherit their genes. It is a good thing you are removed from the genepool
>>84658963I'm being trolled right now
>>84658971Ah, the backpedal relying on intentional ambiguity, a non-autistic classic.
>>84658981>Because autists are judgmental, sexist, racist, obsessed and horrible, retarded awful human beingsNon-autistic projection and assumption. None of those things are features of autism. Are non-autists ever capable of assessing something objectively?
>>84658886This kind of technical gotcha is another good example of the negative aspects of autism. Nobody thinks youre smart or interesting for reducing the discussion to a debate over technical definitions.
>>84659039Unfortunately, reality is technical and comprised of details, and the purpose of a discussion isn't to try "appear smart or interesting".
>>84659024It is no coincidence internet spaces with the most autist are the most vile and cruel to others, like 4chan or 8ch. Just endless narcissism and obsession. Autist do not have souls
>>84659076Unlike Facebook and Telegram, full of those sweet neurotypicals like, for example, the narcos, the pimps, and the mercenaries.Just say autists are icky because they make my fee-fees hurty and move on
>>84659076>internet spaces with the most autist are the most vile and cruel to others, like 4chan or 8chThose are neurotics and cluster B's you're thinking of. There's nothing autistic about /pol/, they hate nuance and operate purely on vibes. The average American poster on /pol/ doesn't even know what a state senator does or how the filibuster works, they do not have an autistic interest in politics.
>>84659101Autistics dont just hurt feelings, they carry on mass murders and basically are the main antagonist in their scrambled heads where they take over the world. Soulless narcissistic vermin. It is why they are more attracted to extremist politics and identities than normal people as well. >>84659110Plenty of autist on /pol/ and plenty of tourist, both are true statements. There are dedicated spaces all over the internet these days that fit my description don't lie. It's known Autistics even have trouble understanding "What might hurt other people" or "known to be insensitive but neurotypicals are expected to not call this what it is, which is blatant psychopathy. It maybe isnt ALL Autistics in this category but it is the majority.
>>84659153>Autistics dont just hurt feelings, they carry on mass murdersThey don't. The majority of mass murders are perpetrated by people with ASPD, not autism.https://www.elizabethkelleylaw.com/blog/is-there-a-link-between-autism-and-violent-crime/>Once these other disorders were taken into account, the study showed that the rate of violence in people with only ASD was lower than the rate of violence in people without ASD. Therefore, the evidence indicated that having ASD may actually reduce the risk of violence.
>>84659153Again, you're projecting normaltard behavior on autistic people just to get mad yourself
>>84659003How do you know if I'm not autistic as well?
>>84659282I'm the President of Autism and I can revoke your citizenship.
>>84658876I think you're correct. I believe following my limited interactions with non-nordic europeans that nordics(rurals especially) are much more autistic than other europeans.>>84658889>Was it worth it? Do you even FIT IN with "your people"? Or are you still the weirdo outcast?I believe so. People(minorities and natives alike) still seem to gravitate towards me, enjoy talking to me and seem disappointed at my lack of reciprocation even after years of consciously rejecting the relationships they attempt to form. My problem is not that people reject me, but I cannot bring myself to commit to the relationships I form with others be they "my kin" or foreigners(minorities).
>>84658822Joke's on you normalnigger, I use DeepSeek. Fuck your data centers.>>84659153Most crime is committed by normie sexhavers.
>>84657093Neurotypicals need routine, you see. They have meltdowns if they aren't allowed to stim with their repetitive behaviors of social rituals.>>84657149>because the high IQ person considers a lot of shit obvious that the rest can't just gloss over.This has been a huge problem throughout my life. I am constantly asked things like 'how do you know this' and it's like... do you people not read books? Do you not pay attention to the world around you? Do you not ask why things work the way they work? How do you get to your mid/late 30's WITHOUT figuring these things out?>>84658695>Non-autistics are full of special needs too except they don't even agree to express them verbally. And they refuse to even try to look at things from the perspective of someone who doesn't think exactly like the way they hallucinate what they think someone else's mind is like.We call these theory of mind issues, neurotypicals really struggle with them. :)>>84658735>Imagine being born in the only species capable of language, taking it for granted and acting like dogs sniffing each other's assholes as "social interaction".As brutal as it is accurate.>>84658826Ultimately, it all comes back to fear and insecurity.They want you to wear green shoes because 9the tribe] (which hasn't existed in that form 30,000 years but neurotypicals still obey primitive instincts from that time as if they're relevant today) wears green shoes so if you don't wear green shoes you must be part of another tribe and thus a threat.Nevermind the fact that this completely disregards the way human living situations have evolved from when we huddled around a fire in mud huts, their ape instincts say you are a threat and they act on that without ever questioning that feeling or its validity because someone not wearing green shoes terrifies them, even in a so-called 'individualistic' society.They are literally less evolved, and unable to adapt to their environment.
>>84659153>"What might hurt other people" or "known to be insensitiveThat's because the things that 'hurt' you are things like:>You being wrong about something and being too insecure and immature to handle it when someone points that out.>You projecting your insecurity on someone because they have a bigger vocabulary than you do.>You 'just getting a bad feeling about someone'.>You being mad someone doesn't stare directly at your eyes and contort their face in the right way.>Your ego not being stroked properly by everyone you meet.Very hurtful things, absolutely intentional ways of harming you and not just the inevitable results of your emotional immaturity that you blame others for rather than growing as a person.
>>84658628>>84659153I've know plenty of people who are all those things, yet they get pussy just because they are neurotypical.
>>84659661That's really the main thing.>blah blah blah autists are [a bunch of shit that has nothing to do with ASD and is present in plenty of men without autism]Seriously they should just admit they don't like autists purely because of the difference in how perceive the world and communicate. They don't like that they're weird. That's it. It's just a personal bias against eccentricity and unorthodox behaviors.
>>84659685I really think this >>84656986 post is the closest to answering the OP correctly. Women are taught or implicitly learn that their power comes from social manipulation. Autists are either oblivious or immune to such manipulation, or recognize it for what it is.Imagine you're a guy with a gun. People fear your gun and give you respect for it. Sometimes, other people have guns, but you master the subtle art of implying threat, of giving the impression you're more willing to use your gun than they are, and they back off. Your gun is the source of all your power, respect, and status. Then one day, someone comes along who, in defiance of everything you have spent your life learning, doesn't fear your gun. He treats you as an equal, not with the same fearful respect everyone else does, and this makes you furious, because doesn't he know you have a gun and deserve respect? Doesn't he know you're powerful? But no matter how much threat you imply, no matter how many times you rest your hand on your holster, he doesn't care. He's completely indifferent to your power. So you draw your gun and shoot him - and the bullets just bounce off. You have no power over him. Now, for the first time in your life, you need to face the fact that you're not powerful, nor deserving of respect, without your gun. The one weapon you have and that you've relied on your entire life is useless.
>>84659855Absolute trvke holy shit. You put it better than i ever could
>>84659855Beautiful allegory anon. The others don't even come close. They may hate you on some instinctual level, but it all accumulates to you playing by another set of rules, that they have no power over, and may not even comprehend those rules. They just know it disadvantages them.
>psychopaths, sociopaths, serials killers, drug dealers, abusers, drug addicts, niggers, or even mentally retarded malesThese categories of people generally have no problem getting what they want (yes, even genuine retards). Autism is just the ultimate sign of weakness, you're constantly being punished by your own brain and exhibit complete helplessness in seemingly normal everyday situations. What it boils down to, is weakness.
>>84656898psychopaths will kill for themsociopaths will steal for them Autist do nothing but talk about that one specific thing they have been doing for the last 10 years.Also almost all those types that you listed will ignore women's personal spaces until they get a girl. Most Autist bemoan and cry at the idea of even asking a girl out and when rejected they are not like the others that go "fuck you" and just keep looking, they collapse into themselves and make r9k threads asking why girls won't date them.
>>84656986>This doesn't work with autists, they require direct communication with no room for you to asspull some bullshit after you say something that could go either way.That doesn't work on psychopaths, or sociopaths. In fact people with autism are much more easier to manipulate (Look at the legacy of Chrischan) it's just you don't have to do head games or have a silver tongue, you just need to bold face lie to them, they have a very hard time understanding any nuance in the world, look at the OP, he can't see that strength and power is the usual endgame.
>>84659855This has to be the weirdest cope I've read in awhile. You are arguing that women are smarter than most men and only autist are smarter than them.
>>84661913not really, i don't think his analogy had anything to do with the intelligence of either gender.
>>84656898Skill issue. I have autism and women find it hilarious.
>>84661899>easier to manipulate (Look at the legacy of Chrischan)CWC is an outlier case of someone who took way, way too long to become jaded. The nigger had an endless naive happy-go-lucky attitude without learning despite stepping on rakes over and over again. Most autists eventually stop trusting other people much earlier in life than him. Basically, he's not just autistic, but also a fool.
My gf is autistic and it's pretty difficult social wise. She can barely function in any social setting in a normal way and she HAS to say the most outrageous shit at the most inappropriate time and just doesn't understand why she shouldn't say it. I love being with her because she's adorable and I wouldn't have her any other way thoughIf she were a guy, she'd be a scale model train giga turbovirgin-tier autist. I can understand that from a woman's perspective why having a guy like this as a partner would be fucking terrible. You couldn't take him outside because it would just be embarrassing every single moment.
>>84663019Gynocentric worldview. Women get to be "cute" when they're socially retarded.
>>84656898Because they cant figure an autistic man out. You can't gaslight them in the typical ways or manipulate them like everyone else.
>>84656898because it's a stable form of neurodivergence and stability is le ick. Malignant women want to tie down an attractive but aloof and sociopathic math. Most women are malignant. Guys on the functional end of the spectrum will have decent jobs, live quiet lives, probably appreciate sex and want to bond with someone they're attracted to. It's of note that male autism is way different from female autism, at least as we know it now. Every foid, self or otherwise diagnosed, with 'autism' has collected the entire cluster B set and is a Ramona Flowers-tier relationship averse mess. A woman with male-style autism is probably so weird that you'd be repulsed too, and is usually very ugly too.
>>84661955The entire post claims women have their power from social manipulation. If true it demands women both have a harder sense of reality and emotional intelligence to be able to use those skills on a man.
>>84663019Feels like she is just choosing to be like that. If she had consequences she wouldn't. Autistic people aren't retards you can teach them shit. Like she says some fucked up shit at a social event consequence is you leave immediately and go home and she has to miss out and then reflect, WOW ACTUALLY REFLECT, on what she fucking did.
Not formally diagnosed, but a number of women have said that I could be from their interaction with me, but I think in their heads any detail oriented or nerdy hobbyist type guy must be autistic. It's hard to say: either way... I've glad I was born a 7 because being weird AND ugly sounds like a shotgun reroll.
>>84657188having a phd is not a proxy for intelligence is what you mean to say
>>84663154It's actually just economics and game theory. Men willingly assume the inherently inferior position of being the chaser and end up locked into it due to a prisoner's dilemma they've created for themselves, because any one man who stops chasing is merely left out of the dating market, and the others have an incentive to stay the less competition there is, making it impossible to have a gender-wide coordinated push to change behavior. Women exploit their position as the sexual selectors because why the fuck wouldn't they? People respond to incentives. If men act like they have to "win over" women and "deserve" them, women are then going to pick and choose based on their preferences and impose demands on men. Women are also given very clear rewards for developing social skills because most people have a pro-woman bias where they tend to assume that women are innocents or victims by default in any dispute. Men are given more incentives to become skilled in more practical or mechanical matters so a bunch of them turn their focus elsewhere. In addition, the whole "never hit a woman" standard effectively shields women from being outright punched in the face for crossing a line, meaning they get to be much bolder when developing said social skills.
>>84662890He's not. He's just a public case. Unless I'm misunderstanding you and by "autist" you mean the "quirky" boys. Because the thing is autistic people just can't into society and a big reason why is they can't emotionally regulate worth for shit, they get winded up to hard and get to fixated on things without much effort but after fixated they are just fucked sideways of ever being free of it. They can't control behavior, which ironically makes it hard for good faith people to be around them and handle them because they lack the grace to be good to others and not cause problems when they don't get what they want but makes them very easy targets for people that just want to be cruel because the poor retard can't into social cues and gets fuck over in ways they never thought possible.
>>84663169>reward her when she misbehavesRetarded normie detected
>>84663169She isn't choosing to do it because she spirals and has a meltdown over it every time afterwards or even if she feels she had an outburst even if she didn't. She sometimes understands it is inappropriate but she just can't help it, like she builds up a backlog of shit she has to say NOW or really bad things will happen. If she holds back and doesn't say it, she bottles it up and it overwhelms her extremely quickly.You take her outside, she's gonna cry about something she said or something she didn't say. Autism is shit.
>>84663216Nah autists build up a lot for events and want to do well at them and being punished and taken home like a child having a fit would give her a humiliation
>>84663207>He's not. He's just a public case. Unless I'm misunderstanding you and by "autist" you mean the "quirky" boys.No, what I mean is that, while autists are by definition hampered in the social skills department, the majority of them quickly accrue enough shitty experiences early in life to get burnt out and wary about other people, hence why autists are notorious for spending a lot of time alone.>they can't emotionally regulate worth for shitEmotional dysregulation is a feature of autism, but not all emotional dysregulation is the same. Bipolar mania is also "emotional dysregulation" and looks nothing like autism. Alexithymia can be quite varied and there's a reason why a common autist stereotype is the "cold Aspie robot" who freaks out people by never showing emotion.>They can't control behaviorExecutive dysfunction can be present but it's not a core feature and not nearly as high as in other disorders.
>>84663202You are alone because you have some weird hang ups of this whole go ask women out thing. It's only an inferior position if you are scared of girls, it's only an inferior position if you have no strong emotional regulation and your body treats rejection as if you are dying. Most of what you do in life is chasing things, food, games, comfort, love, status, life as a whole is making motion, you are chasing for conversations here, do you see yourself in a "inferior position" when you have to make threads and reply? After all, just like the women we can ignore your posts, ignore your threads and leave you alone. All of this is just noise, fear is what stops you and only action will ever make it go away.
>>84663238>has a meltdownSo fucking what she isn't a nuclear reactor let the tist be in her tist feelings>she can't help it or bad things will happenBecause everybody coddles her and no consequences. She just loves attention>it overwhelms her extremely quicklySo go sit outside. I am a woman with autism and just find reasons to excuse myself when I get overwhelmed. I don't have a crazy need to be rude and insult people because I was raised by mean boomer parents that didn't allow that>she's gonna cryNot a death sentenceShe's your master you are her slave rnTeach her it's not the way it is. She sounds like an uppity fucking brat.
>>84663242>autists are by definition hampered in the social skills departmentby definition they are just hampered by their whole brain, restricted Interests and repetitive behaviors are very bad for brain health and they crave that. That shit will fuck you up. >Emotional dysregulation is a feature of autism, but not all emotional dysregulation is the same. Yes but to OP's question that plays a big fucking part to why they are unwanted. If the argument is "but they are not as bad as [____]" yeah no shit but that doesn't make it any more wanted or desirable.
>>84663254>You are alone because you have some weird hang ups of this whole go ask women out thingGynocentric worldview. If being the chaser didn't suck ass, women would choose to do it, but they don't. They are obviously privileged by being allowed to just exist and have men throw themselves at them. And mind you, men actually have no choice to not chase if they want to date; if you stop going after women, they won't start coming after you. Women on the other hand risk absolutely nothing by taking initiative, they just cease being in a position where they can be passive and not put in any effort.
>>84663277>restricted Interests and repetitive behaviors are very bad for brain healthWhat's your model?>that plays a big fucking part to why they are unwanted. If the argument is "but they are not as bad as [____]" yeah no shit but that doesn't make it any more wanted or desirableOP's question isn't framed in a way that presents autism as good or "not bad", but rather a simpler "why the fuck is being a socially awkward dork worse than being an aggressive retard who actively causes troubles?"
>>84663259Now this is why autismos should absolutely not give emotional advice
>>84663316I know an autistic woman because I am one and I know for a fact she's being coddled because of her boobs
>>84663316She's more correct than the other guy though, based on this thing he said:>>84663238>she builds up a backlog of shit she has to say NOW or really bad things will happen. If she holds back and doesn't say it, she bottles it up and it overwhelms her extremely quickly.This is folk psychology and completely wrong. There's no such thing as "building up" stuff that you "just have to do". In fact the reverse is true, the more you give in to those impulses, the more you condition yourself to do them again, both more frequently and more intensely.
>>84663294>If being the chaser didn't suck ass, women would choose to do itThat's a very midwit view of modus tollens anon. >They are obviously privileged by being allowed to just exist and have men throw themselves at themYou can also see the privileged of picking out the woman you want. If the girl likes you but you show no interest, she can not pursue you, she just stayed caged by what is approaching her. Only a coward would see it as a privileged to have to sit and wait for something to happen. >if you stop going after women, they won't start coming after youCorrect, much like if you stop perusing a career it won't start chasing you, or if you stop posting on the internet people won't start looking for you. >Women on the other hand risk absolutely nothing by taking initiativeSpoilers: there are women that do that, they go to dating apps. That's the paradox here, the women that do that tend to chase online and go for the top shelf. >they just cease being in a position where they can be passive and not put in any effortSo you see it as effort to talk to people? You see this idea of going up to someone and seeing if they like to hang out more or exchange number/accounts as something that is just going to take you out like a week of work?
>>84663299>"why the fuck is being a socially awkward dork worse than being an aggressive retard who actively causes troubles?"A "socially awkward dork" isn't an autist. They are so much worse than that. In fact most are aggressive retards who actively causes trouble they just are too stupid to see it like that.
>>84663334>Only a coward would see it as a privileged to have to sit and wait for something to happen.
>>84661913>only autist are smarter than themit's more that autists too dumb to fool. You can't bait someone if they can't see the bait.
>>84663339>most are aggressive retardsDeboonked, autists have lower violent crime rates on average compared to the *general population*, let alone compared to the average ASPD troglodyte who gets into a fight every other week and still gets laid.
>>84663344Anon you can be an aggressive retard and not have a police report on it. That is likely the only privilege they have is they can scream and throw their fists and hit someone and it's a good chance they will get put in a retard home service than jail.
>>84663334>That's a very midwit view of modus tollens anon.It's a simple look at behavior and incentives.>privileged of picking out the woman you wantYou don't "pick the woman you want" in the overwhelming majority of cases. Men aren't given anywhere near as much discriminatory choice as women. They don't have women throwing themselves at them, they don't get to place demands, they're expected to do shit to "earn" a girlfriend as if women had more value by default.>If the girl likes you but you show no interest, she can not pursue you, she just stayed caged by what is approaching herShe *can* pursue you, that's the thing. Women aren't locked into being the chased party. They just choose not to because then they lose privilege.>Only a coward would see it as a privileged to have to sit and wait for something to happen.Call it cowardice all you want, easier = better. And they don't *have* to sit and wait, they opt to because it's more comfortable.>there are women that do thatYes but we are talking about the macro scale here. It's *possible* to not chase as a man and luck out and still have a woman decide to break the mold and come after you, but you and I know that's an exception to the rule and not an advisable strategy.>you see it as effort to talk to people?Chasing after women isn't "just talk to them lol". You're expected to woo and charm and do shit like pay for dates and hand out gifts and entertain her and demonstrate all your value and skills while she sits there and judges you.
>>84663352>you can be an aggressive retard and not have a police report on itDoesn't mean anything, so can everyone else.>it's a good chance they will get put in a retard home service than jailSo can any other mental disorder, yet they actually have higher incidence rates of violent crime, unlike autists. And again, this isn't even "there's nothing wrong with autism", this is "why does objectively worse behavior in terms of measurable consequences not hamper your success as much as autism"?
>>84663364>You don't "pick the woman you want" in the overwhelming majority of cases.But when you get one, that's the end of the game for you. Just like how you'll earn money or status the rest of your life it's about getting good at things and then winning at them. >they don't get to place demandsThey don't once the girl wants them in return, both start to negotiate and if she wants you enough she'll adapt to you because you still have a choice to be there or leave. Again same with a job, friendships and everything else. The more you share the more you show that you think you are nothing and can bring nothing to someone else. >easier = betterby that logic why are you even posting here? >Yes but we are talking about the macro scale here.What is not macro about online dating apps? Are you just ignoring parts because you are a bot or are you just that caught up in what you want reality to be that you are just filtering points made? > You're expected to woo and charm and do shit like pay for dates and hand out gifts and entertain her and demonstrate all your value and skills while she sits there and judges you.That is a lot of projection mate, you only do what you want and the big thing is repeatedly trying, might be shit for a while but just like making money, or getting a high score in a game you'll get there if you stick what works for you and what you actually want rather than this weird cope of thinking you have to do all that shit. I agree you have to go up and ask them out but everything after that is suppose to be even seeing if you are compatible for long term cohabiting. If your goal is just sex look into sex services of your country or go to one that has them, because that's the only way your tirade posts make sense in the long run.
>>84663371>yet they actually have higher incidence rates of violent crimeTo be counted as psychopath, or sociopath you actually do have to commit a crime, no clinic worth it' salt is going to label you that until you commit a crime.
>>84663407>To be counted as psychopath, or sociopathThese aren't formal diagnoses. It's called antisocial personality disorder, and no, it doesn't require committing a crime. BTW BPD, NPD, ADHD and bipolar disorder all have above average violent crime rates too.
>>84663416Cool you got the dating info on all those too?
>>84663404>But when you get one, that's the end of the game for you. Just like how you'll earn money or status the rest of your life it's about getting good at things and then winning at them.This is a standard unilaterally imposed on men in relationships. They're the ones who have to try while women get to merely exist.>They don't once the girl wants them in returnYou're fundamentally misunderstanding the issue here. Yes, you can decide "I don't want this woman in particular", but that changes nothing about the fact that she has an endless line of options to pick from of men whose only prerequisite is that she says yes too, and all you have are faint hopes that some other woman gives you a chance.>you show that you think you are nothing and can bring nothing to someone elseAnother obvious issue being highlighted here. Men are the ones expected to "bring something".>by that logic why are you even posting here? Because I have a bad habit of wasting time on shitty imageboards, same as you, we should be friends.>What is not macro about online dating apps?Dating apps are the worst possible example you could invoke for this. They're everything I've listed cranked up to 11. It's a handful of women browsing through an endless supply of men exposing themselves like rotisserie chickens.>That is a lot of projectionNot really, no. Again, with the default attitude being that men chase and women select, this puts pressure on men to put in more effort and gives women more choice. It's as simple as any other system of incentives.
>>84663426For a few yeah.
>>84663460>Men are the ones expected to "bring something".Women are too, you are just confusing the initial asking out as the whole relationship, it's why I use the business and job allegories,at some point you should be seen as needed or more as that employer do to your skills and abilities, there were all those job applications but after you got the job there and should be a clear upward track to being needed in it on a level where the employer won't just want you gone. Same thing with romance, yes you have to ask women out, might be 1, might be 100, but after that phase is over you move into a system of getting a partner to work though things, have your kids, etc. The woman's advantage is just noise as even flipping it and they approach you, you still have comparable issues as things progress. Think of it like those nepo hires that make everything worse and are more miserable than if they just tried to earn a job they could do rather than rely on the entitlement. If you won't do the work, it'll never work out regardless of who makes the first move.
>>84663487can you give better than a low quality screengrab that could be fake?
>>84656898because there are plenty of moids without it. its a weakness.
>>84663548https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/1390257
>>84663543>it's why I use the business and job allegoriesJobs have a natural supply and demand limitation, there are simply more workers than employers, so there's an actual reason why getting a job is a pain in the ass and involves competition. The employer is in a privileged position because he's richer, simple as. Dating isn't really comparable, because there's no major supply and demand difference, there's only a cultural attitude that mimics it for no reason.>The woman's advantage is just noiseLmao no it absolutely isn't. What dude wouldn't fucking love to have women regularly approaching them, clearly demonstrating interest, asking them out, trying to impress them etc?>nepo hires that make everything worse and are more miserable than if they just tried to earn a job they could do rather than rely on the entitlementIf they were "more miserable", they wouldn't be choosing to accept the easy job where they get to have a career freely handed to them just for existing. Revealed preferences. I highly doubt you'd squander an unearned high paying job with low accountability if you were offered one, and even if you're "built differently", the majority of people wouldn't.>If you won't do the work, it'll never work outThe work is disproportionately offloaded to the male side in the majority of situations and this is digressing toward long term relationship stability long after commiting, not the immediate issues of the dating market that precede it. Things can change once a woman is locked down, but even if we assume it gets fair afterward, it doesn't eliminate the pro-female bias in dating dynamics.
>>84663641>Jobs have a natural supply and demand limitation, there are simply more workers than employers, so there's an actual reason why getting a job is a pain in the ass and involves competition. The employer is in a privileged position because he's richer, simple as. Dating isn't really comparable, because there's no major supply and demand difference, there's only a cultural attitude that mimics it for no reason.The system operates as it does, the question is why one effects you so poorly when it's no real difference in operation, the details are just a cope. > What dude wouldn't fucking love to have women regularly approaching themYou get board of things anon, it became normal. It's the only reason you fantasize about it, because it's abnormal. Otherwise you just be like women grumbling the ones you find attractive are not approaching you. >I highly doubt you'd squander an unearned high paying job with low accountability if you were offered oneBold of you to assume they see how they would and wouldn't fuck up. That's the error you are suffering, just like them you lack the means to see reality and just get stuck on what you think it is. The guy that fucks up an easy job did so because he couldn't see what he was doing. >The work is disproportionately offloaded to the male side in the majority of situationsThe work load is what you make of it. I went to gyms and pursed tomboys, I eventually got one. It wasn't work or rather I didn't fall apart when rejected or declined, I wouldn't pay for the first date and that filter a lot of bad picks. I would not have a great girlfriend if I played that game of doing all the things you think you need to do and I think the only reason you think you need to do it is because you want to impress her or you just want to get laid. That's all pro-female bias is, how easy is a one night stand. Everything else is what you put on yourself.
>>84664034>why one effects you so poorly when it's no real difference in operationBoth affect me? Except one has a practical reason born out of resource scarcity whilst the other is arbitrary.>You get board of things anon, it became normalNon-answer, everyone prefers being "bored" aka safe and satisfied over being worse off.>be like women grumbling the ones you find attractive are not approaching youThe fact that they find something to bitch about does not change how they are in a better position.>Bold of you to assume they see how they would and wouldn't fuck up"Fuck up" what, you mentioned nepo hires, it's fuck up proof.>The work load is what you make of it.No, there's a clear expectation for men to fall for le "provider" meme in most cases.>but I dated an exceptionCool, lucky you. I've had a low maintenance gf myself. You're still delusional if you pretend it's the norm. This shit happens by luck and with a ton of trial and error. I can't just sit there like a woman, do nothing, and have options present themselves to me. It's massively exhausting bullshit just to secure some mediocre companion and have to live in a Red Queen state 99% of the time.
