Robots and Fembots are you for or against abortion?Have you had one?
>>84694136For abortion. Never had one.
>>84694136For abortion; no logical reason to be against it. Never had one.
>>84694136Why do non white women are obsessed with white babies?
>>84694174cuz u gheynow gibs leddit gold
>>84694136For because life sucks and the fewer people are forced into it the better, though i dislike it when feminists make it about women's freedom or whatever dumb shit
>>84694136what the fuck. i'm 80% sure i dated this girl for about a month a few years back
>>84694136I'm for only when it's rape, but if a woman wants to have sex unprotected and not deal with the consequences afterwards that's when i have a problem. Can't have your cake and eat it too
brown women when white man
>>84694136yes. go ahead and call me a murderer or whatever, but I was broke, depressed, and living in a moldy apartment. bringing a kid into that would have been the real crime.
>>84694723So you punish the child for something not of its doing?>>84694842Heard of adoption?>>84694147Logical reason like not killing a human?
>>84695002>So you punish the child for something not of its doing?Why do you assume not being made to go through life is a punishment?
>>84695017Absolutely true. Why don't we walk down to South Central, look at all the 1-5 year olds, see what is ahead of them and shoot them now?
>>84695105Why not indeed, better safe than sorry
>"fembot">"femcel"just say whore or low value woman
>>84695002>Heard of adoption?yeah because the foster care system is a total utopia. a lifetime of bouncing between group homes would have been great for their mental health. did them a favor keeping the record at a clean 0-0 honestly
>>84695206I mean, i agree that it is better for the kid to not be born than to be given a shitty life, butWhy didn't you just keep your legs closed, you fucking whore?
>>84695228>Why didn't you just keep your legs closed, you fucking whore?what was she supposed to do?>please fuck me raw>please dont cum in my pussy
>>84695238Why do people like you always talk about this stuff as if having baby-making sex doesn't require active participation on your part?>Oh, it just happened tehehe what was i supposed to do?
I'm for abortion. Never had one.
>>84694136abortion is the saturn painting but for whoresdevour the child to live the life you want even if the child is a product of your own actions
>>84694136i am a fembot and obviously pro-abortion. i've never had one because i am a virgin but i would not be comfortable having sex with men at all if i did not have the option to abort a possible pregnancy. retards think this means being a whore. like i said i am a virgin, i could be married and what if the fetus has a disability? what if it's multiples? what if i already had a child and don't want any more? what if i just had a child recently and want to wait longer? these are all reasons why regular ass women get abortions in long term relationships. no reason to force keeping it. better aborted than an unwanted baby.
>>84695206>yeah because the foster care system is a total utopiaMaybe learn the difference between foster care and adoption before speaking?
>>84695317Kek, no response. Pro-choicers NEVER have a response to this, because they know they can't refute that
>>84695495So punish/kill the child because of your failures?
>>84694136Why did there have to be a difference? Thirstyfags have ruined this place.
>>84695317>active participationIt doesn't need active participation. It requires thinking, and neither sex does that. People continually say guys think with their cocks. Do women think with their vaginas?
>>84695509yes? oh yeah, it's such a punishment to not be born to a life where you are unwanted lmao. why do you want failures to have kids? uh oh think about the embryo's feelings guys. you're a joke. i don't pretend to moralfag about clumps of cells getting flushed down the toilet. i am alive, i already exist and my convenience is more important than a zygote. most of humanity agrees.
>>84694136Pro in the following cases 1. Rape2. Disability 3. Mother's life at risk4. Subhumans Simple guide to avoid unwanted pregnancy 1. Stop spreading your legs and let a cohort of men go inside you.2. Only do this with a man you intend to marry/is married and with whom you lost you virginity. Simple! Yet westfoids fail at such a basic task.
fembots get pregnant from chad and tyrone then abort all the time like typical BPD trash
>>84695540And you are the one to make that decision? You decide, in advance, that a child will be unwanted... by ANYONE?
>>84695540>oh yeah, it's such a punishment to not be born to a life where you are unwantedExactly. We have too many fucked up people around as it is.
>>84695654You're right. Once we finish with the babies, let's go for the retards, gimps, elderly, etc... Let's get them all!
>>84695495>>84695540See >>84695596Stop spreading your legs if you don't want to kill babies, you fucking whore
>>84695540>i don't pretend to moralfag about clumps of cellsYou're a clump of cells too, you whore, literally every single living being is. Since you're just a clump of cells, who about you let a nigger rape and kill you afterwards? How does that sound?>Nuuuu but muh rightsOh, so now suddenly you care about a life being taken? Fucking whore, western sluts like you are why society is declining
>>84694136I hope the white man did the right thing and is taking care of this sweet girl
>>84695639duh? who else should lmao? the clump of cells itself? you? were you going to carry the zygote for me? then shut the fuck up. if i have to carry and birth it, it is 1000% my decision and nobody else. the defective pro-lifer brain cannot seem to answer simple ass questions.>>84695728are you retarded? i am literally a virgin. when i get married, if i don't want a baby, i will get an abortion. simple as. that's what most abortions look like, not "whore spreading their legs". >>84695746nobody besides schizos as nigger dick obsessed as you thinks that
>>84695754>With our 1st babyImplies he is stuck around and put more babies in her.
>>84695794>duh? who else should lmao? the clump of cells itself?So "clump of cells" is the only thing? When your grandfather is sitting in assisted living as a "clump of cells", I hope you're going over there to take him out.>if i have to carry and birth it, it is 1000% my decision and nobody else.what happens if you "birth it" and life isn't the way you want? kill the child then?
>>84695794>he clump of cells itself? you? were you going to carry the zygote for meIt's a living thing.
>>84695794Nobody else is gonna carry it because we weren't the ones who had unprotected sex. Retarded cunt
>>84695878are you being obtuse on purpose comparing living, existing people to embryos? yes you are. they could not be any more different. btw even in real life there is a hierarchy and your examples who are dependent on others get treated like shit for a reason.>>84695883a lot of living things get put down for being inconvenient quite often.>>84695891so no one should have sex unless there will be a pregnancy? lmao good luck convincing your fellow moids with that
>>84695957>so no one should have sex unless there will be a pregnancy?Foids can't be real istg, condoms are a thing you dumb whore
>>84695983shit happens, you don't have to get pregnant just because you had unprotected sex. especially in serious relationships
>>84695957>are you being obtuse on purpose comparing living, existing people to embryosOh damn, i forgot embryos are just a figment of the human imagination! Surely not something tangible, definitely notYou aways have to resort to fallacies because you know you can't win this. If you're willing to kill an embryo because it has no agency, by the same logic you should be willing to kill old people or retards in vegetative state. Be consistent for once, foid. I know it's hard for your kind to achieve such state of mind, but i ask just this once
>>84695878i do genuinely think the geriatric should be euthanized, it's a two-fold kindness. would alleviate their suffering as old people in pain who can't take care of themselves (in nature they would die-off much sooner) and it would alleviate the economic burden of having a massive generation of old people hoarding wealth and only spending it on medical/ end-of-life care and inject that money into the economy where it can make life better for the young and so boost fertility rates
>>84696005copper iuds exist and other more effective methods of contraception that work even with cumming inside
>>84694794Yeah because he stayed
>>84696008i don't really care about keeping vegetables and senile citizens alive. are you taking care of them? no? guessed so. the difference between all your unrelated examples and an abortion is... the zygote is not born yet! so who gives a fuck. why are you pretending moralfag about something not even its mother wants? i care more about that living, breathing woman than the clump of cells in her uterus. she is more entitled to her convenience than the zygote is to being born.>>84696035abortion is just another method of birth control like all of those
I think we should allow abortion but we delay it by 10 or so years and then the mother has to slit her childs throat.
>>84694136for. it saves the lives of mothers who are dying more and more since its criminalization.never had.
>>84694136For it in all cases, because there's already too many of us and we're killing the planet and will eventually cause a mass-extinction event. We're like cancer cells multiplying in a space that is not able to sustain us resource-wise without destroying itself.Also most people having kids are fucking stupid and in no way equipped to give their kids a good upbringing. Just look at how many parents allow their kids to consume brainrot from a young age. We are going to keep getting dumber and dumber and I worry I'll reach old age and need medical care I'll only be able to get from some brainrotted gen alpha retard "doctor" who'll have to ask Chad Gippity about how to treat me.
>>84695206>foster care systemAre you stupid or intentionally trying to misdirect? Do know how many newborns are up for adoption? You would have to wait years to adopt a baby.>>84695540>clumps of cellsYou are a clump of cells, retard.>i am alive, i already existA fetus is alive. It also, obviously, exists. Holy fuck, you're stupid.>>84694136Vaguely for, mostly for practical reasons. Specifically, it can be justified using a conventional self-defense framework in the case of rape, and it would impossible to arbitrate this legally, so I'd have to allow it.With that said, it is infanticide. It necessiarly involves killing a human that also happens to be your child, and I think women should be shamed, and maybe permentantly marked for doing this. Ideally, we should spit on women in the street if they've had an abortion.
>>84696640Oh boy, another obstetrically illiterate retard to educate.The abortion bans haven't lead to deaths through anything other than gross negligence from clinicians who are stupid to understand the laws pertaining to their practice. Every case concluded in the US so far has led to an outcome of no fault or malpractice; not a single adverse outcome has been tied to the law itself, because the law does not prevent treatment for ectopics, nor does it prevent the delivery of a child in emergent situations.You are a fucking retard who gets their information from huffpo, or - god forbid - ACOG. If the latter, ask yourself if you would be stupid enough to also take the tabacco industry seriously when their in-house physicians claimed smoking did not cause cancer.
If you think a clump of cells in a womb is in any way comparable to an elderly person, coma patient, or newborn baby you are retarded and...You need to slap yourself.
>>84696725>all human>all alive>all with a prognosis towards consciousnessThis is how they are similar. Now you must prove how they differ in a way that alters their moral value.You won't be able to do this, because you are a fucking retard. You need to kill yourself.
>>84696743>all with a prognosis towards consciousness Is a clump of cells currently conscious? Was it conscious before the abortion? Has the mother given birth to this clump of cells? Is the clump of cells an individual?No?Then this entire post is complete nonsense.
>>84696684how is it an infant if it is not even born lmao retard>>84696725>bunch of unwanted cells in a woman's uterus that she wants to get rid of>living, born human beingpro-lifers: OH MY GOSHHH I CANNOT TELL THE DIFFERENCE!!!>>84696743because it isn't born and the woman doesn't want it to be, hope this helps
>>84696781>Is a clump of cells currently conscious?This applies to the coma patient - and a sleeping human.>Was it conscious before the abortion?See above + google prognosis.>Has the mother given birth to this clump of cells? Does a child born through c-section have no moral value?>Is the clump of cells an individual?Categorically - yes.Are you actually this fucking stupid, or are you trolling? Make a few more special exceptions. Here - I'll save us both an hour and ask you right now: What qualifies a human for moral consideration? My qualifier is quite simple: Being human is sufficient. Let's see how convoluted and inconsistent yours is.
>>84696802>how is it an infantI didn't actually say this. In any case, infant simply means "without speech".A fetus cannot talk.>because it isn't bornSo what.> and the woman doesn't want it to beSo what.Are you actually saying a woman's whim gives a person more value? Hahahaha, you're so fucking stupid.Listen, I'll shoot the shit with you, but ultimately, we're banning abortion. Hope this helps x
>>84696809>What qualifies a human for moral consideration? being born. you know, something that will never happen to clumps of cells that get flushed down the toilet like a pile of shit. if it's not even born and not even its mother wants it who gives a fuck?
>>84696842>So what.that's a huge fucking difference between a fetus and all the offtopic irrelevant examples you gave>Are you actually saying a woman's whim gives a person more value? Hahahaha, you're so fucking stupid.it does when it is nothing but a clump of cells in her body>Listen, I'll shoot the shit with you, but ultimately, we're banning abortion. Hope this helps xnot my issue because i don't live in a shithole like america where the president forces women to give birth to unwanted fetuses so he can rape and eat them
>>84696859>being born.Ah, I see. Is it coming out the magical vagina, or does c-section count as well? Genuine question.Is there a reason you've asspulled this specific event as the qualifier? Can I put mifepristone in a pregnant woman's food and cause her to miscarry? Why not? It's not born, so who gives a shit?This low-brow farce of an attempt at "reason" is the reason we're banning abortion so easily. Can you at least try to come up with something better?
>>84696809>This applies to the coma patient - and a sleeping human.Nope. The brain structures required for conscious experience do not form until around the 24th to 28th week of gestation>Was it conscious before the abortion?And you ignored this. Very convenient.>Does a child born through c-section have no moral value?Give me a reason why I should consider a clump of cells to be the same as a child born through c-section.>Categorically - yes.Give me a rational reason why we should consider a fetus an individual equal to that of a coma patient or elderly person before it has even gained consciousness.And I'm against late term abortion.If you can't, I'm not going to reply further.>B-But muh feels Because I said so!
>>84696895>Can I put mifepristone in a pregnant woman's food and cause her to miscarryYou retard. That's being done without her consent. Lmfao
>>84696893>that's a huge fucking differenceWhat's the material difference? Do you understand what an analogue is? How would you feel if you did not eat breakfast this morning, anon?>it does when it is nothing but a clump of cells in her bodyYou are a clump of cells. Why is location relevant? If I stitched you into the body of a fat person, do you cease to have moral value? >not my issueSame, I don't really give a fuck what thirdies do. Go ahead, kill your offspring. Kill yourself, while you're at it.
>>84696895>Ah, I see. Is it coming out the magical vagina, or does c-section count as well? Genuine question.what's up with these irrelevant ass hypotheticals? like what does this have to do with abortion lmao>Is there a reason you've asspulled this specific event as the qualifier? ??? lmao the specific asspulled event in question being birth. they are not born. >Can I put mifepristone in a pregnant woman's food and cause her to miscarry? Why not? It's not born, so who gives a shit?well it would be a crime against the woman who is a living person, no one gives a shit about the zygote besides moralfagging fags like you who pretend to care about the clump of cells' feelings>This low-brow farce of an attempt at "reason" is the reason we're banning abortion so easily. Can you at least try to come up with something better?you amerimutts are banning it because you want to rape and eat these abandoned babies, nothing to be proud of
>>84696900>Nope. The brain structures required for conscious experienceGoogle prognosis. Also, really quick, anon - I just need you to cede on third-trimester abortion, and half of second-trimester. It's just a small concession, it's really no big deal!>I'm against late term abortion.Fantastic.>And you ignored this. Very convenient.Google prognosis.>Give me a reason why I should consider a clump of cells to be the same as a child born through c-section.They are not the same, they are the same category - human. I don't really want to give you a undergraduate lesson on ontology, so just get ChatGPT to explain this to you. Just copy paste what I'm saying into it, it will explain the rest.>Give me a rational reason why we should consider a fetus an individual equal to that of a coma patient or elderly personBecause they are human, and their prognosis is the same - consciousness. If the prognosis for a comatose patient is that they will never regain consciousness, we treat them differently - namely, we declare them dead and withdraw life support. Do you disagree with that distinction? If you don't disagree with that distinction, you agree with prognosis a primary factor. You also agree present consciousness is NOT required for consideration. You are asspulling an additional premise to make a special exception - "must have been conscious once before" - but the issue is you don't know when that occurs. In fact, you wouldn't even be able to define consciousness for me without googling it, and when you google it, you'll see it's not a clear cut phenomenon. A fetus in early second-trimester has a higher GCS than many comatose humans in ICU right now - who will make full recoveries.>If you can't, I'm not going to reply further.I couldn't care less. You are a troglodyte. You should be deeply thankful that I'm lowering myself to discuss this with you at all.
>>84696940>what's up with these irrelevant ass hypotheticals? like what does this have to do with abortion lmaoHow would you feel if you didn't breakfast this morning, anon?>lmao the specific asspulled event in question being birth. they are not born.Yeah, I asked why you pulled this out your ass. Your answer is just to repeat the asspull - can you explain why this matters to you?>well it would be a crime against the woman who is a living personWhat type of crime would it be to make a pregnant woman miscarry, anon?>no one gives a shit about the zygote besides moralfagging fags like youWell, unfortunately, moralfagging fags like me repealed Roe vs Wade and implemented state abortion bans, because stupidfags like you can't argue for shit. Do better.>you amerimutts are banning itIndeed we are. I don't hold thirdies to the same moral standards - and how could I? You can barely string a fucking sentence together.
>>84694136Mixed feelings on abortion.It should be legal based on property rights alone imho (baby is dependent on mother's resources and that requires constant consent from her). And abortion is also a net positive for society. What kind of woman is getting abortions? Typically dumb, neurotic and impulsive females. Not only that, but who is the father? Most likely dumb, impulsive and violent. So the child would be genetically predisposed for low impulse control, violence, neuroticism, etc. But that's not all; genetics is only a part of us, think about the environment the child would grow up in - insane and uncaring mother, violent or absent father, poverty, etc.These kinds of kids would at best be a drain on resources for society. At worst they'd actually be violent and destructive. So abortion is very much an eugenic force for good.With all that being said I find the act profoundly disgusting. I can't imagine being ok with killing your own child. And I don't want to be in a relationship with a girl who'd do something like that. I guess I'd make exceptions like if the baby was a deformed vegetable or something, but if you are pregnant with a perfectly healthy child we should be raising it together - killing it should be unthinkable.
>>84696994yeah you are so amazing at arguing when you keep bringing up dumb shit that has nothing to do with the topic. have fun paying for shaniquas baby parasite.
>>84697091>It should be legal based on property rights alone imho (baby is dependent on mother's resources and that requires constant consent from her).Shouldn't all filicide be legal then?
>>84697115Abandoning your baby yes, but killing it no. It's already outside.
>>84696106>she is more entitled to her convenienceWill your parents an "inconvenience" when they get old?
>>84697112>yeah you are so amazing at arguing when you keep bringing up dumb shit that has nothing to do with the topic.Thanks. That's how a hypothetical works - it's just that people with a triple-digit IQ recognize the analogues. There's not much you can do for someone in your position.>2 + 2 = 4>"HURRR BUT THE FOUR IS DIFFERENT TO THE TWO TWOS, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FOUR, WHY YOU BRINGING UP THE FOUR!!!!">have funI will. I get to blow roasties out on here, and when all is said and done, nobody around me is allowed to live like a fucking degenerate. If they are too stupid to be reasoned with, they can have lifetime to think their position through - behind bars.
Question... what is an embryo?If it isn't a living organism that deserves protection, then it is property. Property created by two people who should have say as to what happens to that co-created property.Let me ask you this... why do 39 states recognize the unborn child or fetus as a homicide victim?
>>84694174because they're the rolls royce of things you can have for not much money
>>84694136>Have you had one?nope>are you for or against abortion?My personal opinion about abortion itself is irrelevant. Instead, I am in favor of responsible management of the fact that some women will always seek out an abortion, no matter what. Making it illegal simply forces it to be unsafe, which makes a bad situation even worse. Making it legal and safe is the best public policy, because it shows responsible management of something that's going to happen anyway. I would think this way even if I was personally opposed to abortion. I have the ability to separate my own views from what is best for the public at large.
>>84694136I am for abortion:>life is only worth living if you are a rich and/or attractive moid or if you are a foid>this world is horrible and bringing another soul to suffer here is just cruel>abortion is literally non-violent and voluntary eugenics and prevents further genetic degradation of the human race>if a woman doesn't want to have a child, it is cruel towards both the woman AND the child to force it: the woman is forced into giving painful birth and the child will not really be loved by its motherif you are against abortion you are just misguided or just straight up cruel
I'm pro abortion. It should never be limited, always provided, sometimes even forced.
>>84694136>>84695002Anti abortionists are pussies
>>84694136>are you for sacrificing your babies to pagan deities? absolutely anon!!
>>84698155Life under capitalist is literally a prolonged humiliation ritual and sacrifice of life energy for dark entities. Abortion in comparison is merciful.
