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> I love you baby, even though you've had 15 Chad cocks inside of you. That just means you have experience and know what you want. Will you marry me?

I can't wait for this moment. I want it more than anything in life
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>>84698556
Not even kidding, i'd totally marry a whore if she were just as much of a whore for me as she was for the other men she fucked. Sadly, that almost never happens. Usually when whores want to marry they just become prudes all of a sudden and avoid sex with their husbands like the plague

So yeah. Not worth it
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>>84698556
The girls who got to fuck a ton of Chads aren't the ones who settle down with a betabuxx wallet. They don't need to. They're the workaholic fake email job girl bosses too. They don't need your money because they're already worth 10x as much as you.
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>>84698730
All women fuck around, retard.
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>>84698749
All women want to fuck Chad but do we really believe he's going to bother with fat slobs? No. That's who traps betas.
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>>84698730
I never said they would betabux me. I'm a relationship now where she's exactly what you described

>>84698626
I think this correlates more with age than people realize. You just don't want to have sex as much as you get older, single or married
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one time I had an ex who was stupid enough to talk about how she had eaten some dude she had hooked up with's ass before and it pissed me the fuck off when I asked if she'd eat my ass and was like "no, I didn't like it" - I didn't even want my ass ate really, but the idea that some guy she wasn't even loyal to got sexual treatment that she refused to me made me furious, especially because I KNEW how stupid the whole situation was. somehow it made me resent her even more for seeding the thought into my brain, when previously I wasn't even really thinking about getting my ass ate. I didn't really take it out on her but eventually I did break up with her because she was pretty bad in bed and I could just tell she wasn't that attracted to me, and I was tired of thinking about her shitty guy stories. I pay very close attention to the sort of company a woman keeps now, it's a good indicator of what sort of men she's been with in the past, and I just don't deal with a woman if I don't like her taste in men anymore.
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>>84698879
You did the right thing. I'm sorry you went through that.

Women don't understand that a single moment in bed 10 years ago will cost you a husband, but it will, and should.
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>>84698749
not necessarily, most have previous boyfriends but that doesn't mean they were slutting it up
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>>84698909
thanks anon. I don't even mind a woman who has had experience, I've slept with my fair share of women too. what I DO mind is a woman who willingly exposes herself to obviously shitty men, performs for them, and then punishes her future partners for it. that isn't to say I haven't dated some shitty women in the past too, but I'd never deprive my future wife of something I gave or did for them. it's kind of ridiculous to even consider that. the harshest metric I think I judge women by now is the sort of men she gravitates towards. if she gravitates towards good men or men I can respect, and that's her track record in terms of dating, I really don't mind how much experience she's had. if I can't respect the men she's been with, and she can't either, I can't respect her.
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>>84698626
>Usually when whores want to marry they just become prudes all of a sudden
This is mgtow cope and only happens when the woman marries for money and has zero sincere interest in the man.
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>>84698969
Lmao holy cope. All women slut around.
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>>84698556
Not a virgin - unlovable whore
Glad I didn't fall for cuck indoctrination of wifing up used foid and found the unicorn instead
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>>84698879
the issue is that women do not understand the male brain, because it functions very differently from how a female brain does on these topics. women may performatively or perhaps pragmatically judge a man based on previous sexual experience, but it is rarely into the negative. they do not have the owning, claiming, possessing, desire innate to male sexuality, and they are incapable of understanding it. you shouldn't feel stupid anon, this is a nature reaction as a man. it could be a fucking golden shower, it doesn't matter. the fact that you are being deemed sexually less worthy of an act than someone else tells you all you need to know on a primal level. we are still half beast.
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>>84698982
>if she gravitates towards good men or men I can respect, and that's her track record in terms of dating, I really don't mind how much experience she's had
I wish I could get into this mindset.
My girl has been with 9 guys. They're all decent dudes. Kind and smart are her baseline. But it's still sickening to know that number. The guys are actually not Chads and they all wanted to keep her. I try to cope with this information but the number is just too high
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>>84699167
I mean think about it this way, if you had the chance to be with 9 genuinely good women, but for whatever reason things didn't work out, would you pass on the next just to keep the number low? I sure as hell wouldn't. The reality is, women just get more chances to date than men, they're more in demand. That's nobody's fault. All things like age, location, looks, status being the same, it's normal that she'd have more experience, unless you went out of your way to date someone significantly younger who would have less, which I don't think is really a basis for a healthy relationship unless it's just how things work out.

Look at your girl's character and the traits she's attracted to. If she's consistently attracted to good men who treat her well and want something real, then she sees those traits in you too and is with you because you embody them. If she's been consistently attracted to men who have treated her poorly and she has no respect for, then you would have grounds to question things. But again, put yourself in her shoes. I don't think any guy likes to imagine other guys courting or banging their girl, that's natural, but as long as she looks for the right things and knows what decent, valuable men look like, why should you hold her accountable for fate bringing them to her? If you can respect them and know they've treated her well, you can rest assured that your girl respects you, holds you in high esteem, and respects herself. In that case, be proud of yourself.

If you're worried about purely the sexual aspect of "oh my girl has slept with 9 guys" - I've had periods where I've just hooked up as much as I can and I can tell you from experience, it really doesn't mean much. I say that as someone who DOES believe sex inherently = intimacy. Fucking one person for a year is ENTIRELY different from running through like six women in that same timeframe. Having been there it's just not comparable, and not nearly as enjoyable. It's a novelty at best.
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>>84698556
Marrying in general is cuck behaviour, even if she's a virgin. Have fun getting 60%'d in divorce court. Maybe you'll be one of the men who DON'T kill themselves after divorce
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>>84699044
Totally, and even in the moment I could understand that - but part of me was like... are you fucking daft? I just can't imagine any sexual or nonsexual act I've performed for any woman I've been with in the past that I wouldn't do again in a heartbeat for a woman I truly loved, even acts I didn't really enjoy. If anything, I'd want to do more for a woman who I truly believe would be my future wife. It's one thing if you don't really know a person yet and your relationship isn't serious, I definitely don't put as much effort into the initial courtship stuff as I did when I was in my 20s, because frankly doing so is a really good way to waste a lot of time and money, but if I'm serious with a girl there's absolutely nothing I wouldn't do again or try to one up with her. Wish more women were the same. They seem to contract the more they date, as opposed to expand.
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statistically these women aren't marrying beta virgins, they're marrying men with a similar number of partners.
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>>84699508
>your girl
9 dick slobbered her body in and out beforehand
LoL
Lmao even
At least don't preach about it like it's some sort of prize to be with whore
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>>84699508
Also, I know I'm writing a lot; but to put things into perspective - experience doesn't really correlate with the quality of the relationship in my experience, but the quality of past partners does. Girls with less experience are usually WAY worse at problem solving and communicating within relationships, even when they mean well - so I actually kind of prefer some experience because it means she probably doesn't need to learn as many lessons, and won't flip out or freeze up when we hit a roadblock, because she's probably dealt with a similar thing before and is hopefully now mature enough to be more interested in working through it as opposed to just reacting.
The women who have treated me the worst in relationships always were women who had track records of dating bums and sleazebags, or even if they didn't date them, were attracted to those sorts for purely sexual gratification, even if just from afar. As a result that's one of my bigger red flags now. The women who treated me the best dated, hooked up with, or otherwise were attracted to good men who I would happily befriend. It sounds really corny, but if I wouldn't fight beside her exes, I wouldn't date her.

I used to be a pretty jealous dude, but it wasn't until I dated a woman that had consistently been with men that I could actually respect that I realized, wait - I don't really feel the same sort of visceral jealousy or anger towards these guys. I still initially felt a sort of way like you do, but I actually ended up becoming good friends with one of her exes, and it changed a lot of shit for me. It made me realize that the intense negative feelings I felt towards some of my exes' exes was more of a reaction to their capacity for discernment and self respect, and seeing that I didn't need to be with women who made me feel that jealousy through their poor taste and decision making made me realize that it doesn't have to be an either/or thing.
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>>84699872
I assume you're either a young man or just haven't had much experience yourself. You get to a certain point where you realize there are more important things to concern yourself about.
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Quite literally predditoid talking points
Neither I nor my fiancee needed to dirty ourselves with other people beforehand to understand what we want from a loving relationship and what we need to do to achieve it
>>84699951
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>>84700056
Why are you on 4chan upset about how others live their lives, commenting all sour about other mens' relationships then? Go spend time with your fiance dawg. It's a Sunday. Instead you're at the window, staring at the streets whining about how much they suck. Bet your girl LOVES that about you lmao.
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>>84700106
>Why are you here
Breaks during workout
Why are YOU, a haughty horndog, preaching cuck mentality on r9k?
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>>84699508
Thanks for the reply.
My problem is that the fact that she had the sex is disgusting.
I've had a similar amount of casual sex and I know it didn't mean much to me either. I agree that it was just novelty and the casual sex was almost never as good as the relationship sex.
What I can't get over is how disgusting it is. Simple as that. I don't care if every guy was a complete soft nerd with a small penis. That is still 9 guys who had her before me when she was younger and it feels like she is gross knowing that.
I do appreciate the effort. I've thought from that angle and for what it is worth she has good values and taste in men other than the fact that she ran through so many. But that right there is our values difference and it is a big one.

>>84699872
Yeah true

>>84699874
>actually ended up becoming good friends with one of her exes, and it changed a lot of shit for me
I seriously cannot imagine that. How do you deal with the fact that he's been inside of your girl? That seems really awful
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>>84698556
standard reddit response desu
triggers the disgust response
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>>84700267
Honestly man, I think I just don't think it's fair to hold other people to standards I don't hold myself to, especially people I love.

>>84700240
Hahahaha, haughty horndog. I'm just bored and trying to give other anons decent advice. You should know better, man. Get outta this thread.
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>>84699508
>sexual aspect of "oh my girl has slept with 9 guys
i can see where youre coming from but i just cant
i cannot jump over that mental hurdle
and no, i will not "try and unlearn" it -- that is cuck behaviour
it is a natural response and goddamit i am allowed to feel what i feel
ive never slept around because i too believe that sex = intimacy



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