Reverse harems are the natural order. As a man you should be competing against 4 to 5 other men for a womans love and attention. You and her 4-5 other husbands should be funding her lifestyle. At least half your paycheck should go to her, You should also spend a significant amount of time improving your looks so you can look handsome for her at all times. You should be obedient to her
>>84702783I don't have to compete with other men I'm lucky in that regard
yes perhaps if you are 10/10 hot
>>84702783women's sexuality is being chad pet, and definition of chad is someone other men submits to. so incompatible with harem
>>84702808Wrong, wrong, wrong. Women's sexuality is being in a community of Hunter gatherers where she's sleeping with 2-5 different Chads who are all invested in whatever baby pops out. That is the ultimate security.The have concealed ovulation for this exact reason. Every guy in the tribe could be the dad. But when she's ovulating she picks her favorite. So there is SOME truth to the OP, but the women is mostly communal property for her own safety There is a reason every romance novel is TWO CHADS fighting over the woman and her struggling to decide which one she loves. It's absolutely hilarious to see inside of the female mind but you should definitely read one
>>84702841bahahahaha >they should all protect memaybe in high trust, homogenous societies
>>84702841Woman aren't animals and you have autism
>>84702783Kind of had it when I was in a cult lmao
>>84702861>Woman aren't animals Humans are literally animals retard> and you have autismNo
>>84702841>Hunter gatherers where she's sleeping with 2-5 different Chadsabsolutely not, makes no evolutionary sense to have that much paternal uncertainty. imagine wasting entire life of resources to put kids on chance. mate guarding exists for a reason, guys kill each other over it. this is why marrige like socially regulated pairing has been part of human species as long as it can be tracked back (~50k years, well before people started farming shit). concealed ovulation is even more of a reason why pairing would be regulated to avoid bloodshed over optimal stragey weakening tribe as a whole. there are some tribes known where there multiple fathers but they tend to be also matriarchal which is extreme tiny portion of the studied tribes. No reason to think that was the standard in human history.https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0019066
>>84702783How many men would be OK with the opposite?Being part of a reasonably rich womans harem, having living expenses paid for, can NEET if you want to, or work, so long as you are hers exclusively and available for her to use when and how she wants?
>>84704527Almost all men would be ok with that
It makes sense, we can keep going but men can't.
>>84702783>uhhh the natural order of things is actually exactly just like my favorite gook cartoon smut for smelly antisocial morbidly obese fujos, what a coinkidink Congratulations, you're actually more pathetic than the 'incels' you love to look down upon.
>>84703053Evolutionarily speaking there is no actual reason for humans to worry about paternity at all, and it's uncertainty is not an issue. That is specifically because we are humans that it is so, as humans main evolutionary advantage before all other mammals is extreme friendliness and cooperation. Even if the kid is not yours, if raised by your people they are your friend and helper (not burden) and the resources are spent equally by everyone anyways.It is fair to say personal romance have always existed, but there are no actual evolutionary drivers for men to care about paternity. At least around Europe it is very clear from symbols left that humans were not sure sex created babies until husbandry, and it was though that women were sorta self cloning, fatherhood did not exist. As survival of our species depends on social ties and sharing, not someone specific having extraordinary genes. So paternity - simply unimportant. But love(preference) is the most basic emotion all living beings express.
>>84705464>humans main evolutionary advantage before all other mammals is extreme friendliness and cooperationDoesn't make sense. If this were the case why do are foids still get raped? Humans aren't a monolith, each individual wants to pass on their genes, and their survival has nothing to do with the survival of humans as a whole in terms of reproducing.Female fantasies may involve a harem of handsome men, but is that any different from male fantasies? But they are indeed just fantasiesAlso preference isn't an emotion, it's a choice, which is a higher level mammalian behavior. This is why no one is fucking in places like Japan or zoomers in the US, they want the fantasy of romantic "love" (a non-thing, an emotional impulse) without the reality of actual love (making the conscious effort to be with someone in spite of their imperfections), this is especially the case for foids as they expect romantic love to fall into their lap due to the societal expectation for men to approach, idk what it's like in Japan they're probably too busy working 14 hours shifts 6 days a week to even consider having sex
>>84706381>If this were the case why do are foids still get raped?Statistically margina occasion, like maybe 3% of sex in the world is rape. What doesnt make sense is to bring it up in such context.
>>84706381>their survival has nothing to do with the survival of humans as a whole in terms of reproducing.Also, their personal survival has nothing to do with evolutionary mechanisms. Evolution is about survival of the species
>>84706381>This is why no one is fucking in places like Japan or zoomers in the USIs because the higher mamalian reasoning behaviour is preventing more primitive emotions of love
>>84706481How does it not make sense? I'm asking you, why does it still occur at all if humans are "extremely friendly and cooperative"? I'm poking a hole in your logic and you're trying to ignore that hole.>>84706486evolutionary mechanisms only manifest via personal survival... There is no desire for the species to exist as a species, this can only be understood from a micro causal level, the will of the individual wishing to survive, because as soon as you look at it from top down it makes no sense, because there is no "species" acting autonomously. Evolution is about the survival of the INDIVIDUAL by passing on their genes. The species is just the side effect.I'm sure if Elon musk could kill every man and be the sole source of sperm for the rest of the world he would. This would be a successful survival strategy but evolutionarily it would be disastrous. In other words, evolution is not a 'thing', it's a sublimation of the individuals desire to persist at all cost (the synthesis), with the reality of that if they did it would ultimately be destructive to their own progenitors abilities to reproduce (the antithesis), thus we get evolution, a compromise, that allows an individual to primarily be motivated by the will to reproduce with built in safeguards to prevent one individual from dominating that process.>>84706493There is no primitive mammalian love except for that of a mother's innate desire to protect and nurture their young. This does not transfer over to romantic love or bonds formed via sexual interactions.
>>84706633>>84706481I should say, 3% is not marginal. But these are just cases of it actually happening. The heart of my question is, if we are so compassionate etc, why do men think about raping at all? There is probably more imagined rape in the world then actual sex occuring
>>84706381>>84706633another larping foid blown out of the water. cheers.
>>84706790Nice non-rebutal retard.
>>84706804No one needs an actual rebuttal for your insane gooner fetish fantasy, you worthless cocksleeve.
Imagine typing more than a paragraph to defend your "ideal" way of life
>>84706827You clearly can't even process what I'm saying. You're delusional out of ignorance. How about you go and actually read Darwin? The Voyage of the Beagle is actually very entertaining
>>84706804i don't have one, i innately knew you were wrong because you are a woman posting an opinion, and another anon managed to string the words together to make the apparent truth lucid. kill yourself whore.
>>84706915Not as entertaining as reading your spastic drivel so it seems. Flail some more for me, babe. xoxo
>>84706936>>84706940I at least tried to argue with you, you have simply resorted to name calling, a classic retard tactic, and incorrect name-calling at that. Enjoy your pea brain worldview, I hope it can bring you some peace
>>84706978>I am incredibly upset so I count that as my winHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OH NO NO NO NO
Based nonnieI wish I had hot five guys to be with me
>>84706978>be woman>lose argument>get shat on by the peanut gallery>come up with a cool way to leave to make it look like you actually wonahahahahahahah
>>84706999women always fight with their reputation instead of fists so I can imagine this loss was especially devastating for xer lol
>>84706633>I'm asking you, why does it still occur at all if humans are "extremely friendly and cooperative"?How does it make sense that you are even asking that based on marginal cases? Something that few percent of population do is not what is characteristic of the species of a whole. Men who rape unironically end up not reproducing longterm because nobody will care to make sure their spawn survives, human need more than to just splash sperm to reproduce successfully.This is also way cuck eventually wins and his genes preserve (still exist, and men are more likely to adopt than women) simply by chance because he all cuck are inherently prosocial. Men who rape are an accidental mistake in the coding. Men are ground for experiments and mistakes, so it happens but it doesnt matter. >because there is no "species" acting autonomously.Couldnt be more wrong. The strongest species on earth that will survive anything are all eusocial. Evolution selects for this communal type of existence because it is inherently overpowered. And somewhere down the line humans also discovered it, a new discovery for large mammals and immediately they became the strongest creatures on earth.>There is no primitive mammalian love except for that of a mother's innate desire to protect and nurture their young. This does not transfer over to romantic love or bonds formed via sexual interactions.Sexual love is inherently primitive and all mammals express is, it is just not a this fantastical everlasting thing but more grounded in the inherent need to adapt.
>>84706704Thought crimes are not real and dont matter. The fact that those who think about rape do not immediately proceed to act in like 90% of the cases is a very clear example of prosocial inhibition mechanism. Remaining friendly is more important to our instincts than sticking into a pussy 90% of the time.
Also by the way I dont care about reverse harems. I think few women actually care to sleep with many men at once, women generally only cheat out of loneliness and feeling of decreasing quality of connection; while men can cheat just out of curiosity. But all this seething about paternity identification on this board is full of bollocks. Technically speaking there is no better way of dealing with mating other than dual mating because it ensures both good genes and good upbringing for the child. If a society practices female dual mating they will have high quality children and will thrive. So it is just naturally selected for and is by all means just the raw logical choice.
>>84702783Based, I aspire to be one of those men, for the right girl
