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Why are guys like us so bad with women?

Personally, I have no interest in romance, fun or adventure and pretty much only see women as means to start a family and have sex with
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Can't have someone who's happily in Chad's harem.
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>>84699501
>romance, fun or adventure
I want all of those and do the latters but i am too poor and ugly to date
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>bragging about being betabux
he may as well paint a target on his back that says:

>come try and take my money, ladies
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>>84699501
I'm brown and by consequence ugly.
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>>84699762
Me too
Its over for us
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>>84699501
I have interest in romance fun and adventure but my life revolves around my goals and not those things so I am just waiting around to get snatched up but the right woman as for family I don't know I think is immoral to have kids but if she could convince me again anti natalism I would consider getting her pregnant if that is what she wanted and would want to be a good father who can provide and protect
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>>84699501
>Why are guys like us so bad with women?
Dont look like Chad
>I have no interest in romance, fun or adventure and pretty much only see women as means to start a family and have sex with
Ironically same mindset as Chad, you will be seen as an misogynist incel creeep instead of as having confidence like Chad tho.
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>>84699501
League is about sexual market value not beta provider cattle value
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>>84699501
>Why are guys like us so bad with women?
Autism
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>>84699501
> Implying it's a mystery
OP, it's all about looks, status and resources. A combination of those is the only thing that will make a woman consider you more than a background extra of her life.

Yeah, sure, you can always be a sociopath and manipulate some low quality woman into sleeping with you (probably by making her think you have good stats in the holy trinity), but you wouldn't be here if you had that kind of skill.

Reality is boring, women are simple creatures (same as men). Accept it and move on.
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>>84699501
Be chad. Chad in body, chad in mind, or both. Exception 1: Be independently wealthy for some reason. Exception 2: Be dysgenic as hell but get a mentally ill virtue signaller to date you to own the nazi chuds and stop le heckin hate.
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>>84699859
Literally all foids are low quality stone age subhumans
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>>84699501
>I have no interest in romance, fun or adventure and pretty much only see women as means to start a family and have sex with
it's this in my case. i'm also socially stunted from being raised im the middle of nowhere so expressing myself is difficult, i talk and act like a grug and women hate that
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>>84699859
>you wouldn't be here if you had that kind of skill.
Do you think there's no chance that someone who is completely misanthropic, hateful, especially towards women, but who has learned how to manipulate sluts would post here?
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>>84699892
you're just non-chad, women love grug caveman chad, they have zero issue fucking some concussion maxxed sports guy or just a born-retarded nog
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>>84699501
Im a man and not chad therefore I am worthless to women
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>>84699859
manipulation maxxing on mentally ill foids is literally the only viable strategy as a man outside of these 3 virtues. and it does work.
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>>84699892
Cope youre chopped, accept it gang
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>>84699501
lmao people just pretend bedroom stuff doesn't exist. They will see a hot bitch with a tall ogremaxxed broke guy and think "damn his personality must be great maybes theres a chance for me" meanwhile his dick is 10 inches long and she can't not choke on it multiple times daily.

Rizz and personality and all of that is a complete and utter lie to keep non genetically gifted males out there working so that Chad can enjoy his harems.
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>>84700414
Personality means Sociopathy Index, the closer to a sociopath a guys behavior is, the hotter he becomes to foids
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>>84700482
Serious question: how do they know? They clearly select for this heavily, but what actual markers are they looking for unconsciously that makes them home in on dark-triad-chad? He usually doesn't have many friends, and if he hasn't managed to CEO-maxx he probably works some shitter low-status job. However, you can be kind of chopped, broke, and just be sociopathic and women are still in. So it's a very powerful effect on its own, even in absence of using it to acquire status etc. So what, exactly the fuck, are they looking for?
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>>84700570
They are masochist so seek a guy that will beat the fuck out of them for no reason. They hate nice guys because they will never beat the life out of them. Foids are stone age mentally defective beast not people.
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>>84700597
This is not a valid analysis because they have to get romantically involved with him FIRST before they get beat. Typically, willingness to beat your gf is not a superficially obvious trait. Beating them may make them love you permanently, but it is not what I'm asking about, which is their immediate sociopath identification mechanism.
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>>84700617
Wrong, bad boys infamously plap before they date the punching bag. Ever heard ALPHA FUCKS before?
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>>84699501
I would do all but the family.
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>>84700617
>love you
Bro its animalistic lust, the roastoid is incapable of romantic love

Roastie says
>I love you
It means
>I like being fucked by you

>Love of my life
>Best sex I ever had

>My boyfriend
>My private sexual pleasure provider
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>>84700570
They detect hostility, if a guy shows hes at any moment capable of knockong their teeth out or twist their neck they get soaked, their female genes remember the enemy tribe leader who slaghtered their tribes and took them, guys like your friend could never even get angry at them.
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>>84700570
>So what, exactly the fuck, are they looking for?

1. Romantic intensity - he will take her for a ride (mentally and physically and even intellectually)

2. Anti-social / Rebellious / Disagreeable = social proof that he does not need to play by the rules = status signal = good genes

Just imagine some hot, edgy girl shows up at a bar and is interested in boring old you. She doesn't have money but she is great at conversation, says controversial stuff, acts threateningly rude to strangers, winks at you, fucks you like you cannot believe somewhere in public. Does that not sound fun? You don't care if she has a good job. She is exciting after dating 10 boring girls.
Of course, she has a personality disorder and is going to torment your life if you go through with it. These are the type of people who we mate with when there is no tribal social connection and nobody looking out for the young people. In a healthy community these guys would have no chance and their family lineage would be known evil amongst the locals. But in the modern world they are free to run around causing chaos and getting women pregnant with babies they can't afford to support
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>>84700628
Avoiding the point. She was willing to fuck him, even when she has not yet been beaten.
>>84700646
Again - they don't know how the fucking is until after they fuck. They are making a pre-fuck, pre-relationship, pre-getting beaten and cheated on, determination of sociopathic traits which compels them to get involved with all of the above.
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>>84700752
First off i've taken enough roastoid abuse that a girl like you describe would put me on ultra high alert mode and i'd ghost her rapidly. I know you are right, largely, anyway and even in my case it's obvious i've fallen for this trick. Secondly
>Anti-social / Rebellious / Disagreeable = social proof that he does not need to play by the rules = status signal
how come all the deranged antisocial pricks on this board are incel then
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>>84700924
Nta anon is kind of right with the idea but these types always go too far with it.

Women like the rebellious bad boy who doesn't play along the rules, with romantic intensity and all, him not being too simp-y (because sacrificing your own self-respect in front of her will not make her respect you).

But for true attraction to form she must feel special and wanted just as much. All female porn (erotica mostly) is based on obsessing over how much the male wants the female and how that makes her feel. She must feel truly wanted as a person and as a woman, but you shouldn't be a complete simp either, it's not as fine as a line as you'd think and pretty clear-cut in reality actualy.



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