>>84659729
Early retirement to SEA is honestly the play. At least he knows which route to take. Surprising from a redditor

dark souls isnt that grindy that guy is larping

>>84659759
*rolls and swings sword then rolls again*

nothin personnel, kid

>>84659729
lol. those dudes cant fuck. simple as that.

>>84659750
Thats YouTube comments section. No way this kind of wrongthink would fly in the reddit thought control chamber.

>>84659729
It's annoying and unrewarding. Being a man defaults you to the "chaser" position which is a massive pain in the ass. Women put you through a gauntlet of bullshit and expect you to "earn" them as if they were giving something by merely allowing you to date them. Fuck that noise.

>>84659782
80 years after the allies won ww2 and this is what young womens brain activity has been reduced to.

>>84659782
you sound like a you're a pathetic slave. like that fish, the male one, who parasitize and then fuses with the larger female fish and then over time loses all his gonads. You're a gay parasite.

>>84659729
reminds me of a reddit post from back in the day on red pill where some guy asked when you are able to stop performing and stop having to pass the shit tests and nobody could answer

>>84659729
Woman are a forced meme. Being alone sucks but it's not *worse* than the human condition. Only BPDemons can't be alone.

>>84659817
without doubt, that is funny.

drugs>>>>women. more fun, more fulfilling, no bullshit, you get what you pay for.

>>84659817
That's the fun part, you don't, foids bitch about how mods "stop trying" when you don't act like a campaigning politician.

>>84659782
This its always the mans fault

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>>84659729
Im tired of the mgtow meme honestly. I've been hearing for decades now about how men are gonna go their own way and the women are going to suffer for it. Here we are in 2026 and women have more privilege than they have ever had in human history, and they literally live off simps giving them everything for free. It's just one of those things frustrated men keep saying is happening or will happen soon. Like how everything is just a year away from collapse, or the civil war is right around the corner, or sexbots and artificial wombs will end woman privilege. Then before you know it 50 years has gone by and literally everything has gotten worse except for women. I no longer even pretend that their is hope of escape from this nightmare. I just make do.

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>>84659750
>Early retirement to SEA is honestly the play.
You're a missing the bigger picture, this is the wrong take

SEA men feel the same about their woman. When you go over there with more money, different looks, etc you're just increasing your value RELATIVE to the native population, but women's hypergamy and god awful nature remains the same, and even if you move you are not and will not be immune to it

>>84660227
The woman and man situation is literally a perfect parallel to the jew and Christian situation. It is actually insane.
>women literally believe themselves to be the chosen gender
>the boyim are the subhuman cattle meant to milked
>a lot of women don't even shy away from publicly admitting this anymore
>yet men simp more than ever for them
It's just like the Christian worshipping the jew even after they say to their face they are pathetic cattle and hold nothing but contempt for them

>>84659759
came here to post this

you suck if you have to grind to beat a souls game, sure there's some fights that are tougher and will take more attempts, but if you have to powerlevel through it you may just suck

>>84660255
Sounds like an American problem through and through

>>84660194
Because despite what they say, they cant live without women. At least some women stick to their convictions and become cat ladies and wine aunts and don't bother with men anymore.

>>84659729
>>84659796
>Thats YouTube comments section
post link

>>84660306
>some women stick to their convictions and become cat ladies and wine aunts and don't bother with men anymore.
Men do this too but they basically become disentangled from the universal wavefunction when it happens. Completely invisible and unnoticed.

>>84660255
>the boyim are the subhuman cattle meant to milked
This made kek but also made me sad

It's true. I wish we could overcome this

they never showed or reciprocated interest when I was younger. I hinted at interest, always leaving an out as to not make them uncomfortable. That romantic interest was never reciprocated at the time. I wasn't even considered an option as a potential relationship candidate to the girls. I was a ghost to them or at most friend-zoned. As a result, I never tried dating. Why would I market worthless goods on the market when there is no buyer?

I received some passing interest in terms of a hook-up which I declined as I wanted to date a girl first, or at least only sleep with a girl I knew well enough. I mostly didn't want to embarrass myself. I always detested hook-up culture and things like Tinder. I was never unattractive. Any wedding I'd go to just made me more self-conscious as I would always get pestered about not having a date. I never had a real reason. I ended up just asking bluntly when asked - "you tell me" to just cease the inquiry or maybe get some passable advice.

now I am older and stable financially. I have some assets. I am largely invisible. I pulled inward and isolated over the years. I watched everyone I know slowly get married and have kids on their own, while I had never even held hands with a woman. Made me realize something was fundamentally wrong with myself, and successes in other areas of life don't explain away the lack of any interest whatsoever. i'm sure I could put myself out there and get passing interest by women who realize their clock is ticking and want to settle down. At this point, I don't want to be relegated to the role as a beta provider in that fashion. It's only assets to lose now. The only real interest shown to me now has been by a woman already divorced at her age. I see no real value in her attraction if she already devalued marriage to get divorced in less than 2 years (not that she got anything from it).

never really wanted mgtow or anything. I just wanted one woman to express interest that I also was attracted to.

>>84659817
red pill guys are retarded and they are specifically going for idiot women who they have to constantly perform red pill bullshit to keep them around, and they cant do that forever because its exhausting. theyre a bunch of larpers. thats why the black pill has completely over taken red pill bullshit because red pill is entirely performative

>>84659729
Modern women are selfish short sighted demons.

>t. Married guy

>>84660322
look up on youtube:

"i just look at women and I'm exhausted"

by Marshall Brockway

>>84659729
There is no guarantee of vagina. Make women legally liable for not giving up hole

>>84659729
Men are litteral trash incapable of doing the bare minimum

>>84660893
Women make littoral trash owing to their being the majority of retail purchases of cheap shit from china but you already knew that faggot

>>84660893
The "bare minimum" in question is being born 6'2+ and making six figures by the time they're 30

>>84660930
And that's bad because?
Not our fault if men can't even do the absolute minimum

>>84660344
*hugs*

You'll get the last laugh when they start facing gender, age discrimination and a limited skillset and are forced to work until the day they die.

Find joy in taking annual solo trips to other countries until retirement and watch them seethe because they were too picky or relied too heavily on OnlyFans for income.

>>84659759
I think he means you have to keep trying and trying rather than grinding for levels by going after weaklings

All we have to do is remove women's rights. That's it.

>>84660996
If you think it's any better in places where women have fewer rights you're in for a shock
>I'm the princess and you're a walking ATM
>What do you mean you can't afford it aren't you a man
>I only spread my legs for procreation and nothing else
>I'll never cook or clean or iron or do any chores, hire a live-in maid for me
>I won't raise my kids despite not having a job, hire a nanny for me
It's so fucking sad you see it everywhere.
The mom walking around shopping while the kid trails behind with the nanny because he's bonded with her instead if his own parents. I even knew some guys who spoke the nanny's language before the local one bc that's just how kids are raised these days

>>84661039
Sounds like you know someone who tried to settle down in Thailand

Shit ton of reasons why. Not that they apply to all women, but at least enough of them apply to the VAST VAST majority of women that makes the experience very inconvenient at best and a hellscape at worst. Doesn't help that I'm short as hell despite being a white male in the USA, and don't have a godlike upper body.

I'd rather either work on myself until I get to a point where the experience would become more enjoyable than tedious (i.e. better musculature, decent finances, a career path lined out and pretty much guaranteed for at least a decade)... or wait until I see the undesirable majority of my options fall off my radar to make finding the pleasant people no longer inconvenient.

I still want a wife, a family, kids. I still want a relationship with loyalty and commitment and nobody between us. It's definitely not feasible right now, though. I could explain why, but most people would either disagree vehemently and insult me, or simply nod their heads, instead of asking "well how can we fix this problem, perceived or actualized?" and taking the necessary steps towards such a thing.

Women are too mentally ill and endlessly enabled by every facet of society.

>>84659797
The disgusting thing is that they're freely giving it to other guys that don't even want it. That's the real scam

>>84661039
>fewer
Doesn't do shit, the solution is no rights.

>>84659729
not worth it. I simply don't want or need it anymore.

>>84659729
Low effort engagement bait. Kys niggrr

>>84660411
Based Marshall enjoyer
There's a series of thumbnails on his videos where he starts looking more demented each one and its amazing

>>84659729
dark souls is not about grinding its about getting good if you struggle youre a casual who needs to get good

>>84660996
Brother just make adultery illegal and abolish alimony and child support children born out of wedlock.

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>>84659729
There's no point in dating a woman if you're just looking to get your dick wet
They'll just come up to you in bars and yap, just nod and maybe make a pop culture reference and you'll fuck that night

My stint into "night life" just made me hate women when I was a romantic dude

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Why would i pay extra for something others got in better quality, and iwthout charge?
I deserve better.
I do better.and i pass on those whores.

>>84660194
If this were true, we wouldn't have constant media concerns about men checking out from dating, work, education, and even showings hostilities toward women.

>>84659729
I didn't give up I was never allowed to try

>>84660954
>And that's bad because?
Because only 1% of men satisfy this requirement and 100 women can't marry 1 man.

>>84661307
Your aren't going anywhere without proper gear.

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I realised I don't have to date, just wait

>>84661559
Better than dating a broke loser. Hell even staying single is better than dating an incel

>>84661576
hunnie we're in late stage capitalism, most people are poor and will be poorer as time goes on.

>>84660364
Drop the matrix, embrace tradition. Repeal the 19th.

>>84660194
Although I sympathize, and also think MGTOW is a meme, better characterized as the men who got sent than the men who went, there is an inkling of truth to be found amongst the farce.

Western men just don't give a shit anymore. That's the death knell for any society. We have convinced ourselves, for the nth time, that pax romana will last forever. The Western hegemon is yet another thousand year reich. Like the others, it will fall.

In reality, we're nearing the end of the decline, and collapse is imminent. Look to the Roman census timeline. When men stop marrying and the government panics and enacts bachelor taxes, that's terminal. That's end-stage. That's behavioural sink. The real issue isn't men going their own way - it's men doing nothing.

I'm sure ChatGPT, drones, and feminists will hold the line, though. Maybe importing more brown people from cultures that completely disavow Western liberalism will, somehow, sustain it forever.

>>84660194
MGTOW isn't a meme. it's more popular that ever, the label just isnt there anymore because of the whole "manosphere" shit spewed into it. Overall I remember they did a big survey on r/teens about men who aren't dating and why. A fuck ton of them just said they want to grind and do their own thing.
Simping is a whole different kind of subject. I had an ex who had dudes who were married to guys who were out-right single and actually decent looking, give her money for a retarded online findom relationship. the single guys were chunking money just for online attention.
Cant generalize on a few people on you see on the internet. Simping though is a big ass problem that will never get fixed with how easy things are for it to happen. The only party that hates simping is other men who don't like it, everyone else doesn't give much of a fuck.

SEX ROBOTS THOUGH? yeah thats the fucking future right there. that shit will come out as some point. its hard to say pricing or how advanced they will get. it'll be around 10+ before we start seeing crazy shit with the rate it's going.

reminder that *they* want you to stop trying, they want you to hate the other gender

>>84661885
"They" didn't force women to become whores

>>84659729
Modern women are selfish demons. A man will love a woman unconditionally but women don't feel love the same way men do. They only love things that can give them things. Society is going to collapse because social media has exposed women for the demons they are and Men are noticing.

>>84661576
In the modern system thats correct, however thats only because women are subsidized by the labor of men they dont want to date. Without them dating these men though, they'll check out of society and there will be no one to do actual work for the daycare jobs women work to leech off of. So then we all start starving and instead of dating one average man they're getting raped by a pack of below average men. Which you could argue satisfies their evolutionary psychology more, but we're still hung up on the idea that thats a bad thing.

>>84661920
Force is the wrong term. If I give a child access to heroine Im not forcing them to become a heroine addict but Im certainly setting them up for failure. Women have gone wild and insane, and you rightfully should be disgusted by that and no one is obligated to hitch to a wreck, but post judaica when we re-establish the institutions of society you shouldn't hate them for acting retarded. Most people are retarded, hence how we got here.

>>84661968
A normal child isn't interested in heroine

>>84659796
>YouTube
Doesn't youtube automatically censor all wrongthink by default? I thought even posting about foids gets you perma-shadowbanned there

>>84662030
It does. You say whore, slut, foid, femcel, bitch, ect, you get shadowbanned. Every comment I make on most videos gets deleted instantly.

>>84660306
They still bitch about men though

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>>84661808
>and also think MGTOW is a meme
You banned MGTOW term from all mainstream platforms (tens thousands popular accounts banned) and you thought your won.
But MGTOW won anyway.

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>>84660194
I told this story to a depressed coworker who is in a really tight spot - wanted to give up on life.

A neighborhood cat that I had known since she was a kitten brought her own kitten to me one day. It was horribly ill, I figured it may or may not live through the night but ultimately decided to let it live or die on its own thinking it had a good chance at recovering. I was wrong, the next day I found it dead and I felt shitty over it. I feel like it's a lesson I keep learning and relearning the hard way every time I forget it.

Unless you act quickly and decisively things will continue to get worse. If you've acted and things still got worse you did NOT go far enough fast enough. Simple as.

>>84662199
>male suicide at an all time high
>female advantages in home ownership and education at an all time high
>male participation in sexual relationships at an all time low
>females are still fucking, just not the men who got sent
>reserve wage gap emerging
I suppose we'll call it a pyrrhic victory, although I'm not sure what you won?

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>>84659729
Have you seen the amount of hate and vitriol spewed by females on the internet?
Laughing at male loneliness epidemic and wanting us to go die in wars.

Females are fucking evil man, why would ever want to associate with such being?

>>84662047
1984 tier shit man, hate how these big companies monopolize a platform and then enshittify it like that everytime

>>84662274
Welcome to the modern world. Freedom of speech is being taken away from us. 4chan is probably the last social media site that allows it.

>>84662279
Instagram still has some freedom of speech as well

Not sure for how long it will last desu

>>84662417
Yeah but I called someone a faggot on there and my account got suspended for a week. Then I deleted the app because I had no use for it aside from watching videos of black girls twerking

>>84659729
Dark Souls is not a grindy game at all. Level ups are incredibly minor and gear is soft capped to materials available in the area meaning grinding is basically pointless. Hours of grinding might afford you one more hit against a boss.

Should have said Final Fantasy or some shit

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>>84662244
>although I'm not sure what you won?
>MGTOW specifically advocate for men to avoid marriage and committed romantic relationships with women.


>What do you get out of it?
>Just that. Out of it.

>>84662479
>actually, I avoided the grapes
Good for you, my vulpine friend.

>>84662492
Well it was entire point of the MGTOW, isn't it?
And MGTOW won completely. See zoomers marriage rates above, marriage is crashing with no survivors in US, at best only 30% of zoomers will marry.
And the beauty of it? There is literally nothing you can do about that.

>>84662502
This is borderline nigger mentality, anon. You're claiming the work of second-wave feminists. Dismantling the insitution of marriage wasn't your work - it was de Beauvoirs.
>There is literally nothing you can do about that.
True enough, I suppose.

>>84662543
>Dismantling the insitution of marriage wasn't your work - it was de Beauvoirs.
But trads cuck continued to ing to hollow shell of dismantled marriage and still insisted for men to participate in it even if it sucks now, because "le real men" or something.
MGTOW movement was about leaving this shell behind completely.

>>84662555
Fair enough. Laudable, even. I hope it works out for you guys.

>>84662543
you operate under a retarded delusion that females have any say or any power. They don't. Men decide and always did. Men are the gatekeepers of marriage too, and always has been. Dumb female.

>>84662578
You've watched a bit too much Andrew Wilson, so I'll just blow force doctrine out for you:

The ox can maul the farmer to death. So can the hounds. They don't do this, because they are slaves. You are also a slave to the feminist hegemon. You are utterly powerless.

Men have lost, and your delusional reframing of a retreat to a victory is just cope.
>we decided not to eat the grapes!
Good for you. Shame you're starving.

>>84662578
Men gatekeeping marriage is an interesting idea but cucks and simps are willing to be the betabuxx guy who steps up for marriage for so many women.

>>84662595
>delusions
every time
>>84662599
true, but there will be less and less of them as the time goes on. We have dem stats.

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>>84659729
Because women have made themselves inaccessible to 50% if men, and that number increases each years because of female radicalisation. Women are becoming insane, extremists. Robot Waifu's may be the only solution to prevent civilisation collapse.

https://youtu.be/yVIRcnlRKF8?si=LclErSHRuJXUa7wW

>>84659729
They're Chadsexual and not actually attracted to 90% of men. Would you work at job where you aren't getting paid?

>>84662611
Cope is a delusion, anon. "Going your own way" as you're marched off in a specific direction following a total defeat is pure copium.

Ironically, we've been here before. We're approaching the bachelor tax arc of our societal decline. You can keep "going your own way" - for a small fee. Maybe 20% of your possessions and earnings, as Rome demanded?

>>84662599
>cucks and simps are willing to be the betabuxx guy who steps up for marriage for so many women.
See stats above. >>84662199
It's ended for people born after 2000s.
People make common mistake of projecting of older generations behavior and demographic statistics on current year when it changed drastically.

>>84662643
If you work a job in the United States, half your money already goes to boomers, niggers, Israel, defense for European countries so they can spend their own money on giving free shit to their Arab invaders, and African countries so each woman can keep her 13 kids from dying of AIDS. All while your masters are cheating the system and living like kings. Life is a humiliation ritual.

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>>84662643
>>84662643
>Ironically, we've been here before. We're approaching the bachelor tax arc of our societal decline.
It never worked in the past and will never will. It will only alienate young men against current order of seething foids and boomers. Good.

>>84662662
True. It's hard to frame such cuckoldry as a victory, and though it is tempting to laugh that rhetoric off as cope, I can't help but suspect a more sinister motivation.

I'd rather we be accurate and honest about the mess we're in.
>>84662692
Also true, it heralded the collapse. That didn't mean Roman men won, though I'm sure more than a few of them huffed the same copium we're huffing now.

Consider this: if I gift you a house, and then I burn it to the ground, that's sad - but easy come, easy go. If your family spent hundreds of years building up a home, pouring their blood, sweat, and tears into the foundation, laying each new brick with passion and precision, and they handed that to you, and I burned it to the ground, is that the same thing? How could you walk away from that?

>>84662643
>We're approaching the bachelor tax arc
>>84662692
>It never worked in the past and will never will
We are technically already in a "bachelor tax" era, most governments throw tax benefits at people who marry and/or have children, which is functionally the same as being taxed for not doing those things.

>>84662760
That's just the government trying to bribe couples into having children and it obviously isn't going to work. There will be fewer and fewer people who qualify for those benefits.

The super breeders in poverty don't pay enough in taxes to qualify for the benefit.

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It's mostly women who gave up on relationships since they no longer need them, but the men who opted out did so because they know they'll never be loved.

>>84662643
>Cope is a delusion, anon. "Going your own way" as you're marched off in a specific direction
this is just noise
>a total defeat
write the following words down: you are not the one, and will never be the one to define what is a victory and what is a defeat.
>pure copium.
you're free to cope as much as you want
>Ironically, we've been here before. We're approaching the bachelor tax arc of our societal decline.
society is long dead, otherwise there is a slight chance I might have given a shit.
>You can keep "going your own way" - for a small fee.
you come up to a tree and call it a tree in hope of causing a negative reaction. it has always been a tree. it always did all the tree things. long before your irrelevant ass and will continue doing them long after your irrelevant ass is gone. you are retarded.
>Maybe 20% of your possessions and earnings, as Rome demanded?
what are taxes? gee, I wonder. you're braindead.

>>84662864
That was a truly embarrassing read, anon.

>>84660364
Hey buddy, AWALT

>>84662913
>AWALT
all women always lick tungsten?

>>84662454
I grinded those gay clams for twinkling titanite the last time I played ds1, other than upgrade material thoever grinding is very much optional in most dork soul games desu

>>84661808
> that's terminal. That's end-stage. That's behavioural sink. The real issue isn't
If you're going to complain about ChatGPT then have the decency to not use AI to type your post

>>84663089
>anyone who types well is using AI
Midwit exposed. Explains why you interpreted my post as complaining about AI, rather than pointing out ChatGPT isn't going to repopulate society and defend it.

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>>84662799
>men who opted out did so because they know they'll never be loved.
Yea, this is me. I'm not in the top 10% of male attractiveness so any "love" a woman will ever have for me will be an act. All she will really want is money or what material things I can give.

>>84659782
projecting real hard here

>>84659729
In my experience women largely aren't serious about dating long term. It probably sounds like a meme because
>haha everyone says guys don't commit
But it's true every girl I was with wasn't ready for something over a year, didn't want kids, wanted to "see the world" or focus on their career, different shit every time. Women might have internalized that commitment meme about guys and tried to own it or something idk. Maybe I just date shitty women.

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>>84663105
>blah blah blah
*yawn* ai slut faggot sybau I ain't reading ur bot shit

>>84663186
Women project their inability to mature on men. The "men dont want to settle down" stereotype literally comes from young men fresh in college. Yea, when you are a broke college kid of course you dont want to start a family and want to have fun, but typically men get tired of partying and shit by their mid 20s and want to settle down. Women on the other hand will want to party, slut around, and travel to "find themselves" up until their 40s or 50s and even when they give it up, they constantly live in depression because those days are gone

>>84661920
Actually, they did. Though force ain't the word, coerce perhaps

I think the largest problem, which no one seems to take into account, is that everything manmade is built and maintained by men. You just have to look out of the window, everything is by men. When they nope out in large enough numbers society will collapse. Women seem to enjoy it though since their goal is to turn all western countries into exciting third world ones when you look at their voting patterns, so they won.

>>84663105
Short snippy faggot sentences aren't typing well, they're typing like an insufferable cunt, and that's what LLMs are trained on so LLMs talk like that too.

>>84659729
Literally AI generated post

>>84659729
Men realized they need to improve, but men are shit so they just gave up and decided to live miserably.

Retarded decision from them, as expected. Men are retarded.

i want a virgin for wife
no virgin wife no dating
no pussy no work
dont bother calling i wont pick up if society needs anything

Its pretty fucked up how a guy can wait his whole life to finally land a career that makes women see him as eligible and the only ones hes gonna get are land whales with children, debt, and criminal history

>>84664698
you know im short and im doing well off from stealing guys crypto wallets in the past. im already instantly filtered by most women on dating apps. im already getting friendzoned/rejected irl from friends trying to get me hook ups. cant tell me much to improve when im already better off than most people in the world. Yet I know girls who have insecurities so far up their ass, they take an issue that they're already so short another short dude being with them is too much.

i dont need to improve. women arent the prize pick anymore. you are 100% right we gave up because we're miserable. it doesnt matter because women have their options with Chad. Being singles in your 30s as a woman means you got shit taste in men. I won't bother even when I hit my 30s to date someone my age.
i'll rather have my option with robo-waifu when they start dropping.

>>84664698

You're worthless. No one is grinding away to become anything for you. You're not worth any amount of time or effort. You're just an insufferable bitchy piece of shit.

and then there are us two perfectly happy being neets together and never having kids. women who don't play vidya + get kids always end up as single moms so i never want to be like that.

>>84664698
so true sister.
Where are my violent werewolf vampire billionaire men who want to date me a 20 year old from the midwest? I deserve my violent billionaire 6ft8 werewolf vampire husband.

>>84664698
Good. Vague nonsense like "men need to improve" is a complete nothing statement and should be ignored.

I'm a pedo. i have no chance with any morally good woman. i have an actual excuse for giving up

>>84659729
I'm too poor to attract the materialistic gender. Even if they like me today, they're going to eventually backstab me once they see their friends' husbands buying houses and fancy cars.

>>84660194
>artificial wombs will end woman privilege
this will happen, but its going to take at least 20 years. 2050 we'll probably have public womb clinics where you can have a child just by paying for it

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>>84659729
I hate women like you wouldn't believe. Elliot had something good in his hands and wasted it away. Had he killed more than just 2 cunts maybe people would have taken the whole thing more seriously.